The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, Papitas said:

What a wonderful mod this is.

I was expecting only mechanics and then I started finding quests all over the world. And those quests are well thought, with many action paths and fun and complex (I think the quests here are way better than vanilla ones xD).

 

I was genuinely exploring the game once again, as if I had never played it (after maybe 8000 hours since 2014) until I got to the end of the Dibella's Temple questline and it suddenly stopped.

Then I remembered this mod is still a work in progress.

 

I'm really looking forward to updates to this mod. This may be the only mod I'm truly eager to see be updated.

 

Anyway, I have some a question about it and a suggestion.

 

At the end of the Dibella questline I got a marker saying that I should speak to Sassa to get work, but no dialogue about it is offered. Is it normal?

I've already done the bard job from her, by the way.

 

Are you planning to do radiant quests from her?

Watching how great you are at designing quests, I think this would be the first time I would see someone making good use of the radiant system (and that includes Bethesda themselves).

 

Also, a personal suggestion.

I don't know how many people has told you about it, but I've quite enjoyed the quick quests, like the Riverwood and Dragon's Bridge inns. Those are the quests that make me want to explore the world once again.

If you have more ideas on how to do those kind of quests, it would be awesome to see them.

 

Anyway, thanks for this mod.

I know I have showered many praises over it, but this is the first time in almost 10 years of playing this game that I've ever praise a mod like this.

 

Thank you very much! It is always very nice to hear that someone enjoys the mod so much.

 

To answer your questions, there are no more jobs to get from Sassa right now. I plan to start adding some things to tell you when you've reached the end of a quest line that's unfinished as I do more releases, like I did for the Dibella's Garden quests in release 15.

 

I plan to add some additional jobs that may be a little random where they send you. As for the radiant system, I may make some use of it, although I am a little wary of it. Something I really don't like with sex mods that try to use radiant systems is that they can create weird situations where you can have sex with someone, and then later they act like they don't even know who you are. I often don't even like fully scripted quests that have you doing too much sex stuff with vanilla NPCs for the same reason. So, if I do make radiant things, I will probably be careful about who it can select, or I will just have it select my own NPCs.

 

I would love to do more side quest things with some of the characters when I get some time. I like giving characters a little more story. Of course, it depends on me feeling like I have an idea worth exploring and like I'm not just repeating something I've already done.

[KanaC]

I'm using the LE port of this mod and it's great! I've only had two crashes, but my modlist is massive so it could've been from anything. I enjoy the quests, and it's nice to have a mod with lots of dialogue that isn't filled with grammatical errors or IRL slang making it look out of place in TES.

 

I apologise if this has been answered already, I've only skimmed through the topic - will you be adding dialogue options for choosing what type of acts are performed when selling your services? I would love to have the option to only give a blowjob (maybe for half the price?), or start off with a blowjob as a warm-up and then transition into vaginal sex. That's the only request I have for this mod because everything else so far is perfect and right up my alley. At the moment I'm using SexLab Tools to choose the animation I want after a client has paid, but unfortunately if your mod picks the 'vaginal' tag for the animation, then I can't choose any animations outside of that category.

 

Either way, thank you so much for the work you put into this mod - it has more depth than I thought it would and it's been a very pleasant surprise. I'm going to make sure to install it for my SE playthrough in the future.

Much love.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, KanaC said:

I'm using the LE port of this mod and it's great! I've only had two crashes, but my modlist is massive so it could've been from anything. I enjoy the quests, and it's nice to have a mod with lots of dialogue that isn't filled with grammatical errors or IRL slang making it look out of place in TES.

 

I apologise if this has been answered already, I've only skimmed through the topic - will you be adding dialogue options for choosing what type of acts are performed when selling your services? I would love to have the option to only give a blowjob (maybe for half the price?), or start off with a blowjob as a warm-up and then transition into vaginal sex. That's the only request I have for this mod because everything else so far is perfect and right up my alley. At the moment I'm using SexLab Tools to choose the animation I want after a client has paid, but unfortunately if your mod picks the 'vaginal' tag for the animation, then I can't choose any animations outside of that category.

 

Either way, thank you so much for the work you put into this mod - it has more depth than I thought it would and it's been a very pleasant surprise. I'm going to make sure to install it for my SE playthrough in the future.

Much love.

It would be useful to know in which places you had CTD.

 

As for the animation use during the sex scene Shift+H it pops up a small menu and there you have a choice of tag "as far as I remember" type oral or blowjob

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, KanaC said:

I'm using the LE port of this mod and it's great! I've only had two crashes, but my modlist is massive so it could've been from anything. I enjoy the quests, and it's nice to have a mod with lots of dialogue that isn't filled with grammatical errors or IRL slang making it look out of place in TES.

