Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[ck2modfan]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

There's a foreign object somewhere in the home (or you brought something in to decorate it etc). 

Do a full room tidy then record clutter again. 

thank you. that worked. don't know what the foreign object is. didn't recall seeing the recording clutter message (IIRC) when starting game in house. either way... thanks.

[ck2modfan]

wondering if something happened (or didn't happen) at start-up. now after getting the tense speech, not getting the relieve tension dialog. is there a way to kick start? tried debug and start timers. didn't change anything.

[Monoman1]

5 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

wondering if something happened (or didn't happen) at start-up. now after getting the tense speech, not getting the relieve tension dialog. is there a way to kick start? tried debug and start timers. didn't change anything.

Some people seem to get this and I have no idea why. I haven't seen it once. Starting to really annoy me now. 

 

So can you confirm that:

0: Conditions for sex approach: pchsFatherIntimacyApproach = 0, pchsFatherTasksDone >= 25

1. Father is approaching: "Your mother's been gone for so long already. Daddy's starting to get quite... *tense*." - pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 1

2. Are you cooperating or refusing?

 

3 Cooperating - pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 2

3a. If cooperating all you should need to do is wait 1 hour. Then father should get tense and the dialogue should appear. 

3b. If not check values: pchsBoundarySex & pchsRegSexBeginsAt. BoundarySex must be >= RegSexBeginsAt for the timer to fire tense sex.

 

4 Refusing

4a. Father should re-approach on conditions: pchsFatherIntimacyApproach = 1, pchsFatherTasksDone >= 40

4b. You are raped and pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 2

4c. Timer for sex should now fire every something like 4-8 hours. If not check values: pchsBoundarySex & pchsRegSexBeginsAt

 

You can kind of force speed things up by setting conditions manually and use the debug menu 'Fire force greet'.

You can also set pchsForceGreetStatusOff to disable the 'check in' FGs. (should be used for debugging only)

Edited June 2, 2022 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

Side note:

Something very funny is starting to happen to the FG dialogue block. The new approach for rent: "We need to talk sweetheart" leads into another topic explaining things. The FG topic should just automatically roll into the following topic, as has been the way with every other topic in the FG block. I've done this a thousand time before but now...

 

Spoiler

 

The problem is that "We need to talk sweetheart" has dialogue option "...". 

This usually means that invisible continue flag is not set on the topic. But it IS marked as invisible continue. 

 

It's not a major issue but it's very odd and extremely discouraging. What happens is father will move on to the explaining topic anyway as if invisible continue was set. But not really. Not until you click '...'. Then he'll start the explaining topic again... 

 

I've tried: 

Reflag topics as invisible continue. 

Deleting both the FG topic and the lead in topic and remaking them. 

Change the flag in TesEdit instead of CK

Rebuilt the SEQ file.

 

Maybe the FG block has just gotten too big. Wouldn't surprise me knowing bethesda...

So very fed up of the quirkiness of the CK now. I'd honestly say that dealing with this kind of shit takes up most of my modding time.

 

Edit:

*Sigh*

Changed '...' to 'Yes Father?'

At least makes sense now but I'm fearful of the future stability of the FG block and the fact that I (the creator) had to give in and change to suit the CK software....

3 hours spent trying to sort that nonsense today.

 

Edited June 2, 2022 by Monoman1

[coffeeink]

Regarding the …

 

this is sadly a common issue. I had this already a lot on WT before. So this is not a new issue. 
what is causing it … no idea.

 

you could do it the lola way. Remove FG and make a notification that father winks at you or smth (maybe with high Submission with a shock in the collar) that he wants something from you and you have to talk to him in the next 1 h or smth like that.

 

FG anyway have a high potential of breaking things.

Edited June 2, 2022 by coffeeink

[ck2modfan]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Some people seem to get this and I have no idea why. I haven't seen it once. Starting to really annoy me now. 

 

So can you confirm that:

0: Conditions for sex approach: pchsFatherIntimacyApproach = 0, pchsFatherTasksDone >= 25

1. Father is approaching: "Your mother's been gone for so long already. Daddy's starting to get quite... *tense*." - pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 1

2. Are you cooperating or refusing?

 

3 Cooperating - pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 2

3a. If cooperating all you should need to do is wait 1 hour. Then father should get tense and the dialogue should appear. 

