The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[fsnsaber]

Hi, enjoying this mod so much rn,

but facing small problem atm, so i'd like to ask some info if it's okay.

 

Could you tell me what the assigned stage value would be if i were to use 'setstage' console command for vanikseth quest start and rudhiir meeting at Bee and barb?

For my game, I noticed NPC Rudhirr from Benjin Quest and Vanikseth for Culmination at windhelm winterhold doesn't spawn.

 

I'm 99% certain it's because Changed city landscape somehow blocked npc from spawning and they are in their npc holding cell.

(and yes, they were at NPC holding cells when I moved to em XD)

 

So I used 'save npclist 1' and printed txt file to get NPC's reference id to moveto player after Prid (ref id)

 

However Rudhirr quest doesn't progress from waiting for him at Bee and Barb inn, and Vanikseth doesn't get a dialogue at all.

 

I would like to try set stage for quest progress after moving npcs out of their holding cell to see if it'd properly register after quest has progressed.

Edited January 16, 2024 by fsnsaber
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[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, fsnsaber said:

Hi, enjoying this mod so much rn,

but facing small problem atm, so i'd like to ask some info if it's okay.

 

Could you tell me what the assigned stage value would be if i were to use 'setstage' console command for vanikseth quest start and rudhiir meeting at Bee and barb?

For my game, I noticed NPC Rudhirr from Benjin Quest and Vanikseth for Culmination at windhelm doesn't spawn.

 

I'm 99% certain it's because Changed city landscape somehow blocked npc from spawning and they are in their npc holding cell.

(and yes, they were at NPC holding cells when I moved to em XD)

 

So I used 'save npclist 1' and printed txt file to get NPC's reference id to moveto player after Prid (ref id)

 

However Rudhirr quest doesn't progress from waiting for him at Bee and Barb inn, and Vanikseth doesn't get a dialogue at all.

 

I would like to try set stage for quest progress after moving npcs out of their holding cell to see if it'd properly register after quest has progressed.

 

What stages are those quests on right now? The quest IDs are TAPQBenjen01 and TAPQWinterholdExtra.

[fsnsaber]

both stages are waiting at the inn.
Waiting in Bee and Barb for Rudhiir to appear and Vanikseth not existing in Frozen Hearth Inn.

I have pretty good reason to believe Vanikseth might be Doctor strange dimension falling through Frozen Hearth inn at the moment.

On fresh Start, I console commanded myself to Benjin and started the quest and console jumpd to Rudhiir and found him in essential npc bleedout.

 

It's definitely not TAP's bug so no need for bug fix.

 

I'm using Nolvus Modpack since i didn't want to reinstall all the mods so anything from there could be causing the conflict but I think i have an idea.

Ty for quick response!

 

[ruddycray]

27 minutes ago, fsnsaber said:

both stages are waiting at the inn.
Waiting in Bee and Barb for Rudhiir to appear and Vanikseth not existing in Frozen Hearth Inn.

I have pretty good reason to believe Vanikseth might be Doctor strange dimension falling through Frozen Hearth inn at the moment.

On fresh Start, I console commanded myself to Benjin and started the quest and console jumpd to Rudhiir and found him in essential npc bleedout.

 

It's definitely not TAP's bug so no need for bug fix.

 

I'm using Nolvus Modpack since i didn't want to reinstall all the mods so anything from there could be causing the conflict but I think i have an idea.

Ty for quick response!

 

 

What are the stage numbers? Use the getstage console command.

 

Even if something is interfering with their AI packages the dialogue should still work.

[metalsir]

Hi.
I'm currently playing a script-heavy pack, including this GORGEOUS mod, having a lot of roleplaying fun.
Ran into a problem with a quest Where spirits have sex. When visiting Diora's house and speaking to the argonian wife, Initus appeares, walks to his wife and just stands here (menacingly), not initiating a dialogue. I might have a problem with Fuz-ro-Daah, but can I have a quest id for the setstage command or some suggestions how to fix it?

[ruddycray]

6 hours ago, metalsir said:

Hi.
I'm currently playing a script-heavy pack, including this GORGEOUS mod, having a lot of roleplaying fun.
Ran into a problem with a quest Where spirits have sex. When visiting Diora's house and speaking to the argonian wife, Initus appeares, walks to his wife and just stands here (menacingly), not initiating a dialogue. I might have a problem with Fuz-ro-Daah, but can I have a quest id for the setstage command or some suggestions how to fix it?

