Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Antiope_Apollonia]

9 hours ago, assassin394 said:

So follower mod with custom AI like Daegon, Auri won't work? too bad I think Daegon would make a great mistress. As for vanilla follower I don't have anyone in mind that fit the role playing perspective. Maybe Serana but I just started a new playthrough and I don't feel like going through Dawnguard questline for the 100 times now.

SLTR supplies your Mistress with all the personality She needs.  A pretty face is all you really need from your follower.

 

An easy test of whether you can use a particular custom follower with SLTR is whether or not you can use her and a vanilla follower together without your follower framework enabled.  I know Serana and Auri both fail this test.  I've never messed with Daegon.

Edited April 22, 2023 by Antiope_Apollonia

[ScroodPooch]

One of the solutions to followers with their own system is to use a follower framework like AFT. Keep in mind that doing this caon cause your follower to lose content. Assuming you are using one of the custom voiced followers with their own follower system. Such as Arrisa (mentioned above) There most likely will be lines of dialogue that the follower won't use  due to the imposition of the follower framework (such as AFT) However, this follower framework, adds the follower to the vanilla system and will allow that floower to tie into this mod.

 

It does work for Serana too. I don't know if AFT breaks her at some point. I haven't seen that. But it will allow her to use the framework in this mod and DF as well. Again. It may break them as well, but I havn't seen it.

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, ecastellvi said:

I don't seem to have FF spanking animations or at least none with that tag. Could that be the issue?

No.  SexLab will just assign a female to a male role if that's needed.

[Yeppie5]

I love this mod, but for some reason I can't seem to get this mod properly started via Simple Slavery Plus Plus.

 

After the auction no mistress shows up, the quest (a strong hand) starts at stage 0 and I get a popup saying "seek out your benefactor and ask for a strong hand and guidance that you need". 

BuyerRef_var is None and the console tells me:

SSLV - Starting Submissive Lola

SLTR could not select a buyer

SSLV Auction Exit: Outcome was Lola

 

But I did select potential buyers via the MCM (They are all active, ie. not disabled or dead).

 

The SimpleSlaveryBuyers.json in the map Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\Lola contains the following:

{
    "form" : 
    {
        "iona" : "666771|Skyrim.esm",
        "kyrin" : "90842|LunariWarriors.esp",
        "valeria" : "103314|LunariWarriors.esp"
    },
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "buyers" : [ "Iona", "Valeria", "Kyrin" ]
    }
}
 

I'm playing Skyrim LE, all mods are the latest versions. Tried uninstalling, save cleaning and reinstalling, but nothing seems to work.

I'm at a loss, any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Hex Bolt]

6 minutes ago, Yeppie5 said:

But I did select potential buyers via the MCM

What happens if you click "Validate buyers" in the MCM?

[Yeppie5]

MCM says Done. Console says something like 'buyerlist validated'

 

No (obvious) errors.

[Antiope_Apollonia]

6 minutes ago, Yeppie5 said:

MCM says Done. Console says something like 'buyerlist validated'

 

No (obvious) errors.

Probably not this, but let's just rule it out to be sure:

Did you set up your buyer list with the regularly spawned versions of the followers, or did you use player.placeatme to spawn them and target just to build your list?  Because if you did the latter, they'll look like they worked, but then the list will break once you reload.  Validation will also be temporarily tricked by this; it'll validate them as correct while you've still got the placed versions in front of you, but once you reload, if you re-validate, it'll reject them.

Edited April 22, 2023 by Antiope_Apollonia

[Yeppie5]

30 minutes ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

Probably not this, but let's just rule it out to be sure:

Did you set up your buyer list with the regularly spawned versions of the followers, or did you use player.placeatme to spawn them and target just to build your list?  Because if you did the latter, they'll look like they worked, but then the list will break once you reload.  Validation will also be temporarily tricked by this; it'll validate them as correct while you've still got the placed versions in front of you, but once you reload, if you re-validate, it'll reject them.

Nope, just added them to the list during my travels, while they were in their natural habitat.

[ecastellvi]

5 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

No.  SexLab will just assign a female to a male role if that's needed.

Using matchmaker and sexlab tool to select it, Rydin overslap works fine. But submissive lola keeps not doing anything when slapping comes up, not even defaulting to regular animations.

[Yeppie5]

6 hours ago, Yeppie5 said:

I love this mod, but for some reason I can't seem to get this mod properly started via Simple Slavery Plus Plus.

