Naked Defeat LE

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, bubba999 said:

A few observations. First, I'm a lefty and use the arrow keys to move up/down/left/right. What happens is that the sex goes fine but when in bondage furniture TFC doesn't come on automatically like in Sexlab so I go to the console and turn it on. Then if I use an arrow key to move the camera.... my character jumps out of the bondage furniture and stands next to it. I don't know what the fix is here... make sure the PC can only respond to spacebar while allowing free camera to work?

 

the latest version is applying free camera automatically when you enter the furniture. So when you use Free Cam you deactivate it again
its not the ideal solution but at least for now it prevents instead "falling out". 

Also: its not my mod that causes the issue. Its Sexlab. When I dont play Sex Scenes before capture the controls are all locked. Somehow Sexlab is interferting and "reenabling" movement and also "free camera control key". From the Script only spacebar should work. I am still working on a solution here but it is rather complicated. 

 

3 hours ago, bubba999 said:

 

Second, the old Sexlab Submit mod that I still use and it mostly works has a progressive % to get free each time you try. It's based on lockpicking I think. That might be a good way to do it? Anyway, I like what you're doing here!

Sexlab Submit was the most broken mess I ever installed. Amazing that you still use it   
Aside from that: I dont like skill checks because I want the experience to be the same all the time. When my character gets out faster over time it defeats the whole purpose of the struggle game (at least for me). It is meant to be a punishment and also aim at people who like furniture bondage and beeing restrained for a little while. 

If I get better with scripting there might be a MCM toggle for skill checks but no guarantees ?

 

[Nymra]

On 9/25/2020 at 12:34 AM, crococat said:

Tested more and understand that ND defeat is autodisabled when pc is enslaved by SD+ or some. Dont remember this feature in original version. Can you disable this? Immortality is working but no defeat action if pc is enslaved (ND slave state menu no effect). My slave pc is boring to be essential with no action.

I have no idea. Usually SD+ worked without flaws. I did not change anything that should be of importance here. 
When you are in SD+ you should not be in combat anyway. This mod only works in a combat situation. I might not fully understand the problem here ?

I can only imagine the way you start SD+ could interfere here.  

How is it going when Naked Dungeons -> Simple SLavery -> SD+ master? Same problem? 

Also maybe there is interference by hotkeys maybe? see if you have a double set in SD+ 

Also: try on a new game with only Naked Dungeons and SD+ together. 

[crococat]

8 hours ago, Nymra said:

When you are in SD+ you should not be in combat anyway. This mod only works in a combat situation.

 

If pc slave is atacked, immortality may work many times but no action, pc just not die. Surrender buttom just not work. In debug mesage is something about dlhp suspend. In moment when sd master is killed, pc surrenders immediately.

l also tested SLDefeat mod and it works in all situations.

Hotkeys i have all different in all game, for ND as recomended K.

Think it is something with "slave status" button.

Will test with other slave mods.

Maybe someone will try this to understand is it only my game bug.

[Nymra]

9 hours ago, crococat said:

If pc slave is atacked, immortality may work many times but no action, pc just not die. Surrender buttom just not work. In debug mesage is something about dlhp suspend. In moment when sd master is killed, pc surrenders immediately.

sorry, I cant make much of that. What do you mean "immortality may work"? What exactly happens? The mod makes the Player essential, yeah. but other mods do that too. 

Maybe SD+ or another mod is somehow preventing the surrender to trigger due to DHLP suspend. No idea. I will not install SD+ ever again I think so I cannot fix this. 
I will just consider this mod incompatible with SD+ enslavement time. 

 

9 hours ago, crococat said:

l also tested SLDefeat mod and it works in all situations.

Hotkeys i have all different in all game, for ND as recomended K.

Think it is something with "slave status" button.

Will test with other slave mods.

Maybe someone will try this to understand is it only my game bug.

keep me updated, maybe we find a lucky solution. Sorry I cant do more atm. 

[crococat]

32 minutes ago, Nymra said:

What do you mean "immortality may work"? What exactly happens? The mod makes the Player essential, yeah. but other mods do that too. . 

Yes, pc is essential. Other mods options was disabled (had only DragonbornInDistress and ShoutLikeAVirgin ondeath options). Without ND immortality pc dies. Now tried with some other slave slave mods, but all is ok exept SD+. What is DHLP SUSPEND? One time in debug message had seen DNUN DHLP.

