Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[ck2modfan]

Anybody using SE along with Amputator Tweaked? Mother not amputated. Tried fresh game and using MCM / F1 to force amputation. Body parts still remain.

 

If so, anything special to get it to work correctly?

[audhol]

1 hour ago, ck2modfan said:

Anybody using SE along with Amputator Tweaked? Mother not amputated. Tried fresh game and using MCM / F1 to force amputation. Body parts still remain.

I remember having issues to get it working on se, IIRC I only used mono's tweaked version and not the origional at all. Sorry don't have an SE profile anymore to check gone to the double dark side of 1.6.353 and that backport mod just screws things up.

[jc321]

2 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

Anybody using SE along with Amputator Tweaked? Mother not amputated. Tried fresh game and using MCM / F1 to force amputation. Body parts still remain.

 

Experience it too. She does have the metal caps on the ends of her limbs though, but she has the full set of limbs as well. 

[Monoman1]

20 hours ago, leakim said:

 

It happens between 21:00 ~ 21:30.

 

I also tried triggering the FG at 09:00 ~ 09:30 in the morning (12 hours later), but the result is all the same.

Thanks. 

 

Initial sex approach is controlled by pchsFatherIntimacyApproach. 

1. Starting off, it is 0

2. On initial approach it is set to 1. 

3. If you agree to sex or when later you are raped it is set to 2. 

4. Once it is set to 2 it passes the first hurdle for regular (tense) sex. 

I don't think there's any problem with this part. But if you could check along the way to verify. Do 'Help  Intimacy' in the console to display it's value. 

 

The main controlling variable for tense sex dialogue to display is; pchsFatherSex == 0

But can you also check:

pchsPcDepravity  >= 1 ; I'm going to remove this check as it seems pointless. 

pchsPcBreeder  <= 2

pchsPcGaveRough  <= 0

 

Once you get to Intimacy = 2 can you:

1. Can you advance time (wait) in one hour increments up until the point where you can wait only one more hour before failing the task. What I mean is: Wait 1 hour -> ok. Wait 1 more hour -> fail. Preferably this should be mid day to eliminate time issues. 

2. Create another save at the point above. 

2. Install this script and create a backup of the original: pchsWartimesPlayerScript.pex

3. Load the save and wait one hour. The task should not fail. 

4. Post the papyrus log and let me know what game time the save is at. 

 

I've added a bunch of traces to try to tell me where the script logic is going. 

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

18 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

Anybody using SE along with Amputator Tweaked? Mother not amputated. Tried fresh game and using MCM / F1 to force amputation. Body parts still remain.

 

If so, anything special to get it to work correctly?

 

16 hours ago, jc321 said:

 

Experience it too. She does have the metal caps on the ends of her limbs though, but she has the full set of limbs as well. 

Is it a case where loading a save:

1. Mother initially is normal (not amped)

2. A few moments later amp kicks in and does it thing. 

3. Some time later she's back to normal. 

If so: certain events reset nodes back to normal. I've probably missed some. 

 

If not then afraid I don't know. Perhaps the node names are different on the body you're using (though that would seem like a bad mistake on the body mods side. Though there could be reasons I wouldn't be aware of). 

[leakim]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Thanks. 

 

Initial sex approach is controlled by pchsFatherIntimacyApproach. 

1. Starting off, it is 0

2. On initial approach it is set to 1. 

3. If you agree to sex or when later you are raped it is set to 2. 

4. Once it is set to 2 it passes the first hurdle for regular (tense) sex. 

I don't think there's any problem with this part. But if you could check along the way to verify. Do 'Help  Intimacy' in the console to display it's value. 

 

The main controlling variable for tense sex dialogue to display is; pchsFatherSex == 0

But can you also check:

pchsPcDepravity  >= 1 ; I'm going to remove this check as it seems pointless. 

pchsPcBreeder  <= 2

pchsPcGaveRough  <= 0

 

Once you get to Intimacy = 2 can you:

1. Can you advance time (wait) in one hour increments up until the point where you can wait only one more hour before failing the task. What I mean is: Wait 1 hour -> ok. Wait 1 more hour -> fail. Preferably this should be mid day to eliminate time issues. 

2. Create another save at the point above. 

2. Install this script and create a backup of the original: pchsWartimesPlayerScript.pex

3. Load the save and wait one hour. The task should not fail. 

4. Post the papyrus log and let me know what game time the save is at. 

 

I've added a bunch of traces to try to tell me where the script logic is going. 

