Apropos2 Text DB Update

[Papersword]

On 1/19/2021 at 12:12 PM, Coalstorm said:

How do I create my own texts for this mod? I wish to know because I would love to have text for FemWerewolf PC x Male NPC.

 

Hey! I was coming in to ask a very similar question. For PC Male Werewolf x Female NPC. Typically third person messages play whenever ABMM or Defeat pull NPCs into a scene so I had figured PCWere x FNPC would work without issue. Messages don't seem to be coming up. My first thought was to create a folder as WerewolfActor_Female and convert all the file names from FemaleActor_Werewolf to match but, that hasn't seemed to work. 

[Eadoo]

On 1/19/2021 at 11:12 AM, Coalstorm said:

How do I create my own texts for this mod? I wish to know because I would love to have text for FemWerewolf PC x Male NPC.

 

There aren't currently hooks for male PC/Creature content in Apropos2. 

[Wonders of Eros]

19 hours ago, Eadoo said:

 

There aren't currently hooks for male PC/Creature content in Apropos2. 

So, if I do have sex with a male NPC as a female werewolf, what happens? Will it play a regular F PC x M NPC monologue or will it not play anything at all?

[Eadoo]

21 hours ago, Coalstorm said:

So, if I do have sex with a male NPC as a female werewolf, what happens? Will it play a regular F PC x M NPC monologue or will it not play anything at all?

I...am not sure.  It's going to do one of two things:

 

* Play female PC/male NPC

* Play nothing

 

My bet is that you'll see nothing.

[Gukahn]

I love it, thought about writing Women on Women descriptions myself as i was in the middle on working on my own apropos messages. You saved me a lot of work and your edits will make what i want to do much easier ? 

[Guest]

How does this work for SE?

[Eadoo]

8 hours ago, Temno Rytsar said:

How does this work for SE?

 

This is just the database.  SE/LE doesn't matter.

You'll want to get Apropos2 running on SE, though.  A link for that is in my signature.

[Vauria]

friendly neighbourhood json validator

 

FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Rape_Stage2, FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Rape_Stage4 missing comma end of lines 35 and 50
FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Stage2, FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Stage4 extra comma end of line 44
FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage2, FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage3, FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage4, FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage5, missing comma end of line 40

 

and then not quite a JSON error, but I assume you didn't mean to add those Lesbian files to the HighlandCow folder?  

[Eadoo]

8 hours ago, Vauria said:

friendly neighbourhood json validator

 

FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Rape_Stage2, FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Rape_Stage4 missing comma end of lines 35 and 50
FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Stage2, FemaleActor_Scrib_Anal_Stage4 extra comma end of line 44
FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage2, FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage3, FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage4, FemaleActor_Scrib_Vaginal_Stage5, missing comma end of line 40

 

and then not quite a JSON error, but I assume you didn't mean to add those Lesbian files to the HighlandCow folder?  

Hahahaha...you caught work-in-progress.  I'm planning on basing the FemaleActor_HighlandCow_Oral_Rape on FemaleActor_Female_Lesbian_Rape.  ?

I'll get the JSON stuff updated for a release next weekend!  Thank you for reporting!

[Corsec]

Why is the latest upload marked as version 0.6.14 when 0.6.17 is advertised as the latest version?

 

I'm not sure if you intended to make an earlier version available, or if you just misnamed the file. Thought I'd ask for clarification.

[Eadoo]

12 hours ago, Corsec said:

Why is the latest upload marked as version 0.6.14 when 0.6.17 is advertised as the latest version?

 

I'm not sure if you intended to make an earlier version available, or if you just misnamed the file. Thought I'd ask for clarification.

 

The NONCON database by @NatibusAmator is based on 0.6.14 and I wasn't sure if it'd work right if it were loaded over recent versions since I changed synonyms around a bit.  As a result, I thought it a good idea to provide the version of the DB it branched from. 

[Corsec]

4 hours ago, Eadoo said:

 

The NONCON database by @NatibusAmator is based on 0.6.14 and I wasn't sure if it'd work right if it were loaded over recent versions since I changed synonyms around a bit.  As a result, I thought it a good idea to provide the version of the DB it branched from. 

