sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[ekion]

Having an issue with some devious devices and they suggested I check in over here. The pahe slaves wont wear some dd items. Yokes, hoods, zaz items and cuffs work but plugs dresses and corsets dont. Their inventory shows the item equipped but they arent restricted and the item doesnt show on the bodies. I tell them to wear the item but I don't get the lock dialog prompt to secure them in the item. All the items work on the player and they had me install devious cursed loot to see if the npcs from that mod have the items and they do.

thanks for any help.

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, fred200 said:

@CliftonJD - Thank you.

There are only a few mods on my "Always included" list. PAHE is one.

Thanks for your work on it over the years.

 

On SE - I added a few enslavement ropes from console. NPCs I tried it on ignored them,.... Must have been missing activators.

Now I will have to try the right way.

And I will scrap all my old Devious Suits patches. That will simplify things. 

i find the devious strikers to be the most obstinant for refusing to wear the ropes, think its a conflict with some cuffs already on those

58 minutes ago, ekion said:

Having an issue with some devious devices and they suggested I check in over here. The pahe slaves wont wear some dd items. Yokes, hoods, zaz items and cuffs work but plugs dresses and corsets dont. Their inventory shows the item equipped but they arent restricted and the item doesnt show on the bodies. I tell them to wear the item but I don't get the lock dialog prompt to secure them in the item. All the items work on the player and they had me install devious cursed loot to see if the npcs from that mod have the items and they do.

thanks for any help.

are you using this with dom or diary of mine

[ekion]

56 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

i find the devious strikers to be the most obstinant for refusing to wear the ropes, think its a conflict with some cuffs already on those

are you using this with dom or diary of mine

yes

[CliftonJD]

6 minutes ago, ekion said:

yes

current version of dom changes how the inventory is handled, possibly why its not working. you'll need to report the problem there

[kohlteth]

On 10/27/2022 at 6:59 PM, Will55 said:

Now I am free from the slavers spellbook curse 99% of PAH works with no complaint from me

 

 what curse is this? I ask as I have recently tried to Zmerge a bunch of follower mods and that mod made my entire load order get wiped due to some script error in it. 

[Martok73]

On 10/27/2022 at 7:51 PM, CliftonJD said:

and yes the kajiit at pinewatch is from pahe also, should have the option to enslave faction her

What about the other npc in the cage beside the Kahjiit? Also, when I interact with the cat nothing happens, I literally have to attack her and put her into bleedout first before the option to enslave shows up, as while she's "normal" no dialog window pops up at all.

[Will55]

7 hours ago, kohlteth said:

 

 what curse is this? I ask as I have recently tried to Zmerge a bunch of follower mods and that mod made my entire load order get wiped due to some script error in it. 

It (the slavers' spellbook mod) made 90% of my slaves impossible to restrain (that itself is not a sufficient description as they floated through the air and disappeared totally with regularity)  when using either PAH 8.1.2 or 8.1.4, and the ONLY way I could gain submission was by constantly whipping them which made the game unbearable for me (I do not mind an occasional whipping of the odd smarta**e bitch but not en masse).

I also never could increase pose by much as NO means of restraint would work in 90% including the devious dwemer slave/pet outfits and I often saw slaves equipped with such cooking or using an enchantment/a;lchemy table.

I wasted almost 6 months on trying to solve this, but it was only when CliftonJD took a good look at my huge papyrus saves that he noticed that it was this mod (slavers' spellbook)  at the heart of it all as it had not been updated to the latest PAH standards. Since I wiped this mod my problems which have ruined about 5 char runs (levels from 57 to much higher) have dwindled into the usual trivial ones.

Edited October 30, 2022 by Will55

[CliftonJD]

8 hours ago, Martok73 said:

What about the other npc in the cage beside the Kahjiit? Also, when I interact with the cat nothing happens, I literally have to attack her and put her into bleedout first before the option to enslave shows up, as while she's "normal" no dialog window pops up at all.

ok, thank you for reporting, will investigate this

[Pfactor]

I've searched through this and Home Sweet Home and I've found no mention of thugs, but there is a quest marker.

Recently I cleared out a Forsworn HQ and I went to sleep and left the computer on. When I woke up there were 3 women in the cave with me all called Thug. None attacked me. One was essential when I attacked them. What are they for?

[Will55]

1 hour ago, Pfactor said:

I've searched through this and Home Sweet Home and I've found no mention of thugs, but there is a quest marker.

Recently I cleared out a Forsworn HQ and I went to sleep and left the computer on. When I woke up there were 3 women in the cave with me all called Thug. None attacked me. One was essential when I attacked them. What are they for?

If you have stolen something from someone there is always one thug attack at least, however there is a mod called IIRC immersive Encounters that increases the number of such attacks AND again IIRC, the Sanguine's debauchery mod adds thugs whose aim is to batter you into defeat and enslave you for him. As I kept killing them (with difficulty i add) I missed several opportunities for my female char to enjoy being Sanguine;s sex toy until the penny dropped. but by then my game was falling apart thanks to the SS curse and it was dumped.

Maybe your thugs were from Sanguine's team although the essential tag did not occur on any of my attackers. If you have a save with them on it. console them to find out.

[Pfactor]

2 hours ago, Will55 said:

If you have stolen something from someone there is always one thug attack at least, however there is a mod called IIRC immersive Encounters that increases the number of such attacks AND again IIRC, the Sanguine's debauchery mod adds thugs whose aim is to batter you into defeat and enslave you for him. As I kept killing them (with difficulty i add) I missed several opportunities for my female char to enjoy being Sanguine;s sex toy until the penny dropped. but by then my game was falling apart thanks to the SS curse and it was dumped.

