Banned from Nexus

[srayesmanll]

Ok seen this topic for a while always avoided it because well, not that I don't have any sympathy for those who have been banned, I'm not. However recently I have been seeing hearing stories about mod authors getting banned because they used a creation kit not downloaded from steam? I actually found the mod the guy made on steam and he says the same thing so how is it Nexus knows he didn't get a legitimate copy and steam doesn't? I mean if he didn't get a legitimate copy from the only place I know of that you can get it how is he able to post his mods there and not get banned or worse arrested/fined for bootlegging/pirating?

 

A lot of times, these guys actually admit to it somewhere.  Usually in the chatroom.  sometimes in the comment section of their mod or in another one.  This is what kills me about nexus - just at a glance I'd say that 90% of the banhammer victims deserve what they get,  They are stupid enough to admit to using pirated games, CK, etc.  Why in the hell would you ADMIT to it?  In these cases they deserved the banhammer for 2 reasons - pirating and stupidity for admitting it.  They are morons.  The problem comes in the other 10%.  There are way too many examples of, shall we say overzealous moderators .  And in some cases, outright viciousness.  And too much glee and joy taken by the moderators in swinging the banhammer. 

 

 

Ragna-rok:  New weapon suggestion:  Darkens Banhammer - a warhammer with the feature of making the victim disappear.  No dead bodies, decapitations, blood.  Just 1 second there, the next second - gone.  It should also add a notebook that keeps track of the victims banhammered and adding a "reason" why they are gone (Pissed me off, played bard song not in the public domain, blacksmithing sword that was just like the one the jarl uses, etc).  It could go further and wipe out their entire existence (house removed, wife divorced, kids gone,...)  Oh, and post it on Nexus .

 

(OK, just found Banhammer of Nocte on Nexus... Damn idea thieves, should report him for stealing my idea before I had it.  Needs to be banned, damn it... )

[Guest Ragna_Rok]

lol ... nice one, but im very close to my active-modding-retirement.

 

the idea with the book though is simply awesome

 

finally i wouldnt even post a mod that makes you craft my orc-turds on nexus. every single view and click thats not adblocked is a gift to those nazis, i cant risk to have thousands of views with maybe a dozen without adblockers... naaah, i stay true to my "NO Nexus"-policy. ever noticed that NEXUS backwards is SUXEN? ... well, it SUX and it originates from ENgland. and backwards means satanic, which is also true, since dork-1 for sure is satans little retarded nephiew, or afterbirth, or stuff like that.

[TheDriedFinger]

Something strange just happened to me over at the Nexus, but not the unexpected when I really thought about it. So, one of my mods has been getting a fair bit of attention over there over the past day or so. It's a follower mod. Two of the screenshots included the following wearing Lia de Russo's outfit, ported by XiNAVRO. A couple of people asked about where to get it, at which point I told them to Google XiNAVRO's Conversions. Then, today, I'm uploading a new version, and a new screenshot. And, as I'm doing so, I notice: "Hey, I thought I had 9 screenshots up here; why are there now only 7". It takes me a few moments to figure out the two that had been deleted, and then I realize why. Obviously, it was the moderators, but I'm surprised they didn't even message me about it. I thought that my mod's page was my mod's page, but apparently not.

[Rayblue]

If screenshots show mods that aren't in Nex, and anyone trying to ask... Better upload screenshots with "legal" mods.

 

[Guest Ragna_Rok]

dude, on nexus youre a click-generator. not more. at least they couldve notified you after removing, like "2 of your screens were removed because blabla"... its things like this that piss me off to levels where i nearly go into a orc-berserker-rage.

 

edit: pretty sure you just moved to their "folks we have to keep an eye on"-list. which means, i bet my ass next time you do that you get bannhammered.

[Guest Ragna_Rok]

sooner or later everyone leaves nexus....

[AwfulArchdemon]

Nexus? What's that? Haven't done anything on nexus lately except PM Tannin. Yay MO! Aside from that, I have no idea what they've been doin' to people over there. LL is getting pretty popular these days though...

[Kendo 2]

Nexus? What's that?

Signature worthy.

[Cloen]

Banned from the chat for writing half of a short phrase in caps lock... so I was yelling. I'm such a criminal scum...