3b. If not check values: pchsBoundarySex & pchsRegSexBeginsAt. BoundarySex must be >= RegSexBeginsAt for the timer to fire tense sex.

 

4 Refusing

4a. Father should re-approach on conditions: pchsFatherIntimacyApproach = 1, pchsFatherTasksDone >= 40

4b. You are raped and pchsFatherIntimacyApproach is set to 2

4c. Timer for sex should now fire every something like 4-8 hours. If not check values: pchsBoundarySex & pchsRegSexBeginsAt

 

You can kind of force speed things up by setting conditions manually and use the debug menu 'Fire force greet'.

You can also set pchsForceGreetStatusOff to disable the 'check in' FGs. (should be used for debugging only)

pchsFatherIntimacyApproach was 0 to start. changed to 1 during dialog. changed to 2 after dialog.

pchsFatherTasksDone was 47

cooperating... Intimacy, replace Ma in bed... You're my father... Fine... Good... Father pleased +3F, +1D (approach =2)

pchsBoundarySex = 0

RegSexBeginsAt = 0

passed time by cleaning dirt. both values still 0. father upset. -5F. apologized. +4F. still no relieve tension dialog

rewind after dialog... tried setting BoundarySex to 1 (since had to be greater than BeginsAt). still no relieve tension dialog

 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, coffeeink said:

FG anyway have a high potential of breaking things.

I've used FG extensively in the past. Never had a problem I couldn't solve by doing the things I did above. 

This seems different. I just hope it hasn't affected the older FGs....

1 hour ago, ck2modfan said:

tried setting BoundarySex to 1 (since had to be greater than BeginsAt).

No. Greater than or equal to. So it's fine.  

 

Thanks this is helpful but I still don't see the issue. Let's instead work backwards from the dialogue conditions:

pchsPcDepravity

pchsFatherSex

pchsPcBreeder

pchsPcGaveRough

Can you check these values please in cases where tense dialogue should be showing but isn't. 

 

don't know why that depravity check is there... seems superfluous...

Edited June 2, 2022 by Monoman1

[coffeeink]

8 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I've used FG extensively in the past. Never had a problem I couldn't solve by doing the things I did above. 

This seems different. I just hope it hasn't affected the older FGs....

with breaking i mean the following situations (happened to me on the old WT versions)

 

-> doing stuff with Brutus -> FG for punsihment => can't play scene because player is already in scene

-> licking floor, FG -> stuck in pose, Third Person Cam Bug triggers.

or simply player enters the house after shopping quest and Father starts a FG with something longer

 

This is what i meant with breaking.

 

[ck2modfan]

26 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I've used FG extensively in the past. Never had a problem I couldn't solve by doing the things I did above. 

This seems different. I just hope it hasn't affected the older FGs....

No. Greater than or equal to. So it's fine.  

 

Thanks this is helpful but I still don't see the issue. Let's instead work backwards from the dialogue conditions:

pchsPcDepravity

pchsFatherSex

pchsPcBreeder

pchsPcGaveRough

Can you check these values please in cases where tense dialogue should be showing but isn't. 

 

don't know why that depravity check is there... seems superfluous...

After dialog where Father approached:

pchsPcDepravity = 1.00

pchsFatherSex = -2.00

pchsPcBreeder = 0.00

pchsPcGaveRough = 0.00

[Monoman1]

1 minute ago, ck2modfan said:

pchsFatherSex = -2.00

Ok. This is cooperating right? 

What are the values after waiting 1 hour after this approach?

 

I'm suspecting pchsFatherSex is not getting set to 0 for some reason (should be zero for tense sex dialogue). 

 

Also, do you use PAH?

[ck2modfan]

8 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Ok. This is cooperating right? 

What are the values after waiting 1 hour after this approach?

 

I'm suspecting pchsFatherSex is not getting set to 0 for some reason (should be zero for tense sex dialogue). 

 

Also, do you use PAH?

Cooperating yes.

After 1 hour: same values except pchsFatherSex went from -2 to -1

Not using PAH

 

EDIT: In MCM at start of game, changed Max sex acts from 2 to 4 under progression.

