Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Talesien]

36 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

For what it's worth, I use SLAX (without SLSO, because SLSO just causes too much trouble) with settings to avoid the crazed nympho phenomenon:  Exposure Rate 0.5 (default is 2) and Time Rate 10.  The Time Rate is effectively your sex addiction.  SL Aroused, unfortunately, is designed to make it hard to avoid that sex addicted nympho spiral.  I modified the script in SLAX to lock the Time Rate and block that spiral.  Without editing a script, a player can use the SL Aroused puppet master function to reset Time Rate daily, such as just before sleeping.

Mind sharing that script?
I'm using OSL Aroused too, mainly due to its very low performance impact and because it does not force the player into the basically unavoidable sex addication you mentioned. Works pretty well, but it seems it was the cause for some of the odd situations I encountered last time I used SLTR. Ah well ...

[belegost]

35 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Without editing a script, a player can use the SL Aroused puppet master function to reset Time Rate daily, such as just before sleeping

Scripting might as well be black magic for me. My one and only adventure with scripting was typing HELLO WORLD off a blackboard on an Atari 800 during computer class in school, some 30+ years ago. To this day I have no idea how it even works.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.0.61

 

New: A new setting on the main MCM page, "Owner boredom score penalty".
- If the owner gets bored waiting for you to offer service, you lose this number of score points.
- The default is 1.0, adjustable in increments of tenths of a point.

New:  The Mod Integration page has a "Validate buyers" button.  If you edited the json file or removed a mod that adds a buyer NPC to the game, that could cause some buyers to not still be valid.

 

Changed:  Most of your score will carry forward if you leave enslavement and later submit again to your former owner.  Now, this happens regardless of how many owners you have had.  Previously, score only carried forward if you resubmitted without having had a different owner.  Now, the score is tracked separately for each owner.  Besides losing up to 20 points (reduced at low scores) when resubmitting to an owner, you lose 10 more points if you had a different owner after leaving this owner's service.

 

Changed:  Owners will not accumulate boredom (waiting for you to offer service) during a wider range of player activities.  Previously, the main exceptions were combat and swimming.  Now, owner boredom won't increase while Lola is having sex, vibrating, in conversation, or when player controls are locked.

 

Changed:  For the Submissive Lola outcome from Simple Slavery, this mod now validates the list of buyers before choosing one if there are 6 or fewer.  Longer lists are not automatically validated.

 

Changed:  Owners are much more likely to demand sex at maximum arousal (theirs -- your arousal is no concern).
Changed:  Reworked and expanded the text of the Submissive Lola book.
Changed:  For FFM sex with a male third party, place the man in the male position rather than the female owner.
Changed:  Because the lists of auction buyers and hair styles are saved in their own json files, to avoid any confusion, separate lists are no longer also saved in the mod settings (LolaConfig).  You probably won't notice any difference.
Fixed:  Careless Hands punishment would end a few seconds after it started (a bug introduced in 2.0.58 by another fix).
Fixed:  Using the owner's money to rent a room did not work with Delphine.
Fixed:  The custom "offerService" message (if you have iWant Widgets installed) was not being used, only the default message.

[Hex Bolt]

Updates to the Mod Page

 

Under Addons, added Sexual Vampire Feed animation pack links.

 

Under Compatibility, reworded potentially confusing line to "Requires and uses Devious Devices, though if you're wearing a ZAP device the mod will recognize it."

 

Under Compatibility, added:
- Forced orgasm events might time out without orgasm if you use a nonstandard version of SexLab Aroused, such as OSLAroused.  Either adjust your Libido during these events or wait for the events to time out.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

Mind sharing that script?

 

1 hour ago, belegost said:

Scripting might as well be black magic for me.

As it turns out, I was mistaken (I did mess with the scripts, but not for this).  Players can lock the SL Aroused time rate just with MCM settings.

 

Guide to SexLab Aroused Settings

 

For a sane arousal increase rate, on the main MCM page for SL Aroused, set Time Rate Change to 0 (default is 5).  Time Rate will never increase, so you'll never have the crazed nympho spiral of doom.  Next, go to the puppet master page and set your Time Rate to something reasonable.  I like 10.  Time Arousal is Time Rate times days since last orgasm.  Also adjust the owner's Time Rate to suit that character's personality.

