Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

21 hours ago, Gräfin Zeppelin said:

Altough having Mercurio stalking the player and "accidentally" showing up in dungeons now would be rad

That would be funny.  As I think about it, the mod could just detect that the master has been dismissed and make him a follower again, with a spanking for a naughty slave.

 

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

When Lola is wearing forbidden clothes (nudity rule) even the weapons (and quiver) get unequipped. Upon entering a house that's okay, but out in the wild that's really annoying.

That's the optional "Auto-strip on nudity punishment" setting.  I don't use it, so I've never noticed that.  Both this mod and SexLab like to unequip weapons when doing a full strip.  I might be able to add a specialized strip for that.

 

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Whipping during Lights Out equips its own blindfold, but doesn't re-equip the unlocked blindfold afterwards.

Ah, right, the Lights Out blindfold doesn't lock, so it doesn't have the DD blindfold keyword.  I'll take care of that.  For now, you could turn off the "Blindfold fun" option in the MCM if that's a problem.

 

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

The third I fear is a Sexlab or Bethesda stupitity: after sex scenes, some weapon is re-equipped, even if Lola didn't have a weapon equipped on entering the scene. But as vanilla Skyrim equips the previous weapon (say a sword) when you're unequipping another (a bow) I guess there's not much to be done about that.

Yes, I often see the thing where the bow is unequipped, then the Skyrim automatically equips the last melee weapon.  Normally, that's a good thing, but not for a sex scene.  I just unequip the melee weapon with a SkyUI hot key.  I'll take a quick look to see if this mod could handle both weapons, though it would only affect sex started by this mod.

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

in the pony girl event, right after equipping the tail, Mistress gripes that I already have a plug in my ass. Uhmm, yes, a split second ago, thank you. New, faster function due to DD 5.2?

I've done that event and I don't recall seeing that.  Possibly clicking quickly through the text?  I'll watch for that next time.  The process is slower than I'd like it to be, but there's a lot of checking for previously equipped items.

 

7 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

When claiming Lola's body, "you're mine whenever I want", I can suggest going to an inn, although we already are in the Bannered Mare.

Yep, noted earlier.  It's already handled in the next update.  Inside an inn, your line changes to "Would you like to do it in a quiet room?"  That lets you choose a place other than the public common area.

[blahity]

30 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

I've done that event and I don't recall seeing that.  Possibly clicking quickly through the text?  I'll watch for that next time.  The process is slower than I'd like it to be, but there's a lot of checking for previously equipped items.

 

I can confirm that the same thing happened to me and I wasn't clicking through it. Just forgot it because it was so minor.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, blahity said:

I can confirm that the same thing happened to me and I wasn't clicking through it. Just forgot it because it was so minor.

If you let the owner talk without clicking, it works correctly.  If the owner says "Let's get you equipped" before the tail is in, the next topic will be the one for no tail.  Equipping the tail is slow, so proceeding too quickly reaches the next topic before the variable gets set.  I'm going to look at speeding up the tail part.

 

2 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

please don't take these as complaints. I know that you want to have a streamlined, bug-free mod, so I report my little findings.

I understand.  I try to fix the little things too.

 

The blindfold problem with Lights Out is now fixed.  Stripping will now unequip both a bow and a melee weapon, but stripping for sex is handled by SexLab, so this won't help in most situations.  Auto-stripping on nudity violation leaves weapons equipped now.

[archerthegrey]

the falmer lair dancing animation stops almost as soon as it starts, the event itself works correctly, just the animation doesn't

Edited June 19, 2023 by archerthegrey
Clarification

[archerthegrey]

would also add that when it's f & f mistress seems to usually be in the wrong position with most animations this on SE

[Hex Bolt]

25 minutes ago, archerthegrey said:

the falmer lair dancing stops almost as soon as it starts unknown as to what causeing it im reporting for a friend

Dancing ends immediately when combat starts.  In a Falmer lair, it's possible that a Falmer detected your friend.  Depending on threat level and music settings, combat music might not have started, so it would not have been obvious.

 

18 minutes ago, archerthegrey said:

when it's f & f mistress seems to usually be in the wrong position with most animations

I was just looking into this yesterday and making some changes.  The next update will reverse the positions for lesbian sex, which should help you, but the deeper problem that the mod cannot address is that lesbian animations are inconsistent between animation authors.  They probably were not thinking about dominant and submissive positions, and even if they were, they'd have no way to know if the PC is dominant or submissive.   Therefore, whatever this mod does, some lesbian animations will look "wrong".

 

I used the Animation Editor in SexLab's MCM to play each lesbian animation that I have installed.  For what it's worth, I decided that these four were backwards relative to the majority of lesbian animations, so for my own setup I renamed the animation files to switch the positions and reran FNIS to make these consistent with the other lesbian animations:

 

From SexLab:  Arrok Lesbian and Zyn Licking
Nibbles Cunnilingus
Leito Cunnilingus2

 

Now all my lesbian animations consistently have the PC on the bottom (or what looks like the more submissive position).  Players who have inconsistent lesbian animations will have to do something like this to make them all behave the same, or just use SexLab's hot key to switch actor positions as needed.

