Sanguine's Debauchery

[whatto51]

First thanks for the mod it is really fun and well done.

 

I am playing with something like 200 mods and it runs smoothly.

 

I have some questions though :

 

- The labial ring is replacing my skirt slot from UNP mashup compilation (Vicky skirt if I am not mistaken), is there a way to change the slot of any of the items?

- Is there a way to make the labial ring invisible?

- If my master gets attacked I have the chance to run away but he is keeping my items so is the only way is to come back and fight him naked to get back my stuff?

 

Thanks for answers and thanks for the mod

 

 

1. Don't know, sorry

2. Labial rings are no more necessary, if you don't like it don't use it. But remember you can choose to have it or not just when you start the mod. So if you already have it, the only way to remove is uninstall/reinstall... or try to use console command

3. Well, you can always try to go and find other items to attack the master. The risk is you could not find him/her anymore. Your choice.

[wildtangent]

Thank you very much for the work on this very interesting looking mod! Unfortunately, every time I get defeated, I receive the Enslaved quest, have my hounds bound, is stripped... then my master stand holding his arm out, like he is about to hit me or something, but never moves. I would like to try out this mod, but so far I can't progress beyond this bug!

Do you have http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18981, or http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/21887 installed? The one handed animation will break the whipping sequence.

[stobor]

 

WIAdditem03 is stopped when _SD_thugslave stops. Either in the shutdown stage 50 when the player recovers their stuff. Or in stage 20 if the player's new master is dead before the Thugs can deliver.

I'm afraid things aren't working in my game the way you planned. I'm using the latest esp with my blindness modification and have no additional/modified scripts. I will list the things that look broken to me one more time.

 

- WIAddItem03 doesn't stop even when the all three thugs are dead, you can wait forever after you killed the thugs if you want, but it won't stop.

 

- Only one of the thugs attacks the player.

 

- "Payback's a Bitch" and its stages/objectives are never displayed in quest journal.

 

I might have forgotten to list some of the things I had mentioned in my earlier posts but currently these are the most critical issues with the thugs. If these things do work without any issue for other people, I promise I will not mention them again.

 

 

They don't work for me either.  I've recognized every one of the symptoms you reported, though I haven't dug into the mechanics the way you have to figure out why.

 

 

[bjornk]

FYI. I've just managed to run SD's (latest) MCM in Skyrim 1.8.151 by running the following console command as suggested in SkyUI's troubleshooting section:

setStage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

For some reason that quest was at stage 0 by default, which is a non-existing stage BTW. After running the command SD's section appeared in MCM.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

So

Problems right off the bat, I tested a normal enslave mechanic on a Dainty Sload, so some of this may be the Skyrim navmesh itself. Not sure have you resolved the fort greymoor issue, now still looking for new forts with cages for my char. didn't get to -50 on this test though.

 

1) Master's fellows start the habit of brandishing their swords all the time or walk around in combat positions. I don't mind the position, but the brandishing every 5 seconds did gets annoying

 

2) Those other additional sextoys seems to never be removed even though the demerit drops to 0 or less. My char. got buttplugged & blindfolded but these 2 gears never been removed despite her demerit gets deducted. Yes, the master's bend down animation did occurred, but the items still being shown on her. Hardcore mode is off btw.

 

3) Blindfold, liked the idea, but full 100% just not fun because how is it possible to play the game now. I understand some people do really gets in character all the way, but if you didn't see what's happening.

 

4) When my char. being whipped, she got off the kneeling pose, back to standing just to fell down to weakened stage again & again.

 

5) Without the arrow on top of the master, it's a bit hard at first to find your master in the crowd, also a bit trickier when blindfolded. I like it more when there's an arrow on top. At least when the game acted up or a dragon landed down & everybody running all over the place, it'll be easier to track down who's the master than letting demerit skyrocketed then stuck in kneeling pose, immobile.

 

Now a little bit of my personal opinion, didn't like how it's getting harder & harder to be passive (or submissive) to get sex, it's more like being rude & mouthy, I'm bored to wait or wander around for hours to get to -50 because there's not much to do, dancing is still off if it were meant to fill this huge time gap. I know, it's fun to be mouthy then gets screwed & whipped. But it's not fun all the time & it's not what I enjoy. I liked the joining faction, but I didn't like the tone of "I'm done screwing you, now bugger off & you're in my faction now for some reason" The leading up was your char. begging to do anything for the freedom, which is still a good dialogue, but the tone is off for joining faction. I still think it's better for joining faction if when you reached -50, there's an option to go free or you beg your master to join, like that time long ago my Breton bugged & became a blood kin XD Though I'll like if there's an option to stay & keep serving even after -50, just for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[darkevilhum]

Just put this out there for anyone having the weird issue with the thugslave quest whereby the thugs come for you and Loop themselves 'We're here to teach you a lesson' And unequip their weapons etc. I managed to progress past this part by allowing the main 'Thug' (Not the two other 'Hired Thugs') to enslave my PC that's when the loop kicks in.