[Nymra]

7 minutes ago, crococat said:

Yes, pc is essential. Other mods options was disabled (had only DragonbornInDistress and ShoutLikeAVirgin ondeath options). Without ND immortality pc dies. Now tried with some other slave slave mods, but all is ok exept SD+. What is DHLP SUSPEND? One time in debug message had seen DNUN DHLP.

NDUN is activating DHLP suspend for the captivity quest. If this is not active NPC will approach the PC  for sex while in furniture, breaking the quest. 

DHLP suspend is a command that prevents sex mod from triggering at the PC. 
DLPS resume will play when the PC breaks out of the furniture.

The messages are for debugging. I left them in without thinking. sorry.  

[crococat]

59 minutes ago, Nymra said:

The messages are for debugging. I left them in without thinking. sorry.  

As i understand DHLP is doing nothing for now

 

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

DHLP suspend is a command that prevents sex mod from triggering at the PC.

or not?

When SD+ snslaved and ND debug mesages are enabled there is in left top of screen - "SL .... or ..... or DHLP ... so "some activities of ND" are terminated". And after that defeat key is not working and only immortality works without any sex. (sorry there are no mesages in console to remember them right)

 

Anyway now i got problem with FNIS and will reinstall SkyrimLE. It may take 3-7 days. Will test this feature in SE.

 

Is there anyone who tried to use ND Defeat under SD+ enslavement? Reports wanted.

[Nymra]

20 minutes ago, crococat said:

As i understand DHLP is doing nothing for now

 

or not?

When SD+ snslaved and ND debug mesages are enabled there is in left top of screen - "SL .... or ..... or DHLP ... so "some activities of ND" are terminated". And after that defeat key is not working and only immortality works without any sex. (sorry there are no mesages in console to remember them right)

 

Anyway now i got problem with FNIS and will reinstall SkyrimLE. It may take 3-7 days. Will test this feature in SE.

 

Is there anyone who tried to use ND Defeat under SD+ enslavement? Reports wanted.

of course the messages mean something. when they play the DHLP event is suspended/resumed as described. 

 

 

[crajjjj]

After the update to 0.2 the player becomes invisible in the sex scene and camera is stuck afterwards (switch to first person still works). Matchmaker still works OK. Have slso and sl survival in parallel. 

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, crajjjj said:

After the update to 0.2 the player becomes invisible in the sex scene and camera is stuck afterwards (switch to first person still works). Matchmaker still works OK. Have slso and sl survival in parallel. 

camera stuck can always happen for various reasons. In this case it can happen when u are in combat stance (weapons out). This often can be fixed by switching from combat stance to non-combat or to unequip or change the weapon. 

Invisibility happens for me sometimes in different places (in Prison Overhaul in the Compations house for example). GHmm. 

[crajjjj]

16 minutes ago, Nymra said:

camera stuck can always happen for various reasons. In this case it can happen when u are in combat stance (weapons out). This often can be fixed by switching from combat stance to non-combat or to unequip or change the weapon. 

Invisibility happens for me sometimes in different places (in Prison Overhaul in the Compations house for example). GHmm. 

Yep. Tried with prostitution and with surrender hot key - outcome is the same (in city and outside). Switching to FP moves the camera to the floor level.  

No combat stance and no weapon. No POP as well.

Using MO2. Hope that helps 

[Nymra]

21 minutes ago, crajjjj said:

Yep. Tried with prostitution and with surrender hot key

what do you mean "with prostitution? 

 

21 minutes ago, crajjjj said:

- outcome is the same (in city and outside). Switching to FP moves the camera to the floor level.  

No combat stance and no weapon. No POP as well.

Using MO2. Hope that helps 

I cannot recreate any of your issues. the mod is not messing with the camera controls anymore. It just auto swaps to "free camera" when u are moved into the furniture. 

You could post your modlist in a spoiler, but no guarantees I see anything of interest. 

But Naked Defeat is meant to be used in combat situations only with no other slavery or defeat mods running (which I consider unwise in general). 
 

[crajjjj]

On 9/27/2020 at 2:52 PM, Nymra said:

what do you mean "with prostitution? 

 

I cannot recreate any of your issues. the mod is not messing with the camera controls anymore. It just auto swaps to "free camera" when u are moved into the furniture. 

You could post your modlist in a spoiler, but no guarantees I see anything of interest. 

But Naked Defeat is meant to be used in combat situations only with no other slavery or defeat mods running (which I consider unwise in general). 
 

Invisibility solved with sexlab reset. Now I have an issue that furniture is not equipped. player stands nearby. And after the release game character cannot move...Also follower was participating in the  animations as an enemy. I'll test it more

After updating outdated devious dependencies and grooming/updating PE config and doing clean start everything works perfectly.