 

He is supposed to talk to you, but I think it can sometimes get hung up with the player not following him. Eventually I'm probably going to remove that AI-controlled player stuff. I'm really not sure why I ever thought that was a good idea to begin with.

 

You can try reloading a save and standing in a different place when you start talking to Numeeva. Otherwise the quest ID should be TAPQMorthalGhosts.

[xtrange988]

13 hours ago, metalsir said:

Hi.
I'm currently playing a script-heavy pack, including this GORGEOUS mod, having a lot of roleplaying fun.
Ran into a problem with a quest Where spirits have sex. When visiting Diora's house and speaking to the argonian wife, Initus appeares, walks to his wife and just stands here (menacingly), not initiating a dialogue. I might have a problem with Fuz-ro-Daah, but can I have a quest id for the setstage command or some suggestions how to fix it?

 

In my game after I speak to his wife the game expects a scene to start but Initus never appears and my character stays frozen. There are two ways to make the scene progress and avoid the scene completely.

1. There's a locked strongbox with evidence of Initus past. Deliver it to the steward. 

2. Kill the argonian and Initus will attack you outside the house, kill him and go all the way back to Morthal.

 

[ruddycray]

10 hours ago, xtrange988 said:

 

In my game after I speak to his wife the game expects a scene to start but Initus never appears and my character stays frozen. There are two ways to make the scene progress and avoid the scene completely.

1. There's a locked strongbox with evidence of Initus past. Deliver it to the steward. 

2. Kill the argonian and Initus will attack you outside the house, kill him and go all the way back to Morthal.

 

 

 

Are you saying Intius just hangs out outside the house for you and doesn't go in when he's supposed to?

 

[xtrange988]

10 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

 

Are you saying Intius just hangs out outside the house for you and doesn't go in when he's supposed to?

 

 

He doesn't enter the house and my character stays in place waiting for the scene to happen, forever. Maybe he was outside but I didn't use enableplayercontrol, just picked up the letter and went back to Morthal.

[metalsir]

On 1/19/2024 at 9:12 PM, ruddycray said:

 

He is supposed to talk to you, but I think it can sometimes get hung up with the player not following him. Eventually I'm probably going to remove that AI-controlled player stuff. I'm really not sure why I ever thought that was a good idea to begin with.

 

You can try reloading a save and standing in a different place when you start talking to Numeeva. Otherwise the quest ID should be TAPQMorthalGhosts.

I solved this issue, Fuz-ro-daah and USSEP were causing problems. Some of my mods was interfering with them, had to reinstall an older patch and to change the load order. And I am using and outdated version of SSE because of some mods compatibility issues, in case someone is having the same problem - check your USSEP and Fuz-ro-daah versions, especially USSEP. There is only one file on Nexus, suitable only for the latest SSE, thanks Arthmoor.

[rtzentmyer]

This is probably a stupid/obvious question, but where the hell do I find the Axe of Whiterun? I'm in the brothel after using sex to get back inside & I can't find the Axe for the life of me.

 

I'm using The Ancient Profession Interiors-- is that mod incompatible with the One Bad Apple questline?

[killer905]

2 hours ago, rtzentmyer said:

This is probably a stupid/obvious question, but where the hell do I find the Axe of Whiterun? I'm in the brothel after using sex to get back inside & I can't find the Axe for the life of me.

 

I'm using The Ancient Profession Interiors-- is that mod incompatible with the One Bad Apple questline?

You won't find Axe in the brothel itself. In the course of the task, you learn that someone else is behind it. The courier will bring you a letter. I don't remember exactly, but in the MCM Menu you can check the Spoilers option and it will give you more information.

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, rtzentmyer said:

This is probably a stupid/obvious question, but where the hell do I find the Axe of Whiterun? I'm in the brothel after using sex to get back inside & I can't find the Axe for the life of me.

 

I'm using The Ancient Profession Interiors-- is that mod incompatible with the One Bad Apple questline?

 

The axe should be on Audhild's bed after you receive the letter telling you to look for it in the brothel. As far as I know, the Interiors mod does not break this, or at least it didn't at the time. I tested that myself when I was adding the quest.