 

 

Ok, thanks for clarifying. That's really useful information to know. I was holding off on trying the noncon database because I wasn't sure how compatible it was with the latest version of your database. If I can be sure the noncon database is compatible with 0.6.14 then I'd be willing to try using them together. So thanks for uploading 0.6.14.

[TheDragonBorn]

does this mod finally have more male pc support. i noticed there is a ton of dialogue for female pc's but as a male pc on female npc the descriptions are very bland and generic. if that has changed im redownloading it, i always thought this was a great mod

[Eadoo]

14 hours ago, TheDragonBorn said:

does this mod finally have more male pc support. i noticed there is a ton of dialogue for female pc's but as a male pc on female npc the descriptions are very bland and generic. if that has changed im redownloading it, i always thought this was a great mod

 

Hang on just a little while longer!

I'm getting close to the end of the line with regards to my plans for 0.6 (which were specifically to fill out the female PC content).  My *first* goal for 0.7 is MaleActor_Female content, which will directly benefit your male PC.

[TheDragonBorn]

1 hour ago, Eadoo said:

 

Hang on just a little while longer!

I'm getting close to the end of the line with regards to my plans for 0.6 (which were specifically to fill out the female PC content).  My *first* goal for 0.7 is MaleActor_Female content, which will directly benefit your male PC.

thats gonna be awesome. i'll be waiting

[jpee1965]

15 hours ago, TheDragonBorn said:

thats gonna be awesome. i'll be waiting

 

 

I was about to ask EXACTLY the same thing!  LOLZ!  That's great news THANKS!

[Eadoo]

IMPORTANT DATA REQUEST:

I'm beginning to work the Male PC dialog now.  For whatever reason that's more interesting to me than other stuff, and there are more people asking for it.

I never play a Male PC.  I need you to answer some questions for me:

1.  Are there MaleActor_Female types of interactions that are currently a complete lack of text for?  I suspect Foreplay, anything else?

2.  Is the 3rd person dialog ever called?  If you're on default settings, I suspect your PC is seeing 2nd person MaleActor_Female, and all other characters are using 3rd person from FemaleActor_Male.  Is that right?

3.  Anything else special that you'd like to request?  I'm limited to only MaleActor_Female stuff by Apropos2, and I can't do W&T on males, unfortunately.

I already know there aren't enough stages of text to match up with all of the animations.  I'll fix that.

 

@TheDragonBorn @jpee1965 @zenonthez07

[TheDragonBorn]

10 hours ago, Eadoo said:

IMPORTANT DATA REQUEST:

I'm beginning to work the Male PC dialog now.  For whatever reason that's more interesting to me than other stuff, and there are more people asking for it.

I never play a Male PC.  I need you to answer some questions for me:

1.  Are there MaleActor_Female types of interactions that are currently a complete lack of text for?  I suspect Foreplay, anything else?

2.  Is the 3rd person dialog ever called?  If you're on default settings, I suspect your PC is seeing 2nd person MaleActor_Female, and all other characters are using 3rd person from FemaleActor_Male.  Is that right?

3.  Anything else special that you'd like to request?  I'm limited to only MaleActor_Female stuff by Apropos2, and I can't do W&T on males, unfortunately.

I already know there aren't enough stages of text to match up with all of the animations.  I'll fix that.

 

@TheDragonBorn @jpee1965 @zenonthez07

1. kind of tough to remember it has been awhile since i have used this mod now. i know it definitely didn't have dialogue dedicated to any specific animations, it recycled lines a lot for most positions. it would be cool to see it use dialogue based on the animation tag like, lotus, missionary, cowgirl, cunnilings, and especially femdom, im curious how femdom would be handled from a male perspective.  

one thing i remember specifically was being with my pc's spouse and dialogue often popped up stating my pc was better than her father and giants, which kinda ruined it for

a happy loyal marriage lol maybe that can be conditional for that to trigger or something, so it doesn't interfere with a more normal relationship

2. yeah you're right from what i remember.

3. W&T is kind of there already for males in a way. if you engage in too many sexual activities there are penalties on my pc so i assume its like the penis being injured from my partner playing leap frog on the rod too much. there could be dialogue for that. right now i personally think covering  the many different animations packs out there is more important before

doing anything special just to catch up for male dialogue, i would recommend doing the popular animations like anubs, billy, milky, nibbles, and lords has some interesting stuff, i know its a ton of work. if you wanna do something really special maybe add conditional dialogue like dialogue that triggers if you sleep with your spouse after cheating to make up or something idk if thats possible or not. 

