Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[madagg]

Fixed but now the cmc and the game doesn´t detect submissive lola XD

[Hex Bolt]

3 minutes ago, madagg said:

What mod im missing?

You have all the required mods, but for a new game you sometimes have to wait a minute, save, and wait minute for MCM to find all the mods.  It's also possible that you have a bad installation.  If so, reinstalling this mod might help.

[madagg]

Finally working

 

[kapibar]

A suggestion: could the elderly be excluded from all events? During the Pony Express my PC had to fuck Fralia Gray-Mane of all the ppl. And I - unfortunately - had to watch.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, kapibar said:

A suggestion: could the elderly be excluded from all events? During the Pony Express my PC had to fuck Fralia Gray-Mane of all the ppl. And I - unfortunately - had to watch.

Normally, they are excluded.  It sounds like you had the variation of Pony Express to get a package from a merchant.  Since you get to choose which merchants to talk to, there's no exclusion.  If you don't want sex with elderly merchants, just don't talk to them.  Whiterun has plenty of merchants to choose from.

[kapibar]

23 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Normally, they are excluded.  It sounds like you had the variation of Pony Express to get a package from a merchant.  Since you get to choose which merchants to talk to, there's no exclusion.  If you don't want sex with elderly merchants, just don't talk to them.  Whiterun has plenty of merchants to choose from.

Ah, so the event doesn't assign a specific merchant that you need to talk to. Still, I'm gonna need a therapy after that.

[Hex Bolt]

14 minutes ago, kapibar said:

Ah, so the event doesn't assign a specific merchant that you need to talk to.

Yes.  That's covered in the "Guide for Pony Express Girls" book that you receive.  The book does warn that it contains spoilers, so understandably some players will not use it.

[Furflz]

Love this mod and the fact that it doesn't have much in the way of dependencies!  

 

I'm not sure if you're taking suggestons or not or if this is the right place to do it but I was wondering about adding the following features:

1) non follower masters for instances where you're starting as a slave OR if you're being started into the mod via "Simple Slavery ++"  Bandit masters, Warlock masters, & Vampire masters specifically.  (with vampire masters maybe having special feeding tasks for the slave from basic vanilla vampire feeding animations to say other favors like "slave... acquire and eat some X... It will make your blood taste much more succulent...")   For bandit Masters you could have special favors like "steal X amount of gold for me"  or "mine X amount of iron ore" etc.   Warlock masters could have the player acquire potion ingredients or fill soul gems etc. 

2) For those of us who are fans of rape play/rape fantasies  I would love a toggle in the MCM to "allow non-consensual sex scenes/punishments".  Which would allow your master to use you and abuse you like you secretly want them to do...  Again this would be disabled by default and would only be a voluntary toggle on for those of us that really enjoy that kind of play.  (this would also enhance the interactions with Bandit/warlock/vampire masters). 

My apologies if some of these features are already in the mod and I just haven't seen or experienced them yet. 

[madagg]

Lol wrong post XD

 

[madagg]

Does anyone know why with the fnis all the characters stay in "t pose".

Edited April 5, 2023 by madagg

[Hex Bolt]

58 minutes ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

I'm not sure if you're taking suggestons...

I am.

 

1 hour ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

non follower masters for instances where you're starting as a slave...

Sanguine's Debauchery+ does most of that, if you're enslaved through combat defeat.  I found the "bring me gold" part tiresome (and sometimes impossible), but it's a different slave experience.

 

1 hour ago, Sku11M0nkey said:

For those of us who are fans of rape play/rape fantasies  I would love a toggle in the MCM to "allow non-consensual sex scenes/punishments".

You have that to some degree.  There's a setting for the chance the owner will use rough sex.  Visually, it's indistinguishable from rape, but the SexLab victim flag is not set, so the owner is not considered to be a sexual aggressor.  That flag affects mods that react to rape, so those mods won't be triggered by the owner's rough use of Lola.

