Random Sex Mod for SexLab - 2016-09-17

[majordespair]

i have mine set to males no sex and females lesbian.

[SquallPT]

One of the updates i had to make a new game because there was no sex at all. Npcs running around and then nothing happened.

[Arizona_Steve]

I don't see why the setup has to be that way though.  I don't think a mmf threeway or even a mmmmmf gangbang would be considered bi unless the men were working on each other.  It would be good to have toggles to determine what kind of threeway is desirable,  independent of sexuality chosen.  Oh well,  it is what it is for now. 

 

See, that's the problem. You can have an MMF threesome, but at some stage during the act you can pretty much guarantee that one guy will be having anal with the other, or sucking his dick. Same with the ladies in an FFM threesome. So I mandate gay/lesbian/bisexual for at least one of the sexes.

 

 Adding toggles may be worthwhile. I may replace the sexual orientation drop-downs with toggles for the next release, something like the masturbator options that are there now.

[paynefactor]

 

 

I'm having an issue with random Sex. When I set a hotkey to activate the mod, it works, but then if I reload a save file, the hotkey stops working and nothing I do will start it up again.

 

Maybe someone can tell me if I need to put an OnGameLoaded() function to reinitialize the hotkey when a save is reloaded. I might put that in tonight just to make sure.

 

 

having same issue, in happens when I save right after disabling RS mod.. can re-enable in MCM, but then get only one encounter, and nothing after that, even when toggled on and off repeatedly.

 

also using Lovers Hook, Lovers Comfort, SoS, SL Romance, SL Submit, .. everything but the kitchen sink. (only SL framework stuff)

 

I'm having this problem as well. The mod works perfectly as long as the game has never been shut off/reloaded. For instance, a new game that has never been reloaded, it works fine. However, when I save said game and reload it, the hotkey stops working. I can get the hotkey to function again if I remap it to a different key. This isn't really the thing that concerns me though. After I reload my game and renable the mod, only one sex act occurs. After that, something breaks. No other acts occur, even after saving/reloading the game.

 

I tought for a moment that it could be a conflict with another sexlab mod, so I disabled all of them and tested it. To test, I set it to player only, 10 second minimum, 15 second maximum. Everything else was left alone. Unfortunately, it still doesn't work. Could someone who has it working show me their load order? perhaps its another mod I'm using.

[Ailsa]

I have given up on this for now.   Hopefully one day a version will be available that doesn't stop working after saving and re-loading 

[TheBlueBlazes]

I had the same problem with the hotkey not working and then the whole mod breaking after saving/reloading. I got it all fixed up though.

 

First I uninstalled the mod, saved, reinstalled. I then moved it right to the top of my load order. It's now the very first esp on my list under all of the esm. I have no problems with it now and it even works perfectly with the custom race (Drow) I'm using. Been using it for the last few days across multiple saves and reloads and it hasn't broken yet.

[Pinute]

I had the same problem with the hotkey not working and then the whole mod breaking after saving/reloading. I got it all fixed up though.

 

First I uninstalled the mod, saved, reinstalled. I then moved it right to the top of my load order. It's now the very first esp on my list under all of the esm. I have no problems with it now and it even works perfectly with the custom race (Drow) I'm using. Been using it for the last few days across multiple saves and reloads and it hasn't broken yet.

 

What I've done (and had no issues as well) is use Boss Userlist Manager and anchor all of the sexlab mods (excluding sexlab.esm of course) on loverscomfort.esp. That's in the 'Base L' group. I expect that if they ever change the rule from sexis to sexlab it'll stay there so I'll be golden.

[paynefactor]

I had the same problem with the hotkey not working and then the whole mod breaking after saving/reloading. I got it all fixed up though.

 

First I uninstalled the mod, saved, reinstalled. I then moved it right to the top of my load order. It's now the very first esp on my list under all of the esm. I have no problems with it now and it even works perfectly with the custom race (Drow) I'm using. Been using it for the last few days across multiple saves and reloads and it hasn't broken yet.

 

I just tried this with with positive, yet somewhat mixed results. The mod at least works now on loading, I am having some stability problems though. It could just be the short time interval I'm using to test conflicting with who knows what. Anyway this does seem to help, thanks.

 

I've also taken your advice Pinute and moved the remaining sexlab mods up in my load order. This seemed like a logical move. Although I am loading Lover's Hook before Lover's comfort, if that matters.

 

[TheBlueBlazes]

Aye, I've noticed an increase in stability issues as well. I'm pretty sure there's something else going on like a mod conflict and not because of Random Sex itself. I actually noticed it when I started playing around with SexLab and matchmaker by itself before I added in other mods. I would say that 99% of my CTDs come when transitioning between areas. Only once in a while I get one in the middle of combat. I also seem to get CTDs when I try to access any menus in MCM after a while. It's...very odd to say the least. I haven't found the cause of it yet, I still have more to play around with. If I find the culprit though, I'll definitely post it up here.