 

Even at 24 hours without orgasm (you probably won't go that long with mods like this one), the time contribution toward arousal would just be 10 points.  Arousal is Exposure + Time Arousal, so almost all arousal would come from cumulative exposure.

 

You might also consider lowering your Exposure setting, but unless you're seeing a lot of nudity (yours isn't counted), your arousal should increase slowly and consistently.  In my games, it's very manageable.  Even setting the owner's clothing to "naked", my character's arousal is tolerable, though as expected she's usually hot to trot with constant exposure.

 

You can further manage your character's exposure with the SLTR MCM Roleplay setting, "Your satisfaction with sex with owner".  This amount is subtracted from the PC's exposure after sex with the owner, from -20 (owner is very selfish and slave gets very little release) to 50 (extremely satisfying).  SLTR always sets the owner's exposure after sex (with anyone) to zero, to keep the owner from demanding sex every two minutes around a naked slave.  As mentioned before, setting the owner's Time Rate in SL Arousal helps with that too.

 

I also suggest lowering Cell Scan Frequency by a factor of 4 (to 30 seconds) and the same with Default Exposure Rate (to 0.5).  This does increase script load but scanning every 30 seconds is not that frequent.  (If it's a problem, lower both settings by a factor 2 rather than 4.)  Updating arousal at the default once every two minutes just doesn't work well.  Your naked or sexy-dressed character can be in & out of several buildings before NPCs even notice.  Reducing these two settings by the same factor allows for more frequent updates, so NPCs actually notice the PC and get aroused, without changing the overall rate of exposure gain over time.

[Hex Bolt]

The last mod update notice was because I added the above SL Aroused recommendation to the mod page.

[grosaprap]

Stupid-ish question, I saw this line in the changelog:
 

"Fixed:  The custom "offerService" message (if you have iWant Widgets installed) was not being used, only the default message."

 

is this referring to the 'vanilla' iWant Widgets or was there a Lola specific addon for it that I have missed learning about?

[Hex Bolt]

1 minute ago, grosaprap said:

is this referring to the 'vanilla' iWant Widgets or was there a Lola specific addon for it that I have missed learning about?

The iWant Widgets mod on Nexus.  This mod just uses it if it finds it.

[belegost]

I actually like OSLAroused. I'm hoping more mods will support it with time.

[Hex Bolt]

16 minutes ago, belegost said:

I actually like OSLAroused. I'm hoping more mods will support it with time.

It's only for SE/AE, so it's not something that I can work with myself, but I took look at its mod page.  OSLAroused says it's "fully backwards compatible".  If so, it's a mystery that it seems to be ignoring (or drastically throttling) function calls that set a specific exposure value.  The vibration event in Devious Devices depends on reliable exposure increases during vibration -- exposure increases until orgasm occurs.  If a replacement for Aroused significantly changes how exposure works, that going to break things that use it.

 

The Libido that you had mentioned seems to roughly equate to Time Rate in SL Aroused ("It very slowly moves towards actors [sic] current arousal value").  It's not clear that Libido can be set directly, or that it's the factor that's causing trouble for you.  You might look through your settings for OSLAroused to see if you have something set very low, especially anything that would affect "exposure".

[ScroodPooch]

I was thinking that one of the tricks that (IMO) seems to be under utilized is Run Faster Lola. This event is brilliant. Seems to me, there are so many different applications to it. Any time and for any reason where the owner does not want to be dallying out in the wilderness would be cause to engage this trick. Each of the holds could be a destination. Or any land mark could be specified based on proximity for that matter. They could even be chained together for back to back destinations Ultimately leading back to a city. I would also think a couple of conditions would be applied to them as well. The "Show Ars" animation could be used at the beginning dialog as the insertion reference of the plug. It also makes sense that Lola would need to strip in order for the owner to insert the plug. And of course, once inserted, Lola has no time to re dress. Lola needs to run and run NOW! So the trip(s) would have to be done naked.

 

I just think this particular trick is too much fun to leave as infrequently used as it is. 

[Snook001]

On 4/10/2023 at 4:20 PM, HexBolt8 said:

Fixed:  The custom "offerService" message (if you have iWant Widgets installed) was not being used, only the default message.

It work perfectly, thanks so much ?

[Tildetyper]

I was testing out the mod (Skyrim LE) and started the lola quest through MDM.  I initiated the slavery, put on the collar - they give the Lola name - but every time after that they just repeat the giving you the name dialogue. 

