The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[kassandra12]

39 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

What you're trying to do now is how you start them when unaffiliated.

 

For the moment, camp jobs are forever unavailable once you take sides in the civil war.

 

I may consider relaxing this in a later release, but right now I went with the idea that a military organization would not be OK with one of its soldiers selling herself to her fellow soldiers.

 

That's fair enough. Honestly, it's not a big deal. 

 

I really enjoy this mod and thanks for keeping the mod updated with new stuff.

[killer905]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

What you're trying to do now is how you start them when unaffiliated.

 

For the moment, camp jobs are forever unavailable once you take sides in the civil war.

 

I may consider relaxing this in a later release, but right now I went with the idea that a military organization would not be OK with one of its soldiers selling herself to her fellow soldiers.

It is also worth mentioning that after specific tasks, a PC has a higher rank than an ordinary soldier. So we have Legate PC where it gives pleasure to ordinary soldiers? Somehow it doesn't fit here.

[xtrange988]

15 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

What you're trying to do now is how you start them when unaffiliated.

 

For the moment, camp jobs are forever unavailable once you take sides in the civil war.

 

I may consider relaxing this in a later release, but right now I went with the idea that a military organization would not be OK with one of its soldiers selling herself to her fellow soldiers.

 

I think once you pick a side, that job should remain unavailable.

Instead the player can make an offer to the camp commanders but only at night when they go to their tents and and the player spends all the night there. After all the player is no common soldier and the commander deserves better than a camp follower who could be a spy.

[KentuckyExpat]

Question. I, like probably many others, am running one of the mods that gives every female in the game a menstrual cycle. The one I'm using is Fertility Mode. In that mod, there is a random chance that one of the male NPCs will have sex with one of the female NPCs and my female PC.  If it is vaginal sex, this can result in a pregnancy. Some of the NPCs affected are the brothel prostitutes, a few of whom have become pregnant in my current playthrough.

My question though is this, when my PC has sex in the brothel or she solicits sex in one of the inns, the "customer" never actually cums in her. They go through the motions but there is no indication that he cums. Is this by design or is something missing? On the other hand, if the sex is initiated through one of the SexLab mods, like SLEN - SexLab Eager NPCs, the male does cum in the female when vaginal sex occurs.

 

Another slightly related question, do your prostitutes have custom bodies? Of the few prostitutes that have become pregnant, none show any signs of it even when 6-9 months (equivalent) pregnant.

[metanight78]

Regarding the temple of Dibella quest line.

 

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Is Janilla supposed to go the temple after talking with the ghost of her mother (and living). In my game she went back to Solitude. I'm using the LE version and already asked over there about this.

 

[ruddycray]

8 minutes ago, metanight78 said:

Regarding the temple of Dibella quest line.

 

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Is Janilla supposed to go the temple after talking with the ghost of her mother (and living). In my game she went back to Solitude. I'm using the LE version and already asked over there about this.

 

 

No, I haven't gotten around to making anything happen with that yet. She'll eventually go to the temple in Markarth for initiation and then back to the temple in Solitude, but I haven't done it yet.

[ruddycray]

6 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said:

Question. I, like probably many others, am running one of the mods that gives every female in the game a menstrual cycle. The one I'm using is Fertility Mode. In that mod, there is a random chance that one of the male NPCs will have sex with one of the female NPCs and my female PC.  If it is vaginal sex, this can result in a pregnancy. Some of the NPCs affected are the brothel prostitutes, a few of whom have become pregnant in my current playthrough.

My question though is this, when my PC has sex in the brothel or she solicits sex in one of the inns, the "customer" never actually cums in her. They go through the motions but there is no indication that he cums. Is this by design or is something missing? On the other hand, if the sex is initiated through one of the SexLab mods, like SLEN - SexLab Eager NPCs, the male does cum in the female when vaginal sex occurs.

 

Another slightly related question, do your prostitutes have custom bodies? Of the few prostitutes that have become pregnant, none show any signs of it even when 6-9 months (equivalent) pregnant.

