Nepro Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Are temporal spawnable actors any good for slaves? Will they disappear after certain amount of time? I enslaved God Hater from Skingrad. The problem is that I want to sell her to Gingoldron from Silvewater house. Gingoldron accepts the offer. However the message in upper left corner says "Gingodron cannot trade". What does that mean?
Sarnaath Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Are temporal spawnable actors any good for slaves? Will they disappear after certain amount of time? I enslaved God Hater from Skingrad. The problem is that I want to sell her to Gingoldron from Silvewater house. Gingoldron accepts the offer. However the message in upper left corner says "Gingodron cannot trade". What does that mean? The advice given in the Bravil Underground thread is that enslaving respawning NPCs can lead to game bloat if you do it a lot. I looked in CS, and neither Else God Hater or Gilgondorin are set to respawn. In LoversSlaveTrade, that message pops up if the owner doesn't meet certain checks. If the slave fails the same checks you get a different message. Try a different buyer. If that doesn't work maybe it's because Else God Hater shouldn't be enslaved. Apparently she's a Mythic Dawn sleeper agent (see http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Else_God-Hater). I don't know if that has anything to do anything.
gregathit Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 It may also be that Gilgondorin does not have enough cash to buy your slave. Did you look at how much cash he has?
Nepro Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Selling slaves option kicks in but incorrectly. I sold Else God Hater to a guy who in green suit who often hangs out at Silverwater House. He bought Else God Hater. I saw message "Else God Hater sold. How it is outrageous". However I didn't received any gold and Else was still my player's slave. 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gregathit Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 What version of slave trader are you running? Version 91beta from this threads OP? Does Else still follow you now that she has been sold? Is she still listed in your slaver's book? Now if you talk to her you will still see the orders menu and she will still respond like she is your slave, only because she still "is" a slave and not necessarily yours.
Nepro Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 What version of slave trader are you running? This: Link to slave trader v91beta: http://www.mediafire.com/?zsl3d4uly9q7w78 This version is the latest "stable" and "working" English translated version. Version 91beta from this threads OP? Yes. Does Else still follow you now that she has been sold? Yes she follows me and I get no gold when I sell her. Is she still listed in your slaver's book? She isn't anywhere to be found in the book...
Sarnaath Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Selling slaves option kicks in but incorrectly. I sold Else God Hater to a guy who in green suit who often hangs out at Silverwater House. He bought Else God Hater. I saw message "Else God Hater sold. How it is outrageous". However I didn't received any gold and Else was still my player's slave. That's the other error message I mentioned. In v91 from this thread's OP, you get: MessageEX"%n is sold, how it is outrageous!!"rSlave then the script returns and the transaction does not complete. In the new LoversSlaveTrade version, the message is: MessageEX"%n Azura forbid that price!!"rSlave with the same result. I don't know how useful it would be to post script code, but if you are interested these messages occur in the xLoversSTTradeSlave script. If you successfully sell a slave, you should get: "Slave transaction No.XX: (Buyer), (slave)" where No.XX is the number in the slave transaction book, and the owner and slave are listed. Anyways, as far as I can tell, that message, despite what it says, indicates a failed sales transaction.
Nepro Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Selling slaves option kicks in but incorrectly. I sold Else God Hater to a guy who in green suit who often hangs out at Silverwater House. He bought Else God Hater. I saw message "Else God Hater sold. How it is outrageous". However I didn't received any gold and Else was still my player's slave. That's the other error message I mentioned. In v91 from this thread's OP' date=' you get: MessageEX"%n is sold, how it is outrageous!!"rSlave then the script returns and the transaction does not complete. In the new LoversSlaveTrade version, the message is: MessageEX"%n Azura forbid that price!!"rSlave with the same result. I don't know how useful it would be to post script code, but if you are interested these messages occur in the xLoversSTTradeSlave script. If you successfully sell a slave, you should get: "Slave transaction No.XX: (Buyer), (slave)" where No.XX is the number in the slave transaction book, and the owner and slave are listed. Anyways, as far as I can tell, that message, despite what it says, indicates a failed sales transaction. [/quote'] Thanks for clarification. What NPC most likely will buy God Hater? I talked to almost everybody in Bravil and no one wants her (bugged failed transaction that you were talking about).