 

The next update will also better handle owner demands for oral sex, so in a FF situation you should not get a tribbing animation.  For a male slave and female owner, the mod will look for cunnilingus animations, filtering out any with Lesbian or FF tags.  Likewise, FF oral sex will exclude cunnilingus animations with the MF tag.

[Hex Bolt]

With regard to the Pony Express event, I found ways to streamline the process.  Equipping pony gear is now up to 20 times faster in most situations.  (If your character already has items of any kind equipped in pony gear slots, it will be slow, like before.)

 

Equipping the tail was problematic because the event had to strip the PC and equip the tail during the time that the owner spoke a single line.  Clicking to advance the conversation didn't allow enough time, and the tail wasn't recognized by the next part.  Tail equipping is now much faster (if the PC didn't have a butt plug equipped), and I moved stripping to the previous line to spread out the work.  Retesting, I was not able to click fast enough mess up that part, so it seems really solid now, and the gearing-up process takes less time.

[Hex Bolt]

One last Pony Express update.  It will no longer be limited to starting inside inns.  It can also start outdoors within the 5 walled cities.  If it starts outside, the owner will walk to the inn and wait for you to finish your job.  This should make the event much easier to trigger.

[donttouchmethere]

13 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

It will no longer be limited to starting inside inns.

Splendid news!

In all the time SLTR exists (and that scene) I only triggered it 2 times because it's somewhat hidden and out of the usual gameplay.

Taverns are a busy place for all kinds of mod events.

 

Or I confuse Pony Express with another SLTR Pony Girl related event ?

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by donttouchmethere

[Alongexp1976]

Hello, I have two errors, one is no background music when dancing, the second is to check the RZAZZ posture no effect, always kneeling on the ground holding the head. I am se version。

Edited June 20, 2023 by Alongexp1976

[shrtjsrtj]

Had the inflatable toy a couple of times now and it's pretty good, I really appreciate:

Spoiler

That the punishment is no lube for complaining, it fits the crime instead and sometimes you just want to be a brat.

 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by shrtjsrtj

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Alongexp1976 said:

I have two errors, one is no background music when dancing, the second is to check the RZAZZ posture no effect, always kneeling on the ground holding the head.

That's really not enough information to understand what's happening.  Can you provide more detail about what you did?

[rain0001]

On 6/9/2023 at 7:03 AM, HexBolt8 said:

The mod does exactly that.  You just have to preselect one or more potential followers on the MCM "Mod Integration" page as auction buyers.  One will be randomly chosen from your selections, teleported to the slave market, recruited as a follower, and a scene will play as the follower enslaves you.

 

On 6/9/2023 at 7:53 AM, CaptainJ03 said:

Hexbolt already answered that, but I want to stress that you must have chosen a valid follower. I am not sure if someone like Uthgerd the Unbroken or Ysolda would work, if you haven't done their little quest before with this PC. The list stays the same (*) from one playthrough to the next, so it might need a tweak with a new char.

 

(*) Edit: the author even cared for that: If a potential follower isn't found, the list is cleaned up and you get a notification.

 

 

That's absolutely great, but my point is to not be forced to manually select potential buyers beforehand,

and instead to already have a small default list of followers preselected in the settings.

 

The list could comprise basic, "questless" vanilla followers.

Essentially all male and female followers that are guaranteed to work and not cause issues as CapitainJ03 pointed out.

A buyer could then be randomly selected as before, but also taking into account the PC's gender preference.

 

Anyway, it's a non-issue, just an idea/suggestion to make the whole situation feel less "planed-out".

[Naps-On-Dirt]

9 minutes ago, rain0001 said:

That's absolutely great, but my point is to not be forced to manually select potential buyers beforehand,

and instead to already have a small default list of followers preselected in the settings.

The buyer list is not reset after your first playthrough.   When I start a new game I have to go through the existing list and take out the Quest-gated NPCs (Erandur, Faendal, any housecarls, etc.) and am left with a handful of possibilities.  Then as I complete the quest requirements I add more to the list.   So after your first playthrough you'll have a list for your next playthrough, though it needs to be edited between new games.

[sleepinggalaxy]

Sorry if this Question were allready answered but i could not find it in the Comments.

 

Is there a more eloborated directions how to use the extra Poses without installing the mod?

 

 

 

[Hex Bolt]

3 minutes ago, sleepinggalaxy said:

Is there a more eloborated directions how to use the extra Poses without installing the mod?

Instructions are on the mod page, under Installing Extra Animations.

