Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[CaptainJ03]

19 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

Katarina immediately attacks me and won't stop!

She seems to be in the guard faction, and you seem to have wronged somewhere in the Whiterun Hold. Unfortunately she doesn't accept surrender. Go find a guard, punch him in the face, pay the fine and Kat should be okay.

[bubba999]

That worked! Thank you kindly!

[Hex Bolt]

Maybe Kat just likes it when you punch a guard.  😁

[Allen Harris]

15 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

No, don't tell nonsense, please! Yes, technically you're right, but if you have Njadi's RefID, please tell @icantthinkofausername69 her ID. It'll be something like xx012345 and all anyone else needs to do is to change the first two digits to their own place in the LO.

I haven't played the LBS questline on this setup yet, so unfortunately I cannot help with Njadi's ID

It's not nonsense; if Laura respawned a character between releases, CK generates a new refid for that character. That's why it depends on the release. But I'm not at that stage in the game, so I can't even give him the one my game has.

[CaptainJ03]

9 hours ago, Allen Harris said:

It's not nonsense; if Laura respawned a character between releases, CK generates a new refid for that character. That's why it depends on the release. But I'm not at that stage in the game, so I can't even give him the one my game has.

I don't know how Laura handles the characters, IIRC there are different instances for the same char in different quests, but when you are in the right quest, you should be able to give the right ID.

But typically a character has one base-ID and one Ref-ID. Mistress Ellarie from Devious Lore has the same ID on LE, AE and on different machines. (She puts you in a hobble dress for her quests and the advice in that thread was to buy a horse, so you can move. I hate horses, so I always use player.moveto xx029c38 - and that number never changed)

[belegost]

1 hour ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I hate horses

But... but... they're so tasty!

[belegost]

How did you actually make Laura into DD vendor? Is there a keyword or faction that needs to be added to an NPC for that? All devices have VendorNoSale keyword, therefore I assume it has to do with factions. I'd like to edit one of the vanilla vendors to purchase devices, but I'm murky on details.

Edited February 16, 2025 by belegost

[chaimhewast]

2 hours ago, belegost said:

I'd like to edit one of the vanilla vendors to purchase devices, but I'm murky on details.

Every vendor has a faction that controls what they'll trade in. That faction has a formlist of what keywords they'll buy/sell, and a flag that toggles whether that list is inclusive or exclusive.

 

As long as the vendor isn't using that flag, you should be able to add the zad_InventoryDevice to their formlist to sell them devices.

[icantthinkofausername69]

On 2/14/2025 at 2:47 AM, Allen Harris said:

The reference id depends on the load order of your mod and which version of it you installed; it won't necessarily be the same as other players'. This is an unfortunate consequence of the way the game's built.

What you *might* try is placeatme. If you can get the base id of the NPC, this will generate a *copy* of the NPC at your location:

   player.placeatme <Base ID> 1

 

However, I'm not sure quest variables or events will be attached to a generated copy like that (in fact, I'm fairly sure they won't be).

or is there any way i can just use "setstage" to finish the quest? and if so what would be the quest id and how would i find it?. Cheers!

[tkthebeast]

On 12/10/2019 at 9:13 AM, Laura said:

I played around with it a bit and like you said, it's similair to Damsel In Distress. It can be translated to DD, but it's already pretty much like most DD content. There's only so much you can do when the player has limited options.

 

About using puzzles, I don't have a repeatable puzzle planned. It's seems impossible to make a puzzle with randomized elements. Unless I have a eureka moment, a repeatable puzzle probably won't happen.

I did play the one from BI about 25 times and it never really bored me. Even though I made the damn thing, I still sometimes forgot a step and that kept it interesting. I could make a puzzle without dialogue and then make the locations of things like keys random to keep it interesting. That could work, I think.

its a scroll guys took me a solid hour to learned i already had it

 

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, icantthinkofausername69 said:

is there any way i can just use "setstage" to finish the quest?

No. You're not the first to ask, but that's not how Laura's quest writing works. She's a great storyteller, but "only" a learning-by-doing programmer. In CK. And she's still sane!

 

If you still cannot find Njadi - I'm sure that you use some kind of mod manager. Make a second profile with only the bare requirements for LBS, play to the point of the quest where you're stuck with your main character, write down the ID, change profile, resume. Or even play the whole quest on this secondary profile, go back to before "a good fit" on your primary profile and take the shortcut.

