Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, andruusha said:

I saved in Laura's shop and then loaded. Now Katarina always attacks me. No matter what I do, she does not stop attacking me. stopcombat, kill, resurrect, setrelationshiprank. I do not want to load other saves, because I will lose a lot of progress. If nothing works, I will just disable her and somehow play without her

*sigh*

 

[IcicleInn]

Hm, was replaying LBS for the first time in a long while and uh, probably because I'm playing with Gourmet and a couple other survival/cooking mods but I don't have the recipe for Apple Cabbage Stew.  Didn't realize my modlist broke that recipe

[CaptainJ03]

7 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

Hm, was replaying LBS for the first time in a long while and uh, probably because I'm playing with Gourmet and a couple other survival/cooking mods but I don't have the recipe for Apple Cabbage Stew.  Didn't realize my modlist broke that recipe

That must be quite the modlist - Laura incorporated a solution for Gourmet years ago. Can you just console yourself the stew?

[not_a_waluigi]

Weird issue I have to spoil the questline to explain.

 

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After the "Origin" quest Laura and Katherine ended up stuck in the wilderness, right where they were during the last cutscene. They are absent from the shop and will not provide dialogue to advance the quest.

 

 

I had a possibly related issue earlier where Deviously Cursed Loot rape triggered on Laura, causing her to teleport to my position (since I didn't notice the message and fast traveled), and then she just disappeared permanently.

 

Thankfully I made a save before the quest, but I'm wondering if there's also a workaround.

 

[IcicleInn]

2 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

That must be quite the modlist - Laura incorporated a solution for Gourmet years ago. Can you just console yourself the stew?

For some reason I cannot.   I managed to work around getting softlocked by using console set stage commands, but I only have a "Hot Apple Cabbage Stew" when I searched in console for the stew and that didn't work.

 

I haven't dug too deeply into what mods did the change but since I do have Gourmet, Last Seed and a couple other survival mods it may not be immediately obvious on which one axed the recipe.

1 hour ago, not_a_waluigi said:

Weird issue

In my experience, DCL messes with a LOT of scripted mods, even when it's being told to go to sleep.  Got to the point that I just uninstalled it and went looking for other less disruptive mod options.

[serph90]

7 hours ago, not_a_waluigi said:

Weird issue I have to spoil the questline to explain.

 

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After the "Origin" quest Laura and Katherine ended up stuck in the wilderness, right where they were during the last cutscene. They are absent from the shop and will not provide dialogue to advance the quest.

 

 

I had a possibly related issue earlier where Deviously Cursed Loot rape triggered on Laura, causing her to teleport to my position (since I didn't notice the message and fast traveled), and then she just disappeared permanently.

 

Thankfully I made a save before the quest, but I'm wondering if there's also a workaround.

 

same issue happened to me, and I didn't have cursed loot installed

 

[Salahmalah58]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:03 AM, Laura said:

Sorry for responding so late.

I do see some errors in there but I'm not sure if they're the cause.

You mentioned that when it fails it removes restraints you no didn't have on. This tells me it went wrong earlier than that. What happened before that?

 

 

I apologize, it's probably because of my poor English and my poor wording, but it doesn't remove the previous restrictions. It ONLY removes the restrictions that Jade put on my character. But those again and again. Or it only removes them the first time, because after that they are no longer on my character, but it still says that it has been removed. As if they are still on it.

 

 

 

[blablub1248]

On 2/20/2025 at 8:41 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

Did you really skip the questline? Which means read the letter you got at the end after your last playthrough, took the key and went where you were supposed to go? If not, that option cannot be there.

I read the letter. I got the key and later the armor. And after I talked to a specific person I got the second letter. When I talked with Laura I could even use the trapdoor.

[Laura]

46 minutes ago, blablub1248 said:

I read the letter. I got the key and later the armor. And after I talked to a specific person I got the second letter. When I talked with Laura I could even use the trapdoor.

Did you complete the delivery intro quest?

I don't exactly remember why but it's a requirement for The Game.

Edited February 24, 2025 by Laura

[icantthinkofausername69]

i cant seem to find the barrel in "Taking control" quest, I've already read the journals and walked up and down the river/waterfall many times.

[Laura]

On 2/24/2025 at 12:04 AM, Salahmalah58 said:

I apologize, it's probably because of my poor English and my poor wording, but it doesn't remove the previous restrictions. It ONLY removes the restrictions that Jade put on my character. But those again and again. Or it only removes them the first time, because after that they are no longer on my character, but it still says that it has been removed. As if they are still on it.

No problem. Do you have mods that change how restraints/devices work?

Also, how old is your save? Have installed and removed a bunch of mods in that playthrough?

 

 

 

10 hours ago, icantthinkofausername69 said:

i cant seem to find the barrel in "Taking control" quest, I've already read the journals and walked up and down the river/waterfall many times.

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Go to the location of the last journal page. Then walk left of the waterfall and down the cliff.

 

[Salahmalah58]

16 hours ago, Laura said:

No problem. Do you have mods that change how restraints/devices work?

Also, how old is your save? Have installed and removed a bunch of mods in that playthrough?

 

 

 

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Go to the location of the last journal page. Then walk left of the waterfall and down the cliff.

 

To my knowledge, I do not have any mods installed that would change the way the devices/restraints work. Yes, I have removed mods. However, I just reinstalled the game and started from scratch. All I would ask is, if I can't do it now, is there ANY way to get past this point. I tried with console, but that didn't work. And again, thank you very much for trying to help.

[icantthinkofausername69]

20 hours ago, Laura said:

 

 

 

 

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Go to the location of the last journal page. Then walk left of the waterfall and down the cliff.