[Arizona_Steve]

[Various comments on load order above]

 

I've actually put all of my SexLab based mods immediately below the FNIS Spells .esp, after I have BOSS'd my mod list. With this set-up RandomSex and MatchMaker have both worked perfectly for me. I generally test my mods with a minimalist Skyrim set-up (using Mod Organizer) and a new game, but my regular play list, consisting of around 80 esm/esp files, has also worked without any issues.

 

[Mod stability]

 

SexLab and many of the mods that make use of it do not have any event handlers for OnUnload(), which often causes stack traces to show up in the logs. I've pointed this out to Ashal, and I'm sure he'll fix it in a future revision. RandomSex does include this code and I've done as much as is reasonably possible to verify that it does indeed drop my NPCs out of their pursuit phase gracefully.

[Arizona_Steve]

Testing a new release, will hopefully finish this weekend. List of changes.

 

(1) Force re-registration of activation hotkey at game load time - this should help with the issue where the hotkey stops working.

 

(2) Toggle options for male/female composition of sex acts by sex of attacker. I dropped the sexual orientation options, but the toggles allow for better fine-tuning.

 

(3) Replaced Ashal's SortActors() for the Male in male position flag with my own version as SortActors() was unnecessarily moving actors within the array. My version only moves actors if the victim is male and there are female actors available in the array.

 

[Ashal]

(3) Replaced Ashal's SortActors() for the Male in male position flag with my own version as SortActors() was unnecessarily moving actors within the array. My version only moves actors if the victim is male and there are female actors available in the array.

 

I haven't tested SortActors() much, I don't doubt it has problems with males.  I can include your fixed version in a future update if you want/are okay with it.

 

Or you're free to push it to the Git repositories development branch, http://git.loverslab.com/sexlab/commits/development, It exists and is unlocked for anybody to push changes to exactly for this reason. If you're new to Git and want to start pushing fixes/changes directly to SexLab, would be happy to help. The repository is lonely with just me pushing code and arrok pushing animations 

[Arizona_Steve]

 

(3) Replaced Ashal's SortActors() for the Male in male position flag with my own version as SortActors() was unnecessarily moving actors within the array. My version only moves actors if the victim is male and there are female actors available in the array.

 

I haven't tested SortActors() much, I don't doubt it has problems with males.  I can include your fixed version in a future update if you want/are okay with it.

 

Or you're free to push it to the Git repositories development branch, http://git.loverslab.com/sexlab/commits/development, It exists and is unlocked for anybody to push changes to exactly for this reason. The repository is lonely with just me pushing code and arrok pushing animations

 

 

One last post before I retire for the night...

 

I don't see this as a problem with the SortActors in SexLab. I haven't looked at the code, so I'm guessing that there might be some secondary sort criteria over and above the male/female value. All I needed to to do was ensure that my victim is female, if the "male in male position" flag was set and the current victim was male. So just needed to find a female in array element #1 or #2 and swap it with the male in element #0. I really don't care about anything else in my case.

[paynefactor]

Thanks for the input Arizona Steve, I'm looking forward to the new version. Also, After playing the game at a normal pace (longer intervals between acts), everything seems to work fine. Not a single crash so far. Moving the mod higher up in my load order seemed to rectify the issues I was having. The button even works consistently now.

 

Thanks for the assistance guys and thanks for making such an awesome mod Arizona Steve. I really wanted this thing to work. And now it does.

[wpg97541]

Great mod.

 

Found a few issues (bugs?) but found workarounds for most of them, these workarounds might help some people:

 

1. If the three-way animation is not selected as one of the "aggressive" animations in the SexLab settings it never seems to get triggered. The threeways didn't work for me until I enabled them under "aggressive", now they work.

2. I had then enabled all animations under aggressive, but then masturbating onlookers stopped happening. I discovered that if masturbation is enabled under aggressive, the characters stop masturbating. I deselected just the masturbation animations under "aggressive" and the onlookers functioned again.

3. CTD issues. If a follower is in the middle of an animation when I go into a new area such as a house or something, there is an instant (or only slightly delayed) CTD that happens either when I appear in the new area or less than 30 seconds later, because my follower goes through the doorway at the same time as I do, even if they are in the middle of an animation. If I wait for the follower to finish the animation before going into the new area, there is never a CTD. I have two followers. I have gotten into the habit of making sure that they are not in mid-animation before I go through any door that leads into a new area. I don't know if it's an issue with your mod, it could be something with SexLab itself.

