Submissive Lola: The resubmission

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

After my two weeks of service were done, I told Mistress to go fuck herself (had to get my submission score below 95 so she'd let me go) - but at the same time she was about to give me a goodbye-whipping, it seems that she tried simultaneously to start the Adventuring Slave. I got thoroughly zapped while standing with hands behind my head, and no whipping occured.

I will check to be sure that the mod blocks new events from starting at that point.  I probably overlooked this case.  Thank you for the bug report.

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Grabbed another follower on the run but couldn't tell him the I need a Strong Hand. This is absolutely correct, works as designed, but was just a little oddity I wanted to share.

It works that way so that if you don't plan to submit to that follower, you don't have "I want to tell you something unusual" in your follower's dialog all the time and it's one less quest active.

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

So now I am without an owner - but the magic menu still has the "Inspired Service"

Thanks for noting this.  I'll fix it.  You're stuck with it until you get a new owner, or you can remove it with "Player.RemoveSpell xx050DD8".

 

Regarding contracts, the mod doesn't at this time remember whether you ever had one.  It just sees that the current time is zero.  I understand what you're saying, but even if you had a contract in the past, if you managed to get the time to zero then you won the struggle with your owner, and there should be a benefit to escaping the contract.

 

That point leads to a new feature I'm working on, gold for contract time.  As an incentive, if you are not in a contract and not being kept (i.e., you could end enslavement at any time), you'll be able to ask your owner for financial help (a configurable amount of gold) in exchange for a contract of a certain duration.  This can provide an immersive way for you to get a contract if you don't have one, or even to become a slave to start with (an alternate start to Strong Hand).  It's a way for not particularly submissive (or merely curious) characters to become a slave -- temporarily of course -- and get stuck in the arrangement if you're using the feature to add days to the contract when punished.  Or, it could be a way to get quick cash to pay a Devious Follower (if you don't think that's cheating).

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, BlueBerryCaffe said:

Recorder seems to work fine. Even between her blabberings she makes comments about PC

Good to hear.  How well does Recorder work as a dominant follower?  I've never used her, but my impression is that she's kind of in awe of you, which is a strange fit if she's making you do humiliating things.  Maybe she got disillusioned after seeing what you're really like?

[Chloe Rose]

On 9/18/2020 at 8:44 PM, HexBolt8 said:

Good to hear.  How well does Recorder work as a dominant follower?  I've never used her, but my impression is that she's kind of in awe of you, which is a strange fit if she's making you do humiliating things.  Maybe she got disillusioned after seeing what you're really like?

Oh well... she is... nice  You are right about about the "awe of you" but in my opinion that plays lovely with SL. Especially with SS++. Imagine... that kind of girl who saves the PC from an auction but keeps her on contract because... she IS AWE of th PC but nobody said Recorder has not a kiny dark side  

And second thing, as Skyrim is about visuals.. (we are visual freaks... are not we :P?) Recorder with her body slides (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17214) and coupled with this Ninirim Collection (GOD BLESS the author for this and her absolutly gorgeous work https://sunkeumjeong.wixsite.com/mysite/post/sunjeong-ninirim-collection-6-0 ) and AFT (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6656) which enables Recoder outfit management .... makes of her simply a wonderfull domina with a soft&weird touch
And this body.... and thiiiighs.... My eyes are crying happiness  
PS: screens below are an arrangement. Not a pure result from SL. I am waiting through the gamplay to happen RoFLz

 

 

 

 

[Krynn]

Sorry, I didn't get that after so many updates. Do you get piercings from your master now, or not?

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, Krynn said:

Do you get piercings from your master now, or not?

Yes, you may get piercings from your owner.

*Gasps* You pierced my... and both my... what are these things!?

[Sospice]

I posted this on Sexlabs Survival since the fix would probably need to be made in that mod, but was wondering if anyone came up for a patch for this yet?

I think HexBolt8 would just have to make the creator of SLS aware of the situation and that mod creator could use the same solution for SLR that they did with SD+.



"I had a small issue between this mod and submissive lola resubmission.

 

If you have licenses turned on and you don't have a license, and your character is wearing the collar from SLR, when the toll guard puts the collar on you it ends up in your inventory. The problem is that you can't remove the SLR collar without consequences.