Also, set pchsFatherSex to 0. After apology, dialog shows

Edited June 2, 2022 by ck2modfan

[Monoman1]

Just now, ck2modfan said:

After 1 hour: same values except pchsFatherSex went from -2 to -1

?

Set pchsFatherSex to 0

Got dialogue now ?

[ck2modfan]

7 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

?

Set pchsFatherSex to 0

Got dialogue now ?

Yes! 

 

Don't know if related but In MCM at start of game, changed Max sex acts from 2 to 4 under progression.

After apology dialog showed up. After "relieve" act, pchsFatherSex is 1.

 

[Monoman1]

4 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

Don't know if related but In MCM at start of game, changed Max sex acts from 2 to 4 under progression.

After apology dialog showed up. After "relieve" act, pchsFatherSex is 1.

Ok... 

Can you wait for the next relief session and let me know if the dialogue pops up this time. 

 

Something fishy. Seems like it's something to do with the timer/timestamp itself

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I just hope it hasn't affected the older FGs....

Spoke too soon. It seems it has affected older FGs that were working just fine. Or at least supply run intro is affected... Not good...

[ck2modfan]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Ok... 

Can you wait for the next relief session and let me know if the dialogue pops up this time. 

 

Something fishy. Seems like it's something to do with the timer/timestamp itself

During next hungry/thirsty events, tension available as well. pchsFatherSex = 0. Will let you know if somehow gets out of whack going forward. Thanks for your help.

[trellouk]

In my last few playthroughs there is no horse in the farm behind the house. The newest game i started is with the latest version of the mod but it happened in previous versions too. Does Brutus only appear behind the house after his milking quest becomes available or is there something wrong in my game. I tried the "placeatme" command after i searched him up in the console but he didn't spawn either. Best regards, thank you for working on the mod and keeping it alive with new ideas!

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, trellouk said:

In my last few playthroughs there is no horse in the farm behind the house. The newest game i started is with the latest version of the mod but it happened in previous versions too. Does Brutus only appear behind the house after his milking quest becomes available or is there something wrong in my game. I tried the "placeatme" command after i searched him up in the console but he didn't spawn either. Best regards, thank you for working on the mod and keeping it alive with new ideas!

He becomes available after going to buy him from skulvar.

[trellouk]

Thank you, i will try that out. It has been a long time since i played the mod to the fullest and couldn't remember that he must be purchased first.

[ck2modfan]

finally going down the pregnancy line... pregnant, milk requirement introduced, expecting 3 units. 

 

after milking from dwarven pump, have 4 weak milk. handed all over. still expecting milk.

 

didn't get any message when in inventory (like giving cumtainer).

 

any suggestions?

[RinolaRaylo]

On 5/31/2022 at 5:59 AM, Monoman1 said:

I think it's a joke buuut just in case: Father doesn't masturbate. Why would he? So I'd guess:

1. Another mod started the scene (and in a bad pos) like spectator crowds or something

2. Sex called for father + player but you've got full chastity gear on and the DD animation filter split you up. 

 

3. Checking if father is actually fucking mother would require a script check and I CBA

A joke, though I appreciate the informative answers too
Was a different mod that I didn't feel like fixing at the time that I started up Wartimes.

Edited June 4, 2022 by RinolaRaylo
Giving explanation to the cause.

[drboomalwaysop]

Is there any addon for this mod? It has so much potential and its just one step from completed. There's even no dialogue after being enslaved by uncle benjen .

[AoE_Freak]

51 minutes ago, drboomalwaysop said:

Is there any addon for this mod? It has so much potential and its just one step from completed. There's even no dialogue after being enslaved by uncle benjen .

Are you using the original version or Monoman1's edit? Monoman1 has added a ton to the mod, so you should definitely be using that version. I don't think Uncle Benjen has been changed though, but I've never tried that route so I'm not sure. 

 

[drboomalwaysop]

1 hour ago, AoE_Freak said:

Are you using the original version or Monoman1's edit? Monoman1 has added a ton to the mod, so you should definitely be using that version. I don't think Uncle Benjen has been changed though, but I've never tried that route so I'm not sure. 

 

Thank you so much! 

[kinkeag]

@Monoman1 Is it possible to get some idea of when the next update will be? However big? A few weeks? Months? No rush, Im just really looking forward to testing it!