[Arizona_Steve]

Great mod.

 

Found a few issues (bugs?) but found workarounds for most of them, these workarounds might help some people:

 

1. If the three-way animation is not selected as one of the "aggressive" animations in the SexLab settings it never seems to get triggered. The threeways didn't work for me until I enabled them under "aggressive", now they work.

2. I had then enabled all animations under aggressive, but then masturbating onlookers stopped happening. I discovered that if masturbation is enabled under aggressive, the characters stop masturbating. I deselected just the masturbation animations under "aggressive" and the onlookers functioned again.

3. CTD issues. If a follower is in the middle of an animation when I go into a new area such as a house or something, there is an instant (or only slightly delayed) CTD that happens either when I appear in the new area or less than 30 seconds later, because my follower goes through the doorway at the same time as I do, even if they are in the middle of an animation. If I wait for the follower to finish the animation before going into the new area, there is never a CTD. I have two followers. I have gotten into the habit of making sure that they are not in mid-animation before I go through any door that leads into a new area. I don't know if it's an issue with your mod, it could be something with SexLab itself.

 

Interesting observations, and much appreciated detective work. Not sure what to do with regard to the "Aggressive" setting, may have to remove it altogether if there is no easy fix. Since it is "on" by default when the mod is initially loaded, I wonder if this is part of the issue that some are seeing with threesomes/masturbators.

 

The CTDs are more likely to be from SexLab than from RandomSex. I have implemented onUnload() code to handle situations when victims walk through doors while being pursued, or when the player leaves an area. SexLab spits out a ton of stack traces in the log if the player leaves an area while a sex act is in progress. As I said above, I'm pretty sure Ashal is all over it.

 

[Arizona_Steve]

Further to my previous post, I added some text to the option highlight for the "Aggressive" toggle, indicating that corresponding animations need to be set up in SexLab for threesomes and masturbators. Hopefully this will avoid some confusion in the future.

[Arizona_Steve]

New version up.

[majordespair]

tred out new version and 3 somes now work for me, BUT ill be scaling back to prior version, as i can no longer stop male sex. purely a personal thing, seeing men have sex (especially with each other (ie) gay sex or 2 men 1 woman) makes me wanna throw up lol...maybe i should just get one of them mods that turns all npc female so i no longer have to look at hairy muscly sweaty nords grunting on my screen.

 

and please this is not a flame of the mod or mano a mano sex, its just no to my taste now i cant turn men off is all.

 

i still love the mod

[Arizona_Steve]

Did you go into the Sex Act option screen and turn off the configurations you didn't want to see? By default all sex act types are switched on. I have the same preferences as you do (see attached for my standard in-game settings), and I would've noticed if I had multiple guys going at it with each other!

 

[pclp2014]

Thanks for the mod, it now runs flawlessly. I have the ESP loaded directly after derSexLab.esm.

[majordespair]

Did you go into the Sex Act option screen and turn off the configurations you didn't want to see? By default all sex act types are switched on. I have the same preferences as you do (see attached for my standard in-game settings), and I would've noticed if I had multiple guys going at it with each other!

 

 

ahhh thats the issue, i dont have the sex acts option in my mcm....i will go back to it and do full re-install clean save of all sex mods, that should fix it..thx

 

 

ok did clean install clean save , set the options up as u had them (although i didnt really want male sex in it at all, just lesbian i was trying to get) but im now back to same original issue, set 3 way to 100% to see if it worked but still no go, the 3 actors run to each other, then just walk away...is there any command i can use or debug toggle to see whats happening in console?

[Arizona_Steve]

 

Did you go into the Sex Act option screen and turn off the configurations you didn't want to see? By default all sex act types are switched on. I have the same preferences as you do (see attached for my standard in-game settings), and I would've noticed if I had multiple guys going at it with each other!

 

 

ahhh thats the issue, i dont have the sex acts option in my mcm....i will go back to it and do full re-install clean save of all sex mods, that should fix it..thx

 

 

ok did clean install clean save , set the options up as u had them (although i didnt really want male sex in it at all, just lesbian i was trying to get) but im now back to same original issue, set 3 way to 100% to see if it worked but still no go, the 3 actors run to each other, then just walk away...is there any command i can use or debug toggle to see whats happening in console?

 

 

Do you have the "Use Aggressive" option on? If so you will need to go into SexLab and make sure that threesome/masturbation animations are selected under the SexLab Aggressive animation options.

[wpg97541]

The threesome animations should be selected under the Sexlab aggressive animation options in order to function. Masturbation is the opposite - it should NOT be selected under the sexlab agressive options, or it won't work.

[Xegonite]

Is it true that SexLab animation controls doesn't work with random sex?