ElectricSheep Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Something I always noticed at Nexus, those with the most endorsements (in the image share) "usually" had the largest friends lists. I noticed that long ago, even before Skyrim was released. The Imageshare section is basically one big circlejerk - as is the whole Nexus.
ratrace Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 OK how many of you have sock puppet accounts here trying to up your "like" count?????? I can only say that I don't have a sock puppet anywhere, and I can't understand someone boosting his endorsements with that. What the fuck is so important about being endorsed? It's all about modding a game, and in some spots on the net it seems like all of that having become some kind of religious service.
Guest Mogie56 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 OK how many of you have sock puppet accounts here trying to up your "like" count?????? I can only say that I don't have a sock puppet anywhere, and I can't understand someone boosting his endorsements with that. What the fuck is so important about being endorsed? It's all about modding a game, and in some spots on the net it seems like all of that having become some kind of religious service. It's called ego stroking, a need to be liked or thought of higher then others, compensation. but the sentence you quoted was meant in jest. which I figure is why there is a cap on likes per day. don't need the extra drama of the nexus spilling over here.
ratrace Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 It's called ego stroking, a need to be liked or thought of higher then others, compensation. Yes, and that's exactly the point I don't get. I have problems to sympathize, so to speak. We all have a "real life", and that should be a stable foundation to compensate for anything that happens in any forum anywhere on the net. The net's full of nicknamed projections of what you are and feel. Only very few persons who communicate on the net know each other personally. On the Nexus these projections give a virtual thumbs up, and that gives a rewarding feeling to a living, breathing human being? How bleak can a life be that so much intrinsic value is put in that kind of bullshit? So yes, endorsements are not only worthless, but a stress factor for those who focus too much on them.
Guest Ragna_Rok Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Yes, and that's exactly the point I don't get. I have problems to sympathize, so to speak. We all have a "real life", and that should be a stable foundation to compensate for anything that happens in any forum anywhere on the net. The net's full of nicknamed projections of what you are and feel. Only very few persons who communicate on the net know each other personally. On the Nexus these projections give a virtual thumbs up, and that gives a rewarding feeling to a living, breathing human being? How bleak can a life be that so much intrinsic value is put in that kind of bullshit? So yes, endorsements are not only worthless, but a stress factor for those who focus too much on them. FUCK ... i reached my daily quota, so, feel "Liked" ... *gives a cookie*
Guest Mogie56 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Hey, I used to have a real life....then I took a nexus in the knee.....must...keep....adblock...alive.... if you have to give a like, give it to someone that deserves it....in the "Show Your Skyrim Counterpart" thread. or maybe this ^^^^ cough...Modder...cough above me
UnEvenSteven Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Something I always noticed at Nexus, those with the most endorsements (in the image share) "usually" had the largest friends lists. I noticed that long ago, even before Skyrim was released. The Imageshare section is basically one big circlejerk - as is the whole Nexus. The New Vegas Image Share section has definitely become one big ego-stroking circle-jerk. There's a group that's ready to jerk-off over each other's images and stories when they're posted and some will comment with those damned annoying "Woof Woof","Bullseye", etc. images. The only story that's somewhat interesting is jonas's, the other one by some "worm" is rather incoherent and painful to read at times because of the dialog. /mini-rant off
myuhinny Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 I have a sock puppet account but not here. The sock puppet accounts that I have were for another site and I had them because I liked playing with myself alone. It was for a multiplayer rpg type game I ran 3 accounts at one time on one browser using split browser. Mostly because I didn't *always* want to run around with other people because some are asses/idiots/trolls and it also came in handy when no one from the fl was on. There were nothing saying that a person couldn't and I think they had it that way thinking that they might get you to buy more stuff for each player that you have. *Something I always noticed at Nexus, those with the most endorsements (in the image share) "usually" had the largest friends lists. Could also mean they have the largest list of fake accounts as well. It wouldn't be the first time sometime padded their stuff with fake accounts and such.
ElectricSheep Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 These are not fakes, it goes like this: you like somebody's screenshot and post a comment, he/she adds you to the list and from now on notifies you every time a new pic is posted. In return, the author likes your stuff should you submit anything. As I said, it's a circle jerk party.
unscwupulous Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 These are not fakes, it goes like this: you like somebody's screenshot and post a comment, he/she adds you to the list and from now on notifies you every time a new pic is posted. In return, the author likes your stuff should you submit anything. As I said, it's a circle jerk party. Indeed. I can sympathise with the trap aspect of it though, born out of a sense of politeness in some ways. I try to be as honest as I can and if somebody has liked something I've done not just automatically throw a like back (and would hope it worked vice versa). With peoples screenies for instance, I might appreciate the quality and effort but in terms of pure aesthetics, the like is going to be dependant purely upon whether it complements my own tastes. It's bizarre but I guess expected that the top rated screens can be pretty much locked down to a small circle like this. Just one of the many reasons why I avoid the place like a bad rash.