 

Still can't seem to find her or the barrel. By the last journal page you mean page 3? if no which one. Or is there any kind of console command to bring the barrel to me?
Thanks!

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, icantthinkofausername69 said:

Still can't seem to find her or the barrel. By the last journal page you mean page 3? if no which one. Or is there any kind of console command to bring the barrel to me?
Thanks!

I've lost track where you are and what you're searching, but assuming that you're in Ivarsted and looking for... whatever her name was.

You are to find 4 journal pages in 3 different locations, not evenly numbered.

Follow the shoreline of Lake whatever the name was towards Nilheim. Find a stool. Find pages. Go a bit further to the waterfall. turn left downhill towards Dark Water Crossing and don't break your neck. A Quest marker should appear out of the blue. Find the barrel, read the note. Meet a person just north of said settlement.

Make a hard save before entering the hut further down the quest, because it tends to glitch.

[Laura]

12 hours ago, Salahmalah58 said:

To my knowledge, I do not have any mods installed that would change the way the devices/restraints work. Yes, I have removed mods. However, I just reinstalled the game and started from scratch. All I would ask is, if I can't do it now, is there ANY way to get past this point. I tried with console, but that didn't work. And again, thank you very much for trying to help.

Alright, if I understand it correctly, you're talking to Sona and she says: "What happened to you?" She then frees you but nothing happens after that? And when you talk to her again the she says the same things?

If that's the case I don't know what's going on in your game. There are no extra conditions after that dialogue. It should just continue. It doesn't even seem to check your items. I don't know what's going on. I'm sorry.

There's no real way to skip this using the console because another quest starts right after that. But even if you do, you're likely to encounter more issues if your game is having trouble with this.

[icantthinkofausername69]

13 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I've lost track where you are and what you're searching, but assuming that you're in Ivarsted and looking for... whatever her name was.

You are to find 4 journal pages in 3 different locations, not evenly numbered.

Follow the shoreline of Lake whatever the name was towards Nilheim. Find a stool. Find pages. Go a bit further to the waterfall. turn left downhill towards Dark Water Crossing and don't break your neck. A Quest marker should appear out of the blue. Find the barrel, read the note. Meet a person just north of said settlement.

Make a hard save before entering the hut further down the quest, because it tends to glitch.

I've found all the pages, found the barrel and entered dark water crossing but i couldn't find the person mentioned in the note.

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, icantthinkofausername69 said:

entered dark water crossing but i couldn't find the person mentioned in the note.

Sitting on a ledge facing the hot spings wee bit north of Dark Water Crossing.

[icantthinkofausername69]

1 hour ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Sitting on a ledge facing the hot spings wee bit north of Dark Water Crossing.

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im now at the part where i have to kill laura annd katrina but when i enter the shop theres noone there except a few dead guards.

 

[CaptainJ03]

3 hours ago, icantthinkofausername69 said:

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im now at the part where i have to kill laura annd katrina but when i enter the shop theres noone there except a few dead guards.

 

If the Master (I think he's called) with you, all is well. Laura will enter the shop soon and talk to you.

If the Master stayed outside (he does in some cases) either reload and/or call him to you. (via console)

[icantthinkofausername69]

1 hour ago, CaptainJ03 said:

If the Master (I think he's called) with you, all is well. Laura will enter the shop soon and talk to you.

If the Master stayed outside (he does in some cases) either reload and/or call him to you. (via console)

Thanks to this i finally finished the main questline! Thanks for being patient with my stupidity🙏🙏🙏, Cheers!

[belegost]

7 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

If the Master stayed outside (he does in some cases)

On SE all followers stay outside and never come with you into the shop.

 

From my understanding, and as someone had explained it to me, it means that navmesh is broken, so the NPC can't path through. This happens most often if a mod has been converted LE->SE but the navmesh was not rebuilt after the conversion.

[Laura]

19 minutes ago, belegost said:

On SE all followers stay outside and never come with you into the shop.

 

From my understanding, and as someone had explained it to me, it means that navmesh is broken, so the NPC can't path through. This happens most often if a mod has been converted LE->SE but the navmesh was not rebuilt after the conversion.

Oops. Didn't know I had to do that seperately. I'll look into it.

[belegost]

3 hours ago, Laura said:

Oops. Didn't know I had to do that seperately. I'll look into it.

I had always assumed that is how its supposed to work, because followers never went into the shop ever since I started using the mod. I'm not going to claim this is something definite especially since I also use JK's Whiterun Outskirts and LBS-JK's Whiterun Outkirts patch. Between these three there may be something that is entirely down to my load order. And I know nothing about navmesh to even attempt to assess it.

Edited February 27, 2025 by belegost

[Laura]

8 minutes ago, belegost said:

I had always assumed that is how its supposed to work, because followers never went into the shop ever since I started using the mod. I'm not going to claim this is something definite especially since I also use JK's Whiterun Outskirts and LBS-JK's Whiterun Outkirts patch. Between these three there may be something that is entirely down to my load order. And I know nothing about navmesh to even attempt to assess it.

Thanks for the clarification. If I messed this up I'd expect more people to report this.

 

 

 

To those who play in SE, do you experience issues with followers not following into the shop?

[Herowynne]

3 hours ago, Laura said:

Thanks for the clarification. If I messed this up I'd expect more people to report this.

 

To those who play in SE, do you experience issues with followers not following into the shop?

 

I have always played Laura's Bondage Shop on SE, and followers have always followed my player character into the shop with no issues.

 

I just did a test with 8 followers (more than usual) and they all followed me into the shop as expected. I use Nether's Follower Framework (NFF).

 

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