 

I apologise if this has been answered already, I've only skimmed through the topic - will you be adding dialogue options for choosing what type of acts are performed when selling your services? I would love to have the option to only give a blowjob (maybe for half the price?), or start off with a blowjob as a warm-up and then transition into vaginal sex. That's the only request I have for this mod because everything else so far is perfect and right up my alley. At the moment I'm using SexLab Tools to choose the animation I want after a client has paid, but unfortunately if your mod picks the 'vaginal' tag for the animation, then I can't choose any animations outside of that category.

 

Either way, thank you so much for the work you put into this mod - it has more depth than I thought it would and it's been a very pleasant surprise. I'm going to make sure to install it for my SE playthrough in the future.

Much love.

 

I'm glad you're enjoying the mod!

 

I do have it on my list to allow selecting the type of acts you perform. I don't know when I'll get around to it for sure.

[xtrange988]

7 hours ago, KanaC said:

I'm using the LE port of this mod and it's great! I've only had two crashes, but my modlist is massive so it could've been from anything. I enjoy the quests, and it's nice to have a mod with lots of dialogue that isn't filled with grammatical errors or IRL slang making it look out of place in TES.

 

I apologise if this has been answered already, I've only skimmed through the topic - will you be adding dialogue options for choosing what type of acts are performed when selling your services? I would love to have the option to only give a blowjob (maybe for half the price?), or start off with a blowjob as a warm-up and then transition into vaginal sex. That's the only request I have for this mod because everything else so far is perfect and right up my alley. At the moment I'm using SexLab Tools to choose the animation I want after a client has paid, but unfortunately if your mod picks the 'vaginal' tag for the animation, then I can't choose any animations outside of that category.

 

Either way, thank you so much for the work you put into this mod - it has more depth than I thought it would and it's been a very pleasant surprise. I'm going to make sure to install it for my SE playthrough in the future.

Much love.

 

 

There's a couple script replacers that worked for me. It's not exactly what you want and only modifies tags for jobs in brothels and inns, but will give you more variety.

 

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Edited December 18, 2023 by xtrange988

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, xtrange988 said:

 

 

There's a couple script replacers that worked for me. It's not exactly what you want and only modifies tags for jobs in brothels and inns, but will give you more variety.

 

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Those will need to be updated for Release 15. If you just replace the scripts with those older versions, they may break some of the changes from Release 15.

Edited December 19, 2023 by ruddycray

[moonhowler1972]

Loving the mod, it kicks ass over any other Skyrim prostitution mod that I've tried, and the succubus content is some seriously sweet icing on the whorecake. I do have to ask tho (and apologies if this has been asked before), do we get to run a sword through Benjen at some point in the future, and maybe take over operation of the BBBrothel? Maybe after Maven finds out he's been dealing with the opposition?

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, moonhowler1972 said:

Loving the mod, it kicks ass over any other Skyrim prostitution mod that I've tried, and the succubus content is some seriously sweet icing on the whorecake. I do have to ask tho (and apologies if this has been asked before), do we get to run a sword through Benjen at some point in the future, and maybe take over operation of the BBBrothel? Maybe after Maven finds out he's been dealing with the opposition?

 

Thank you for the compliments!

 

The Dibella's Garden quest line is not done yet, but when it is Dibella's Garden will take over the Black-Briar Brothel if you join their side. I don't think I'm planning to make killing Benjen part of that quest line. Even though it will involve both Maven and Benjen taking a loss, the Black-Briars will still be powerful, and Benjen is still her nephew. Her way of dealing with failure will probably be similar to the way she dealt with Sibbi. Of course, it's always possible that I will think of a more interesting fate for him that would still be within the limits of what I think Maven would allow to happen to a member of her family.

[Tops34]

On my current playthrough the quest One Bad Apple doesn't start. I almost earned 5000g. Is there a way to get it through the console?

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, Tops34 said:

On my current playthrough the quest One Bad Apple doesn't start. I almost earned 5000g. Is there a way to get it through the console?

 

It can be started by the console. The quest ID is TAPQDG01.

 

If it won't start even with the console then the quest is having trouble getting access to something it needs, and I'll probably need more information from you.

[Tops34]

The setstage command worked, thx

[Deadly Kitten]

So i'm having trouble with the "Who Sows Discord" quest. , I was stuck where no matter how many clients i serviced, no one approached me. I stopped working, went and did other things, came back, waited a few days ingame just in case, and tried working again. the game now freezes if I ask the innkeeper if i can work, then proposition a client and start sex. If i just proposition a client (and get reported to the guards by the inkeeper), the game doesn't freeze, but the quest doesn't seem to progress. Am i missing something?

