Simple Slavery Plus Plus

[jfraser]

12 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

No, LE.

That’s what I thought. @Delzaron is using SE, so the version of ZAZ you’re using is irrelevant. 
 

Del, my guess is that one of your mods is the wrong version. I’d go through and make sure they’re all SE compatible. 

[Delzaron]

50 minutes ago, jfraser said:

That’s what I thought. @Delzaron is using SE, so the version of ZAZ you’re using is irrelevant. 
 

Del, my guess is that one of your mods is the wrong version. I’d go through and make sure they’re all SE compatible. 

 

yep, I can smell that too...

 

I have both LE and SE now... that's a mess.

[Delzaron]

I desactived almost all the mods... i kept simple slavery and it's dependencies for easy testing.

 

And it's exactly the same situation : only the first dialogue line in the auction scene, and the scene freeze.

 

I still hope to avoid the full resinstallation, but it will difficult right now... I can't even see if my mods conversions are working !

[PussieTepulus]

10 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Too late for that.  I have 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900, similar to yours.  It works great for every game I've tried on it (quite a few).  Skyrim DRM is a Steam account and an internet connection (or none if you have the GOG version).  If you're having trouble with Skyrim, it's not your CPU.

Mine works great except when it comes to Form 43 mods instead of Form 44 for SE.  They worked on my older computer which burned out.  Miss my older computer.  6 new installs SOS Shop, Simple Slavery, and Slavers Spellbook all Form 43 crash.  Everything else no crash and no infinite load screens.  All mods are compatible and worked on my older computer.

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, PussieTepulus said:

Lara it is Form 44 which is culprit.  We need Computer Platform, CPU, and Type of Memory DDR3/DDR4/DDR5.  It is the Form 40 to Form 43 all over again.  Skyrim Armageddon.

This is simply false.  You're either badly misinformed or trolling.  If it's the former, do yourself a favor and go have a stern talk with whoever is feeding you this nonsense.  When you stop looking for magic bullets, you can begin the work of fixing the real problems with your installation.

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Delzaron said:

only the first dialogue line in the auction scene, and the scene freeze.

A dialog freeze is unusual for this mod.  Is the first line clearly the start of the auction?  They're all different, but something like "Next up is a strong specimen."

[Delzaron]

Just now, HexBolt8 said:

A dialog freeze is unusual for this mod.  Is the first line clearly the start of the auction?  They're all different, but something like "Next up is a strong specimen."

yep, I never got the second line. It's the same for the scene in neophytes of dibella, or in Dark arena for the arena speech.

[Hex Bolt]

7 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

yep, I never got the second line. It's the same for the scene in neophytes of dibella, or in Dark arena for the arena speech.

Okay.  I feel better that it's not just scenes from Simple Slavery.    Are you using ZAP 8 or earlier, a version that's been around awhile and that you've used successfully in the past?  For what it's worth, this mod doesn't use much of ZAP, just the crux (which is window dressing) and the poses.

 

I don't see anything in your setup that should cause a problem, though I would enable USSEP even for this basic test.  If you're going truly minimalistic then SexLab and Aroused aren't needed by Simple Slavery or ZAP.

 

I'm not familiar with the crash or stability fixes for SE, but you might check that you have the ones that are commonly used, and look over their config settings (I saw something recently about a graphics option for a crash fix for SE that had to be turned off, I think).  Depending on how you install things, it's possible that you have some SKSE plugins in your data folder or an override folder that are causing trouble.

 

You might turn on logging and see if there's a clue in the output.

[Delzaron]

6 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Okay.  I feel better that it's not just scenes from Simple Slavery.    Are you using ZAP 8 or earlier, a version that's been around awhile and that you've used successfully in the past?  For what it's worth, this mod doesn't use much of ZAP, just the crux (which is window dressing) and the poses.

 

I don't see anything in your setup that should cause a problem, though I would enable USSEP even for this basic test.  If you're going truly minimalistic then SexLab and Aroused aren't needed by Simple Slavery or ZAP.

