sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[Parky]

Accidentally hit one of my slaves with the "irresistible" which makes the target a lover (was aiming at another NPC, but got pushed at the wrong moment) She disappeared shortly thereafter. Went into MCM and looked her up she was in the "irresistible deleveled holding cell". Tried to teleport her to me, the MCM menu says she is 4m away, but no sign of her, any ideas? Thanks.

[RGB22111]

14 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

hmm, ok with 1 of those saves that has no slaves after having moved them or freed them, try disabling dom and all dom scripts and make new save without dom. you can add dom back in later, but atleast this can help recover the save

No luck. I was able to delete DOM and purge out it's scripts with ReSaver, and the game did load afterwards, and I made a new save. But as soon as I added the new versions of DOM and PAHE it crashes instantly when I load the fresh save. It even crashed with no DOM and just the PAHE update. Unless you've got more ideas, I think I'll probably just accept the death of this save and kick off a new one with an updated modlist.

[Mrfishkies]

When installing the latest edition of this mod (8.1.5) with MO2, the FOMOD will not allow me to install the Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition patch.  The box will not check.

 

The version I have installed of SICSE is 7.0.2 -  Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

 

I also noticed that the FOMOD will:

*  Allow me to check the box of patches for some mods I have installed (like My Home is Your Home Plus) as it should

*  Let me check the box of some mods I don't have installed (like Love Slaves) 

*  Not allow to check the box for patches for mods I don't have installed (like Alternate Start - Live Another Life) as it should. 

 

I fixed this by extracting the mod and manually moving the needed .esp but thought I'd give all a heads up.

 

Anyone else encounter this or is it just me?

 

Thanks!   

 

Never mind!  Redownloaded the mod and the reinstall worked as it is supposed to.  Sorry for the wrong info.

 

BTW, thank for all the work on this mod.  Very much appreciated.

 

 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Mrfishkies

[CliftonJD]

15 hours ago, Parky said:

Accidentally hit one of my slaves with the "irresistible" which makes the target a lover (was aiming at another NPC, but got pushed at the wrong moment) She disappeared shortly thereafter. Went into MCM and looked her up she was in the "irresistible deleveled holding cell". Tried to teleport her to me, the MCM menu says she is 4m away, but no sign of her, any ideas? Thanks.

wasn't aware lovers get moved to a holding cell...check the dom thread for any help with it tho, pahe doesn't use irresistible or have any lovers

14 hours ago, RGB22111 said:

No luck. I was able to delete DOM and purge out it's scripts with ReSaver, and the game did load afterwards, and I made a new save. But as soon as I added the new versions of DOM and PAHE it crashes instantly when I load the fresh save. It even crashed with no DOM and just the PAHE update. Unless you've got more ideas, I think I'll probably just accept the death of this save and kick off a new one with an updated modlist.

ahh, sorry i don't have better news then

10 hours ago, Mrfishkies said:

When installing the latest edition of this mod (8.1.5) with MO2, the FOMOD will not allow me to install the Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition patch.  The box will not check.

 

The version I have installed of SICSE is 7.0.2 -  Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

 

I also noticed that the FOMOD will:

*  Allow me to check the box of patches for some mods I have installed (like My Home is Your Home Plus) as it should

*  Let me check the box of some mods I don't have installed (like Love Slaves) 

*  Not allow to check the box for patches for mods I don't have installed (like Alternate Start - Live Another Life) as it should. 

 

I fixed this by extracting the mod and manually moving the needed .esp but thought I'd give all a heads up.

 

Anyone else encounter this or is it just me?

 

Thanks!   

 

 

thanks, i'll look into it

[Nonseen]

Hello!

 

I run 2 very quick test run with PAHE 8.15 SE version. using skyrim SE 1.5.97 with CC addons (best of both downgraded)

Using very minimal mods and MO2

 

first test i used coc guardianstones command to capture some bandits and test few things.

this lead discover the fallowing bugs:

all captured slave joined to fight aginst enemys same way as if i ordered the slave to fight for me

going from exterior to interior or from interior to exterior  casued slave not strip for sex (rape)

 

i done the same test run with alternate start.

detected same anomalys.

 

checked script log nothing intresting in it.

 

i dont know this bugs other found or not.  

i using very minimal load order for this test. 

[CliftonJD]

8 hours ago, Nonseen said:

Hello!

