Submissive Lola: The resubmission

[Herowynne]

52 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

hexbolt really does what we propose and that immediately, without patron.  We have to value that.

I agree completely. @HexBolt8 has done amazing work these past few months on Simple Slavery++ and Submissive Lola. I have had a ton of fun playing with all the new features in these mods, and I am pleased to have been able to help out a bit myself.

[Krynn]

Is there also an Update of this Mod?
Unfortunately I don't know what's current and what's not anymore with all these small patches here in this Thread.

 

[HexBolt8]

7 minutes ago, Krynn said:

Is there also an Update of this Mod?
Unfortunately I don't know what's current and what's not anymore with all these small patches here in this Thread.

This update plus version 1.1 is the latest.  There is one dialog script fix that Roggvir reported that is not included, but otherwise that's everything so far.

[VolfDeMar]

3 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

This update plus version 1.1 is the latest.  There is one dialog script fix that Roggvir reported that is not included, but otherwise that's everything so far.

Thanks for your work, we look forward to continuing!

[tester86]

Great mod. I've run Lola even before the updated versions and it's only getting better. Two things I noticed. One, mistress says "you know, a slave should keep a butt plug in." Yet she never has a task to wear one. Also, mistress says, "be careful, you may end up tied to a pillory," and she never does that either. Seems two good additions, a task for a butt plug randomly like wear one for x number of days, just like the hair and / or naked rule and maybe in cities with pillories a "hop aboard, Lola. I'll let you out... eventually." I realize it can be seen a boring to be tied to furniture, but if you're owner is whoring you out so she can "watch," like she said she would enjoy. 

Just an observation. Like I said. Great mod. 

[HexBolt8]

Mistress sometimes says things to keep you guessing about what she might do.  Some of those things could be a good future addition.

[Tempy]

Wouldn’t it be immersive to actually have the character to have the option to maintain the hair style/color when she has a higher submissive score?

Which will ”lock” as the new standard hair style/color, which will then again lead to the having his/her owner to change it again, because the slave cannot choose anyways! 

[HexBolt8]

37 minutes ago, Tempy said:

Wouldn’t it be immersive to actually have the character to have the option to maintain the hair style/color when she has a higher submissive score?

Yes it would, and you have that option.  It's the ShowRaceMenu command.  ? Choose a new forced hair style in the MCM, and make the last forced one your regular hair style with ShowRaceMenu.  Now you're stuck with the changed style, and the next time the event triggers, you'll get the new style.  You can repeat that process is much as you like, with your owner changing your new base style every week or two.

[KLongad Sirtup]

@HexBolt8 @MrEsturk Hey, checkout the modder's API for Immersive Hair Growth and Styling. Take note of it utilising mod events - no hard dependencies. You can also lockout player hair style changes, amongst other things.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/56627-immersive-hair-growth-and-styling-yps-devious-immersive-fashion-541-2017-07-01/?p=1753180

[HexBolt8]

1 minute ago, KLongad Sirtup said:

Hey, checkout the modder's API for Immersive Hair Growth and Styling. Take note of it utilising mod events - no hard dependencies.

That's interesting, I didn't know that something like that existed.  Though I have to say that I had enough trouble getting the existing system working (I'd thought it was going to be easy -- it wasn't) so I'm reluctant to revisit it, but perhaps MrEsturk will want to.

[KLongad Sirtup]

I was the one to initially suggest the API style to the author in order to help modder's (creators like you and MrEsturk).

[KLongad Sirtup]

If you ever want to give the player character the ultimate punishment or torture checkout (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/142563-pama´s-deadly-furniture-scripts/) though take into account it has a version 1.6 on Patreon (for patrons).

 

[KLongad Sirtup]

Also the hair styles are changed in an immersive fashion by going to a pair of stylists in the fashion shop (Radiant Raiment) in Solitude.

[HexBolt8]

A couple of quality of life tips.

 

Run Lola Run

 

The road into Solitude has a tiny section, roughly halfway to the Statue of Meridia, that has the LocCity keyword.  I kept having Run Lola Run trigger there (NFF's outfit manager was also quickly switching the owner to town wear and back).  I traced this to the cell SolitudeAttackStart02 (form ID 000092C1) which is assigned to SolitudeLocation.  I have a personal tweaks mod so I edited that cell to change the location to null (simply deleting the Location field isn't enough).  End of both problems.  If you're willing to make your own tweaks, you can easily do this in your own game.

 

Radiant Prostitution

 

A common trick with Radiant Prostitution is to assign your owner to the innkeeper faction in the console (AddFac 5091B 1) so the owner can be your pimp.  A side effect is that the owner can sometimes greet you as the innkeeper when you enter a tavern.  My solution was to also add the owner to WINoTavernFaction (AddFac 1365C 1).

[Lekefeno]

I wonder if its already in the mod even though i havent seen it yet. But it would be interesting that when u leave ur mistress/master and that you come back to them to become a slave once again they would have conditions, such as being a lifelong slave or asking questions on how submissive is the PC which could lead to lifelong slavery or contract slavery depending on the submissivness. Its just that is doesnt feel right that the owner doesnt even punish the slave for having the audicity to leave. It would help with the immersion also

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

A common trick with Radiant Prostitution is to assign your owner to the innkeeper faction in the console (AddFac 5091B 1) so the owner can be your pimp.  A side effect is that the owner can sometimes greet you as the innkeeper when you enter a tavern.  My solution was to also add the owner to WINoTavernFaction (AddFac 1365C 1).