 

I'm not familiar with the crash or stability fixes for SE, but you might check that you have the ones that are commonly used, and look over their config settings (I saw something recently about a graphics option for a crash fix for SE that had to be turned off, I think).  Depending on how you install things, it's possible that you have some SKSE plugins in your data folder or an override folder that are causing trouble.

 

You might turn on logging and see if there's a clue in the output.

 

I 'try to minimize it again...

If nothing works, I'll desintall and reinstall it tonight.

[Hex Bolt]

19 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

If nothing works, I'll desintall and reinstall it tonight.

You should do something a little more fun for New Year's Eve.

[Delzaron]

7 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

You should do something a little more fun for New Year's Eve.

 

Don't worry, I'll dont pass the night on the PC. Steam can handle this alone.

[PussieTepulus]

9 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

This is simply false.  You're either badly misinformed or trolling.  If it's the former, do yourself a favor and go have a stern talk with whoever is feeding you this nonsense.  When you stop looking for magic bullets, you can begin the work of fixing the real problems with your installation.

I am not trolling nor misinformed.  Please explain then crashes on Form 43 mods when I install on 7 new reinstalls of game and required mods only.  And troubleshot through them.  It is still crashing and infinite load screen on reinstall of Skyrim SE.  Every other mod works except yours, SOS Shop, and Slavers Spellbook.  Let's test a Form 44 on my computer and see if crashing and infinite load screen ends and Creation Kit has over 500 errors.  Simple let's test a Form 44.  Can someone please convert this mod to a Form 44???

Edited January 1, 2023 by PussieTepulus

[PussieTepulus]

Found another source of the crash.  

 

Fault bucket 1909820472490972777, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: ModOrganizer.exe
P2: 2.4.4.0
P3: 61c9e7c8
P4: usvfs_x64.dll
P5: 0.5.6.0
P6: 61c9e6d1
P7: c0000005
P8: 0000000000037f2c
P9: 
P10: 

 

Mod Organizer 2.   Let's test a Form 44.

[kurotatsu]

12 hours ago, Delzaron said:

yep, I never got the second line. It's the same for the scene in neophytes of dibella, or in Dark arena for the arena speech.

 

Sounds like Fuz-Ro-Doh is being culprit here. I've heard some stories about various versions of it being problematic, try different versions of it?

[Delzaron]

2 hours ago, kurotatsu said:

 

Sounds like Fuz-Ro-Doh is being culprit here. I've heard some stories about various versions of it being problematic, try different versions of it?

indeed, not the good version...

[Delzaron]

SSE reintalled, with a older version of Fuz ro doh... and scenes works now ! (tested with simple slavery and dark arena)

Now it's SOS who causes problems...

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

SSE reintalled, with a older version of Fuz ro doh... and scenes works now !

In hindsight, I should have suggested looking at Fuz Ro D-oh for the scene problem.  It would've saved you some time & trouble.  It's the usual suspect when the auction doesn't seem to work.  Thank you for reporting your success.  It's a good reminder for everyone to check the Fuz Ro D-oh version when conversation disappears.

[Delzaron]

8 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

In hindsight, I should have suggested looking at Fuz Ro D-oh for the scene problem.  It would've saved you some time & trouble.  It's the usual suspect when the auction doesn't seem to work.  Thank you for reporting your success.  It's a good reminder for everyone to check the Fuz Ro D-oh version when conversation disappears.

 

Yep.

 

By the way, when it will be ready, it is possible to integrate Ravenous mod as a simple slavery outcome ?

[Hex Bolt]

23 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

By the way, when it will be ready, it is possible to integrate Ravenous mod as a simple slavery outcome ?

Sure, when it's ready, let me know how you want Simple Slavery to start it (such as starting a quest or sending a mod event) and I'll make an update.