 

 

Even in skyrim they warn you before

 

[myuhinny]

Made a signature

[Cloen]

 

Banned from the chat for writing half of a short phrase in caps lock... so I was yelling. I'm such a criminal scum...

 

 

Even in skyrim they warn you before

 

 

YOU WROTE IN CAPS!!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!!!

 

 

It's making people nervous uhm?

[Kendo 2]

They're just fucking stupid.  Probably got pushed around when they were in high school and now they get to be somebody.  Let them hold a rope and they think they're cowboys.  Funny thing is, they vehemently deny any wrong doing on their part.  According to them, they do not ban people for no reason, they do not bully people, they do not hide posts that prove them wrong, etc.  Too bad veryone knows the truth and that makes the Nexus staff not only look like the power-tripping dorks they are, but it also shows how full of shit they really are.

[Cloen]

It's not so much that you wrote in caps as much as nexus likes to make up completely bullshit excuses to ban people. Because last time i checked typing in all caps wasn't any more or less loud than normal letters.....because.....typed words don't make a sound. Of course in nexus-land caps offends their sensitive eyes, just like bad words and pictures of bewbs. 

 

for example

Bewbs.jpg

 

 

Not that big deal being banned from the chat but that show how crazy a person can be on internet when he has power over someone else.

The phrase wasn't even't all in caps but only half of it and I was writing about something random (I was complaining about my ISP... not against the law the last time I checked).

I guess that's how law work in a dictatorship, they shoot first and ask question later

[Guest xthejester]

I was in chat at the Nexus a few days ago, and some "regular" there went positively bat-shit because a "newcomer" spoiled one of the possible endings for Dishonored.

 

The jag-off threw a fit, demanded that the "offender" be booted from chat for posting spoilers, and threatened to somehow go over the moderators in the room's heads if they didn't act according to his wishes.

 

I piped in and said that was ridiculous, there's no rule posted about spoilers. And for a game that's more than a year old, spoilers are to be expected in an open discussion.

 

Needless to say, the poor kid who "spoiled" the ending left the chat room, and I believe the jerk-off who threw the fit ended up going AFK for a few hours. S/He never actually left the chat, but didn't say anything for the next three hours while I was still there.

 

People in that chat room can be incredibly oversensitive, but for the most part (from what I've seen personally) the in room moderators are pretty sensible. A few of them are actually pretty funny when dealing with pirates. And a couple have even been helpful with troubleshooting questions I've had.

[Guest xthejester]

Yeah, Mica and Grimm are both alright fellas. My experiences with Dante have been pretty positive though too.  Maybe I always have been fortunate enough to catch him in a good mood. But he helped me out a lot when I first started going into the chat room. It expressly states in the chat room rules that it's not for tech support. So if you go in begging for help, you're putting yourself behind the 8-ball with those guys.

 

I got all my help from doing a little social engineering. Schmooze a bit, make or get involved with conversation...then eventually get to your trouble with a "By the way.." type opening.

 

I've seen Dante gloat about some of the bans he's done. But if you look into the situation, he's usually not  just doing it over a power trip. The only ban of late that he's done, that I don't agree with was the fellow who had up the "populated" mod series.

 

As rigid a rule system that the Nexus has...its probably a good thing. This is the internet after all. Things can degenerate really really quickly if allowed to go unchecked. Unfortunately, sometimes there will be instances where people are treated a great deal more harshly than they really deserve.

[Guest]

I've seen Dante gloat about some of the bans he's done. But if you look into the situation, he's usually not  just doing it over a power trip. The only ban of late that he's done, that I don't agree with was the fellow who had up the "populated" mod series.

 

Here almost everyone has a dinamic ip, I know very little about the technical stuff behind this subject but I always wondered how it is possible for a website banning us by ip.

So the only explanation I have for myself about it is the fact they only could "assume" Savini was Erkeil and ban without thinking twice. Some people prefer saying you are guilty until you prove your innocence, other people say you are innocent until there are proofs you are guilty, Nexus policies seem to be in the first group.

[Guest xthejester]

 

I've seen Dante gloat about some of the bans he's done. But if you look into the situation, he's usually not  just doing it over a power trip. The only ban of late that he's done, that I don't agree with was the fellow who had up the "populated" mod series.