 

I was wondering if I was missing some sort of thing that makes you kneel? He's asking you to present yourself but I haven't figured out how to do that - is there a mod you can suggest for that or did I miss something in particular?

[Hex Bolt]

36 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

He's asking you to present yourself but I haven't figured out how to do that

That simply means talking to the follower while wearing the collar.

 

36 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

I initiated the slavery, put on the collar - they give the Lola name - but every time after that they just repeat the giving you the name dialogue. 

Double check that you have this mod's prerequisites, as stated on the mod page, and that they seem to be working.  If you're using a voice pack, try it without the pack.

 

When it repeats, does it start with the line, "So you made your decision."?

 

When you reach that point, open the console and enter "sqv vkjmq".  Let me know the stage number and quest state, please.

 

It would be useful to have a papyrus log, if you could generate one, zip it up, and message it to me.

Edited April 12, 2023 by HexBolt8

[Tildetyper]

So you did it. You always do what you're told to do? good

 

Is how the dialogue starts. 

 

As for the stuff you asked me to type in. 

 

7 Alisses for quest vkjMQ

Every single one reads as NONE.  Quest state Enabled = No  State: Stopped  Current stage 0 Priority 75

 

I have the prerequesite mods, but I guess that doesn't really mean much in the end - since I'm using Vortex to manage them and usually just let it revolve where things should go until it works.

Edited April 13, 2023 by Tildetyper
Additional Information

[Tildetyper]

I found out that steam had about 20 or so mods it was running - so I deleted most of those out especailly anything that dealt with interactions with NPC's.   I started a new file (Since trying to use an old file at that point hard locked the game and required a reboot).     I treid the Lola quest on Chloe, and got a similar result. when I entered the console command.  Everything basically saying it hadn't started but the MDM said it was started. 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Tildetyper said:

Quest state Enabled = No  State: Stopped  Current stage 0 Priority 75

Okay, thanks for confirming, it's what I expected.  Thanks for checking the prerequisites and trying a new game too.  Any luck generating a papyrus log?  That will give a look at what's going on under the hood.  This situation is unusual, so I need to see what's preventing the quest from proceeding.

 

1 hour ago, Tildetyper said:

So you did it. You always do what you're told to do? good

 

Is how the dialogue starts. 

Did you have 3 response choices, and then nothing happens regardless of whether you say you like the name?

 

23 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

Everything basically saying it hadn't started but the MDM said it was started. 

It's probably just a typo, but since you've used it twice, I'll just mention that it's MCM (Mod Configuration Menu), sometimes jokingly called McMenus.

[Tildetyper]

Spoiler

[04/12/2023 - 10:01:37PM] RNPC_MentalModel log opened (PC)
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Yeah, I removed the saves and another mod and started from scratch. It's amazing how much of meal you can make for yourself while you wait for the carriage ride to conclude.   On one of my test runs I got in the way of the dragon breath and my character gave up - and the dragon put me in bondage.  

 

I did try all the different choices - the only thing that changes is that the last choice where you ask why lola goes away after the first time you select it, and then you can only complain about it, or be keen on it. 

 

The last time I tried opening the door to the cell put me in bondage with the collar already on me.  (The black collar that is used for the collaring) 

 

Mods in the list for Vortex. 

 

Spoiler

ApachiiSkyHair, ApachiiSkyHairFemale, Baka Motion Data pack,  Better Dialogue controls (Maybe I should lose that one - I think it might be old), Body slide and outfit studio, caliente beautiful bodies edition, Calypsia the Adult toys Merchant, Crash Fixes v12, Devious Devices Espansion, Devious Devices, Devious Cursed loot, Dynamic Animation Replacer, EsturkBooze,  FNIS data, FNIS PCEA2, FNIS Sexy Move, FunnyBizAnimations, Fuh Ro Doh 61, JContainers, Modern Brawl Fix, Papyrus Extender, Racemenu, rydin_animations_v0.5,  Sex lab framework, Sexlabaroused_v28b, SkyUI, SLAnimLoader, Slaverunreloaded 2.1.3 28, SOS Schlongs of Skyrim lite, SSR comments pack, SubmissiveLolaReSubmission - optional riding crop, Submissivelolaresubission 2.0.61, UIExtentions, X32 maximum skeleton extender, ZAP 9 patch CBBEHDT.

