Naked Defeat LE

[crococat]

3 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

What did you change where?  Seems like I'm bumping into this issue.

Dont remember exactly becouse i had changed it many times and both in LE and SE (adding or removing some actors and creatures for my preferences).

Go to Quests, there in Conditions would be one line with with something as: dhlpSuspendStatus=0, it may be on top of conditions section.

Press + button on left and change it Type to More+Less+Equal or just delete it as condition.

As i remember i deleted it in 2 quests, but maybe only CloakQuest would be enouph.

Dont forget to make copy of original esp before editing in chance of mistakes.

 

[Nymra]

12 minutes ago, crococat said:

Dont remember exactly becouse i had changed it many times and both in LE and SE (adding or removing some actors and creatures for my preferences).

Go to Quests, there in Conditions would be one line with with something as: dhlpSuspendStatus=0, it may be on top of conditions section.

Press + button on left and change it Type to More+Less+Equal or just delete it as condition.

As i remember i deleted it in 2 quests, but maybe only CloakQuest would be enouph.

Dont forget to make copy of original esp before editing in chance of mistakes.

 

I think I know what caused the problem. 
Will bring a fix in the next version. Maybe it solves your problem too. 

Seems some script is pumping DHLP suspend events and so they stack on top of each other. Did not even know that is possible. 

If you have Sexlab Disparity go into MCM - Debug and you can check for active DHLP suspend there (something about "mutex") 

[crococat]

6 hours ago, Nymra said:

Seems some script is pumping DHLP suspend events and so they stack on top of each other. Did not even know that is possible.

In console is: dhlp suspend, next line: dhlp resume. And it is repeating in some time interval. Dont know if it is bug or normal event from some mod.

After editing esp have no problems in game for many days playing, ND works fine all times and in all locations. Console lines still present.

Think it is strange that ND have this feature, any nown by me Defeat mods work fine, only ND disable immortality surrender on dhlp.

Dont have Disparity, maybe will try later, seems to be heavy. Will wait for your fix.

[emes]

Okay, so far I'm really impressed with how well this has actually been catching defeat scenarios; seems way more reliable than other mods I've tried in the past. I have no idea what mechanic it's using, but, thus far, it seems pretty effective. (Hooray! No actual dying and being forced to reload!)

 

One point of weirdness thus far: I was defeated by a thief ("your money or your life!"), but immediately afterward, he ran off. The assault, instead, came from a bunch of wolves I hadn't even realized were in the area. The thief who did the actual defeating wasn't included in the event at all.

 

Second: Not sure if this is unique to my situation, but a lot of times I'll be trapped in the event with no way to turn the camera horizontally (yaw). The camera remains locked to the character just as if I were in combat. A bit annoying, since I can't actually rotate around to be able to see. Anyone know if there's some way of unlocking the view when this happens? Sometimes it can remain this way for quite a while.

[Nymra]

12 minutes ago, emes said:

Okay, so far I'm really impressed with how well this has actually been catching defeat scenarios; seems way more reliable than other mods I've tried in the past. I have no idea what mechanic it's using, but, thus far, it seems pretty effective. (Hooray! No actual dying and being forced to reload!)

That is thanks to the design galahad made for this mod. His goal was exactly that. All I did was polishing the furniture game. 

 

12 minutes ago, emes said:

 

One point of weirdness thus far: I was defeated by a thief ("your money or your life!"), but immediately afterward, he ran off. The assault, instead, came from a bunch of wolves I hadn't even realized were in the area. The thief who did the actual defeating wasn't included in the event at all.

This is a problem with how the mod picks actors for the defeat scenario. Sadly it drags actors from the whole Cell and therefor especially outside you can get all kinds of attackers. 
I want to prevent this but I still dont fully understand the script that is doing this so maybe I have to wait for galahads return
 

Usually the thief should be in the first scene at least but some NPC seem to have problems getting identiefied for sex scenes (especialy some from other mods (skyrim underground for example). Dunno if related here, tho.  