It would be nice if Submissive Lola offered an MCM checkbox to do this "Owner can be your pimp".

[VolfDeMar]

On 10/11/2020 at 2:56 AM, HexBolt8 said:

This update plus version 1.1 is the latest.  There is one dialog script fix that Roggvir reported that is not included, but otherwise that's everything so far.

Please correct the modification Devious Framework !!!

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3111-devious-framework-dfw/

[madcyb]

12 hours ago, Lekefeno said:

I wonder if its already in the mod even though i havent seen it yet. But it would be interesting that when u leave ur mistress/master and that you come back to them to become a slave once again they would have conditions, such as being a lifelong slave or asking questions on how submissive is the PC which could lead to lifelong slavery or contract slavery depending on the submissivness. Its just that is doesnt feel right that the owner doesnt even punish the slave for having the audicity to leave. It would help with the immersion also

oki if it's something light, who let you a choice to get free for a while ... or not ... but are you really free when you allways finish to come back to your Mistress ?

[CaptainJ03]

20 hours ago, Lekefeno said:

It's just that is doesnt feel right that the owner doesnt even punish the slave for having the audicity to leave. It would help with the immersion also

But your owner does that. She gives you a goodbye-thrashing, and when you tell her that you'd want to be her slave again, she comments along the lines of, "told ya you'd be crawling back to me!" I think she gave me another thrashing as a welcome.

 

If your immersion feels awkward that your voluntary submission isn't changed to something permanent - just tweak your MCM settings. It is possible to become a permanent slave, but I for my part am very glad that I can leave har as soon as my contract (and the extra-days, and the days of being kept because my submission score is too high) is over, get things done by myself (w/o some looney triggering every trap), and when I'm ready, submit to her again, as long as I care.

 

[AnnaShapard]

found a small problem, "your Owner Backens" doesn't work if she is sitting.

[HexBolt8]

1 hour ago, AnnaShapard said:

found a small problem, "your Owner Backens" doesn't work if she is sitting.

What part doesn't work?  That message indicates that the owner is doing a force greeting.  In my game, the owner will stand up from the chair and run over to my character to start a conversation. 

[shiagwen]

If the master is the pimp too, some things must be changed :

1. some dialogues from the master regarding the innkeeper, who is now himself

2. RP dialogues at innkeepers must be deleted at all. only the master can open prostitution

 

in mcm there are 2 sliders, which do dont work if rp is installed. does this mean, that lola does prostitution without RP ?

[HexBolt8]

Someone had mentioned a while back that the piercings can trigger too often and in inconvenient locations.  I had added conditions so that the owner wouldn't trigger them in a dungeon or within about 5 minutes of the last time.  If the owner does it, you'll see a message that the owner "activates your vibration devices."  However, the DD piercings you receive have the Lively keyword and Devious Devices will randomly activate them.  If it's happening too often, open the DD MCM, go to Events and Effects, and set Vibration Chance to a lower value.  The setting affects all DD vibration events, including plugs.

 

MrEsturk carried this feature over from the XDFF mod.  It's a nice way for the owner to exert control.  My character has been trying to maintain sexual independence from the owner, never asking for sex.  But with masturbation denial active, and not being able to have sex with other people without permission (roleplay), there's no outlet except the prostitution event.  That was okay until she got the piercings.  Now arousal is always high, and that comes with debuffs from other mods.  So she's not being forced to ask her owner for sex, just put in a position where she'll want to.  I think having to ask for something she's trying to avoid is so much better than being forced.

[HexBolt8]

26 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

If the master is the pimp too, some things must be changed

You know, if you're asking someone to do something for you, he is much less likely to want to do it if you tell him what he "must" do for you.

26 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

some dialogues from the master regarding the innkeeper, who is now himself

Things like "I have an arrangement with the innkeeper" could certainly be changed.  And I explained a few posts back how to add the owner to a faction to suppress the tavern greetings. 

26 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

RP dialogues at innkeepers must be deleted at all.

Not going to happen.  That's in Radiant Prostitution, not this mod.  This mod does not change other mods in any way.

26 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

in mcm there are 2 sliders, which do dont work if rp is installed. does this mean, that lola does prostitution without RP ?

I believe that's explained by the MCM info text, "NOT USED IF RADIANT PROSTITUTION IS ENABLED".  The basic version is limited, but it does the job.

[Guest AthenaESIV]

Someday someone is going to make a mod that uses Lola and SLS to make jarls not trust the PC to do her tasks at all, basically giving them an escort that only lasts as long as a quest does, and it will be magnificent, lol. (Slaverun attempted this, but Slaverun in general is just way too heavy handed and abandoned for me to even attempt using it anymore... The only feature I really miss from Slaverun are the NPC guards that stood outside of town and inspected the player.... I might add that into the game myself)

 

I imagine they will somehow make aliases of the features you guys have made to give the different chaperones distinct feels. Maybe even have some quality custom voice work.

 

The wheel of Skyrim mods keeps turning...