[sleepinggalaxy]

i know but i am to dumb to understand them

 

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, rain0001 said:

The list could comprise basic, "questless" vanilla followers.

There are no vanilla followers that don't require that you do something first, whether it's a small quest, buying a house, or winning a brawl.

 

However, that gave me an idea.  With a few changes to the Strong Hand quest, it worked!

 

With the next update, you can submit to Uthgerd or Benor without beating your future master into the dirt and then requesting a strong hand.  If the Strong Hand quest is active, the topic "I need a strong hand to guide me" will be available without recruiting these two.  If you complete the enslavement, the NPC becomes your follower, and the brawling topic disappears.

[Hex Bolt]

34 minutes ago, sleepinggalaxy said:

i know but i am to dumb to understand them

Well, I don't think I can explain it better than I already did.  If you're new to adding mods to your game, it might be best to just install the optional mod (or mods) and don't bother trying to get only their animations.

[aspirine2]

hey, thanks for the mod

my game tells me master/mistress got their gold cut from radiant prostitution, but actually it never happens. is this a bug or something wrong with my mcm!?

[Hex Bolt]

4 minutes ago, aspirine2 said:

my game tells me master/mistress got their gold cut from radiant prostitution, but actually it never happens.

The owner receives his or her share according to the RP madame's cut setting when you finish working using the RP innkeeper dialog (not when you tell the owner that you've finished).  You have to complete both quests.

[Gudulba]

On 6/19/2023 at 2:09 PM, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

I'm honestly curious to know who you guys have chosen to be your master/mistress.

 

I've done multiple saves and i've jumped from sofia and serana.

sofia the funny follower voiced mod, and serana custom modified, with add on dialogue.

 

the problem with serana is that i can't play without the add on dialogue super famous mod which just expands serana, thing is it's an incredibly immersive and romantic mod too which to me defies the purpose of being someone's slave at the same time.

I know we got two ways of doing this we either A have a playful mistress or B have a demanding one.

I personally love a demanding mistress who will go to far lenghts to actually make me feel like a worthless little thing, no playing, just serious business, humilliation and bondage, i would love to be tortured by the mistress aswell but those options are somewhat...restrictive.

When i think of torture in skyrim my mind wanders off to the dark brotherhood torture room, how cool it would be to have your follower attach u to a wall and spank u, or burn u, or how great it would be to see an actual leash attached between ur follower and you, preventing you from moving too far away from ur mistress.

However serana is a vampire and that just adds to it, she can make use of the vampiric feeding animations.

 

Sofia on the other hand is a loudmouth who cracks up jokes, makes sexual inuendos, doesn't mind getting dirty and has one of the best configurable menus i've ever seen for a follower, plus she can follow you through dimensions which is un-heard of for most followers.

she dismisses compliments made towards her and has an air of superiority about her which just adds to the dominatrix feel i would love on a mistress.

 

besides all this i always make my mistress taller than the player, have attractive gear or clothing mods "usually stuff like from korean websites or coco armour clothing mods", i teach them powerfull spells and shouts and increase their level, stats and configure combat abilities to be more powerful than me, that to me is the true definition of a slave master.

I have used her: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/47253

 

Of course, it's not a fully voiced follower like Serana or Sofia.

[rain0001]

17 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

The buyer list is not reset after your first playthrough.   When I start a new game I have to go through the existing list and take out the Quest-gated NPCs (Erandur, Faendal, any housecarls, etc.) and am left with a handful of possibilities.  Then as I complete the quest requirements I add more to the list.   So after your first playthrough you'll have a list for your next playthrough, though it needs to be edited between new games.

 

That's definitively helpful, still, not having to interact with the list would be much better.

 

13 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

There are no vanilla followers that don't require that you do something first, whether it's a small quest, buying a house, or winning a brawl.

 

However, that gave me an idea.  With a few changes to the Strong Hand quest, it worked!

 

With the next update, you can submit to Uthgerd or Benor without beating your future master into the dirt and then requesting a strong hand.  If the Strong Hand quest is active, the topic "I need a strong hand to guide me" will be available without recruiting these two.  If you complete the enslavement, the NPC becomes your follower, and the brawling topic disappears.

 

Shouldn't Hirelings (Mercenaries) work for this purpose? They only require a small fee to be paid, couldn't that be scripted in some way?

 

Anyway, glad you had a fruitful idea, and thanks for your work and dedication, much appreciated.

Not sure I can follow you entirely though, does this mean that with the next update Simple Slavery will be able to automatically (without editing the list) sell you to Uthgerd or Benor?

 

 

 

 

 

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, rain0001 said:

Shouldn't Hirelings (Mercenaries) work for this purpose? They only require a small fee to be paid, couldn't that be scripted in some way?

Yes, they do, and Hexbolt already scripted that. As you cannot pay, you start with a debt, which results in a short contract (a week IIRC)