 

Also, if i try to do the Blackbriar prostitution questline, the game never loads when entering the blackbriar brothel place. (music starts, game still runs, but the screen is completely black). I've not noticed this in other areas, it could be something bad with my save, but at some 50 hours in with  minimal crashing, i really don't want to muck with changing things. I have been avoiding removing mods and adding anything new except at the bottom of my load order, so while it isn't pretty i don't think i've broken anything?

[killer905]

54 minutes ago, Deadly Kitten said:

So i'm having trouble with the "Who Sows Discord" quest. , I was stuck where no matter how many clients i serviced, no one approached me. I stopped working, went and did other things, came back, waited a few days ingame just in case, and tried working again. the game now freezes if I ask the innkeeper if i can work, then proposition a client and start sex. If i just proposition a client (and get reported to the guards by the inkeeper), the game doesn't freeze, but the quest doesn't seem to progress. Am i missing something?

 

Also, if i try to do the Blackbriar prostitution questline, the game never loads when entering the blackbriar brothel place. (music starts, game still runs, but the screen is completely black). I've not noticed this in other areas, it could be something bad with my save, but at some 50 hours in with  minimal crashing, i really don't want to muck with changing things. I have been avoiding removing mods and adding anything new except at the bottom of my load order, so while it isn't pretty i don't think i've broken anything?

As far as I remember, after the second client will appear in the inn Khajiit (I do not remember his name) Sintaba probably the script does not activate this NPC correctly or as you wrote the quest.

 

As for the other problems I have no explanation or any clue how to check on a new game save.

Edited January 8, 2024 by killer905

[ruddycray]

7 hours ago, Deadly Kitten said:

So i'm having trouble with the "Who Sows Discord" quest. , I was stuck where no matter how many clients i serviced, no one approached me. I stopped working, went and did other things, came back, waited a few days ingame just in case, and tried working again. the game now freezes if I ask the innkeeper if i can work, then proposition a client and start sex. If i just proposition a client (and get reported to the guards by the inkeeper), the game doesn't freeze, but the quest doesn't seem to progress. Am i missing something?

 

Also, if i try to do the Blackbriar prostitution questline, the game never loads when entering the blackbriar brothel place. (music starts, game still runs, but the screen is completely black). I've not noticed this in other areas, it could be something bad with my save, but at some 50 hours in with  minimal crashing, i really don't want to muck with changing things. I have been avoiding removing mods and adding anything new except at the bottom of my load order, so while it isn't pretty i don't think i've broken anything?

 

@killer905 is correct that Sintaba should appear in the inn after 2 clients. The quest stage for TAPQDG02 should also be 400 at that point if you want to check that. I can't explain any of the freezing you're experiencing. I haven't had any other reports of that happening and can't think of anything from this mod that could cause that.

 

Similarly I have not had other reports of the Black-Briar Brothel not loading. I have had a few reports of permanent white screens with image space modifiers from players who have a specific mod pack, but never anything like that.

Edited January 8, 2024 by ruddycray

[Deadly Kitten]

57 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

@killer905 is correct that Sintaba should appear in the inn after 2 clients. The quest stage for TAPQDG02 should also be 400 at that point if you want to check that. I can't explain any of the freezing you're experiencing. I haven't had any other reports of that happening and can't think of anything from this mod that could cause that.

 

Similarly I have not had other reports of the Black-Briar Brothel not loading. I have had a few reports of permanent white screens with image space modifiers from players who have a specific mod pack, but never anything like that.

Non-zero chance something is odd with my setup then. 50-something hours in i'm not quite inclined to start over, but maybe it's worth it since i wanted to install a melee overhaul anyway and that most definitely would require a new game.

 

I know that YiffyAge/SkyFurry can cause crashes with very specific NPCs, but i've never experienced freezing with skyrim, only outright crashes. So it's really strange, and it's only the two events from this mod.

[ruddycray]

13 hours ago, Deadly Kitten said:

Non-zero chance something is odd with my setup then. 50-something hours in i'm not quite inclined to start over, but maybe it's worth it since i wanted to install a melee overhaul anyway and that most definitely would require a new game.

 

I know that YiffyAge/SkyFurry can cause crashes with very specific NPCs, but i've never experienced freezing with skyrim, only outright crashes. So it's really strange, and it's only the two events from this mod.