Kendo 2 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 When I uploaded screenshots to Nexus it always irked me. It didn't matter if I spent hours with a custom image space and new lights. I didn't matter that I used the most attractive toons I could make (and I make the best looking girls in FO3 or NV). It didn't matter how much effort I put into a screenshot. Without fail, someone would flood the image share after I posted and all they bothered to do was use some fucked up ENB shit with butt-ass ugly Beware of Girl character textures and a vanilla face preset. And people would slobber all over it. There is no accounting for tastes at Nexus. By and large, the plebes there are fucking morons. They have no understanding of what an artistic shot is. Maybe that's why Luchaire walked away Nexus image share, since Luchi does the best screen work of anyone around and it was almost always buried in an avalanche of SHIT screenshots endorsed by a clique Luchi wasn't a part of.
ElectricSheep Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 I know that well from my own experience; ironically some of my best shots never made it beyond +10, while some generic artsy one received praise. Generally speaking, if you want to make career on the nexus you need to be populist: contribute piss-poor huge boobs stuff, fellate modders with gratuitous comments, make 'friends' on every occasion, NEVER be negative about anything. Few weeks later you're gonna be a star.
Captain Cobra Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Stating this for the record: All ENBs are shit.
Kendo 2 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Stating this for the record: All ENBs are shit. Agreed. Along with super-duper-fake hi-rez retexts. Shit mods are the bread and butter of downloaders who don't know any better.
Rayblue Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Sure we can diss most ENBs, except those made by Bronze (because his presets doesn't make you blind, kill your eyes or your framerate, or require a complete hardware upgrade). As for the screencap drama, it's not just that kind of mindless fandom likewhoring shit in the Nex but also in, say, Deviantart or just about any site that shares screencaps, but then some who post screencaps don't give a flying fuck about endorsements, because even a single comment or endorse is enough.
CoxcombCornking Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 It's possible to compare any discussion, or thread, in which a majority consistently agree, as a "circle jerk" of sorts. Even this thread. As far as the Nexus image sharing goes, yeah it does seem a little bit dense with the like-for-likes-sake phenomena, full of lots of random pics that look like accidental screen captures; but it's not really intended to be fine art museum exhibit, now is it. Put up an image there, and it will get buried in under 24 hours. I sporadically put pics up on that share, usually just to get some reasonable feedback, or suggestion for some changes. Sometimes, I'm just giddy about a particular homemade npc, and want to share it. In turn, if I do like a pic, either aesthetically, or for it's silliness, I might give it a thumbs-up, or drop a comment/suggestion. When it comes to little written segments which may accompany one of my submitted pics, it's just caption box filler. It's not literature. Sometimes you get a funny idea, or something you think may be of enjoyment to others, and you share it. It's still not literature. None of my stuff is, was, or ever will be intended to offend, outrage, or objectify anyone. That's my two cents.