Sarnaath Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 I don't know. In my own game just now I was able to train her, break her, and sell her to Gilgondorin, much to my surprise. I use the newer, beta version, of LoversSlaveTrader. The checks I mentioned for this message are the same though (haslowlevelprocessing == 0 or ispersistent == 0). In my game my character is level 2 or 3 and hasn't done any part of the main quest except maybe talk to Jauffre. I have gotten those error messages before on other NPCs though. Usually for me it's on NPCs added by Better Cities that don't have a persuade icon. I end up just releasing them because I can't do anything else with them. Usually I cannot even continuously train them. Sorry, I don't have a better suggestion, I've never tried to change things with an NPC that gave me trouble like this. Maybe it is a load order issue. Have you been able to train and sell other NPCs unrelated to Bravil Underground quests?
Nepro Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 No this is my first one to be trained. God Hater didn't submit fully maybe this is why my PC can't sell God Hater? Thanks for suggestion. My suggestion is to put this screen as teaser in the first post.
Sarnaath Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 I'd try breaking her - you'll get more gold when you sell her too. Then try other NPCs to see if it's just her or some other conflict. The new LoversSlaveTrader has an ini than allows you increase the chance of breaking a slave, making training quicker. Just FYI. I'm not sure if you need a clean save or not, check the thread.
gregathit Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 If you upgrade from version 91beta to version 1.0beta you will need to release all slaves, use the built in 'run this before uninstalling' feature and then make a clean save. Or you can just start a new game. Edit: I will look at the version 1.0 beta code but I agree with Sarnaath that what it is trying to say is the transaction has failed.
Nepro Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Btw can you get in trouble by offering to sell slaves to the wrong person like a guard for example? I only noticed that enslaving the person gives bounty and infamy if there's a witness.
Sarnaath Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 I've never tried selling a slave to a guard since guards respawn. I don't really know if there are bad consequences, I tend to sell slaves to unsavory characters like NPCs in Bravil Underground. That would be interesting to know.
gregathit Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 I am not certain. Give it a shot and see. If I remember right there is either a rejection by the guard or a bounty. Not sure which. If you end up going to prison over the deal, watch out for your corn hole.....
Sparlimb Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Slave options aren't available when talking to generic guards - unable to sample, rent or sell to guards even with slave in tow (I've tried several times). My guess would be the despawn attribute of the regular, generic guards - unsure, really. There are several quest guards that will play though (Burd in Bruma is one, the corrupt Capt in Cheyd is another). What can be done with regular guards is to haul the slave off to barracks and have her "sell flowers". That's where you'll find the Bruma Countess in my lil' world, hehe!
gregathit Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Rather than a spawning issue I am betting that there is a block built into the code that prevents you from selling to most guards. Remember that slavery is illegal in the Empire at the current moment so talking "just any old guard" would be a good way to go straight to prison.
Nepro Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I broke Else but I still can't sell God Hater. I get message "Else God Hater Azura forbid that price" or "NPC X cannot trade". I tried to go to Bravil Underground City but even there no one wants to buy her lol.
gregathit Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 She is a vanilla NPC that does have a scripted quest (small one) so that is probably why she is blocked.
Mehsr Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Hey I'm having a bit of the problem with slave trade, whenever I try to open one of my slaves' bags the game freezes, does anyone know what could be causing this? Does the number of slaves I have with me influence the problem? EDIT: Okay so I tried to open the bags of my other slaves, and they're just fine but the problem I have is with Ranaline the mythic dawn girl from Bravil. I used to be able to open her bag fine but after an ambush by some mercs she suited up in her armor and now every time I try to access her bags the game freezes up, anyone know how I can get her unarmored?
Sparlimb Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Mehsr - telling her to "Relax" should get her to remove the armor, hopefully that'll work. Most of my armored slaves switch to casual clothes when told to relax. But, it could be something similar to what Gregathit mentioned about Else and having the Mythic Dawn script.
Mehsr Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Okay I'll try that, thanks. EDIT: Yeah that worked, thanks. =)
DocClox Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Just wait for the spell to wear off. Opening inventories on NPCs with bound armour is a sure-fire lock-up, apparently. Training Cattle used to get the same problem.
fejeena Posted November 28, 2012 Posted November 28, 2012 Nepro: Else God-Hater;I enslave her in the Skingrad tavern,train her in the tavern and sell her to Graklak gro Buglump(Vanilla NPC) in the tavern.He use the slave (sex).All fine no bugs no "cannot trade" messages.
gregathit Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 OP updated with version 1.0 Final edition for Lovers Slave Trader. NOTE: If upgrading from version 91beta you will need to start a new game or dismiss your slaves via the in game option and make a clean save prior to upgrading to v1.0.
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