 

I never completely rule out that there could be something I need to fix, because sometimes new information will come to me that makes something I couldn't reproduce suddenly be reproducible for me. Sometimes that's someone identifying  the other mod that causes a problem when used together with TAP and sometimes it's the exact sequence of how someone did something.

 

All I can tell you right now is that neither of those things has ever happened for me, and I haven't gotten other reports of them. If you do by chance learn anything more that would be of use to me then please let me know.

[tulipo]

I want to ask if this is a bug or not. In the price of love quest, when phylawen start fucking the three dude. benjen will go back upstair and stay there. After that the threesome just looping forever on the last stage of the animation. 

 

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, tulipo said:

I want to ask if this is a bug or not. In the price of love quest, when phylawen start fucking the three dude. benjen will go back upstair and stay there. After that the threesome just looping forever on the last stage of the animation. 

 

 

I do have a bug where Benjen will stay upstairs if Audacity Killed the Cat is running. It's possible that could cause him to leave during that scene, if the scene doesn't force him to stay downstairs. That should not cause the animation to loop forever, though.

[tulipo]

12 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I do have a bug where Benjen will stay upstairs if Audacity Killed the Cat is running. It's possible that could cause him to leave during that scene, if the scene doesn't force him to stay downstairs. That should not cause the animation to loop forever, though.

But will the quest still progressing even if Benjen stay upstairs?

[ruddycray]

54 minutes ago, tulipo said:

But will the quest still progressing even if Benjen stay upstairs?

 

I'd have to look. I don't know if that's actually what's happening. It could be the scene stopping altogether. But in most cases if the SexLab stuff hangs it won't proceed. TAP will handle the animation ending normally or failing to start at all but not usually if something goes wrong mid animation.

 

Neither of those things is likely to cause the other, though. They may both have the same cause, or they could be coincidence but unrelated.

Edited January 11, 2024 by ruddycray

[Ikaros]

Hey, superb mod and everything! Keep up the good work, the Benjen and Dibella's Temple quests especially

 

Two comments :

 

1) Succubus content : I arrived in Winterhold and was looking up the succubus content before committing to it and... That's it? This whole new feeding system to manage in exchange for some temporary bonuses to health/magicka/armor? Am I missing something or is being a succubus more of a hassle (or RP thing) than anything?

 

EDIT : My mistake, I was only looking at the perks. There are a bunch of permanent bonuses linked to succubus levels : "There are 12 succubus levels, and each will provide a boost to stamina and magic regeneration, health, and damage resistance."

 

2) a general point about prostitution mods : I already run Submissive Lola, Public Whore and Dirty Deeds, and I would really like for some patch to allow all of that sex work to be condensed somehow. As things stand, playing with many mods like that creates an ungodly amount of very similar conversation topics with NPCs. I don't recommend it!

 

Anyway, great mod!

Edited January 11, 2024 by Ikaros

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Ikaros said:

1) Succubus content : I arrived in Winterhold and was looking up the succubus content before committing to it and... That's it? This whole new feeding system to manage in exchange for some temporary bonuses to health/magicka/armor? Am I missing something or is being a succubus more of a hassle (or RP thing) than anything?

 

EDIT : My mistake, I was only looking at the perks. There are a bunch of permanent bonuses linked to succubus levels : "There are 12 succubus levels, and each will provide a boost to stamina and magic regeneration, health, and damage resistance."

 

It is a little for RP and a little bit of a reason to keep doing SexLab stuff later in the game. But of course it's all completely optional. You might miss out on some quests that I'm thinking of adding later if you don't do it, but it's only a small part of this mod, really.

 

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2) a general point about prostitution mods : I already run Submissive Lola, Public Whore and Dirty Deeds, and I would really like for some patch to allow all of that sex work to be condensed somehow. As things stand, playing with many mods like that creates an ungodly amount of very similar conversation topics with NPCs. I don't recommend it!

 

Anyway, great mod!

 

Yeah, I get that. I can pretty well guarantee I won't be the one to make that patch, but I do understand. But getting annoyed with things is a pretty good motivator to make things, too. I made TAP because I wasn't satisfied with the other choices. So maybe someone will get annoyed enough with that to make a patch themselves.

[killer905]

Today i play ESO and i find this:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Lusty_Argonian_Footman,_Volume_1

 

Maybe worth to add? ^^

[ruddycray]

4 hours ago, killer905 said:

Today i play ESO and i find this:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Lusty_Argonian_Footman,_Volume_1

 

Maybe worth to add? ^^

 

I hadn't seen that one. I might bring it in.

[killer905]

7 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

I hadn't seen that one. I might bring it in.

Was added in Murkmire DLC