 

[Tildetyper]

I'm not sure what the log is supposed to show, but it seems like nothing is happening which is something.  I do have a save before I intiated the collaring where I can ask the game to remove the bondage to be sure I get the exact collar required - but it seemed to be the same one and nothing else showed up in my inventory. 

[Hex Bolt]

26 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

Mods in the list for Vortex. 

It looks like you typed the list, which is okay but Devious Devices Integration is not listed.  If you just forgot to type it in the list that's okay, but if you don't actually have it installed that's bad.  You list "ZAP 9 patch CBBEHDT" but no ZAP.  ZAP is required.  By the way, ZAP 9 currently (9.2) breaks whipping events.  The author has a patch, but unless you really want ZAP, I recommend using ZAP 8.  It's been around a good while and it's reliable.  Slaverunreloaded won't hurt this mod, but you're going to spend a lot of time as a slave with this mod anyway, so you might not need it (and I believe it's a "heavy" mod").  Just mentioning it.

 

15 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

I'm not sure what the log is supposed to show, but it seems like nothing is happening which is something.

Be sure that you're looking at the papyrus log, not the game log.  There's usually lots of stuff in the papyrus log.  If you can provide that, I might see an error that's blocking this mod from working.

Edited April 13, 2023 by HexBolt8

[Tildetyper]

2 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

It looks like you typed the list, which is okay but Devious Devices Integration is not listed.  If you just forgot to type it in the list that's okay, but if you don't actually have it installed that's bad.  You list "ZAP 9 patch CBBEHDT" but no ZAP.  ZAP is required.  By the way, ZAP 9 currently (9.2) breaks whipping events.  The author has a patch, but unless you really want ZAP, I recommend using ZAP 8.  It's been around a good while and it's reliable.  Slaverunreloaded won't hurt this mod, but you're going to spend a lot of time as a slave wit this mod anyway, so you might not need it (and I believe it's a "heavy" mod").  Just mentioning it; the choice is yours.

 

Be sure that you're looking at the papyrus log, not the game log.  There's usually lots of stuff in the papyrus log.  If you can provide that, I might see an error that's blocking this mod from working.

Devious Devices Intergration is present in the Plugins section.

 

The Whole Zap thing kinda confused me to be honest, I downloaded the separate 700 meg files and wasn't sure on how to put 'em together again. (Since it looked like they were parts, but had no par files or anything?)

 

I did tell it to make logs and went into the direction they said the logs would go - I guess I didn't look at the file name as that is MetalModel.   I might have my mods kinda messed up now that you've mentioned some stuff.

[Vyru]

Still the best mod i've ever seen for any game i've ever played. Huge thanks for maintaining it @HexBolt8 you are a true hero sir!

[Hex Bolt]

7 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

The Whole Zap thing kinda confused me to be honest, I downloaded the separate 700 meg files and wasn't sure on how to put 'em together again.

Try ZAP 8.  It's one 357 MB download.  Simple is good, especially if you're having some trouble getting stuff going.  If you're actually missing ZAP, that could be a game breaker.

 

9 minutes ago, Tildetyper said:

I did tell it to make logs and went into the direction they said the logs would go - I guess I didn't look at the file name as that is MetalModel. 

The most recent papyrus log file will be named Papyrus.0.log.  If you don't see it, something went wrong.  This log has a lot of output, including behind the scenes errors than can indicate which cog in the machine is failing.

 

11 minutes ago, Vyru said:

Still the best mod i've ever seen for any game i've ever played. Huge thanks for maintaining it @HexBolt8 you are a true hero sir!

Thank you!

[Tildetyper]

I haven't really done anything with Slaverun reloaded yet, It was pretty wild when everyone was making comments on you if you ended up in bondage or similar. I had SLHH installed, but it didn't seemed like a lot of mod for something that didn't seem to happen that often (I usually set the random being bondaged up to very low chances) 

 

Working as a prostitute inside of one of the inns was interesting - not being basically allowed to leave was a nice touch but gameplay wise it might not be the best thing.  I put in Zaz animation pack 8.0 which is only like 240 megs (I take it 9 is like, super ambitious or something!)   

 

I've enjoyed the writing in your mod so far, hopefully I can work it out and see the rest of it. 

[Tildetyper]

I finally got passed the point! Thank goodness~  Thanks for all the help - very much appreciated .