Sexlab Survival

[Lupine00]

9 hours ago, tuxagent7 said:

I got a suggestion for Sexlab Survival, what about a Wear and Tear system.

A teeny little wear & tear system ... won't take long to add ... ask @gooser about that  

You might want to just install Apropos2?

 

 

I'm pretty sure that Monoman knows all about vlkSexLife, as SLA and its behaviours are ... a topic ... 

 

Maybe somebody else will release a replacement for SLA though?

[Terrafide]

Pretty awesome mod... Thanks for this!

 

Unfortunately had to uninstall for now until I figure out how to  turn off getting an arm binder upon entering or leaving a city.  Turned off all devious settings in the MCM and still no matter whether entering or leaving they arm bind me and kick me out of the city.  This is on a new game with all licenses. Reload save attempt to pay the toll, and get stopped and armbound lol 

 

Also noticed that the MCM for this mod was under Sexlab Survival. When i completely restarted the game, Sexlab survival MCM is gone,, and now all settings for this mod  are under Devious Devices expansion... Weird 

[Lupine00]

47 minutes ago, Terrafide said:

Also noticed that the MCM for this mod was under Sexlab Survival. When i completely restarted the game, Sexlab survival MCM is gone,, and now all settings for this mod  are under Devious Devices expansion... Weird 

That would suggest that your install is broken. Was NMM involved by any chance?

[Terrafide]

45 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

That would suggest that your install is broken. Was NMM involved by any chance?

Well....... as I hate to admit.. lol Yep

Thanks for that, Ill try a manual install.. 

[Monoman1]

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

1.) add more recruitable followers or even just the ability to hire a guard to be a follower.

I don't know if that's a good idea. I can see it leading to problems. Like them trying to arrest you when you've a bounty. But maybe that's the idea? Which is.... interesting but I don't know - they could end up being hostile to you and whatnot. 

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

2.) an option where you have to have a man to escort you so men only followers.

Hmm. Maybe I can separate the escort list into male/female. I'll think about it. 

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

3.) a carry weight limit option so your carry weight never goes over a certain threshold like you have speed so you cant carry so much stuff.

Player.ModAv CarryWeight -150

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

4.) a humiliation scene if you are caught avoiding a toll they will tie you up or put you in a pillory or something so many furnitrues that haven't been used something probably different where they keep you there for a certain amount of time while npc's will come up and spank you

Not opposed to the idea but I've a couple of qualms about it. 

1. Should probably be used as punishment for something else as getting caught evading the toll is pretty punishing as it is. 

2. It needs to be... not boring... I've often found these scenes boring. Autopilot to furniture. Sit there and wait for an hour. I can increase timescale but that has potential to lead to problems. (OnGameTimeUpdates run more frequently which really isn't something you want in the middle of fps sinking busy towns)

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

5.) bathing in skyrm if say you're 100% dirty or somethign they will not notice you as much or they charge extra for the toll or they wont let you in until you bathe.

Hmm. I can potentially do the first one. Reduce the distance guards spot you at when you're >60% dirty. Would of course make buying/selling items less profitable. So it has a trade-off at least. 

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

EDIT: Okay so more on the idea about hiring guards like you could go into the guard house and talk to that one guy that provides licences you could ask him to contract a guard or mercenary for you to follow you so this way there is always an option to have an escort.

In my game the inns are choc full of followers so I forget that in vanilla you might not be able to find a follower to leave town. So that's maybe something I will look at. 

 

@tuxagent7

I dunno. There are a good few wear and tear mods around. One for survival would sort of makes sense I suppose. I do like the lube idea though

10 hours ago, ttpt said:

It's why I think another mcm toggle for that option would be nice, I have no interest in using devious followers and the way I play and the mods I have, anything that happens to me should happen to followers too, it's why I only started using the licensing system once it included followers and also the reason that while MWA looks like an improvement on loot and degradation it just wouldn't work on my setup. Basically getting split from them gives me basically no incentive to interact with the feature.

Adding an mcm toggle would take a couple of mins. But there's absolutely no follower handling at all in the kennel so it'd have to be done from scratch. 

6 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Maybe somebody else will release a replacement for SLA though?

Now who's being coy? 

5 hours ago, Terrafide said:

Unfortunately had to uninstall for now until I figure out how to  turn off getting an arm binder upon entering or leaving a city.  Turned off all devious settings in the MCM and still no matter whether entering or leaving they arm bind me and kick me out of the city.  This is on a new game with all licenses. Reload save attempt to pay the toll, and get stopped and armbound lol 

What you describe is a part of the punishment for avoiding the toll (leaving town without paying the toll and then getting caught when you return). It's not a part of the licence system I mean. 