 

I haven't had any problem with that when I play. I usually have Fertility Mode installed. And, no, they do not have custom bodies.

[zb123thecat]

hi, is there a recommendation how to target the NPCs in this mod with SPID?

it's great that there is a choice of outfits that comes with the mod, but I would like to distribute some other choices. I read the second support post but I was thinking to use SPID. also, what is the ID of the naked Elf Lady? I was gonna distribute some fallback clothes to all female citizens but that also ended up with her wearing clothes, so I need to exclude her.

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, zb123thecat said:

hi, is there a recommendation how to target the NPCs in this mod with SPID?

it's great that there is a choice of outfits that comes with the mod, but I would like to distribute some other choices. I read the second support post but I was thinking to use SPID. also, what is the ID of the naked Elf Lady? I was gonna distribute some fallback clothes to all female citizens but that also ended up with her wearing clothes, so I need to exclude her.

 

Her base ID is xx051cc5 and her ref ID is xx051cd7. You can also get that kind of information using More Informative Console.

 

I don't have a recommendation on how to use SPID. I've never used it.

[Ansakay]

Hello! I complete quest in Winterhold but haven't succubus. When I asked necromancer about spell he said it's very dungerous and refuse me. What problem?

[Highborn]

10 minutes ago, Ansakay said:

Hello! I complete quest in Winterhold but haven't succubus. When I asked necromancer about spell he said it's very dungerous and refuse me. What problem?

iirc you have to wait until you get a new letter from him to continue his side quest

[Ansakay]

9 minutes ago, Highborn said:

iirc you have to wait until you get a new letter from him to continue his side quest

Thanks!

[ruddycray]

8 hours ago, Ansakay said:

Thanks!

 

There are 4 quests you must complete, and it's about 5 game days between each. The last of them is named "Culmination". After that, there will be a 24 game hour wait, and then you can ask for the spell with a speech check.

Edited October 7, 2023 by ruddycray

[KentuckyExpat]

On 10/4/2023 at 11:12 PM, ruddycray said:

 

I haven't had any problem with that when I play. I usually have Fertility Mode installed. And, no, they do not have custom bodies.

So in your game, the customer does cum in the PC when they have vaginal sex.

BTW I was just referencing Fertility Mode to provide clarity as to my question. No issues with it per se.

[ruddycray]

10 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said:

So in your game, the customer does cum in the PC when they have vaginal sex.

BTW I was just referencing Fertility Mode to provide clarity as to my question. No issues with it per se.

 

As far as I know, yes. I don't do long play throughs often enough to see my test character get pregnant with Fertility Mode, but I'm sure I've seen brothel customers in the list in Fertility Mode before. And when I turn that mod on I always turn off random insemination.

[KentuckyExpat]

4 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

As far as I know, yes. I don't do long play throughs often enough to see my test character get pregnant with Fertility Mode, but I'm sure I've seen brothel customers in the list in Fertility Mode before. And when I turn that mod on I always turn off random insemination.

Since you turn off random inseminations you wouldn't see the regular messages at the top left of your screen saying"male NPC X came in female NPC Y". Those are the random inseminations and they can, occasionally, impregnate one of the working girls, even when the random male isn't one of the brothel customers.

 

My original question was more along the lines of "why do all of the other working girls have their customers cum in them but not my PC?" Not really interested in her getting pregnant, per se, just curious as to why this wasn't happening.

[ruddycray]

20 minutes ago, KentuckyExpat said:

Since you turn off random inseminations you wouldn't see the regular messages at the top left of your screen saying"male NPC X came in female NPC Y". Those are the random inseminations and they can, occasionally, impregnate one of the working girls, even when the random male isn't one of the brothel customers.

 

My original question was more along the lines of "why do all of the other working girls have their customers cum in them but not my PC?" Not really interested in her getting pregnant, per se, just curious as to why this wasn't happening.

 

As far as I know that does happen, I have no explanation for why it isn't happening for you.