Is it possible to make it so this mod reacts to that situation the way it does to SD+'s sanguine's collar situation? It detects that collar and assigns your character arm cuffs instead.

Or another possibility, make it so there's an option in the MCM for which bondage item/ slot you want the cursed device to be in. "

[Hex Bolt]

16 minutes ago, Sospice said:

I posted this on Sexlabs Survival since the fix would probably need to be made in that mod, but was wondering if anyone came up for a patch for this yet?

Yes, I saw that and MM1's response.  The Slave Collars from SLTR all have the zad_BlockGeneric and zad_QuestItem keywords (as well as zad_DeviousCollar).  However, they are not DD collars, which lock and have a worn item and a hidden item.  SLTR collars are a single worn item that goes in the collar slot.  I can message MM1 with the info, but it's up to him if he wants to do anything with it.

20 minutes ago, Sospice said:

The problem is that you can't remove the SLR collar without consequences.

But you can.  Switch collars and use the one from Survival.  As long as that one has the zad_DeviousCollar or zbfWornCollar keyword, SLTR will be satisfied.

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, BlueBerryCaffe said:

You are right about about the "awe of you" but in my opinion that plays lovely with SL. Especially with SS++. Imagine... that kind of girl who saves the PC from an auction but keeps her on contract because... she IS AWE of th PC but nobody said Recorder has not a kiny dark side

That sounds unusual, but it could be fun.  I guess she decides that those angry "mmphs" mean you're enjoying yourself.  In future, if you can use a spoiler section for screenshots then readers can scroll by if they're just trying to skim the discussions.

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

8 hours ago, Krynn said:

Do you get piercings from your master now, or not?

Yes, you may get piercings from your owner.

*Gasps* You pierced my... and both my... what are these things!?

You have to enable "Vibrating Piercings" on the Devices MCM page for this mod, and your score must be at last 50.

[shiagwen]

i had the feeling that the beckons you  comes very much more often since that patch with the timescale. .  and mostly nothing comes. 

what is the longest possible time between beckons you if slider at max and timescale 5 ?

 

i would like to have the possibility in mcm to disable some kind of services. i really dont like cooking, ale and sweetrolls, dancing looks bugged short, well what do i like ? making a whore and .... hmm ....

 

there are more crossovers with maria eden. you can notice it as incompatible at descrition page, if necessary. i dont think many people still play it and it is abandoned anyway.

[Krynn]

23 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

i had the feeling that the beckons you  comes very much more often since that patch with the timescale. .  and mostly nothing comes. 

what is the longest possible time between beckons you if slider at max and timescale 5 ?

 

i would like to have the possibility in mcm to disable some kind of services. i really dont like cooking, ale and sweetrolls, dancing looks bugged short, well what do i like ? making a whore and .... hmm ....

 

there are more crossovers with maria eden. you can notice it as incompatible at descrition page, if necessary. i dont think many people still play it and it is abandoned anyway.

 

The dancing could really take longer, somewhere before mentioned by me in this Thread.
With me she dances for 5 seconds and then there is a sex scene again.
It should only be dancing, about one minute and then end without sex.

 

[Krynn]

57 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

You have to enable "Vibrating Piercings" on the Devices MCM page for this mod, and your score must be at last 50.

 

Yes thanks, I just wanted to know if I have to buy the piercings myself, or if I get them from my master.

 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Krynn said:

With me she dances for 5 seconds and then there is a sex scene again.

If you have ZAP8 installed and registered on the Mod Integration page, your character will use the longer dances provided by ZAP8, varying from 15 to 33 seconds depending on the situation, not too long because some players get impatient when their controls are locked for more than half a minute or so.

 

If you do not have ZAP8 or have not registered it, your character will use the basic Skyrim dance done by Cicero.  It's set for 7 seconds (because it's a boring dance) but it's possible that it is stopping early at 5 seconds. 

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

i had the feeling that the beckons you  comes very much more often since that patch with the timescale.

Yes, that was the point.  "The MCM setting for frequency of offering service is now scaled to your game's timescale.  100% is about 6 real minutes.  If you use a slower timescale and you've been satisfied with the experience, you will want to increase this setting now to keep the frequency the same."