 

I run 2 very quick test run with PAHE 8.15 SE version. using skyrim SE 1.5.97 with CC addons (best of both downgraded)

Using very minimal mods and MO2

 

first test i used coc guardianstones command to capture some bandits and test few things.

this lead discover the fallowing bugs:

all captured slave joined to fight aginst enemys same way as if i ordered the slave to fight for me

going from exterior to interior or from interior to exterior  casued slave not strip for sex (rape)

 

i done the same test run with alternate start.

detected same anomalys.

 

checked script log nothing intresting in it.

 

i dont know this bugs other found or not.  

i using very minimal load order for this test. 

this version i found some bugs in the combat behaviors as i went to back port it to Le, hopefully the fixes for that behavior are covered in the upcoming bug fixes next update...should be coming soon

[sidfu1]

this topic is missing faction  check so think it breaks giving them the wear this

 

Spoiler

what i should look like fomr other oens

this is for the sultry voice type

i took and took the 8.1.4 version and copied the "your gonna wear this" for that voice into a temp plugin and then boom it worked again.

Edited October 11, 2022 by sidfu1

[EchiiObserver]

On 10/10/2022 at 1:57 AM, CliftonJD said:

this version i found some bugs in the combat behaviors as i went to back port it to Le, hopefully the fixes for that behavior are covered in the upcoming bug fixes next update...should be coming soon

Hello, would be possible for you to enable the bleedout toggle, I'm using Yamete Kudasai a combat mod that also deals with the bleedout mechanic and it seems that they conflict in some way (I'm not sure), if could look into that would be great (Even if it's to confirm that there is no conflict). Thank you for the updated mod, thank you for your time!

[Faustling]

 

I am playing Skyrim SE v 1.5.97 (or trying to), and I have been wrestling with this for weeks. After a PAH update, I started getting a weird bug: Anytime I punished a slave, he got a magic effect of some kind and started to lose health. Nothing stopped it. Following advice from the forum, I uninstalled PAH, SexLab and FNIS and reinstalled them with fresh downloads. Then my saves wouldn’t load. So I figured it was a problem with load order, and started uninstalling all my mods and plug-ins, starting with those at the bottom, then rebooting and then checking to see if the saves would load. After about 15 of each, I got a save to load, but then I had the same problem: I couldn’t punish my slaves and I got this weird error message. Now I don’t know what to do. Uninstalling and reinstalling mods isn’t working, and nothing I do gets rid of the problem. The only thing left would be to strip out ALL my mods and start fresh with a new game, but the same bug would likely reoccur with the same mods, and I can’t figure out which are causing the problem.

[CliftonJD]

On 10/11/2022 at 12:11 PM, sidfu1 said:

this topic is missing faction  check so think it breaks giving them the wear this

 

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what i should look like fomr other oens

this is for the sultry voice type

i took and took the 8.1.4 version and copied the "your gonna wear this" for that voice into a temp plugin and then boom it worked again.

thank you for reporting it, i've now confirmed the dialogue is missing for me as well, but what's odd is that for me the suggested fix has no effect so i'm still investigating a cause or working solution

edit:

found the issue, fixed for next update

 

13 hours ago, FuzileiroGamer said:

Hello, would be possible for you to enable the bleedout toggle, I'm using Yamete Kudasai a combat mod that also deals with the bleedout mechanic and it seems that they conflict in some way (I'm not sure), if could look into that would be great (Even if it's to confirm that there is no conflict). Thank you for the updated mod, thank you for your time!

if the mod didn't already provide out of the box support for pahe, i would look into this:

On 8/3/2022 at 6:21 AM, Scrab said:

Hunter's Pride

Defeating targets yourself is also possible, you will however need to enable a special ability for this first, to avoid defeating targets only when you really want to!

This ability is called 'Hunter's Pride' and while its active, you will be able to defeat targets like anyone else does. Further, you are able to interact with defeated targets (without enabling it), offering you the following options:

1. Robbing: Browse through their Inventory and take what you want. This is considered an Assault (Crime)
2. Rescue: Rescue them from Defeat. This will require you to have a Potion in your inventory. The system will use whichever potion will get this actor closest to full health.
3. Strip: Strip them from all their armor. The armor can be taken from their inventory after
4. Tie Up: Force them into one of multiple positions, replacing the default Bleedout one
5. Capture: Capture and take them with you*
6. Assault: Sexually Assault them. This is considered an Assault (Crime)
7. Execute: Kill them. This is treated as a murder (Crime)
8. Feed (Vampire only): As a vampire, feed on them. This will kill them and is considered a murder (Crime)
9. Paradise Halls: Enslave them through Paradise Halls (if installed)

due to the nature of skse dll plugins tho, it is version specific:

On 8/3/2022 at 6:21 AM, Scrab said:

Requirements

• SkyrimSE Version 1.5.97
• PapyrusUtil
• FNIS
• SexLab or OStim

ae version has an experimental dll posted in the support thread here:

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Faustling said:

 

 

I am playing Skyrim SE v 1.5.97 (or trying to), and I have been wrestling with this for weeks. After a PAH update, I started getting a weird bug: Anytime I punished a slave, he got a magic effect of some kind and started to lose health. Nothing stopped it. Following advice from the forum, I uninstalled PAH, SexLab and FNIS and reinstalled them with fresh downloads. Then my saves wouldn’t load. So I figured it was a problem with load order, and started uninstalling all my mods and plug-ins, starting with those at the bottom, then rebooting and then checking to see if the saves would load. After about 15 of each, I got a save to load, but then I had the same problem: I couldn’t punish my slaves and I got this weird error message. Now I don’t know what to do. Uninstalling and reinstalling mods isn’t working, and nothing I do gets rid of the problem. The only thing left would be to strip out ALL my mods and start fresh with a new game, but the same bug would likely reoccur with the same mods, and I can’t figure out which are causing the problem.

 

dunno what mod manager that is or if your problem lies in the files that don't list version numbers compared to other installations of the same mod that showed version numbers. the fact that your mod manager is listing only 2 versions of pahe and listing both as uninstalled, with other mods that require pahe still running, tells me its not truly uninstalling those mods marked as uninstalled or that you're installing some mods thru manual install...

 

getting your saves to load always has to be secondary priority when debugging a problem in skyrim, always test on a brand new save. you can debug failure to load old saves later, get it working on new saves is the main priority

Edited October 12, 2022 by CliftonJD

[Faustling]

3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

 

dunno what mod manager that is or if your problem lies in the files that don't list version numbers compared to other installations of the same mod that showed version numbers. the fact that your mod manager is listing only 2 versions of pahe and listing both as uninstalled, with other mods that require pahe still running, tells me its not truly uninstalling those mods marked as uninstalled or that you're installing some mods thru manual install...

 

getting your saves to load always has to be secondary priority when debugging a problem in skyrim, always test on a brand new save. you can debug failure to load old saves later, get it working on new saves is the main priority

 

Sorry. I trimmed the screenshot too short. I am using Vortex, which is generally reliable.  I left the old mods in place, though uninstalled, as part of the debugging process, My next step, I suppose, would be to try to get it working again with the older mods. I did create a new game for testing, but I haven't advanced to the point of capturing slaves yet. It's not an easy thing for 1st Level characters to do. So far, the new game does run properly with the existing mods.

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, Faustling said:

 

Sorry. I trimmed the screenshot too short. I am using Vortex, which is generally reliable.  I left the old mods in place, though uninstalled, as part of the debugging process, My next step, I suppose, would be to try to get it working again with the older mods. I did create a new game for testing, but I haven't advanced to the point of capturing slaves yet. It's not an easy thing for 1st Level characters to do. So far, the new game does run properly with the existing mods.

ok, you'll want to double check on that version of papyrus too since its also included with sl

[Faustling]

10 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

ok, you'll want to double check on that version of papyrus too since its also included with sl

Any clue what causes that error message? I keep tripping over it, and it baffles me.

 

Papyrus Version 3.9 is current for Skyrim 1.5.97.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Faustling

[CliftonJD]

1 minute ago, Faustling said:

Any clue what causes that error message? I keep tripping over it, and it baffles me.

can't remember for certain, i think last i heard of it was when se user installed Le version

[Faustling]

37 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

can't remember for certain, i think last i heard of it was when se user installed Le version

 

I created another new game and saved it. On reboot, the error message does not appear, although the (stripped down) load order is identical. Could be some kind of baked-in error. I have no idea what to do about it. Still don't know about the slavery thing.

[kohlteth]

1 hour ago, Faustling said:

 

I created another new game and saved it. On reboot, the error message does not appear, although the (stripped down) load order is identical. Could be some kind of baked-in error. I have no idea what to do about it. Still don't know about the slavery thing.

The error is likely from Sexlabunfiltered that you are running, make sure you are using the older version, not the one for AE that is current. I reseearched and that error is prevalent due to the SE vers needing an earlier vers of sexlab. 