12 minutes ago, emes said:

 

Second: Not sure if this is unique to my situation, but a lot of times I'll be trapped in the event with no way to turn the camera horizontally (yaw). The camera remains locked to the character just as if I were in combat. A bit annoying, since I can't actually rotate around to be able to see. Anyone know if there's some way of unlocking the view when this happens? Sometimes it can remain this way for quite a while.

This is a big issue from the start and I tracked it down to the fact that combat camera is still active after defeat, locking the camera behind the player (like in combat). 
I have a fix for that in the next version that (hopefully) works for all. When defeated (surrender or 0 HP) the PC will now sheath the weapon before going into surrender pose. 
Worked very reliable for me at least. 
 

[emes]

22 hours ago, Nymra said:

This is a problem with how the mod picks actors for the defeat scenario. Sadly it drags actors from the whole Cell and therefor especially outside you can get all kinds of attackers. 
I want to prevent this but I still dont fully understand the script that is doing this so maybe I have to wait for galahads return

Yeah, if this were Oblivion of Fallout, I would just edit the scripts to my liking, but Skyrim seems very different when it comes to scripts and I just haven't had the time to invest in learning it. Seems like it's trickier with that whole Papyrus thing...

 

I assume the script would probably need to do something like build a running list of who the player was in combat with just prior to the defeat and use that to choose the participants should defeat occur. (Or, perhaps only pull in additional actors who are members of the same faction & race?)

 

22 hours ago, Nymra said:

This is a big issue from the start and I tracked it down to the fact that combat camera is still active after defeat, locking the camera behind the player (like in combat). 

I have a fix for that in the next version that (hopefully) works for all. When defeated (surrender or 0 HP) the PC will now sheath the weapon before going into surrender pose. 
Worked very reliable for me at least. 
 

That sounds awesome! Looking forward to it.

 

Good luck with your modding. I'm excited to see how this one develops.

[ВасиакУ]

How can i add face emotion, facial expressions like on your screens?

[pnutz78]

great mod, I do have a problem though" everytime I get put into furniture- my view gets centered somewhat inside my avatar- can see the eyes from the inside. the mouse scroll wheel does not work to adjust the view to further away from the avatar.
So the only way to fix the view is switch to the sexlab free camera and try to pivot away. However, in order to do that I have to use WASD which then breaks the furniture animation and I cant get it back to start.....any suggestion on how I can fix this?

[Nymra]

7 hours ago, ВасиакУ said:

How can i add face emotion, facial expressions like on your screens?

making your own sexlab expressions in Sexlab MCM -> Expressions 

If I find the time I ll upload mine, but I have to sort them outmyself before too.

[Corsayr]

Does immortality have to be turn on for the surrender key to work?

 

Also does your version fix the females only use fisting animation tag? If so is it possible to get that unfixed? I add the fisting tag to spanking animations to make so females just do spanking animations.  

[Nymra]

5 hours ago, pnutz78 said:

great mod, I do have a problem though" everytime I get put into furniture- my view gets centered somewhat inside my avatar- can see the eyes from the inside. the mouse scroll wheel does not work to adjust the view to further away from the avatar.
So the only way to fix the view is switch to the sexlab free camera and try to pivot away. However, in order to do that I have to use WASD which then breaks the furniture animation and I cant get it back to start.....any suggestion on how I can fix this?

upon entering the furniture the free camera should be auto-enabled via Naked Defeat. 
Try moving with WASD when you got into furniture (even when u are inside the avatar) and see if it works (if you are already in freecam).
Intuition might have made you toggle free cam which then disabled freecam, lol

This is not an ideal solution I know.  Still working on different approaches.

 

The whole camera problem originates from 2 things:

 

1. beeing defeated while in combat locks camera behind the PC (fixed in next version), its a common problem and technically a sexlab problem (I think)
2. zap furnitures "trap" the camera inside their mesh............................ (will probably see its own patch for ZAP where I remove collision for all zap furnitures. worked for test furnitures already

[Nymra]

Just now, Corsayr said:

Does immortality have to be turn on for the surrender key to work?