 

If the owner's attitude is "playful", there's a scene where Lola must ask to be used roughly.  There's also a setting for "motivational" punishments even though Lola did nothing wrong.

[akssi]

What will be the next update plan?

[Roggvir]

I got back after a long break, so bear with me please, because i may be a bit confused

 

While recompiling the vkjmq script, i got error about missing GetHDTSpell function on SL Config.
I checked and indeed, that function is nowhere to be found - maybe because i installed a too new version of SL? (1.65)

Which version of SL should we use with SLTR 2.0.60?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Roggvir said:

While recompiling the vkjmq script, i got error about missing GetHDTSpell function on SL Config.
I checked and indeed, that function is nowhere to be found - maybe because i installed a too new version of SL? (1.65)

I see the GetHDTSpell function in sslSystemConfig for all available versions for SexLab (LE, SE, AE, and GOG).  It should compile.

 

Edit:  A new version of SLTR is coming out in a few hours, so if you're modifying your copy of vkjMQ, you might wish to wait a little while.

Edited April 10, 2023 by HexBolt8

[Roggvir]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Edit:  A new version of SLTR is coming out in a few hours, so if you're modifying your copy of vkjMQ, you might wish to wait a little while.

Thank you for telling me, i am in the middle of preparing dialogue export for voice generation, so that would be annoying to redo everything

btw. are there any dialogue changes since 2.0.60?

[Roggvir]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I see the GetHDTSpell function in sslSystemConfig for all available versions for SexLab (LE, SE, AE, and GOG).  It should compile.

OMG. Yes, NOW it is there, NOW i see it.
I probably messed up and was looking at some old version of the script, or maybe even a completely different script ?

Sorry.

[shiagwen]

Hello hex

you got two dialogues about event ideas but didnt made the event. would be nice to have. 

- one is the anal plug while sex not in use.  you only made that run to the landmark, a regular plug in butt would be a better way.

- the other is branding, eolund asks for that while making the collar tag. the affon has made it well and full functional, but  it should be part of the regular mod. especially because the other features of the addon are not that appealing and functional.

 

Another feature of your mod is to transfer all datas about the enslavement to another follower. this is not a scene, it is really just switching the datas.

if you want some scenes like declaring the master you are leaving,  but he is selling you to ss++ market instead, and a new master buys the pc, then all is from the start again. it would be good to have a possibility to merge these two, to get a new master with the datas from the old master after or before he became the new master. you understand what i mean ?   you know i have to borrow my english from old school memories.

Edited April 10, 2023 by shiagwen

[belegost]

It seems there's an issue with "I am Famous" event and some devices. I only had it happen once so far, so I'm not sure how serious it would be in the long run, however:

 

I had my character equipped with Vibrating Nipple Studs prior to enslavement. Those are fairly weak devices and all they do by themselves is raise arousal but never get past a certain threshold (40's to somewhere around low 60's from memory). After enslavement, during "I am Famous" event, the Mistress activated them when the character was talking to an NPC she was supposed to show off to. I presume to idea was to force the character to orgasm. However the device was too weak to raise arousal past 75, so PC was just standing there for a long time while I was waiting for something to happen. I had to finally go to MCM and manually raise arousal to 100 for the event to end and for me to regain control. By that time, the allotted time for the event has already passed and the quest auto-finished without any comment form the Mistress. The score changed, but since I did not remember what was the value before I am not sure if it was raised or lowered as a result.

Edited April 10, 2023 by belegost

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, Roggvir said:

are there any dialogue changes since 2.0.60?

Yes, some new lines, and I believe a few word changes in existing lines.

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, belegost said:

I had my character equipped with Vibrating Nipple Studs prior to enslavement.

Unless another mod added an item with the same name, the studs are from SLTR.  They're intended for the playmate's use, but nothing prevents the player from taking them (or getting them with the console).