[petronius]

I understand your statement about incompatibility with other prostitution mods - but being a "more is more" guy when it comes to gameplay and quest content, may I suggest a possible adjustment that should make things more consistent? Make public sex illegal, period, not need to check if it's in the context of this mod's prostitution. If guards catch you, they'll fine or arrest your unless you have a license - in which case you invoke it (even if your sex act had nothing to do with your work) and they let you go with just a warning that you shouldn't work in public view. 

 

Just food for thoughts. I know this would present other challenges with mods that trigger scenes irrespective of where you are. Sexlab Privacy could help a little with not getting caught, and a check for either exterior or public keyword in interior cells might also avoid some scenes being wrongfully considered public.

[Dorabella]

15 minutes ago, petronius said:

Make public sex illegal,

Do you mean this ?

 

Spoiler

 

 

As far as I know , it conditions several mods of sex . 

 

[ruddycray]

13 hours ago, petronius said:

I understand your statement about incompatibility with other prostitution mods - but being a "more is more" guy when it comes to gameplay and quest content, may I suggest a possible adjustment that should make things more consistent? Make public sex illegal, period, not need to check if it's in the context of this mod's prostitution. If guards catch you, they'll fine or arrest your unless you have a license - in which case you invoke it (even if your sex act had nothing to do with your work) and they let you go with just a warning that you shouldn't work in public view. 

 

Just food for thoughts. I know this would present other challenges with mods that trigger scenes irrespective of where you are. Sexlab Privacy could help a little with not getting caught, and a check for either exterior or public keyword in interior cells might also avoid some scenes being wrongfully considered public.

 

Public sex is already illegal regardless of what mod triggers the scene. I added a mod event in 0.14 that other mods can use specifically to allow other mod authors to exempt their scenes from penalty without introducing a hard dependency on TAP.

 

And there are quite a few things that go into deciding whether a scene is "public". When I play I don't really find it happening at inappropriate times, even if it can be inconvenient.

 

Are you talking about getting in trouble for unlicensed prostitution? I don't know a good way to deal with that where guards wouldn't be constantly harassing you.

Edited October 9, 2023 by ruddycray

[KentuckyExpat]

On 10/8/2023 at 12:34 PM, ruddycray said:

 

As far as I know that does happen, I have no explanation for why it isn't happening for you.

It's odd because my PC also has sex outside the brothel/licensed scenarios in your mod (sex with her follower using SLEN - SexLab Eager NPCs) and her follower cums in her.

[jfraser]

does there happen to be a patch between this and sexlab survival? they'd go great together but need things like giving both systems' whoring license at the same time.

[Guest]

Thanks for this Mod, having fun as a succubus stealing souls.

I wondered if there are any plans to use Simple Slavery to Sell the Pc as a captive "Lab Rat" for Vanikseth/Vanika to use and ultimately turn into said Succubus?

Would be a cool RP Scenario.

Thank You.

 

Skyrim SE 1.5.97

 

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by Sir Bron

[ruddycray]

47 minutes ago, Sir Bron said:

Thanks for this Mod, having fun as a succubus stealing souls.

I wondered if there are any plans to use Simple Slavery to Sell the Pc as a captive "Lab Rat" for Vanikseth/Vanika to use and ultimately turn into said Succubus?

Would be a cool RP Scenario.

Thank You.

 

Skyrim SE 1.5.97

 

 

 

There are not. I think Simple Slavery has to be updated to have another scenario added to it. At least that's what I understood the last time I looked at it.

 

But I also don't think it makes sense with who Vanikseth is, or with the fact that slavery being illegal will come up a fair bit in dialogue.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ruddycray said:

 

There are not. I think Simple Slavery has to be updated to have another scenario added to it. At least that's what I understood the last time I looked at it.

 

But I also don't think it makes sense with who Vanikseth is, or with the fact that slavery being illegal will come up a fair bit in dialogue.

Fair enough, Thanks for responding.