 

Using player.sqs _sd_thugslave I check my quest stage and force it via console to the next stage until the quest updates as "Pay back's a bitch started'. (player.setstage _sd_thugslave xx)

 

Hope this saves someone from a head-scratching session.

[Silk]

Are you taking suggestions? I'd love to see some vanilla quest related stuff added into the game.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

OK, disregard most of all the things I posted earlier, I forgot I must got a char. enslave & exit the game 1st then get in the game again with a different save in order to make the mod runs smoothly.

 

So I tried the normal enslave mechanic at Halted Stream Pass with my other Imperial. The mod runs very smoothly, though I found a flaw. Although I've set blindness to 50%, it's still a pitch black & my char won't be able to talk to her master anymore. But how come she was blindfolded? Her demerit was only -8 from -12 & she didn't get the buttplug or a gag, just skips to pitch black blindfold.

 

Also the other thing I've found (which is a good thing) I didn't see anybody talked about it or maybe I've been living in a cave & it's already a common knowledge. You can spam talk your master until passive dialogue appears, it really speed things up a lot.

[GHJKL]

Haha, I just got enslaved by a frosttroll

It didn't seem to like me though. He just went and murdered me

[testarossa]

I just signed up specifically for your mod as I heard a good review through the grapevine.  It actually significantly improves Skyrim... and I don't mean an "OMG teh sex" way, escaping is often a unique challenge.  It's "unfair" in a good way that some of the best optional things in the game are.

 

Thank you!

 

Some specific feedback:

 

- The hired thugs quest is bugged for me exactly as everyone said.  One attacked me and died ages ago (I was probably on my horse at the time), two are still alive, I can't interact with them, and they keep showing up and just standing next to me.

 

- I don't like how my "demerits" are carried from one master to the next.  It's really weird/unrealistic and it means pissing off one master with escape attempts makes it hard to join the faction of the next.

 

- I think the conversation delay between passive options isn't good.  In practice I just click talk over and over to get it, because if I wait an hour many masters will move and I suddenly get demerits because I'm away from them.

 

- It should take at most half as much sex to get demerits.  One of the more fun things is joining master's faction, and it takes too much real time to get to.  Also, it would be nice if master's conversation reflected that there's a reward for being good.

 

- The popup for saying how many demerits you have is really confusing when it compares the current level to -50.  I suggest you just start the player at 50 demerits, with 0 being the level at which you can join the faction.  Then you can just say the player demerit level is X.

 

[mxzero00]

 

I ran into a bug I'm not sure what may be contributing to it. I'm a slave to a vampire in mara's eye den. I have gotten to the point where I can choose to join them if I do join them the quest ends she gives my an item from my past but doesn't untie me and my controls are still locked. And if I don't join them they remove my bindings and don't attack.

Hardcore mode?

 

Also if I join it updates the joined faction counter to 0

 

That's because the notice is going out before the factions were altered for the player.

 

 

 

Yes hardcore mode. Thought that if I joined the faction that my master would free me, and vice versa if they didn't. I did try and free myself after joining the faction and the bindings didn't come off I just picked up the weapons and didn't drop it and I wasn't notified about wearing down the bindings.

 

I see what you're saying about the factions.

 

I did jurry rig my way out of there and I'm continuing the game, just had my first run in with sanguine his dialogue didn't show up. I do have dialogue subtitles turned on.

 

EDIT: was just digging through the changelog again disregard my last comment.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

So I used the dialogue exploit to get to -50, glad there's a choice now. it's also great your master returns your stuff if you accept. Though I don't understand about the refuse option, because as soon as my char. gets in an aggressive stance, she is automatically enslaved. Also, is she didn't choose the dialogue option if she's already -50, the game will kind of forces the dialogue to happen anyway. 1 time, my char. was being boned by her master but then kill cam kicks in with her master rolling around on the floor with aggressive dialogues while my char stood up, free from her bindings.

 

 

[WaxenFigure]

Excuse if that sounds dumb but I don't have the option to check or uncheck the artifact anymore since I started the quest aleady, if I use UNINSTALL nothing appears in the MCM menu anymore under Sanguine Debauchery so best way would be to go back when I started the mod?

 

Thanks for the answers.

 

EDIT : I went back to an ealrier save and it is working as intended now.

 

The artifact is something that should be chosen up front.  You could also try editing it in the CK to move it to a different slot if you want it to show or edit the skirt instead (skirt might be simpler to edit).