 

Here almost everyone has a dinamic ip, I know very little about the technical stuff behind this subject but I always wondered how it is possible for a website banning us by ip.

So the only explanation I have for myself about it is the fact they only could "assume" Savini was Erkeil and ban without thinking twice. Some people prefer saying you are guilty until you prove your innocence, other people say you are innocent until there are proofs you are guilty, Nexus policies seem to be in the first group.

 

 

I don't think that's necessarily the case for all the moderators.

 

I was actually privy to one case where the moderators Millenia and micalove were arguing about whether or not a mod for fallout was an illegal port from another game.  The mod was for some kind of assault rifle.

 

Mica was 99% sure it was a port, but Mill and a few others, myself included, took a look around to see if it matched up with anything posted anywhere else. Eventually Mill...who is a resource developer in his own right, loaded the mod into some kind of program...blender or something, and picked apart all the flaws, proving it was probably home made.

 

So they determined the modder hadn't done anything wrong.

 

Most of the bans I've seen were for admitting to piracy. Only a few were for porting, and I haven't been there for a ban due to multiple accounts.

 

But the exchange I saw, and was partially involved in, is proof enough for me that not all the bans are arbitrary.

[srayesmanll]

 

I've seen Dante gloat about some of the bans he's done. But if you look into the situation, he's usually not  just doing it over a power trip. The only ban of late that he's done, that I don't agree with was the fellow who had up the "populated" mod series.

 

Here almost everyone has a dinamic ip, I know very little about the technical stuff behind this subject but I always wondered how it is possible for a website banning us by ip.

So the only explanation I have for myself about it is the fact they only could "assume" Savini was Erkeil and ban without thinking twice. Some people prefer saying you are guilty until you prove your innocence, other people say you are innocent until there are proofs you are guilty, Nexus policies seem to be in the first group.

 

 

I mentioned this before, but the problem with Savini's situation was the he started reposting Erkeils mods directly.  The populated series was fine, but when he started posting some of Erkeil's old mods, that's when the moderators took notice.  They assumed RS was Erkeil because of the reposting, and the Banhammer of Darken was swung.  Reposting of a banned authors work is a hammerable offense in the Nexus world in most cases, so they could have banned just for that alone.  They just made the assumption Erkeil=Savini.

 

My real problem is with initial banning of Erkeil.  The stated reason for the ban was that Erkeil created multiple accounts (another Nexus no-no) to get his mods voted up.  So they banned him.  Strangely enough, 83Willow did this exact same thing as well and was given a 2-3 month time-out, not an outright ban (glancing blow with the banhammer, i guess ).  And then 83Willow did something else hammerable, yet got another slap on the wrist.  Supporter membership has it's privileges I guess .  That inconsistency is what is annoying - if Erkeil was banned, so should 83Willow.  Of course, there may have been more behind-the-scenes stuff between Erkeil and Nexus that we never saw that escalated it to a full ban rather than a 83Willow naughty finger wag, but we'll never really know.

[Kendo 2]

BlackBlossom: proven mod thief (ban), uploads DLC content that makes the DLC it is based off of not required (ban), uploads FO3 content that is not in the NV BSAs to Nexus New Vegas (ban).  YET she is still there.  So much for the 'three strikes rule'.  Oh she did in fact get banned at one time, and she was reinstated within a week and the content she stole was left in place.  It took complaints from the original authors to get the mods removed.  Who was the moderator that handled all of this?  Dante, of course.

 

At one time there was a serious douche named dezdimona stalking Nexus.  The dude was a proven troll and just a tool in general.  He eventually got himself banned for flaming and trolling (just like he had on every other forum he had contaminated).  The staff made a huge production of it and there was a general uproar from all the dezdimona fanboys.  After all of that calmed down dezdimona skulked back in to Nexus as 'Blue Morphos'.  The staff knew about it.  If you bother to look at those accounts at Nexus, neither of them are banned.  Dezdimona Troll Supreme who attacked the staff in the open fourms is NOT banned.  The Blue Morphos sock puppet account to bypass the ban is still active too.  Dark0ne himself oversaw that train wreck.