 

Note that this setting is for the frequency that you can offer service.  If you don't, then a while later the owner will make a demand.  However, there are many events that are not on a timer.  They can be triggered by location, arousal, or other factors.  If you enter a town with an inn, you might get the Run Lola Run event, and that can occur immediately after another event.  Things like that have their own cooldown periods, and they activate as soon as their conditions are met.  

1 hour ago, Krynn said:

I just wanted to know if I have to buy the piercings myself, or if I get them from my master.

Your owner will provide them.

[Chloe Rose]

4 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

That sounds unusual, but it could be fun.  I guess she decides that those angry "mmphs" mean you're enjoying yourself.  In future, if you can use a spoiler section for screenshots then readers can scroll by if they're just trying to skim the discussions.

Oooops  Sorry. Never used the option

Screens deleted  I will use spoilers

[Sospice]

5 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

 

But you can.  Switch collars and use the one from Survival.  As long as that one has the zad_DeviousCollar or zbfWornCollar keyword, SLTR will be satisfied.

 

Yes, that's true. But you've got that great option of choosing your collar of choice. With his it's random and I hate to give up your option for selecting a collar.

You spoiled us with that.  

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Sospice said:

Yes, that's true. But you've got that great option of choosing your collar of choice. With his it's random and I hate to give up your option for selecting a collar.

You spoiled us with that.

Actually the collar content was all MrEsturk's work but yes I like choice too, especially for an item that must always be worn.  I communicated briefly with Monoman1 and he has a script change that should recognize the collars from this mod.  I can't speak for him, so I don't know if or when that would go into Survival.  The SLTR collars have the right keywords and use the right slot, but some of the DD script functions aren't recognizing them since they are not DD locking collars.  A real DD collar should satisfy both mods without any changes (just providing information).

[Sospice]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Actually the collar content was all MrEsturk's work but yes I like choice too, especially for an item that must always be worn.  I communicated briefly with Monoman1 and he has a script change that should recognize the collars from this mod.  I can't speak for him, so I don't know if or when that would go into Survival.  The SLTR collars have the right keywords and use the right slot, but some of the DD script functions aren't recognizing them since they are not DD locking collars.  A real DD collar should satisfy both mods without any changes (just providing information).

Thanks, the information is appreciated.

I've had a bit of trouble in the past trying to install SLS where sometimes it creates issues with MCM freezing when making changes to mods in MCM. Usually you exit and go back in and it works okay until you try to make some value changes and then it freezes again; at that point I'd load back, reinstall and if that MCM issue (or another issue where another Mod just won't show in MCM after installing SLS) didn't happen all worked fine.

 

But I did get a problem with a new game I just started where everything seemed fine but your mod (SLR) just wouldn't function. Reading the book didn't give the quest start notification and I couldn't generate the dialogue with a follower. I loaded back to before I put SLS on and tested again and SLR worked fine, with the quest starting from reading the book working properly. 

This isn't anything that I think you can do something about it. I'm just mentioning this for information if other SLS users bring it up. I had one other mod where I had this problem when installing and running SLS. So I think there's something about how SLS first installs that can create problems that can crop up with other mods not functioning properly. 

It seems to be entirely a first time install issue, if it installs properly great, if not you get problems, and it's intermittent. I've gone to a safe zone cell and tried installing just that mod there and it still may or may not have issues. I'm wondering if it's just installing too fast, and maybe some delays in program loading in might help (timer delays or wait states). I've got a pretty fast computer so pretty sure it's not that.

[Kargano01]

Hello,

Thanks again for the nice work.

I found a little bug.

My (female) PC is wearing the Breast Collar. But every time i close the gameand restart it, it switch to a normal iron collar. I can then ask my Mistress to change and i have the right collar.

again.  It is not a big thing .. just recognized..

 

Many Many Thanks for this Mod Updates.

 

Kinga

[valcon767]

5 hours ago, Sospice said:

This isn't anything that I think you can do something about it. I'm just mentioning this for information if other SLS users bring it up. I had one other mod where I had this problem when installing and running SLS. So I think there's something about how SLS first installs that can create problems that can crop up with other mods not functioning properly. 