 

Also once free of the master you don't have to fight him naked, you can always go and get more armor and weapons and come back and try beating him again (he will use your best armor and weapon he took from you against you though unless you were carrying crap in the first place).

 

 

 

 

 

[jbezorg]

So I used the dialogue exploit to get to -50, glad there's a choice now. it's also great your master returns your stuff if you accept. Though I don't understand about the refuse option, because as soon as my char. gets in an aggressive stance, she is automatically enslaved.

You have an hour ( game time ) to get away from your former master. If you threaten them in any way, the deal is off.

Also, is she didn't choose the dialogue option if she's already -50, the game will kind of forces the dialogue to happen anyway. 1 time, my char. was being boned by her master but then kill cam kicks in with her master rolling around on the floor with aggressive dialogues while my char stood up, free from her bindings.

Well, it's not "kind of", it's "will".

[jbezorg]

 

 

 

 

I ran into a bug I'm not sure what may be contributing to it. I'm a slave to a vampire in mara's eye den. I have gotten to the point where I can choose to join them if I do join them the quest ends she gives my an item from my past but doesn't untie me and my controls are still locked. And if I don't join them they remove my bindings and don't attack.

Hardcore mode?

 

Also if I join it updates the joined faction counter to 0

 

That's because the notice is going out before the factions were altered for the player.

 

 

 

 

Yes hardcore mode. Thought that if I joined the faction that my master would free me, and vice versa if they didn't. I did try and free myself after joining the faction and the bindings didn't come off I just picked up the weapons and didn't drop it and I wasn't notified about wearing down the bindings.

 

I see what you're saying about the factions.

 

I did jurry rig my way out of there and I'm continuing the game, just had my first run in with sanguine his dialogue didn't show up. I do have dialogue subtitles turned on.

 

EDIT: was just digging through the changelog again disregard my last comment.

 

 

They won't attack for an hour (game).

[jbezorg]

So

Problems right off the bat, I tested a normal enslave mechanic on a Dainty Sload, so some of this may be the Skyrim navmesh itself. Not sure have you resolved the fort greymoor issue, now still looking for new forts with cages for my char. didn't get to -50 on this test though.

 

1) Master's fellows start the habit of brandishing their swords all the time or walk around in combat positions. I don't mind the position, but the brandishing every 5 seconds did gets annoying

 

2) Those other additional sextoys seems to never be removed even though the demerit drops to 0 or less. My char. got buttplugged & blindfolded but these 2 gears never been removed despite her demerit gets deducted. Yes, the master's bend down animation did occurred, but the items still being shown on her. Hardcore mode is off btw.

 

3) Blindfold, liked the idea, but full 100% just not fun because how is it possible to play the game now. I understand some people do really gets in character all the way, but if you didn't see what's happening.

 

4) When my char. being whipped, she got off the kneeling pose, back to standing just to fell down to weakened stage again & again.

 

5) Without the arrow on top of the master, it's a bit hard at first to find your master in the crowd, also a bit trickier when blindfolded. I like it more when there's an arrow on top. At least when the game acted up or a dragon landed down & everybody running all over the place, it'll be easier to track down who's the master than letting demerit skyrocketed then stuck in kneeling pose, immobile.

 

Now a little bit of my personal opinion, didn't like how it's getting harder & harder to be passive (or submissive) to get sex, it's more like being rude & mouthy, I'm bored to wait or wander around for hours to get to -50 because there's not much to do, dancing is still off if it were meant to fill this huge time gap. I know, it's fun to be mouthy then gets screwed & whipped. But it's not fun all the time & it's not what I enjoy. I liked the joining faction, but I didn't like the tone of "I'm done screwing you, now bugger off & you're in my faction now for some reason" The leading up was your char. begging to do anything for the freedom, which is still a good dialogue, but the tone is off for joining faction. I still think it's better for joining faction if when you reached -50, there's an option to go free or you beg your master to join, like that time long ago my Breton bugged & became a blood kin XD Though I'll like if there's an option to stay & keep serving even after -50, just for fun.

The dialogue for joining has not changed at all between the time your Breton bugged & became a blood kin, and this current play through. What has changed, most likely, is the NPCs and how different quests and SD interacted.

[jbezorg]

Updates

2013.04.13 Final: 2013041301

• An update will reset the thug quest. Any thugs currently active will be deleted so their AI will be reset. THIS INCLUDES THUGS THAT HAVE TAKEN YOUR STUFF. DO NOT UPDATE IF YOU HAVE ENSLAVEMENT QUESTS ACTIVE.
• Thanks goes to bjornk for finding and solving the issue with blindness & blindfolds.
• Blindfolds will not force the player to try to follow the master when caged.
• The broken timing loop for slavery has been fixed. You should be able to start tasks now as well as get deductions to your demerits for staying close to you master.
• A 3rd Boss for the thug slave has been added. This one is a bandit boss and will be used when the original owner is not available or if the original owner does not belong to a crime faction resulting in no guards to be taken to.