Thanks for support - great mod

[Player80]

This mod works insanely well with "interactive BDSM". The abuse doesn't stop after being bound to some furniture, it just keeps on going lol

 

Also I've been using it for a while now, and it's safe to say that it is Special Edition friendly. The only thing (I think) that needs to be done is converting the only hkx file (in the meshes folder) to SE, though it could probably work "as is".

 

 

Edit: would it be possible to have the furniture bondage feature also implemented for every scene where the PC is tagged as the victim, and not just the defeat scenario? 

[crococat]

Tested original ND in SE. When pc is SD+ enslaved ND defeat does not work, even hotkey pose. Immortality still work. It is wery bad.

Dont tested with all slave mods, but sure there are with same features. Can not surrender in Leon house after completing DCL quest and remain free. Sure that MariaEden will block ND.

If you can do tomething with this by your NakedDefeat, it would be perfect. As for now another defeat mod must have exept ND.

 

[Nymra]

26 minutes ago, crococat said:

Tested original ND in SE. When pc is SD+ enslaved ND defeat does not work, even hotkey pose. Immortality still work. It is wery bad.

Dont tested with all slave mods, but sure there are with same features. Can not surrender in Leon house after completing DCL quest and remain free. Sure that MariaEden will block ND.

If you can do tomething with this by your NakedDefeat, it would be perfect. As for now another defeat mod must have exept ND.

 

I will not even try, sorry. 
SD+, Maria Eden compatibility will not be supported from me. 
Same for Peril, DiD, Cursed Loot, MCG Social Interactions and Daymol. 

I only offer compatibility with Sexlab Defeat via. SM Essential Player. Thats it. 

 

There are alot of mods that should work flawlessly with this, tho. Slaverun, Submissive Lola, Devious Follower continued, Treasure Hunter Whore... at least those I played with NDUN. 

[Nymra]

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[Nymra]

nvm nothing was here

[crococat]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

I will not even try, sorry.

Solved problem in TesEdit, just changed condition with dhlp in two quests. Sorry for boring you so long. Now my ND defeat is finaly working such as SLDefeat without restrictions.

[Saphixs]

On 9/27/2020 at 2:58 PM, Player80 said:

This mod works insanely well with "interactive BDSM". The abuse doesn't stop after being bound to some furniture, it just keeps on going lol

 

Also I've been using it for a while now, and it's safe to say that it is Special Edition friendly. The only thing (I think) that needs to be done is converting the only hkx file (in the meshes folder) to SE, though it could probably work "as is".

 

 

Edit: would it be possible to have the furniture bondage feature also implemented for every scene where the PC is tagged as the victim, and not just the defeat scenario? 

Is that what causes the animations not to load in SE?

[Nymra]

On 9/27/2020 at 8:58 PM, Player80 said:

Edit: would it be possible to have the furniture bondage feature also implemented for every scene where the PC is tagged as the victim, and not just the defeat scenario? 

 

I was thinking about implementing that feature into other Defeat mods like Sexlab Adventures. I am not able to make my own mods yet. 
But believe me I want to do exactly what you describe for a very long time now

[Nymra]

35 minutes ago, Saphixs said:

Is that what causes the animations not to load in SE?

most likely. the HKX files are not compatible. 

The mod works without the HKX file tho. It just replaces the animation for the Defeat Pose (kneeling, hands behind back). I had no other way to implement it. 

[emes]

On 9/18/2020 at 1:08 AM, Nymra said:

- Chain Rape: 0-100% chance to happen. If it triggers there will be 3 consecutive rape scenes. No more no less

I'm always on the lookout for new defeat mods, so Naked Defeat looks interesting. I'm wondering, though: would it be at all possible to add the ability to edit the number of scenes? It would be awesome if players could change the amount to suit their preferences.

[Nymra]

19 minutes ago, emes said:

I'm always on the lookout for new defeat mods, so Naked Defeat looks interesting. I'm wondering, though: would it be at all possible to add the ability to edit the number of scenes? It would be awesome if players could change the amount to suit their preferences.

I want to install a slider as soon as I figure out how  

[4nk8r]

On 9/27/2020 at 5:17 PM, crococat said:

Solved problem in TesEdit, just changed condition with dhlp in two quests. Sorry for boring you so long. Now my ND defeat is finaly working such as SLDefeat without restrictions.

What did you change where?  Seems like I'm bumping into this issue.