 

6 hours ago, belegost said:

Those are fairly weak devices and all they do by themselves is raise arousal but never get past a certain threshold (40's to somewhere around low 60's from memory).

If these are the item from SLTR (description: "A pair of powerful vibrating nipple studs (tiny and intentionally invisible)"), they're moderately powerful by default (3 on a 5-point scale) and they don't limit arousal gain.

 

6 hours ago, belegost said:

After enslavement, during "I am Famous" event, the Mistress activated them when the character was talking to an NPC she was supposed to show off to. I presume to idea was to force the character to orgasm. However the device was too weak to raise arousal past 75, so PC was just standing there for a long time while I was waiting for something to happen.

That's really strange.  The event starts by setting PC exposure to 85 (if it was lower) to speed up the process, and it overrides the power setting of the equipped device to use maximum power.  It shouldn't take long to reach orgasm using maximum stimulation and starting at 85 exposure.  Are you using arousal settings or mods that greatly reduce arousal gain, or anything that locks arousal?  I've seen potions or spells in other mods that can do that, and there's a setting in SL Arousal to lock arousal.

 

6 hours ago, belegost said:

However the device was too weak to raise arousal past 75, so PC was just standing there for a long time while I was waiting for something to happen.

Very weird, since the event forces exposure (the main factor for arousal) to 85 at the start.  Arousal = Exposure + Time Arousal.  Time Arousal should never be negative unless something manually set it, or the time of last orgasm, or messed with the game time.  PC arousal should be at least 85 when vibration starts, probably a bit higher.

 

Since this event is only supposed to cause one orgasm, I will greatly reduce the DD parameter for maximum vibration duration.  Unfortunately, that parameter isn't in seconds, it's vibration cycles, which varies with computer performance, so the effect varies from one player's game to another.  I will include this change in today's update, but since it's a minor change it won't be listed in the change notes.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

...branding, eolund asks for that while making the collar tag. the affon [addon?] has made it well and full functional, but  it should be part of the regular mod.

This mod does not mar, deface, or cause lasting harm to Lola.  Addons might have more extreme content.  That event is a positive, happy experience.  The reference to branding is intended to worry the player a little and make you grateful that your owner doesn't want you to be branded.  Maybe I wasn't successful in achieving that goal.

 

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Another feature of your mod is to transfer all datas about the enslavement to another follower. this is not a scene, it is really just switching the datas.

If "data" means active tasks, I talked about that recently.  It's intentional.  If "data" means submission score, that is supposed to start at zero when you you're sold to a new master.  Submission score is not like gaining experience or levels that stay with you.  It's the measure of how submissive your master thinks you are.  A new master does not know you and might have different expectations for you.  You have to learn what your new master wants and prove yourself starting from zero.  If you ever return to a former master, that master remembers you, so you keep most of your old score.

[belegost]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

the studs are from SLTR

Would explain why I was unable to find them in xEdit when browsing through DD. When I was initially writing this report I wanted to check their keywords, see if they have Lively or VeryLively attached. I obtained them through AddItemMenu as I wanted something that would not interfere with the armor, without having to turn on DD Item Hider. AddItemMenu just listed nipple piercings without the esp they were originally from, so I thought these were added by new DD 5.2

 

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

If these are the item from SLTR (description: "A pair of powerful vibrating nipple studs (tiny and intentionally invisible)"), they're moderately powerful by default (3 on a 5-point scale) and they don't limit arousal gain.

Yup, those are the same. However even when they would turn on by themselves randomly, they would never raise arousal much past the values I provided. Certainly never to the point of making the character really horny, much less to the point of orgasm.

 

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

The event starts by setting PC exposure to 85 (if it was lower) to speed up the process, and it overrides the power setting of the equipped device to use maximum power.  It shouldn't take long to reach orgasm using maximum stimulation and starting at 85 exposure.  Are you using arousal settings or mods that greatly reduce arousal gain, or anything that locks arousal?  I've seen potions or spells in other mods that can do that, and there's a setting in SL Arousal to lock arousal.

