Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[coffeeink]

Small Idea for the Party:

Why not start the second party with a suggestion of the guests. There is a mysterious potion which makes girls more curvy for a time

=> Before Party start Daughter is forced to drink the surival potion.

[Monoman1]

On 5/25/2022 at 10:13 PM, theprogamer+715 said:

Will this big update come out in segments or like one big drop?

Next update is already large. Will it include everything we've been talking about, no i doubt it. 

On 5/27/2022 at 12:02 AM, The Ashen said:

Mid game the "Soldier's Cook" task stopped becoming available. Is this intentional because I killed the dragon at the Western Watchtower, or is it a bug I can resolve?

No idea but the requesting the side tasks is at the mercy of RNG

6 hours ago, coffeeink said:

Small Idea for the Party:

Why not start the second party with a suggestion of the guests. There is a mysterious potion which makes girls more curvy for a time

=> Before Party start Daughter is forced to drink the surival potion.

Problem there is I'm not sure what would happen if you consume 2 inflate potions. 

The math was never considered that way so in SLS you can only get another potion when the first has worn off

[1Jessica1_1]

I see ppl are more active here so can you guys help me with Se version? It always CTD every time I start a new game 
I tried all the versions 10.0 - 9.2 Se same, Could someone send me working version Please?
I got all requirements needed 
i got all Crash fixes ect ect 

[kapibar]

4 minutes ago, 1Jessica1_1 said:

I see ppl are more active here so can you guys help me with Se version? It always CTD every time I start a new game \

WT is quite stable, it shouldn't cause CTD in on itself. Unless you have something that heavily changes locations in which WT places its infrastructure.

[audhol]

20 minutes ago, 1Jessica1_1 said:

I tried all the versions 10.0 - 9.2 Se same, Could someone send me working version Please?

Never had a problem with SE version of wartimes. I'm currently using 10.3 as uploaded here

If your getting an instant ctd whilst using that version you might want to check your crash log.

[1Jessica1_1]

11 minutes ago, audhol said:

Never had a problem with SE version of wartimes. I'm currently using 10.3 as uploaded here

If your getting an instant ctd whilst using that version you might want to check your crash log.

I also tried version 10.3 but I got same CTD I really have no clue what's wrong every thing works fine without Wartime mod no problems at all but when installing any version of it i got crashes

here my crash log from it i only know that War times is a problem and idk what to do ;/ Crash_2022_5_29_10-58-22.txt

Edited May 29, 2022 by 1Jessica1_1

[1Jessica1_1]

30 minutes ago, kapibar said:

WT is quite stable, it shouldn't cause CTD in on itself. Unless you have something that heavily changes locations in which WT places its infrastructure.

I don't have any mods that change the wt place, I have checked it without mod and it looks like the default one no changes at all 

[audhol]

11 minutes ago, 1Jessica1_1 said:

here my crash log from it i only know that War times is a problem and idk what to do ;/

I don't know how to work with a crash log sorry your going to need someone cleverer than me, all I know is that wartimes has to be right near the bottom of the load order and that if you also use SLS you need to have made the merged patch. I know that The people of skyrim is incompatible with wartimes and maybe theres other mods like @kapibar said thats effecting that area?

[1Jessica1_1]

well, thank you for trying.
I will try change the load order and see if that helps... and like u said maybe some one more clever will help me with crash log   i hope so...

Edited May 29, 2022 by 1Jessica1_1

[coffeeink]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Problem there is I'm not sure what would happen if you consume 2 inflate potions. 

The math was never considered that way so in SLS you can only get another potion when the first has worn off

If i remember it correctly basicly nothing bad. i can try it by basicly just get some and try it out manually.

 

But this can be anyway added later. not part of the first big change

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, 1Jessica1_1 said:

well, thank you for trying.
I will try change the load order and see if that helps... and like u said maybe some one more clever will help me with crash log   i hope so...

Are you running zaz v8?