 

yes

Just now, Corsayr said:

 

Also does your version fix the females only use fisting animation tag?

yes, I changed it from fisting to "aggressive" in my version.  

 

Just now, Corsayr said:

 

If so is it possible to get that unfixed? I add the fisting tag to spanking animations to make so females just do spanking animations.  

can you compile scripts? in that case you could just change the keyword there.
I wanted to add lesbian tag but I dont know if that breaks stuff for male PC players (dunno why anybody would do that but hell what do I know :PPPPP) 
 

[Corsayr]

21 minutes ago, Nymra said:

can you compile scripts? in that case you could just change the keyword there.

Did you change anything else from the original NDUN rape quest pex? If not I should be able to just replace yours with the original one

 

[Nymra]

38 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Did you change anything else from the original NDUN rape quest pex? If not I should be able to just replace yours with the original one

 

I think I changed way more than just the tag, but need to check which script is even responsible. but I bet I changed more... I tagged my changes in the source with "NYMRA" usually. 

[Corsayr]

18 minutes ago, Nymra said:

I think I changed way more than just the tag, but need to check which script is even responsible. but I bet I changed more... I tagged my changes in the source with "NYMRA" usually. 

That's helpful, but I don't see anything tagged with that in the NDUN_Rapequest_qf_scr.psc ?

 

NVM that isn't the right script

 

[Grey Cloud]

On 9/18/2020 at 6:08 AM, Nymra said:

donttouchmethere for naked testing and feedback 

@donttouchmethere ?

[Nymra]

13 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

@donttouchmethere ?

why sursprised?
You play Kinky Skyrim with your clothes on or what? :PPPPP

[Nymra]

19 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

That's helpful, but I don't see anything tagged with that in the NDUN_Rapequest_qf_scr.psc ?

 

NVM that isn't the right script

 

ndun_calmquest_qf_scr.psc from my naked defeat 
line 388 is the female tag 


 

[donttouchmethere]

Damn you traitor tablet camera! ? ?✊??

 

[Grey Cloud]

24 minutes ago, Nymra said:

You play Kinky Skyrim with your clothes on or what?

[Corsayr]

32 minutes ago, Nymra said:

ndun_calmquest_qf_scr.psc from my naked defeat 
line 388 is the female tag 

Ya I found that, working on it now. ?

 

Thanks for your help 

[Corsayr]

Yay I got it to work! (with help from @Blackbird Wanderer)

 

 

ndun_calmquest_qf_scr.pex

 

The reason it is useful to go back to the fisting tag for females.

 

There are only a couple of animations that actually have it, and to the best of my knowledge there are no mods that actually look for it. So by adding the fisting tag to an animation using SLATE you can set animations you only want females to do. If it's set to aggressive they will use the same animations as men use, only they will put on a strap on, which to me is just not that immersive. What does a female bandit get out of using a strap on? I could see it as sort of a novelty powerplay, but the novelty would wear off fast.

 

So I added to fisting tag to all my spanking/tormenting/humiliation style mods which I feels is something a female captor is more likely to do using their "turn" in assaulting a defeated interloper.   

 

[ВасиакУ]

Help me. In some aggressive animations from (billi, anybis ...) my character has a happy face. How to do it? can there be a corresponding mod?

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, ВасиакУ said:

Help me. In some aggressive animations from (billi, anybis ...) my character has a happy face. How to do it? can there be a corresponding mod?

do you have any mod that changes the expression depending on the NPC the PC is facing (like PC Head tracking or "Eat Sleep Drinking"?)

Other than that: you can modify Sexlab Expressions yourself in the MCM. Make sure there is no happy expression set for use in aggressive Scenes.

Neither this mod nor Anubs or Billys SLAL can change expressions during Sex. 

[joe_yawiki]

On 10/18/2020 at 5:24 PM, ВасиакУ said:

How can i add face emotion, facial expressions like on your screens?

try using mfg console