Guest Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Stating this for the record: All ENBs are shit. Agreed. Along with super-duper-fake hi-rez retexts. Shit mods are the bread and butter of downloaders who don't know any better. Mr Kendo, please explain this statement for the simpleton downloaders like me need to be informed (I'm terrible at writing formally, aren't i?=.=)
Kendo 2 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Mr Kendo, please explain this statement for the simpleton downloaders like me need to be informed (I'm terrible at writing formally, aren't i?=.=) M'kay...I don't know if you're flame-baiting me or not...Not that it really matters. SHIT MODS ENBs There are settings in the game loaders and in the ini's that will do exactly what these ENB things do. Reading a good tweak guide and following the instructions will enable all sorts of marvelous things. Bloom, HDR, sharpening, depth of field, LOD, lens decal FX, tonal mapping, shadow depth and detail, sun rays, water reflections, etc. can ALL be done (depending on the game) without a freak'n mod. Doing it yourself will prevent things like FRP hits and overclocking too. And most of these ENB things don't address the base mechanics of the game meshes themselves. Everything has a 'mesh'. The sky, light, everything...not just clutter and buildings and people. Creating a text.doc isn't going to make them perform better and stacking crap on top of them is pointless. Mostly these ENBs change the color of the game. That can be done with simple Image Space and Audio Region tweaks. 30 minutes of reading tutorials can accomplish the same thing. Now, there are real ENBs. These are usually made by the game devs themselves or other graphic artists. They have their own websites because they address a wide variety of games. You're NOT going to find them on fuck-tard Nexus and they ARE NOT FREE. Hi-Rez/Hi-Detail Retextures Most of these are total fakes. Simply opening up a texture in Photoshop or GIMP, resizing it and increasing the sharpness/contrast IS NOT Hi-Rez. That is just a BIG freak'n image and a memory hawg. They don't do anything regular game textures don't do. (Someone needs to tell BlackBlossom and her clueless fans this.) Here's a tip on how to avoid that kind of trash; Open the texture in a dds viewer, zoom in to where you can see individual pixels. If the pixel field is flooded with large blocks of one color IT IS NOT 'hi-rez'. It has just been resized. There is no way to take an existing texture and make it 'hi-rez'. It can be used as a foundation for UV purposes but it STILL has to be repainted, usually by hand or with a paint book. Skyrim Nexus is ripe with these USELESS mods, and downloaders 'who don't know any better' download and endorse the SHIT out of them. The joke is on the downloaders. They look like Wild West fools buying snake oil at a traveling medicine show. They don't know what they are buying and they don't know what they're talking about when they sing its praises. Another 'joke' is most of these retexts use the vanilla normal maps. Kinda stupid to make a super-duper sized diffused map and use a regular out-of-the-box normal map. And truth be known, to make really nice hi-rez normals they need to be baked from the meshes themselves in Blender or 3DMax. Very few people actually do this aside from body modders because of the learning curve and the time involved. It isn't something someone like BlackBlossom and the other Nexus Retext-Gurus can do, since it takes more than 5 minutes to make. This is especially true for Skyrim. That answer your question?
Kendo 2 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 You're assuming the people who make these mods can actually maneuver in a 3d program. That would be kinda hard to do for the early days of Skyrim when most of the lame excuses for mods and modders flooded Nexus with retexts. There wasn't any 3d support for Skyrim at that time. Nifscope couldn't open the meshes, much less Blender or 3DMax. Even now, baking from a Skyrim mesh is a pain in the ass. You can look at the add-on textures for skyrim in the official hi-rez pack. THEY are hi-rez.
ToxicKetchup Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Stating this for the record: All ENBs are shit. I disagree; Blackout ENB makes New Vegas look a hundred times better.
Kendo 2 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Blackout does little tricks anyone can do. It's nothing special or ground-breaking. It isn't a real ENB, it's a color mod.
Jezzerat Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Stating this for the record: All ENBs are shit. Agreed. Along with super-duper-fake hi-rez retexts. Shit mods are the bread and butter of downloaders who don't know any better. *eyeroll*
Kendo 2 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Stating this for the record: All ENBs are shit. Agreed. Along with super-duper-fake hi-rez retexts. Shit mods are the bread and butter of downloaders who don't know any better. *eyeroll* Yeah, I know, huh? I'm always amazed at what people will download and endorse. I roll my eyes a lot too.
Rayblue Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I don't know, but anyone wanting to fight monsters shouldn't wind up as one of them. Also: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks
Kendo 2 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I don't know, but anyone wanting to fight monsters shouldn't wind up as one of them. Also: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks Just because a mod is popular doesn't make it 'good' by default. It means the people who download a shit mod and then praise it are dupes. It wasn't 'good' to begin with. If pointing out that makes me a villian, so be it. I made an off-hand reply to cobra and someone wanted 'an explanation'. I gave it in detail only to be baited AGAIN. whud-ever. At 800x magnification on gimp it all looks grainy but i did notice the files for some of the high res mods (2K) were about ten times larger than most of the textures i looked at from the skyrim high-res DLC's ( i think they are 1k only, right?). As for normal mapping i just discovered how much of a difference a custom normal can make in the quality of a re-texture. I've been thinking about going through the few mods i have posted here and reposting them with custom normals but i want my skills at making them to be better before i make the jump, but without people pointing out what normals can really do for a texture i would have been rather oblivious. Perfectly reasonable normals can be made in GIMP by removing the alpha layer, desaturating the image to gray and adjusting the bump maps. That's what I do. For more detailed normals, baking is the way to go. If a diffused texture doesn't need it then why go through the trouble? No reason to bake and shake if you don't need to. IMO.
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