Also WT should be below alternate start. Loot won't do this. 

[1Jessica1_1]

16 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Are you running zaz v8?

Also WT should be below alternate start. Loot won't do this. 

Yes Sir i got zaz v8+
I Put WT below alternate start and that also didn't fix my issue ;/ ty tho

[Monoman1]

12 minutes ago, 1Jessica1_1 said:

Yes Sir i got zaz v8+
I Put WT below alternate start and that also didn't fix my issue ;/ ty tho

Ah try zaz 8

[Vuzzar]

On 5/26/2022 at 7:02 PM, The Ashen said:

Mid game the "Soldier's Cook" task stopped becoming available. Is this intentional because I killed the dragon at the Western Watchtower, or is it a bug I can resolve?

 

Open the console and type: set pchsTaskSoldiers to 0

 

I haven't played this mod in a while, but if this bug hasn't been fixed yet, this should make the task available again. Setting the variable to -1 instead will make it go on cooldown. The variable is supposed to be set to -1 when the task is completed, but for some reason it's not. You will need to set the variable to -1 everytime you complete the task if you want to play the mod as intended.

 

I reported this bug about a year ago now...

 

 

 

 

[safado]

On 5/29/2022 at 8:11 AM, 1Jessica1_1 said:

Yes Sir i got zaz v8+
I Put WT below alternate start and that also didn't fix my issue ;/ ty tho

 

Are you using ZAZ SE 8.0+ from one of the links below?  The game goes CTD trying to load zbfPoleDance_MidWood "Pole Dance". The "Pole Dance" is in the middle of the "Home" but in a disabled state, until re-enabled during a gameplay scene.  ZAP older than 8 do not have "Dance" furniture.

 

Likely fault entry in log: (TESObjectREFR*) -> (FormId: 6502424C, File: `pchsWartimes.esp`, BaseForm: null)

Place in cell referencing ZAP8 Pole Dance but getting a NULL (do not exist) instead.  The entry also include a script from ZAP that also fail to load.

 

Also, remove any voice pack for Wartimes that includes an Elder Scrolls Plug-in (ESP file).  Remove any patch for Wartime SE posted in the SkyrimSE section, those are for legacy 1.0.

 

The packs of ZAP SE 8+ can be found here:

Select one of this Main packages:

• ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT Rev3 (not CBBE SE)***: https://mega.nz/#!WEgGDaCa!wAho2Rphy47Lcd55DEmV50GgN07CMnTjhQ_r9s6dq-I
• ZAZ 8.0+ UUNP HDT Rev3 : https://mega.nz/#!7ZQjmABY!5slFVs_5YB7DphHCrd2m1nzDTiIwpFoLyRKq6WUt6ek

• ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023 : https://mega.nz/file/7IhyFKrQ#IfUw7ex6vg6h0to4x5fQ7IoEJpUqUmW130p7aazDNmg

• ZAZ 8.0+ UUNP HDT 2023 : https://mega.nz/file/3FxmUQwB#fN7DSeTkL_yVssza0Hbxv1a7XdF9xul3gZyuEjVTp3A

***The meshes are for Skyrim LE CBBE and you will get floating breast's accessories if using CBBE SE or derivative.  Install and overwrite with bodyslide patch for CBBE SE and 3BA.

Patch with:

• ZAZ 8.0+ rev3 hotfix patch.  Copy to skyrim se\data and enable in load list after ZAP, necessary for all ZAP 8+.

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***Add-on for ZAP 8+: CBBE SE and 3BBB (3BA) bodyslides files.  Use it to overwrite ZAP 8+ CBBE.

ZAP 8.0+ CBBE SE 3BA: https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=871487

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Check dependencies:

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Wartimes tweak 10.x hard dependencies are:

• sexlab
• zaz animation pack 8plus  (8+)
• UIextensions:  now needed for hotkeys and proper init.
• Soft dependency but integral to extended features :  SL survival, v0.675 beta or better, is developed to complement wartimes.
• Recommend having "pchswartimes.esp" high(index number) in the load other, near or before the "modern brawl bug fix.esp" and the bashed/smashed patch. Make sure is loaded after any lighting effect modifiers.  If not sure, load it last.