Maybe your thugs were from Sanguine's team although the essential tag did not occur on any of my attackers. If you have a save with them on it. console them to find out.

No, I don't have SD installed. 

[trgdolors]

For some time I have been having an issue where slaves will not follow me into some interiors. Originally, they used to go into some of those same interiors. Normal followers will go, and slaves do go into some interiors. This started on the previous version of this mod, but continued after the update. I do not have Diary Of Mine installed.

 

I used to get slaves to follow me into Whiterun Mine from this mod: Ithlia Player Homes. Its a nice ESLed interior. But for quite a while now they no longer will follow me there.

 

Followers Quarters is another place I cannot get slaves to follow me into. It is a fairly recent huge underground living space with many follower's beds and is ESL flagged. Worth looking at, actually.

 

Does anyone have any ideas to fix this?

 

Thanks!

[Parky]

On 10/30/2022 at 11:10 AM, Pfactor said:

I've searched through this and Home Sweet Home and I've found no mention of thugs, but there is a quest marker.

Recently I cleared out a Forsworn HQ and I went to sleep and left the computer on. When I woke up there were 3 women in the cave with me all called Thug. None attacked me. One was essential when I attacked them. What are they for?

Thugs are poorly named slave masters. They work for you to train slaves. The term thug threw me as well at first.

[Pfactor]

3 hours ago, Parky said:

Thugs are poorly named slave masters. They work for you to train slaves. The term thug threw me as well at first.

Well they were all named Thug, not hired thug. And I couldn't talk to them so I was clueless. How does one activate them or spawn?

[MilfSimmer]

Is it possible to disable the translation and just use english version ?

[TheEbonySmith69]

How does a slave's relationship rank progression work? I have a generic vigilant of Stendarr and a bandit that I enslaved and trained up to max. I left them in a room at a relationship rank of 4 and waited for 24 hours in a different room. When I returned to my two slaves, their relationship ranks went down to 2 and 1 respectively. Is this intended? If not what could be causing this? This really isn't causing any problems for my playthrough, but I'd just like my slaves to address me consistently after being brought up to a relationship rank of 4.

[CliftonJD]

22 hours ago, TheEbonySmith69 said:

How does a slave's relationship rank progression work? I have a generic vigilant of Stendarr and a bandit that I enslaved and trained up to max. I left them in a room at a relationship rank of 4 and waited for 24 hours in a different room. When I returned to my two slaves, their relationship ranks went down to 2 and 1 respectively. Is this intended? If not what could be causing this? This really isn't causing any problems for my playthrough, but I'd just like my slaves to address me consistently after being brought up to a relationship rank of 4.

dunno what would cause their relationship rank to drop like that in pahe unless you're using this with dom, but their relationship rank also won't effect how they address you in pahe. the slaves address you based on their respect training once they've been told "From now on you will address me as a slave should, understand?"

[Parky]

On 10/31/2022 at 5:51 PM, Pfactor said:

Well they were all named Thug, not hired thug. And I couldn't talk to them so I was clueless. How does one activate them or spawn?

There is supposed to be dialogue. I did have that for awhile but I noticed that in my current setup, that I lose all my dialogue options when I ask them to be a slavemaster. For whatever reason the later versions of PAHE and DOM are not working for me and cause a crash to desktop. I am using pahe 8.14 and DOM 3.1.2 currently

[CliftonJD]

6 hours ago, Parky said:

There is supposed to be dialogue. I did have that for awhile but I noticed that in my current setup, that I lose all my dialogue options when I ask them to be a slavemaster. For whatever reason the later versions of PAHE and DOM are not working for me and cause a crash to desktop. I am using pahe 8.14 and DOM 3.1.2 currently

where or when does it ctd when using the current version

[gardelucina]

I keep crashing at the logo screen when I have PAHe installed. I'm on Skyrim AE 1.6.640.

[AWHA2]

Is it feasible to make PAHE hook into the Toys&Love framework instead of Sexlab? It is much faster for animations.

 

 

[Parky]

On 11/3/2022 at 4:24 PM, CliftonJD said:

where or when does it ctd when using the current version

When I try to load any save. I tried a new game using alternate start and it loaded into the prison cell, but as soon as I tried to sleep in the bed it crashed as well.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Parky

[CliftonJD]

On 11/4/2022 at 1:48 PM, gardelucina said:

I keep crashing at the logo screen when I have PAHe installed. I'm on Skyrim AE 1.6.640.

ctd at the logo means you've missed a mod requirement. with mo you can check the warning messages for which mod is missing a requirement and what requirement is missing..xedit can also perform this task if you're not using mo by attempting to load xedit with all your mods loaded, it will give an error message of what mod is missing.

On 11/5/2022 at 3:08 PM, AWHA2 said:

Is it feasible to make PAHE hook into the Toys&Love framework instead of Sexlab? It is much faster for animations.

 

 

i have heard somebody is trying to port it to osex

13 hours ago, Parky said:

When I try to load any save. I tried a new game using alternate start and it loaded into the prison cell, but as soon as I tried to sleep in the bed it crashed as well.

ok, then we'll need to set the save aside for now and send me the papyrus log of the ctd from sleeping in the prison cell

[AWHA2]

4 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

i have heard somebody is trying to port it to osex

Interesting, though I imagine porting it to osex is much more work than porting it to T&L. How deeply integrated is PAHE with Sexlab? Is it just the API calls to trigger scenes? If it is not too complicated maybe I'll give it a shot ?

[CliftonJD]

13 hours ago, AWHA2 said:

Interesting, though I imagine porting it to osex is much more work than porting it to T&L. How deeply integrated is PAHE with Sexlab? Is it just the API calls to trigger scenes? If it is not too complicated maybe I'll give it a shot ?

sounds about right