[Faustling]

24 minutes ago, kohlteth said:

The error is likely from Sexlabunfiltered that you are running, make sure you are using the older version, not the one for AE that is current. I reseearched and that error is prevalent due to the SE vers needing an earlier vers of sexlab. 

 

The same message appears whether or not SexLab Unfiltered is installed. It doesn't appear in the new game at all, even though SexLab Unfiltered is still there.

[kohlteth]

3 hours ago, Faustling said:

 

The same message appears whether or not SexLab Unfiltered is installed. It doesn't appear in the new game at all, even though SexLab Unfiltered is still there.

 

 

You maybe better off with the fresh game then sounds like something corrupted the Sexlab Vers # somewhere

 

[Faustling]

Weird things are happening now: I spawned a clone of Hidar Ingmarsen in the basement of Breezehome, and enslaved her.  That went more or less as expected, but I couldn't get her to use any of the bondage furniture I had placed conveniently nearby. (Is there a SetCommandState equivalent in Skyrim?) Maybe my slave skill was too low? I tried spawning someone else, and then a second and a third. Always, the same thing happened: As soon has I enslaved them, I ended up in the Temple of Kynareth and Hidar and the other one had disappeared. (Maybe I reverted to an old save?) Very puzzling. On the other hand, I am getting no error messages and I can whip them normally. I have no idea what's going on or how to fix it.

Edited October 13, 2022 by Faustling

[f95nobody]

Game crashes before reaching main menu with PAHE 8.1.6 (Skyrim SE 1.5.97 with SKSE 2.0.20), no problems with PAHE 8.1.5.

Reproduced with minimal load order:

• Address Library for SKSE Plugins 2.0
• ZaZ 8+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3
• SexLabFrameworkSE_v163
• Devious Devices 5.1
• Paradise Halls Enhanced (PAHE) SSE 8.1.6
• SkyUI 5.2SE

[CliftonJD]

14 hours ago, Faustling said:

 

I created another new game and saved it. On reboot, the error message does not appear, although the (stripped down) load order is identical. Could be some kind of baked-in error. I have no idea what to do about it. Still don't know about the slavery thing.

yes, the error is about sl not liking the upgrade from the version that was previously installed to the version currently installed

[CliftonJD]

3 hours ago, f95nobody said:

Game crashes before reaching main menu with PAHE 8.1.6 (Skyrim SE 1.5.97 with SKSE 2.0.20), no problems with PAHE 8.1.5.

Reproduced with minimal load order:

• Address Library for SKSE Plugins 2.0
• ZaZ 8+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3
• SexLabFrameworkSE_v163
• Devious Devices 5.1
• Paradise Halls Enhanced (PAHE) SSE 8.1.6
• SkyUI 5.2SE

ok, but i haven't posted 8.1.6 for Se yet so you're upgrading from an Se version to an Le version

[f95nobody]

Silly me, sorry must have accidentally followed a link to the LE section ?. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[EchiiObserver]

21 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

thank you for reporting it, i've now confirmed the dialogue is missing for me as well, but what's odd is that for me the suggested fix has no effect so i'm still investigating a cause or working solution

edit:

found the issue, fixed for next update

 

if the mod didn't already provide out of the box support for pahe, i would look into this:

due to the nature of skse dll plugins tho, it is version specific:

ae version has an experimental dll posted in the support thread here:

 

 

 

dunno what mod manager that is or if your problem lies in the files that don't list version numbers compared to other installations of the same mod that showed version numbers. the fact that your mod manager is listing only 2 versions of pahe and listing both as uninstalled, with other mods that require pahe still running, tells me its not truly uninstalling those mods marked as uninstalled or that you're installing some mods thru manual install...

 

getting your saves to load always has to be secondary priority when debugging a problem in skyrim, always test on a brand new save. you can debug failure to load old saves later, get it working on new saves is the main priority

Thank you ,I was the one in the wrong, wasn't using Hunter's Pride. thank you for the repply.

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, f95nobody said:

Silly me, sorry must have accidentally followed a link to the LE section ?. Sorry for the inconvenience.

ok, retry with the Se version now:

 

update 8.1.6:

• fixes the missing "wear this" dialogue for sultry women
• sultry women should now be able to respond to what they're given same as eventoned
• fixes multiple bugs in the combat behaviors
• fixes missing script property
• more dialogue fixes for quest npc's
• added new option to reset or clear the hotkeys for whistle or for mark
• added whistle key to the import/export feature
• (should be in synch with Le now)