 

• Not listed, but also a soft dependency:
  • Alternate Start - Live Another Life
    • not needed, the Wartime MCM menu also has a manual start.

  • EDIT MAR/30/2022: I was copy/pasting and forgot to add some old/new stuff:

    • Display Model 2 is not required. It is soft dependency now and the animation used is replaced with a valid ZAZ version.  DM2 assets were intended for pchsWartimes2 "Wartimes - Soulgem Factory" but that quest never got completed by PCHS. 
    • Devious Devices Expansion: Soft dependency. Dynamic DD removal cost. The favor cost to remove a devious device goes up when you get one removed. This cost gradually reduces back down to the base cost over time. Max cost and increment configurable in json: ddreminc & ddremmax. Minor devices like collars and cuff are ignored by default to maintain corruption/slavery context of Wartimes.
    • SLSO: soft dependency.  Track NPC orgasms to validate "satisfaction". May need tweaking SLSO settings because of some issues with the mod edging forever.
    • Schlongs of Skyrim: Soft dependency.  Change Father's schlongs to preferred fix value instead of default random. 
    • SD+ is soft dependency for some path that ends Wartimes main quest with the PC enslavement (Enslaved Daughter/Niece end).  Not having it will not break the game but instead will result in the PC in normal play with Wartime ending, and it quest completed.   This is not changed from original Wartime.
    • Simple Slavery:  Soft Dependency.  During Toss out scene, a possible outcome could be slavery by Simple Slavery's mods add-on. 
    • RapeTats: is soft dependency. Submissive sluts can ask their Father to mark them like the slut they are in exchange for favors.
    • Paradise Halls Enhanced(PAHE) is soft dependency, it is used to enslave NPCs as house servants. A way to delegate some tasks, but it needs to be requested by main NPC "Father". 
      • From Wartime 5.2: Paradise Halls: Father is building a harem of sluts with you as his queen slut. Assign PAH slaves to home duty. Father will grant you favour based on their stats: their body (weight), PAH submission, PAH sex training & wartimes 'home training'. Slaves will attempt to complete basic tasks for you when you're about to fail that task. Tasks covered: food, drink & sex for Father. Sex with Aldo. Cleaning the house & the supply run. Slaves can still fail their tasks and Father will hold you responsible for their failure too. Their traits are important for the success chance of the task. Slaves gain home training when they successfully complete a task. If they fail a task you can whip them to teach them a lesson and increase their training in the process. Even a useless slave is a nice safety net that might save you from failing a task. Slaves may periodically be fucked by Father or Aldo. Father's boredom plays a large part in the favour you receive from assigning a slave. If it's a new slave or a slave he hasn't had in a long time then you'll get the maximum favour for that slave based on her stats. If you assign a slave and immediately try to unassign her it'll cost you favour. If you unassign a slave and try to assign her back you'll get less favour due to Father's boredom with that slave. Slave must be wearing a leash collar. Only one slot currently. Probably bump it up to maybe 3 eventually.

 

Soft dependencies from author posts below:

From original Wartime tweak modification from Monoman1.

• Recommended mods for 'full' experience
• 2x Tweaks above.
  • He meant:
    • Amputator Framework Tweak
    • Immersive Fashion Tweak
• A pregnancy mod - Either Fertility Mode or Beeing Female
  • I recommend Fertility Mod v3 and add-on/patch Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Updates
• Fill Her Up Baka edition
• Devious Devices Expansion
• SL Survival  (the beta)
• Milk Mod Economy
• Optional - 'Time Passes' or 'Living Takes Time' to make tasks like cooking take time.
• Bathing in Skyrim Tweaked
• A mod that makes cum last longer - Maybe Sexlab Cum Overlays.