 

After the auction no mistress shows up, the quest (a strong hand) starts at stage 0 and I get a popup saying "seek out your benefactor and ask for a strong hand and guidance that you need". 

BuyerRef_var is None and the console tells me:

SSLV - Starting Submissive Lola

SLTR could not select a buyer

SSLV Auction Exit: Outcome was Lola

 

But I did select potential buyers via the MCM (They are all active, ie. not disabled or dead).

 

The SimpleSlaveryBuyers.json in the map Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\Lola contains the following:

{
    "form" : 
    {
        "iona" : "666771|Skyrim.esm",
        "kyrin" : "90842|LunariWarriors.esp",
        "valeria" : "103314|LunariWarriors.esp"
    },
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "buyers" : [ "Iona", "Valeria", "Kyrin" ]
    }
}
 

I'm playing Skyrim LE, all mods are the latest versions. Tried uninstalling, save cleaning and reinstalling, but nothing seems to work.

I'm at a loss, any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

apparently I'm an idiot  

 

When I installed "PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58705?tab=description everything went as it should.

 

Sorry for taking up your time, and thanks for the swift responses.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, ecastellvi said:

But submissive lola keeps not doing anything when slapping [spanking] comes up, not even defaulting to regular animations.

Defaulting to generic sex animations is not working in the current version.  I have a fix ready for the next update.

 

Are you using SexLab, or a SexLab replacement?

[Hex Bolt]

12 minutes ago, Yeppie5 said:

When I installed "PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58705?tab=description everything went as it should.

Thank you for posting your solution.  I was glad to hear back from you, because I couldn't find anything wrong.  You possibly had an outdated version of JsonUtil before.

[ecastellvi]

8 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Defaulting to generic sex animations is not working in the current version.  I have a fix ready for the next update.

 

Are you using SexLab, or a SexLab replacement?

I'm using SexLab 1.65

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, ecastellvi said:

I'm using SexLab 1.65

Hmm, I don't see anything in the change log that would be a problem.  1.65 was released in November, so there should have been other reports of problems if it had changed in way that breaks the spanking event.

 

Other than restricting bed use (so you don't get the prompt for using a bed for a spanking animation), the function used for playing the spanking animation (after the mod has found one) is the same as in the original mod.  Your first post said that you've used this mod before.  Presumably, the spanking worked then.  If so, something in your current game has changed that's interfering somehow.  I tried making SexLab's settings as restrictive as possible, but I couldn't get the spanking from this mod to fail.  I'm now out of ideas for things that could cause a problem.

 

The next update has the fix to fall back to generic sex if no spanking animation can be found.  However, I suspect that it won't help you, since you have one or more spanking animations, but it will at least clarify whether SLTR is somehow not finding those animations.

[swarsmike]

I looked around but could not find the answer to my question so figured i would post it.  Is it possible to make Serana my owner after i finish her quest line?

[ecastellvi]

4 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Hmm, I don't see anything in the change log that would be a problem.  1.65 was released in November, so there should have been other reports of problems if it had changed in way that breaks the spanking event.

 

Other than restricting bed use (so you don't get the prompt for using a bed for a spanking animation), the function used for playing the spanking animation (after the mod has found one) is the same as in the original mod.  Your first post said that you've used this mod before.  Presumably, the spanking worked then.  If so, something in your current game has changed that's interfering somehow.  I tried making SexLab's settings as restrictive as possible, but I couldn't get the spanking from this mod to fail.  I'm now out of ideas for things that could cause a problem.

 

The next update has the fix to fall back to generic sex if no spanking animation can be found.  However, I suspect that it won't help you, since you have one or more spanking animations, but it will at least clarify whether SLTR is somehow not finding those animations.

Yeah, I figured it had to be something on my end, but what made me wonder is that it happens only with spanking. Anyway! Thanks for taking your time to try and help!

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, ecastellvi said:

I figured it had to be something on my end, but what made me wonder is that it happens only with spanking.

To keep the owner from stripping, this mod uses different SexLab functions to start the animations for spanking than for sex, so there is some difference.  However, since this method has been in the mod for years, and you're not using a SexLab alternative that might not be 100% compatible, it shouldn't matter.  I did test spanking after changing the stripping settings in SexLab, but that made no difference (which was expected since we are not stripping the owner for spanking).  So, unfortunately, it's really unclear why SexLab would have any trouble.

 

The next update will have the fix to use generic sex if no spanking animations are found, though that might not help if the problem is internal to SexLab rather than some glitch that causes the animations not to be found.