[tkthebeast]

stuck in hobble dress from nightgale inn never got out of

 

[blablub1248]

I have a problem with this fantastik mod: I played the story two times. In this playthrough I want to skip it, to come directly to "the game". Everything worked alright with the story skip. But there isn't any dialogue option for the collar on the desk to start "the game" . Can somebody help me? 

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, blablub1248 said:

But there isn't any dialogue option for the collar on the desk to start "the game" . Can somebody help me? 

Talk to Laura, ask her if you can help, and ask her if she still has the Thotium Collar.

 

6 hours ago, tkthebeast said:

stuck in hobble dress from nightgale inn never got out of

If you don't know the standard routine to get out of broken DDs, just grab the key with AddItemMenu (or QUI)

[tkthebeast]

i used console commands to do it as dd debug wasnt working and it wasnt registering the device at all took me about a hour to figure this out

[Allen Harris]

11 hours ago, icantthinkofausername69 said:

or is there any way i can just use "setstage" to finish the quest? and if so what would be the quest id and how would i find it?. Cheers!

Not for this mod, I don't think. I believe Laura attaches her progression triggers on either dialog events, item events or NPC actions (rather than invoking the setstage and doing the work in there). So setstage won't progress it right.

That said...are you sure you're even looking in the right place? I don't know of any mods that place a bunch of NPCs at the ass end of Lake Yorgrim. She's at the bottom tip of Lake Yorgrim, just slightly south of the Nightgate Inn.

Edited February 18, 2025 by Allen Harris

[Dendriah]

do i need to redo bodyslide and stuff for the update or just install and go?

 

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, Dendriah said:

do i need to redo bodyslide and stuff for the update or just install and go?

This mod only uses DD stuff, so you're good to go.

 

On a side note: Why ask in an international forum with response times between one hour and two days, instead of just clicking Batch Build in BS? The whole batch takes 40 seconds to build, which is less time than even open the browser, find the right thread and write a message...

[icantthinkofausername69]

21 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

No. You're not the first to ask, but that's not how Laura's quest writing works. She's a great storyteller, but "only" a learning-by-doing programmer. In CK. And she's still sane!

 

If you still cannot find Njadi - I'm sure that you use some kind of mod manager. Make a second profile with only the bare requirements for LBS, play to the point of the quest where you're stuck with your main character, write down the ID, change profile, resume. Or even play the whole quest on this secondary profile, go back to before "a good fit" on your primary profile and take the shortcut.

ah alright thanks!

[IcicleInn]

On 2/13/2025 at 1:30 AM, icantthinkofausername69 said:

yes im asking for her reference id because i cant replay the whole section again 

Here's Njadi's console info:

Spoiler

Edited February 20, 2025 by IcicleInn

[icantthinkofausername69]

6 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

Here's Njadi's console info:

  Hide contents

ah thanks but i already found her on another save and tped her on my main. Thanks a lot though! might be useful for others who are stuck on this issue.

[blablub1248]

On 2/18/2025 at 9:39 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

Talk to Laura, ask her if you can help, and ask her if she still has the Thotium Collar.

 

If you don't know the standard routine to get out of broken DDs, just grab the key with AddItemMenu (or QUI)

The option to ask her about the Thotium collar isn't there. 

[CaptainJ03]

46 minutes ago, blablub1248 said:

The option to ask her about the Thotium collar isn't there. 

Did you really skip the questline? Which means read the letter you got at the end after your last playthrough, took the key and went where you were supposed to go? If not, that option cannot be there.

[Laura]

On 2/10/2025 at 6:43 PM, Salahmalah58 said:

Of course. It only contains the part where the "A Familiar Face" mission begins and up to the part where I can't continue.

Logs.rar 82.57 kB · 3 downloads

Sorry for responding so late.

I do see some errors in there but I'm not sure if they're the cause.

You mentioned that when it fails it removes restraints you no didn't have on. This tells me it went wrong earlier than that. What happened before that?

 

 

 

 

On 2/14/2025 at 12:38 PM, bubba999 said:

I would like to register a complaint! It's about delivery times.  Example: Make a delivery from Laura's shop to Chillfurrow Farm, which is right nearby. Run there at top speed! It's still a late delivery. C'mon, man!

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Seriously though. I don't know how that happened. 😅

Which npc was it?

[andruusha]

I saved in Laura's shop and then loaded. Now Katarina always attacks me. No matter what I do, she does not stop attacking me. stopcombat, kill, resurrect, setrelationshiprank. I do not want to load other saves, because I will lose a lot of progress. If nothing works, I will just disable her and somehow play without her