 

 

All of this was done at game time 13:00 ~ 13:30.

 

Before being approached for sex:

• pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is 0 before the FG.
• pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 1 when the FG is triggered.
• pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 2 after FG is completed. 
• Other state after FG: 
  • pchsFatherSex is -2
  • pchsPcDepravity is 1
  • pchsPcBreeder is 0
  • pchsPcGaveRough is 0

Advancing once (1 hour) is enough for father to get angry. Created save right before this wait.

 

I've then replaced the script. However, upon loading the save and waiting one hour, the result is the same: Father gets angry all the same.

 

I may have screwed up with logging, though. I've never really needed logging before, but are the following assumptions on my part correct: Update skyrim.ini for MO2 profile to, for example:

 

[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableProfiling=0
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000

 

Then expect log files to be placed in following location: C:\Users\{USERNAME}\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script\User

 

With this config, I only get the following files: Apropos2.#.log, ConditionalExpressionsExtended.#.log, SexLabDebug.#.log. I assume I am supposed to get something for Wartimes? I probably did something wrong, but not exactly sure what.

 

If I can get the logging working I shall try again.

[Monoman1]

1 minute ago, leakim said:

Advancing once (1 hour) is enough for father to get angry.

Is this always the case with this bug?

 

It may just be some problem with setting the initial timestamp then. 

2 minutes ago, leakim said:

Update skyrim.ini for MO2 profile to, for example:

For MO it has self contained inis in the MO 'profiles' folder. 

Those are the ones you have to change. Not the one in documents. 

[adle]

@Monoman1 suggestion for new WT.

maybe make sexlab virginity status tracked. could be a nice line, that father was your first sexual intercourse.

 

sincerely AD

[leakim]

24 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Is this always the case with this bug?

 

It may just be some problem with setting the initial timestamp then. 

For MO it has self contained inis in the MO 'profiles' folder. 

Those are the ones you have to change. Not the one in documents. 

 

 

Yes. It was always only one hour. Both when I initially had the bug, when I tested it yesterday and when I tested it just now.

 

About config files: Yeah, I am aware of that, and those are the files I've edited. To be fair I did not have anything in the log folder before, but after changing the config I had variations of those three log files I mentioned above.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, leakim said:

I assume I am supposed to get something for Wartimes? I probably did something wrong, but not exactly sure what.

Whoops. Teach me to read more carefully. 

I'm just looking for the usual papyrus log. 

 

Actually it doesn't matter for the moment because if the timestamp is wrong and you're failing immediately then the debugging is kind of useless. 

Hold off until I have a closer look. 

 

Edit:

Ok.

I believe this is all down to the timestamp not being set when father makes his approach. But I think this should have only affected cooperative daughters. 

If you had to be raped then it should be working ok because the timestamp is set there. 

 

Sort of explains why it never happened to me, because I never cooperate and if I did cooperate it was likely during a speed test where the timestamp would have been a bit more... accurate. 

 

I will set the timestamp and directly enable tension dialogue so that you don't have to wait the hour for the script update. 

Edited June 8, 2022 by Monoman1

[leakim]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Whoops. Teach me to read more carefully. 

I'm just looking for the usual papyrus log. 

 

Actually it doesn't matter for the moment because if the timestamp is wrong and you're failing immediately then the debugging is kind of useless. 

Hold off until I have a closer look. 

 

Edit:

Ok.

I believe this is all down to the timestamp not being set when father makes his approach. But I think this should have only affected cooperative daughters. 

If you had to be raped then it should be working ok because the timestamp is set there. 

 

Sort of explains why it never happened to me, because I never cooperate and if I did cooperate it was likely during a speed test where the timestamp would have been a bit more... accurate. 

 

I will set the timestamp and directly enable tension dialogue so that you don't have to wait the hour for the script update. 

 

Very nice. If you need me to test it, please let me know soonishly.

 

Otherwise I will probably be nuking this save to revamp my mod setup.

[Monoman1]

49 minutes ago, leakim said:

If you need me to test it, please let me know soonishly.

I think it should be ok ?

Thank you. 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, adle said:

@Monoman1 suggestion for new WT.

maybe make sexlab virginity status tracked. could be a nice line, that father was your first sexual intercourse.

 

sincerely AD

There is already a messagebox detailing that father took your virginity. If you resist and get raped. 

It's not much I know. 

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

There is already a messagebox detailing that father took your virginity. If you resist and get raped. 

It's not much I know. 