[dnoah]

7 hours ago, swarsmike said:

I looked around but could not find the answer to my question so figured i would post it.  Is it possible to make Serana my owner after i finish her quest line?

Just run setfactionrank 5c84e 0 on her in console and you're good to go.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I may have mentioned this before but thought I'd bring it up again because its been plaguing me recently.  Too many dialogue topics with your master give you a punishment zap and a score hit if you click through the last sentence of the conversation.  I guess it sees that as the same as tabbing out of it or something? I don't know.  But it also happens if the master beckons you right before someone else forcegreets you for something.   It seems like unnecessary punishment for things that either can't be helped or are otherwise harmless.  Its not like you can tab out of a conversation to get out of it, once the event is triggered it is going to happen no matter what.  Can we get rid of the arbitrary convo-exiting punishments? Or make them optional in the MCM?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Too many dialogue topics with your master give you a punishment zap and a score hit if you click through the last sentence of the conversation

You've mentioned this clicking through problem before, but I have never been able to get it to do this.  I don't know why it behaves differently for you.  (Being interrupted by another mod is a separate matter beyond SLTR's control, but those mods should be checking to see if you're already in conversation before interrupting you.  If they're not, that's something they should fix.)  If you're using Kalmah's extension, conceivably it's experiencing problems and causing you trouble.  The punishment is not a single feature.  It's built into each dialog, following the pattern established by the original mod.  The last time this came up, I reduced the penalty by half as a compromise.

 

Edit:  If you look through your mod list for mods that like to involve you or your follower in scenes, especially with force greetings, you might find a culprit.  If these mods do not gracefully terminate their scenes or force greetings, that can interrupt later conversations.

Edited April 24, 2023 by HexBolt8

[Antiope_Apollonia]

44 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Too many dialogue topics with your master give you a punishment zap and a score hit if you click through the last sentence of the conversation. 

I have a couple thousand hours of play with SLTR, and I have experienced this zero times.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

39 minutes ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

I have a couple thousand hours of play with SLTR, and I have experienced this zero times.

 

Weeeeeeird.  I don't use Kalmah's extension so its not that.    Sometimes the interruptions are from things like SL Adventures' proximity rape, someone is pursuing me and then the master demands I do something but the pursuer catches up and starts the SL scene, booting me out of my conversation with the master.  So thats definitely it's fault.  Same I guess with SL Survival's various things like Toll Collectors and Enforcers.    But also Vanilla events too, Guards and Couriers and whatnot.

[Antiope_Apollonia]

1 hour ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Sometimes the interruptions are from things like SL Adventures' proximity rape, someone is pursuing me and then the master demands I do something but the pursuer catches up and starts the SL scene, booting me out of my conversation with the master. 

That is not the same thing as "clicking through the dialogue". 

 

I've had problems with The Forsworn Conspiracy vanilla quest, because it has a couple of forcegreets that happen on cell change, so if Mistress forcegreets you first, you can get punished for refusing to talk to her (she'll wait patiently if someone else forcegreets you first).  What you're describing is the same thing.  There's only so much SLTR can do to avoid it.  There's nothing SLTR can check to see when someone wants to forcegreet you but hasn't gotten in range to do it yet.  I think it's probably a soluble issue on cell change—maybe Hex has solved that one, actually; I don't remember—but there are always going to be cases that can't be avoided.  You'll just have to be a more careful little slave and make sure to address people who want your attention as promptly as possible to minimise the opportunities for multiple forcegreets to queue up.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Antiope_Apollonia

[ecastellvi]

23 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

To keep the owner from stripping, this mod uses different SexLab functions to start the animations for spanking than for sex, so there is some difference.  However, since this method has been in the mod for years, and you're not using a SexLab alternative that might not be 100% compatible, it shouldn't matter.  I did test spanking after changing the stripping settings in SexLab, but that made no difference (which was expected since we are not stripping the owner for spanking).  So, unfortunately, it's really unclear why SexLab would have any trouble.

 

The next update will have the fix to use generic sex if no spanking animations are found, though that might not help if the problem is internal to SexLab rather than some glitch that causes the animations not to be found.

Just to be sure and because I suck at Load Order. Submissive Lola needs to have a higher or a lower priority than the animations?

[Hex Bolt]

10 minutes ago, ecastellvi said:

Submissive Lola needs to have a higher or a lower priority than the animations?

It doesn't matter.