 

 

Edited June 19, 2023 by safado

[safado]

2 hours ago, Antaufein said:

 

Open the console and type: set pchsTaskSoldiers to 0

 

I haven't played this mod in a while, but if this bug hasn't been fixed yet, this should make the task available again. Setting the variable to -1 instead will make it go on cooldown. The variable is supposed to be set to -1 when the task is completed, but for some reason it's not. You will need to set the variable to -1 everytime you complete the task if you want to play the mod as intended.

 

I reported this bug about a year ago now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

The bug is still in 10.3.

 

@The Ashen

Evade bug by not offering blowjobs, your *slut. ?

Anything else is valid.

 

*joking

 

@Monoman1

Is in the script pchsWartimesSt200GetTaskSoldiers7 line 27 'taskSoldiers.SetValue(3)', need to be taskSoldiers.SetValue(-1). 

 

 

Triggered by dialogue entry [INFO:__0C15C6] ('It would please me greatly! Hope your little throat can handle me!' in GRUP Topic Children of pchsWartimesTaskSoldiersB001T005 "This slut would offer her mouth, if that pleases you?" [DIAL:__0C15C5])

 

Edited May 29, 2022 by safado

[RinolaRaylo]

Y'know, I think I see why he hasn't succeeded if this is him "trying."

[Monoman1]

On 5/30/2022 at 7:46 AM, RinolaRaylo said:

Y'know, I think I see why he hasn't succeeded if this is him "trying."

I think it's a joke buuut just in case: Father doesn't masturbate. Why would he? So I'd guess:

1. Another mod started the scene (and in a bad pos) like spectator crowds or something

2. Sex called for father + player but you've got full chastity gear on and the DD animation filter split you up. 

 

3. Checking if father is actually fucking mother would require a script check and I CBA

Edited May 31, 2022 by Monoman1

[ck2modfan]

started new (throw-away) campaign of WT in preparation for new potential features. some possible thoughts for future:

- nerf to trade: if PC has expensive item(s) that someone of their station should not have (jewel, potion, etc...), merchant will not buy. Assumed that PC stole it (even if didn't). Could even confiscate the item. if PC protests, calls guard/bounty.

- nerf to gold: if PC has over X amount of gold... something happens where PC becomes target. again, someone of their station should not have so much. some ideas: during father checkup, he notices PC has too much and arbitrarily takes some for himself. merchant changes buy/sell rate to be very unfavorable for PC (she can afford it)

- various other mods destroy clothes (Milk Addict, MWA (thanks for both btw!), Devious Mimics, etc...). whippings and other events destroy clothes. can the PC use favour to get new clothes from father? latest expected outfit?

EDIT: see that new clothese does indeed exist

- the misc tasks (dog walking, etc...) are never taken because they don't pay enough. maybe make configurable gold or they can earn favour? something to make the PC periodically be incented to take on task

- before father uses "all protein diet", provides food for PC but laced with either lactacid or skooma

- nerf to chopping wood for hulda. 5 gold per piece plus everything free in bannered mare. 

 

thanks for keeping this mod fresh with your new ideas!

Edited May 31, 2022 by ck2modfan

[tinkerbelle]

 

On 5/30/2022 at 1:46 AM, RinolaRaylo said:

Y'know, I think I see why he hasn't succeeded if this is him "trying."

Now, that's funny.  I guess this is why sex education should be taught in skyrim.

 

The only time I've seen that line is when I go into the wartimes house but I'm not playing wartimes and he invariably is having sex with mother.  Trying to talk with him at such times will give me that line.
 

[kinkeag]

Quick question about the rent system, whats the punishments for not paying rent other than building up debt? What impacts will the debt have on the gameplay, and at certain levels of dept, how will punishments manifest themselves? Bondage? Cellar? Sex progression? That sort of thing

[audhol]

Obviously not the sort of highbrow thing I would normaly watch, It was a....uhhh..... a friend that showed it to me I think from tiktok. Anyway here is father having a dinner party for his posh friends.