Seems this may be caused by the fact I switched to OSLAroused from SLAX. Since I also use SLSO, I was getting tired of all my characters inevitably turning into sex crazed nymphos that could never get satisfied no matter what if given enough time (a by-product of how SL Aroused and SLSO interact). OSLAroused uses a different method of calculating arousal and something called "Libido" to steer the sex drive. I have no idea how this formula works under the hood.

 

However it greatly helps with managing arousal since with this method the arousal will always go towards libido value, either raising or dropping with time if necessary. Default starting libido for PC is 30, but it will raise itself slowly if the arousal stays above that level for a time. Consequently, it will also drop below if arousal stays at rock bottom levels. Currently, at around level 30 my character is at around 45-47 libido and that was fairly non-slutty playthrough, just regular sex from time to time. Had I been using SLAX she'd probably be whoring around every tavern by now just to get a temporary relief.

 

Perhaps this is the issue, the starting arousal level is just too low for the device to work properly, since I also noticed that when the Mistress does that "lets see how many times you cum" event, my character never gets an orgasm, even with additional stimulation. It just doesn't raise fast enough to reach 100 from the usual low 40-ties before the event ends by itself. I also never noticed a sudden bump to 80. It always starts from the current level. Maybe I should equip stronger devices and test it out.

Edited April 10, 2023 by belegost

[ratolas]

Just an event idea: When the PC is naked the owner may give you an anal plug, like "since you're showing your ass around i'll give you something nice" 

Also when you ask for sex the owner may sometimes make you beg for it.

[Hex Bolt]

16 minutes ago, belegost said:

Seems this may be caused by the fact I switched to OSLAroused from SLAX.

 

OSLAroused uses a different method of calculating arousal and something called "Libido" to steer the sex drive.

This is very likely the cause.  SLTR assumes that sexual stimulation will raise arousal, and that arousal can reach 100.

 

19 minutes ago, belegost said:

Maybe I should equip stronger devices and test it out.

I don't think that will help.  SLTR forced orgasm events ignore the device strength and apply maximum stimulation (power=5) to get the PC to orgasm quickly.  Vibration trolling (vibrating for a few seconds) uses power 4.  The studs are power 3, so SLTR is forcing more power out of them.  More powerful devices would only help with vibration trolling, and even then, not by much (+1 power).  I think your SL Aroused replacement's use of libido is simply applying the brakes hard on arousal stimulation.

 

24 minutes ago, belegost said:

I was getting tired of all my characters inevitably turning into sex crazed nymphos that could never get satisfied no matter what if given enough time (a by-product of how SL Aroused and SLSO interact).

For what it's worth, I use SLAX (without SLSO, because SLSO just causes too much trouble) with settings to avoid the crazed nympho phenomenon:  Exposure Rate 0.5 (default is 2) and Time Rate 10.  The Time Rate is effectively your sex addiction.  SL Aroused, unfortunately, is designed to make it hard to avoid that sex addicted nympho spiral.  I modified the script in SLAX to lock the Time Rate and block that spiral.  Without editing a script, a player can use the SL Aroused puppet master function to reset Time Rate daily, such as just before sleeping.

[Hex Bolt]

17 minutes ago, ratolas said:

When the PC is naked the owner may give you an anal plug

I haven't decided what to do with that.  I think it needs some thought to make it interesting.  At any rate, I won't be adding more device content until I update the mod to use DD 5's more efficient script functions, and I keep getting sidetracked from that.

 

19 minutes ago, ratolas said:

when you ask for sex the owner may sometimes make you beg for it.

That's a possibility, like begging for a spanking, though it's set up so that you only ever get sex if the owner wants it too (the owner isn't going to do you any favors there).  Today's update does add two new owner responses for accepting an offer of sex, for more variety on top of the existing three responses.