5 hours ago, Terrafide said:

Also noticed that the MCM for this mod was under Sexlab Survival. When i completely restarted the game, Sexlab survival MCM is gone,, and now all settings for this mod  are under Devious Devices expansion... Weird

You mean the title at the top of the screen after you enter the 'Sexlab Survival' Mcm? I've also noticed this but I haven't the faintest idea what causes it. But my mcm is not broken even with this problem. It appears to be just a visual bug. 

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Now who's being coy?

Well... I never know what other people are doing.

It is likely I will have something sooner rather than later myself.

Currently working on the C++ side. At this time not sure whether to release without new arousal mechanics, or wait until they are done.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

I don't know if that's a good idea. I can see it leading to problems. Like them trying to arrest you when you've a bounty. But maybe that's the idea? Which is.... interesting but I don't know - they could end up being hostile to you and whatnot. 

How about a guard-like character - who comes with some guard-like dialog, and starts with guard gear.

There might be more than one...

 

Now I'm thinking of those two comedy guys from SLAV that work for the temple of Dibella...

 

And they could just be followers, but if you have DF, maybe also Devious Followers?

Without DF, SLS could still make them charge you money periodically - with a contract like a license - and if you can't pay, then they expect some compensation and if you refuse THEN they arrest you? (So much like a license that it could cut and paste some of the code?)

 

And they might arrest at other times, such as if you dodge a toll, or try to hand them contraband.

Also that they could impose the "can't afford the toll" demands on you even if you aren't going through a toll gate.

 

I guess the main appeal of these characters is that they would be an assigned guard escort, and should have a bunch of abusive dialogs, in the SLS guard style, with a tone that suggests your freedom is very much at their discretion.

 

e.g.

"You don't have a license for that missy. I'm afraid I'm going to have to take you in. Don't cry now. It's for your own good."

"You're not planning on leaving town again are you Sweetroll? It would be better for everyone if you put those silly ideas of adventure out of your head."

"You've wasted enough of my valuable time. The law doesn't look favourably on foolish women who can't pay their escort fees."

"Enough is enough. I'm going to stick you under my arm and carry you back to <insert walled town here> kicking and screaming."

"There's a job waiting for you at <insert inn here>. That's where you're headed. By the time they're done with you there, you'll know your place."

"... [mutters] ... collared and naked, preferably."

 

Then you could hand them illegal items, and get ported straight back to <wherever>, but with all your contraband confiscated, and a fine, and perhaps some nice devices to wear?

 

Or you could go the full Inte, and drag the player back to town on a leash, while the NPC makes little detours down every bit of broken navmesh in the game.

If it was optional, I'm sure a lot of people would love it, despite the poor pathing. (Or just hand you over to SD+, if available, making the "guard" your master).

 

But, as with all these random suggestions, I'm not suggesting you do anything unless you think it would be fun for you.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

You mean the title at the top of the screen after you enter the 'Sexlab Survival' Mcm? I've also noticed this but I haven't the faintest idea what causes it. But my mcm is not broken even with this problem. It appears to be just a visual bug. 

I thought he meant he was seeing this on the left in the main Mod Configuration menu.

 

Never noticed the other issue in SLS myself, but it would likely be due to setting the ModName property incorrectly somewhere?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I don't know if that's a good idea. I can see it leading to problems. Like them trying to arrest you when you've a bounty. But maybe that's the idea? Which is.... interesting but I don't know - they could end up being hostile to you and whatnot. 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

In my game the inns are choc full of followers so I forget that in vanilla you might not be able to find a follower to leave town. So that's maybe something I will look at. 

You're right i didn't think about that but maybe they're just hired freelance guards not actual guards that will send you to prison i have no followers at al in the beginning really >_> i am really only interested in male followers anyway so  i absolutely love the idea for an escort with this mod. most of my followers are vampire followers and i make them myself ;3

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Hmm. Maybe I can separate the escort list into male/female. I'll think about it. 

That would totally be awesome!

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Player.ModAv CarryWeight -150

oh i know lol  i could do that too I use skytweak so i can change the settings its just annoying to keep doing it. :3 i never really cared before but again your mod along with devious followers makes me want to earn money for the liscenses etc and to pay off my follower and last resort it prostitution which i dont want to do >> so i just steal stuff

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Not opposed to the idea but I've a couple of qualms about it. 

1. Should probably be used as punishment for something else as getting caught evading the toll is pretty punishing as it is. 

2. It needs to be... not boring... I've often found these scenes boring. Autopilot to furniture. Sit there and wait for an hour. I can increase timescale but that has potential to lead to problems. (OnGameTimeUpdates run more frequently which really isn't something you want in the middle of fps sinking busy towns)

yea you're totally right about that i just figured it wouldn't last that long maybe like if you get spanked 10 times while in the furniture you'll be released and maybe have a debuff of being humiliated or something, It could work if its short and sweet as long as you're not having to wait there all day like in prison overhaul.