It seems to be entirely a first time install issue, if it installs properly great, if not you get problems, and it's intermittent. I've gone to a safe zone cell and tried installing just that mod there and it still may or may not have issues. I'm wondering if it's just installing too fast, and maybe some delays in program loading in might help (timer delays or wait states). I've got a pretty fast computer so pretty sure it's not that.

there is/was a bug with SLS when setting the MCM in the AS-LAL cell.  if you tried to set the whole MCM in that cell it could cause MCM freeze.

solution is/was to not change all the settings in that cell.  after leaving the AS-LAL start cell and progressing a little bit it was safe to finish adjusting

the SLS MCM.  the SLS MCM has changed since i started this playthrough.  i am on SLS 6.02 and there is a more recent beta, i cannot state whether the

problem is still there or not.   i usually set the SLS MCM settings and stop at the half way point until game started (left AS-LAL cell) and then moved

locations once, then finish setting the MCM. has worked fine for me by doing that.

 

[MikeTM]

@HexBolt8

Sorry, it's me again

Problem in "EnterPalace"

 

Log:

[09/20/2020 - 03:00:35PM] Error: Method "coolDownP" not found on vkjmq. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    .vkj_z050377CC.Fragment_0() - "vkj_z050377CC.psc" Line 10
[09/20/2020 - 03:00:35PM] Error: Cannot call SetValue() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [vkjEnterPalace (240377C6)].vkjtrick.end() - "vkjtrick.psc" Line 35
    .vkj_z050377CC.Fragment_0() - "vkj_z050377CC.psc" Line 11

 

Quest : vkjEnterPalace
Script : vkjTrick
Properties : 
eyecandyspells[] - Not filled ?
SpecialTrickToPerform - Not filled 

Sorry, but IMHO for Quest/Scripts/Properties Better use CK - you can clearly see what properties are there, whether they are filled in or not, and the extra ones(missing) he cleans it himself
 

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Kargano01 said:

My (female) PC is wearing the Breast Collar. But every time i close the gameand restart it, it switch to a normal iron collar. I can then ask my Mistress to change and i have the right collar.

Do you mean the "Nipple Ring" collar?  Is that the only collar that has the problem in your game?

1 hour ago, MikeTM said:

Problem in "EnterPalace"

Thank you, I'll look into it.

[shiagwen]

19 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

If you have ZAP8 installed and registered on the Mod Integration page, your character will use the longer dances provided by ZAP8, varying from 15 to 33 seconds depending on the situation, not too long because some players get impatient when their controls are locked for more than half a minute or so.

 

If you do not have ZAP8 or have not registered it, your character will use the basic Skyrim dance done by Cicero.  It's set for 7 seconds (because it's a boring dance) but it's possible that it is stopping early at 5 seconds. 

Yes, that was the point.  "The MCM setting for frequency of offering service is now scaled to your game's timescale.  100% is about 6 real minutes.  If you use a slower timescale and you've been satisfied with the experience, you will want to increase this setting now to keep the frequency the same."

 

Note that this setting is for the frequency that you can offer service.  If you don't, then a while later the owner will make a demand.  However, there are many events that are not on a timer.  They can be triggered by location, arousal, or other factors.  If you enter a town with an inn, you might get the Run Lola Run event, and that can occur immediately after another event.  Things like that have their own cooldown periods, and they activate as soon as their conditions are met.  

Your owner will provide them.

may zap 8 - zap 7 be the reason for whipping duration too short ?

[Hex Bolt]

29 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

may zap 8 - zap 7 be the reason for whipping duration too short ?

I don't think so.  The scripts are the same, at least the ones for player whipping, and no one else has reported a problem with ZAP7 whipping so I don't believe that the version makes a difference for this function.

[shiagwen]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

I don't think so.  The scripts are the same, at least the ones for player whipping, and no one else has reported a problem with ZAP7 whipping so I don't believe that the version makes a difference for this function.

Test New Game zap 8.0 lola actual version started with 300 hp life, like lvl 20

whipping pose was not standing but kneeling with hands behind head.

duration was registered for 120 seconds

Result : after 36 seconds life was down and whipping ended .

 

in ck weapon damage from 2 changed to 0, no effect, again 36 seconds.

[Krynn]

Somehow there are too many options in the MCM menu.