[ekw070]

I've been unsuccessful in trying to convince Corvus to stop masturbating at the shrine of Dibella near Markarth.  When I approach he's doing so, as he's supposed to.  I can't talk to him while hes' "busy" but when he's done I talk to him about it.  I've gptten to the point of saying that he should stop ejaculating on the shrine.  It gives 4 options and I pick the one about the best way to do that is through the body of a priestess.  He says he'll consider it if he sees one.  I've told Mother Hamal about this and she says I should offer myself to him.  The dialogue options don't change upon returning to him, and the "through a priestess" line doesn't give different results.  Is there a specific dialogue path that I need to take, from the beginning, for him to recognize this in the Skyrim LE version?  I know my character needs to have sex with him but i don't know why offering him the "through a priestess" dialogue option doesn't result in sex.  I'm guessing that I'm missing something I'm supposed to do.  I've also asked one of the temple priestesses, can't remember her exact name but it's similar to the word lacivious.  She said to offer myself as well.   I'm at a loss as to how.

 

My character has all the prostitution licenses except Riften.  Hasn't asked for the Riften one or talked to Benjen Black-Briar  She got the one in Dawnstar by passing the speech check.  Bathing in Skyrim using Lavender soap, the Dibella Shrine in Lakeview's basement, lipstick, eyeshadow, fingernail, and toenail polish from YPS, and a fortify speech potion.  She got Solitude's by finding the 4 women, rather than hiring from the brothel.  She has not joined Dibella's garden.  She has done freelance prostitution in the warmer holds, except the Rift.  SLEN and YPS add Dibella quests, according to their MCM, but I haven't done them.   Does either SLEN or YPS conflict with TAP?

[Papitas]

Hi.

I've come again with praises and suggestions.

 

I've played with the succubus system and, as usual, I like it both in concept and execution.

As far as I know, you are the only one that has taken into account the fact that succubi assault you while you sleep.

 

Anyway... do you think it would be possible to add a slider to lower the requirements to advance in succubus levels?

It just takes too long to see a succubus in full power. That may be a good thing for a hardcore experience, but if you want to play more casual it's just too much.

 

Here's my reasoning:

On a heavily modded game you always run into the saving on crash bug and it's simply sometimes unavoidable; no matter which fixes you try.

 

Getting the succubus form is already gotten at around 15 days of gameplay, given you go and try to get it from day 1.

When I get to that point I have already finished at least two faction quests... and I sleep at least 10 hours a day because I'm using a Pumping Iron-like mod I made.

 

The most days I have ever been able to play were around 120, and I managed to get to that only once in 10 years.

To see a succubus in full power at the default rate I would need to absorb at least 3 people a day, which is hard/boring (too much sex) because the perks that let you absorb many people at once are at too high levels.

 

I cheated and modified the script to give me 5 souls for a single person and 3 for each person in group sex.

That works quite well for a filthy casual like me who only wants to have a succubus form as an alternate way to kill people in this game in creative ways.

[ruddycray]

16 hours ago, ekw070 said:

I've been unsuccessful in trying to convince Corvus to stop masturbating at the shrine of Dibella near Markarth.  When I approach he's doing so, as he's supposed to.  I can't talk to him while hes' "busy" but when he's done I talk to him about it.  I've gptten to the point of saying that he should stop ejaculating on the shrine.  It gives 4 options and I pick the one about the best way to do that is through the body of a priestess.  He says he'll consider it if he sees one.  I've told Mother Hamal about this and she says I should offer myself to him.  The dialogue options don't change upon returning to him, and the "through a priestess" line doesn't give different results.  Is there a specific dialogue path that I need to take, from the beginning, for him to recognize this in the Skyrim LE version?  I know my character needs to have sex with him but i don't know why offering him the "through a priestess" dialogue option doesn't result in sex.  I'm guessing that I'm missing something I'm supposed to do.  I've also asked one of the temple priestesses, can't remember her exact name but it's similar to the word lacivious.  She said to offer myself as well.   I'm at a loss as to how.

 

My character has all the prostitution licenses except Riften.  Hasn't asked for the Riften one or talked to Benjen Black-Briar  She got the one in Dawnstar by passing the speech check.  Bathing in Skyrim using Lavender soap, the Dibella Shrine in Lakeview's basement, lipstick, eyeshadow, fingernail, and toenail polish from YPS, and a fortify speech potion.  She got Solitude's by finding the 4 women, rather than hiring from the brothel.  She has not joined Dibella's garden.  She has done freelance prostitution in the warmer holds, except the Rift.  SLEN and YPS add Dibella quests, according to their MCM, but I haven't done them.   Does either SLEN or YPS conflict with TAP?

 

I am unaware of any conflicts, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. Can you tell me what stage it says you're on if you use the console and enter "getstage tapqtemple03"?