[Seeker999]

On 12/31/2022 at 12:41 PM, PussieTepulus said:

Mine works great except when it comes to Form 43 mods instead of Form 44 for SE.  They worked on my older computer which burned out.  Miss my older computer.  6 new installs SOS Shop, Simple Slavery, and Slavers Spellbook all Form 43 crash.  Everything else no crash and no infinite load screens.  All mods are compatible and worked on my older computer.

Pussie, after reviewing your posts, I think you are on the wrong forum. You really should post a topic in technical support, if you haven't already, with all the details from your posts combined and what mods you have a problem with. Be specific and don't just say 'Form 43 mods'. You can ask for Form 44 versions of those mods if you think it will help, but I think even if they work they will be a stopgap until your underlying issue is resolved.

Make sure to include your computer information, game version number, and a list of all the mods you are using and their version number. (Preferably behind a spoiler).

Include all the steps you've taken to try and resolve the problem yourself.

 

Why should you do this?

1. I am assuming you have followed the logical steps of posting on your computer support forums and Bethesda's support forum. Posting a topic on this site's technical forum will provide you with a wider audience of technically savvy people who might be able to help you or at least give you some ideas that you've not gotten here.
2. Here, you're the only person with the issue. The mod author has stated they have a similar system and no problems.
3. Very important, since you began posting: THE MOD AUTHOR HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THEY USE LE, NOT SE/AE. They can't give you what you want.
4. Keep following up with Adler Lake (which I assume you're doing anyway). I read that article and it mentioned 3 games they were still having problems with - and none of them are Elder Scrolls games. Doesn't mean there's not a problem, just it wasn't specifically mentioned in the article. At least they seem to be working on the issue.

At this point, I can't help feeling this is your best option. Good luck!

[PussieTepulus]

I did e-mail Bethesda and Intel.  I did every possible troubleshooting.  This mod did in fact work with my older computer, but not with my new Adler i9.  This was the first I encountered errors with Saving on Creation Kit.  So, in order to avoid Adler i9 using my spouse computer and hoping for best.  It does show less errors, nothing catastrophic like Adler i9.

[PussieTepulus]

Fixed the problem.  Adler i9 is the problem, but the biggest problem was Creation Kit.  Instead of everyone saying it cannot happen.  Be more useful.  Troubleshoot.  This is what was needed and knew nothing of this mod to Creation Kit.  SSE Creation Kit Fixes Update at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)  The best way to get everything including ESM to Form 44.  Yet all you which say it is impossible well is possible and should refer people to this mod for Creation Kit.  Steam Creation Kit is infested with DRM.

[CaptainJ03]

7 hours ago, PussieTepulus said:

Instead of everyone saying it cannot happen.  Be more useful. 

This is a bloody mod page, not some hightech computer helpdesk. HexBolt is developing his mods on LE and until now it just worked on SE.

Should be easy to put a warning at "SE compatible?" - NO

[Hex Bolt]

31 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

HexBolt is developing his mods on LE and until now it just worked on SE.

You might have inadvertently confused how this mod is built with other mods that I maintain.  I develop Simple Slavery on LE, but it is then converted for SE by Herowynne, so there are separate LE and SE downloads.  Except for one doomsayer, the mod has worked well for SE players.  (Although people do sometimes have problems, notably with getting the right Fuz Ro-D-oh version, those problems are not related to ability to use the SE version of the mod on Skyrim SE.)

[Herowynne]

8 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I develop Simple Slavery on LE, but it is then converted for SE by Herowynne, so there are separate LE and SE downloads.  Except for one doomsayer, the mod has worked well for SE players.

I do not have an Alder Lake i9 system, so I have not tested this mod’s SE conversion on that type of CPU.

 

When I do the conversion to SE, I leave the form type as form 43, because this mod does not have any features that would require form 44.

 

Furthermore, it seems unlikely that the form 43 versus form 44 difference would have any impact when running on Alder Lake i9 instead of other CPUs.