[zenonthez07]

13 hours ago, Eadoo said:

IMPORTANT DATA REQUEST:

I'm beginning to work the Male PC dialog now.  For whatever reason that's more interesting to me than other stuff, and there are more people asking for it.

I never play a Male PC.  I need you to answer some questions for me:

1.  Are there MaleActor_Female types of interactions that are currently a complete lack of text for?  I suspect Foreplay, anything else?

2.  Is the 3rd person dialog ever called?  If you're on default settings, I suspect your PC is seeing 2nd person MaleActor_Female, and all other characters are using 3rd person from FemaleActor_Male.  Is that right?

3.  Anything else special that you'd like to request?  I'm limited to only MaleActor_Female stuff by Apropos2, and I can't do W&T on males, unfortunately.

I already know there aren't enough stages of text to match up with all of the animations.  I'll fix that.

 

@TheDragonBorn @jpee1965 @zenonthez07

 

I haven't used the mod in a while and didn't really use it in a wide variety of animation types. I'm pretty sure foreplay was there, but I don't usually use foreplay animations due to their lack of variety. As for special requests the only one I can think of pertains the virginity option. Toggling it off leads to the dialogue reusing the how many cumshots has she had up here line and other ones that imply sluttiness. Really ruins the mood so maybe you can tone those down. Otherwise, I'm happy to see you're starting work on this.

[0wnyx]

mo2 does not recognize the update files for se, i understand the updated versions are only for le ? (i am not interested in manual installation)

[Eadoo]

5 hours ago, 0wnyx said:

mo2 does not recognize the update files for se, i understand the updated versions are only for le ? (i am not interested in manual installation)

 

There's a link to a guide for MO in the "Known Issues" section of the mod page.  MO makes bad assumptions about what a mod should be.

[0wnyx]

1 hour ago, Eadoo said:

 

There's a link to a guide for MO in the "Known Issues" section of the mod page.  MO makes bad assumptions about what a mod should be.

that guide is confusing and its for mo1. for now i copied the files from the update (the files inside db) into my installed apropos2 db file, i hope that works. i urge you to release a fresh functional one click install mod compatible with mo2 every time you update the mod as its quite fun. 

[Eadoo]

7 hours ago, 0wnyx said:

that guide is confusing and its for mo1. for now i copied the files from the update (the files inside db) into my installed apropos2 db file, i hope that works. i urge you to release a fresh functional one click install mod compatible with mo2 every time you update the mod as its quite fun. 

 

Of the three mod managers folks use, MO is the only one with this problem.  I package my files in a format that is consistent with how other mods are packaged (I just checked some of my 3BBB bodyslide mods to be sure).

I don't use MO, and I don't know what it's expecting.  Unfortunately, unless someone can tell me *why* it's insane, there's not much I can do about this.

[Vauria]

4 hours ago, Eadoo said:

Unfortunately, unless someone can tell me *why* it's insane, there's not much I can do about this.

 

MO has a feature designed to catch mods that aren't packaged the way they should be, by searching for the first folder that aligns with how the Skyrim Data directory is organised, i.e. has an esp, or has a folder called scripts with .pex files in, has a folder called meshes with .nif files in, etc. Since this mod only changes the folder Apropos adds to Skyrim's data directory itself, MO doesn't recognise it as something that will have any impact on your game, since alone it wouldn't.

 

Adding an empty folder called scripts or textures alongside 'Apropos' should be enough to let MO recognise it.

[Eadoo]

14 hours ago, Vauria said:

 

MO has a feature designed to catch mods that aren't packaged the way they should be, by searching for the first folder that aligns with how the Skyrim Data directory is organised, i.e. has an esp, or has a folder called scripts with .pex files in, has a folder called meshes with .nif files in, etc. Since this mod only changes the folder Apropos adds to Skyrim's data directory itself, MO doesn't recognise it as something that will have any impact on your game, since alone it wouldn't.

 

Adding an empty folder called scripts or textures alongside 'Apropos' should be enough to let MO recognise it.

 

Aha.  I knew it had something to do with mod validation.

Adding an empty folder is trivial.  We'll give it a shot when I update this weekend.