[ruddycray]

4 hours ago, Papitas said:

Hi.

I've come again with praises and suggestions.

 

I've played with the succubus system and, as usual, I like it both in concept and execution.

As far as I know, you are the only one that has taken into account the fact that succubi assault you while you sleep.

 

Anyway... do you think it would be possible to add a slider to lower the requirements to advance in succubus levels?

It just takes too long to see a succubus in full power. That may be a good thing for a hardcore experience, but if you want to play more casual it's just too much.

 

Here's my reasoning:

On a heavily modded game you always run into the saving on crash bug and it's simply sometimes unavoidable; no matter which fixes you try.

 

Getting the succubus form is already gotten at around 15 days of gameplay, given you go and try to get it from day 1.

When I get to that point I have already finished at least two faction quests... and I sleep at least 10 hours a day because I'm using a Pumping Iron-like mod I made.

 

The most days I have ever been able to play were around 120, and I managed to get to that only once in 10 years.

To see a succubus in full power at the default rate I would need to absorb at least 3 people a day, which is hard/boring (too much sex) because the perks that let you absorb many people at once are at too high levels.

 

I cheated and modified the script to give me 5 souls for a single person and 3 for each person in group sex.

That works quite well for a filthy casual like me who only wants to have a succubus form as an alternate way to kill people in this game in creative ways.

 

I'm willing to tweak things in the succubus system. The next version will also include an MCM option to become a succubus immediately.

 

I was definitely looking at the progression as a thing that lasts you through an entire long playthrough, and I've already reduced it once. It's probably still aiming a little high. I also included the option for separate timers for succubus sex, because sometimes the scenes can be too much if you're feeding a lot.

[ekw070]

21 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I am unaware of any conflicts, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. Can you tell me what stage it says you're on if you use the console and enter "getstage tapqtemple03"?

 

I don't know.  I ultimately used console command TAPQTemple03 500 to advance the quest.

[ruddycray]

29 minutes ago, ekw070 said:

 

I don't know.  I ultimately used console command TAPQTemple03 500 to advance the quest.

 

The command I gave you would tell you what stage you were on.

[ekw070]

18 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

The command I gave you would tell you what stage you were on.

 

Okay.  I went back to an earlier save, where it said "convince Corvus to stop masturbating"  the results in console were GetStage >> 300.00

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, ekw070 said:

 

Okay.  I went back to an earlier save, where it said "convince Corvus to stop masturbating"  the results in console were GetStage >> 300.00

 

Were you talking to him at the shrine or at the inn? Or anywhere else away from the shrine?

 

Also do you have Divine Elegance installed or any other mod that modifies the area near the shrine?

[ekw070]

5 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

Were you talking to him at the shrine or at the inn? Or anywhere else away from the shrine?

 

Also do you have Divine Elegance installed or any other mod that modifies the area near the shrine?

 

The Shrine only.  Yes I have divine Elegance.

[ruddycray]

4 minutes ago, ekw070 said:

 

The Shrine only.  Yes I have divine Elegance.

 

Thanks. The problem is an incompatibility with Divine Elegance. I thought I had fixed that in Release 15, but now that I look at it again I missed something. I will have to update the conditions on the dialogue.

 

In the meantime, setting the stage in the console as you have done is probably the best workaround. I think you want to set stage to 400, not 500. Stage 500 means you attacked him.

[ekw070]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

Thanks. The problem is an incompatibility with Divine Elegance. I thought I had fixed that in Release 15, but now that I look at it again I missed something. I will have to update the conditions on the dialogue.

 

In the meantime, setting the stage in the console as you have done is probably the best workaround. I think you want to set stage to 400, not 500. Stage 500 means you attacked him.

 

Thank you.  BTW, TAP is a good mod, thanks for making it.

[NicoleDragoness]

On 3/6/2023 at 4:05 AM, ruddycray said:

Updated for release 15. This list contains spoilers.

Played till the end of "Who sows discord" (with the ported LE version), a "good" end, and I read the message about the next versions.

- Suggestion\Idea:

There is an old mod called "Take Care Of Business Redux" in which the Player, after she/he joined the Thieves Guild and became her/his new Master, can "evict" Maven to be a "owner" of the Thieves and a threat for many. In fact, the Player will force that b**ch to pay a consistent "tax" to the Guild.

I think the "mechanic" of this old mod could be very interesting for a following story about DG and her.

What do you think?