With Ashal planning the release of his framework this is the final update for SD. Future improvements will go into SD2.

[greee3423]

how to work cell cage??? anyone know?? 

[Bane Master]

I am getting a CTD before the load screen with this update - have double checked that the correct patch esms are enabled/disabled. Also have redownloaded in case my download was corrupt.

 

If I roll back to the previous version everything is fine - any suggestions as to what might be the problem that I have missed please? 

 

 

 

Updates
2013.04.13 Final: 2013041301

• An update will reset the thug quest. Any thugs currently active will be deleted so their AI will be reset. THIS INCLUDES THUGS THAT HAVE TAKEN YOUR STUFF. DO NOT UPDATE IF YOU HAVE ENSLAVEMENT QUESTS ACTIVE.
• Thanks goes to bjornk for finding and solving the issue with blindness & blindfolds.
• Blindfolds will not force the player to try to follow the master when caged.
• The broken timing loop for slavery has been fixed. You should be able to start tasks now as well as get deductions to your demerits for staying close to you master.
• A 3rd Boss for the thug slave has been added. This one is a bandit boss and will be used when the original owner is not available or if the original owner does not belong to a crime faction resulting in no guards to be taken to.

With Ashal planning the release of his framework this is the final update for SD. Future improvements will go into SD2.

 

[balistaus]

 

I am getting a CTD before the load screen with this update - have double checked that the correct patch esms are enabled/disabled. Also have redownloaded in case my download was corrupt.

 

If I roll back to the previous version everything is fine - any suggestions as to what might be the problem that I have missed please? 

 

 

 

Updates

2013.04.13 Final: 2013041301

• An update will reset the thug quest. Any thugs currently active will be deleted so their AI will be reset. THIS INCLUDES THUGS THAT HAVE TAKEN YOUR STUFF. DO NOT UPDATE IF YOU HAVE ENSLAVEMENT QUESTS ACTIVE.
• Thanks goes to bjornk for finding and solving the issue with blindness & blindfolds.
• Blindfolds will not force the player to try to follow the master when caged.
• The broken timing loop for slavery has been fixed. You should be able to start tasks now as well as get deductions to your demerits for staying close to you master.
• A 3rd Boss for the thug slave has been added. This one is a bandit boss and will be used when the original owner is not available or if the original owner does not belong to a crime faction resulting in no guards to be taken to.

With Ashal planning the release of his framework this is the final update for SD. Future improvements will go into SD2.

 

 

samething happened to me

 

[lordofthedread]

Uninstalled today, will wait for SD2.

 

There are great ideas beyond this mod but after having to get raped 25 times by my master to finally get to -52 on -50 to get bugged stuff again (I didn't got my main weapon back, didn't  got tasks to do and my master finally vanished ....) I got bored....

 

I think you should be able to work your way faster out of slavery.

 

I loved the dance animation and the train stuff was fun one question tho is it normal that I could skip scenes when I get raped after dancing but I couldn't when I was enslaved (using shift + end) ?

 

Thus said, the uninstaller worked perfectly and left me with a very clean save, I am grateful for that, looking forward for SD2 and will follow closely what's coming next !

[whatto51]

CTD for me too at Beth logo.

Followed uninstall/reinstall instrcutions and unchecked unecessary patches. Run FNIS after uninstall and after new install with no warnings.

The only other mods I use are XPO and RN&D, both works if I uncheck SD esp. Installed ZAZ 005 with modified esm (I was still using early march version with ZAZ 004). Installed Sexis data pack (no esm or esps).

Still using SkyUI 3.1 and NMM 4.3 (should not have txt problems)

 

Thanx

[mowglibear]

The quest after you have been enslaved and then if you are freed (somehow) then when you go to sleep in a bed you are suppose to be sent to sauguines grove just crashes to desktop which means that i am unable to sleep 

[jbezorg]

Anyone load the latest version and not get CTD?

[jbezorg]

CTD for me too at Beth logo.

Followed uninstall/reinstall instrcutions and unchecked unecessary patches. Run FNIS after uninstall and after new install with no warnings.

The only other mods I use are XPO and RN&D, both works if I uncheck SD esp. Installed ZAZ 005 with modified esm (I was still using early march version with ZAZ 004). Installed Sexis data pack (no esm or esps).

Still using SkyUI 3.1 and NMM 4.3 (should not have txt problems)

 

Thanx

 

Any SDpatch file get checked for mods you don't have during the install?