Actually... does WT really check PC's sexual status? Because I don't think it does. And it's not like player has any shortage of time before the first rape to participate in an intercourse.

[Monoman1]

16 minutes ago, kapibar said:

Actually... does WT really check PC's sexual status? Because I don't think it does. And it's not like player has any shortage of time before the first rape to participate in an intercourse.

It does for that message at least. Checks sexlab vag skill == 0

[kapibar]

6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

It does for that message at least. Checks sexlab vag skill == 0

Well, I stand corrected and surprised by your foresight. Bravo, sir.

[BitinMADMan]

I'm having a problem on SSE 10.3, the alternate start dialogue appears, but when selected doesn't count for the alt. start quest-- therefore I cant use the bed. When the bed works, it just does the default alt. start beginning where you're trying to leave the cell.

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, BitinMADMan said:

I'm having a problem on SSE 10.3, the alternate start dialogue appears, but when selected doesn't count for the alt. start quest-- therefore I cant use the bed. When the bed works, it just does the default alt. start beginning where you're trying to leave the cell.

Is WT below AS in your load order?

If still a problem you can just select 'left for dead' start and then use manual start in the WT menu. 

[BitinMADMan]

22 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Is WT below AS in your load order?

If still a problem you can just select 'left for dead' start and then use manual start in the WT menu. 

I have it set so Wartimes always loads after alternate start. Havent tried the manual start though, I may try that.

 

[ck2modfan]

Anyone using YPS Tweak for SSE? And using a SOS Female Pubic Hair mod as well?

 

LE uses "SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon". The YPS Tweak code checks for that esp.

 

SE has "SOS Female Pubic Hairs colored for NPCs 2.0.4" But that is a different esp and YPS Tweak doesn't recognize it so doesn't "grow" pubic hair. 

 

Anyone create a SSE conversion? Or have link? If conversion, would it work or would the FormId's have to be converted to decimal in YPS Tweak code lookup? Or would author of the YPS Tweak be willing to change code to use SOS Female Pubic Hairs colored for NPCs 2.0.4?

 

One of the many great things about Wartimes is the integration of YPS into the story line. Would like to have pubic hair work for SSE to fit into Wartimes.

 

[chaimhewast]

4 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

Anyone create a SSE conversion? Or have link?

I've been using the LE mod in SE with a 3BBB conversion I found in the comments without problems, and it looks like there's been a 3BA conversion since the last time I checked.

[ck2modfan]

1 minute ago, chaimhewast said:

I've been using the LE mod in SE with a 3BBB conversion I found in the comments without problems, and it looks like there's been a 3BA conversion since the last time I checked.

Thanks! Will check it out. 

[ck2modfan]

On 6/8/2022 at 7:10 AM, Monoman1 said:

 

Is it a case where loading a save:

1. Mother initially is normal (not amped)

2. A few moments later amp kicks in and does it thing. 

3. Some time later she's back to normal. 

If so: certain events reset nodes back to normal. I've probably missed some. 

 

If not then afraid I don't know. Perhaps the node names are different on the body you're using (though that would seem like a bad mistake on the body mods side. Though there could be reasons I wouldn't be aware of). 

Thanks. It is not about loading a save. The limbs are never removed. Even using the F1 and selecting limbs to be removed. As mentioned by another member, metal caps are there but so are the limbs. Using CBBE 3BBB SMP body. 

 

Curious if other folks that are using SE have amputation working. If so, what body mod?

[safado]

32 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

Thanks. It is not about loading a save. The limbs are never removed. Even using the F1 and selecting limbs to be removed. As mentioned by another member, metal caps are there but so are the limbs. Using CBBE 3BBB SMP body. 

 

Curious if other folks that are using SE have amputation working. If so, what body mod?

 

Using 3BAv2, no problems with Mother amputations.

 

 

 

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, tamai said:

there are times where father wants, food, water, sex all at the same time and im rushing back to do that.... then when i get there he will tell me oh you need polish for your nails... but if i go get my nails done by the time i get back he will be mad at me for not feeding him; howver if i talk to him he'll be mad i dont have my nails done ><

This is a situation ive ran into on multiple occassions usually right after i get mom back. Is there a way he doesn't get mad at you unless you leave and come back and then dont have them on?

I'm sorry. Would you like if father arranged his schedule around you? ?

I'm being facetious ofc.

you should keep a stock of makeup in the house for just this kind of thing. 

failing is natural. Father wants you to fail occasionally so he can have his way with you.