 

So it is in fact okay to have two active accounts at Nexus.  It is okay to be a mod thief too.  Nexus hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Guest]

It could be an offense, as you want, but there's no explicit rule that tells you to not upload content when an author was banned (excluding the last one that I sum up with something like "ok I'll use these rules depending by my mood"). Considering that the mod itself had no bannable content in fact it was still online until Erkeil requested to remove it, considering that Savini had authorization from Erkeil, the only plausible explanation I can find is "ok I can't ban your IP so I ban the other guy cos I assume it is you". Some people prefer saying you are guilty until you prove your innocence. Why other people are not banned for the same reason could simply be because there are a lot of users, luck for those who succeed on it and unluck for those who are banned. It doesn't sound strange for me that an author with a lot of endorsements is often observed

[myuhinny]

I guess it all depends where a person is positioned in front of the owner/mods. Please Sir can I have some more. Whoever greases the most is the winner!!!

[Guest Ragna_Rok]

oooops... someone got a warning for playing vigilante... hm. so, in case you report a mod that has ripped content and is hosted on nexus, first ensure its not very famous and doesnt generate cash. if it does, and you report it, you get a warning. i really hope that someone sues those bastards once.

 

does anyone know if its still lucas arts that has the rights to star-wars stuff?

[Kendo 2]

oooops... someone got a warning for playing vigilante... hm. so, in case you report a mod that has ripped content and is hosted on nexus, first ensure its not very famous and doesnt generate cash. if it does, and you report it, you get a warning.

I friend of mine over at Nexus reported a mod that blantantly ripped Daz/Poser content and added it to Skyrim.  The British friend of mine reported the file and the response he got from the staff was 'prove it'.  He did, but evidently images of the files in question taken directly from Renderosity weren't enough, since the staff threatened to ban said friend if he ever made another 'false report'.  The result?  He doesn't report ANYTHING anymore.  If he had known the uploader he reported was friends with the staff member that responded he wouldn't have bothered to begin with.  That's how he put it to me, anyway.

 

And they banned Krista for her Lady Body files since they used Daz/Poser content and SHE has a devs licence that ALLOWS her to use the files.

 

Nexus is a 'great community', provided you do not post, comment, report or otherwise participate...

[unscwupulous]

 

oooops... someone got a warning for playing vigilante... hm. so, in case you report a mod that has ripped content and is hosted on nexus, first ensure its not very famous and doesnt generate cash. if it does, and you report it, you get a warning.

I friend of mine over at Nexus reported a mod that blantantly ripped Daz/Poser content and added it to Skyrim.  The British friend of mine reported the file and the response he got from the staff was 'prove it'.  He did, but evidently images of the files in question taken directly from Renderosity weren't enough, since the staff threatened to ban said friend if he ever made another 'false report'.  The result?  He doesn't report ANYTHING anymore.  If he had known the uploader he reported was friends with the staff member that responded he wouldn't have bothered to begin with.  That's how he put it to me, anyway.

 

And they banned Krista for her Lady Body files since they used Daz/Poser content and SHE has a devs licence that ALLOWS her to use the files.

 

Nexus is a 'great community', provided you do not post, comment, report or otherwise participate...

 

 

Well, unless you are very well trusted by them they expect you to send them files to compare with (which puts the reporter in breach of copyright  )

It's so obvious, they need fewer brown-nosers (I've never had any problem with that Jim_uk dude but man, he's got to be nexus boot licker number one) and more people who actually mod (more people with max or blender experience especially if they want to catch people out with rips/ports)

 

As for Krista, going to have to disagree.  The Daz licence that she "claims" to own is about as valid as Beth owning peoples model and texture files just because they've appeared in a mod.  At best, all it could cover is stuff sold by Daz3d also marked as created by Daz3d (about 15% of the stuff on their site).  The people behind Poser are a whole different company too.

 

I agree with the last sentence 100% though

[Guest Mogie56]

You may use DAZ content in your works, You may also SHOW your works as rendered images. BUT you may NOT distribute said content in any manner what so ever, it MUST stay on your computer or (network for collaborative work only). That is there license agreement for anything you buy from DAZ3D. All content stays on the computer that belongs to the one that bought the program and content period. And still people just love to read it in any other way possible if it is something they like by a well known modder such as Krista. It is still copyrighted material, content.