"I've got some important guests coming for dinner tonight, you will prepear a meal for them before they arrive"

"What do you want me to do when they get here daddy?"

"I don't want you embarrasing me with your slutty nonsence you will wait under the table and help my guests to relax whilst I talk business, If you're a good girl you'll get a  meal out of it too"

"Yes Daddy, whatever you want"

 

(yes I know its not possible to recreate without custom anims and scene spacing etc)

 

https://www.redtube.com/39992821

 

[Monoman1]

18 hours ago, audhol said:

Obviously not the sort of highbrow thing I would normaly watch, It was a....uhhh..... a friend that showed it to me I think from tiktok. Anyway here is father having a dinner party for his posh friends.

"I've got some important guests coming for dinner tonight, you will prepear a meal for them before they arrive"

"What do you want me to do when they get here daddy?"

"I don't want you embarrasing me with your slutty nonsence you will wait under the table and help my guests to relax whilst I talk business, If you're a good girl you'll get a  meal out of it too"

"Yes Daddy, whatever you want"

 

(yes I know its not possible to recreate without custom anims and scene spacing etc)

 

https://www.redtube.com/39992821

 

It's a fine idea but like you say it needs something more than a message box.

19 hours ago, kinkeag said:

Quick question about the rent system, whats the punishments for not paying rent other than building up debt? What impacts will the debt have on the gameplay, and at certain levels of dept, how will punishments manifest themselves? Bondage? Cellar? Sex progression? That sort of thing

ATM I don't think there is any punishment. It just piles up. The chief thing about debt is that father will take your shit to cover the cost. And he doesn't really give you great value for the things he takes - this encourages you to sell stuff you might like to hang on to. He'll also take things from your room so there's no hoarding wealth while trying to endure. 

 

I guess I could also, potentially, tie task failure to debt. Fail a task - add debt...

20 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

started new (throw-away) campaign of WT in preparation for new potential features. some possible thoughts for future:

- nerf to trade: if PC has expensive item(s) that someone of their station should not have (jewel, potion, etc...), merchant will not buy. Assumed that PC stole it (even if didn't). Could even confiscate the item. if PC protests, calls guard/bounty.

- nerf to gold: if PC has over X amount of gold... something happens where PC becomes target. again, someone of their station should not have so much. some ideas: during father checkup, he notices PC has too much and arbitrarily takes some for himself. merchant changes buy/sell rate to be very unfavorable for PC (she can afford it)

- various other mods destroy clothes (Milk Addict, MWA (thanks for both btw!), Devious Mimics, etc...). whippings and other events destroy clothes. can the PC use favour to get new clothes from father? latest expected outfit?

EDIT: see that new clothese does indeed exist

- the misc tasks (dog walking, etc...) are never taken because they don't pay enough. maybe make configurable gold or they can earn favour? something to make the PC periodically be incented to take on task

- before father uses "all protein diet", provides food for PC but laced with either lactacid or skooma

- nerf to chopping wood for hulda. 5 gold per piece plus everything free in bannered mare. 

 

thanks for keeping this mod fresh with your new ideas!

Some interesting ideas there but I think some of them would be better placed in SLS. Top 2 in particular and maybe the last one. 

 

Chopping wood - I think it'll depend on things. 30 gold for watching a boring chop wood animation seems fair. It's just that the other side tasks pay less for more game time. Maybe passing time would discourage it more. 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Monoman1

[ck2modfan]

Getting message: No position data for clutter. Tried Wheel/Tidy/Record Clutter. Any way to fix? SE 10.3 version.

[Monoman1]

5 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

Getting message: No position data for clutter. Tried Wheel/Tidy/Record Clutter. Any way to fix? SE 10.3 version.

There's a foreign object somewhere in the home (or you brought something in to decorate it etc). 

Do a full room tidy then record clutter again.