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Hmm. I can potentially do the first one. Reduce the distance guards spot you at when you're >60% dirty. Would of course make buying/selling items less profitable. So it has a trade-off at least. 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Hmm. Maybe I can separate the escort list into male/female. I'll think about it. 

yay I think they would be fun little features if you have time to make them i am sure you're busy with alot of suggestions hehe

 

Also last thing, I saw that you use RND i think it was I would try and give eatingsleepingdrinking if you haven't already its really really good not saying to add anything for the mod i just know that i had RND for along time but eatingsleepingdrinking has animations for everysingle food type and you can drink from streams and even fill empy bottles up form the streams. I mean it changed my mind when i tried it and i loved rnd but if you dont have time its just a recommendation from me. Couple of features is it has its own headtracking feature and the bathing feature is completely disables and works with bathing in skyrim so.

 

also i did want to mention that again they are just suggestions so dont add them unless its something you want too I am perfectly fine with none of my suggestions making it in but i was inspired and felt i should at least mention them, also burnout is a bummer and i dont want you getting to stressed over anything I just felt I should let you know thanks again for the mod! 

 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

How about a guard-like character - who comes with some guard-like dialog, and starts with guard gear.

There might be more than one...

Sure. Guard-like would work. Build a leveled list with disposable guards-likes and pull one from the list as an escort. If they get killed while outside -> queue punishment of some sorts. 

"Another good man dead because of your fantasy of being an adventurer stupid girl"

 

Perhaps paying more for the escort will grant you a higher level escort. 

 

It IS interesting but it sounds like a lot of work. We'll see is all I'll say for now. 

 

Next update will mostly focus on bug fixes and polishing up existing features. Regarding follower contraband, I think I've, more or less, decided to allow your follower to carry anything she has equipped. The weakness with this system is that potentially you can get her to carry stuff that technically isn't her equipment but she just didn't have something in that slot anyway. But I think it'll 'train your brain' enough to the point that you just won't bother giving contraband to your follower anyway in the end. But at least this will allow you to change her equipment then anything not equipped that you don't have a licence for is dumped back at you. I've also done licence discounts based on your faction ranks. The college and companions were no trouble at all. The civil war is another story... jesus those quests are difficult to follow. And then there's chances for A) a truce? I never knew about this option. lol and B) To switch sides mid campaign.... It's been so long since I actually played that questline. 

I really don't know if it'll work as intended but we'll see.

2 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I thought he meant he was seeing this on the left in the main Mod Configuration menu.

I'm pretty sure he means the title at center-top. It's pretty odd. I've double & treble checked that property. Thought I was going mad. Doesn't seem to do any harm though and doesn't always happen, so I haven't dug any deeper. 

45 minutes ago, Risamei said:

yea you're totally right about that i just figured it wouldn't last that long maybe like if you get spanked 10 times while in the furniture you'll be released and maybe have a debuff of being humiliated or something, It could work if its short and sweet as long as you're not having to wait there all day like in prison overhaul.

Perhaps as a punishment for getting your 'guard-like' escort killed

45 minutes ago, Risamei said:

Also last thing, I saw that you use RND i think it was I would try and give eatingsleepingdrinking

Yea, someone suggested it earlier. I might take a look if I have time. But really depends on how easy it'll be to integrate. 

[tualmaril]

Are there going to be more kennel style places added ?

[Monoman1]

19 minutes ago, tualmaril said:

Are there going to be more kennel style places added ?

More are *planned* but they probably won't be anything like the kennel in whiterun. I'd like each one to have a different theme. But they'll all be pretty undesirable places to sleep. (At least I would have thought they'd be undesirable. Turns out they're very popular :P)

Big job though. So won't be for a while at least. 

[tualmaril]

16 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

More are *planned* but they probably won't be anything like the kennel in whiterun. I'd like each one to have a different theme. But they'll all be pretty undesirable places to sleep. (At least I would have thought they'd be undesirable. Turns out they're very popular :P)

Big job though. So won't be for a while at least. 

Sounds awsome. Keep up the amazing work.

[tuxagent7]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I dunno. There are a good few wear and tear mods around. One for survival would sort of makes sense I suppose. I do like the lube idea though

No problem Monoman !

 

I have decided to try and use VlakLife with his wear and tear so another new game for me can't believe i have never finished the game yet

 

@Lupine00 yeah i tried apropos2 and it is surely a well crafted mod but wasn't for me

 

 

[Lupine00]

17 minutes ago, tuxagent7 said:

I have decided to try and use VlakLife with his wear and tear so another new game for me can't believe i have never finished the game yet

I used to use vlk, but stopped using it.

Partly because it needed patching for SLSO.

Partly because I wanted to write support for W&T for SLD and nobody seemed to use vlk.

 

If you look on the vlk forum, you can find a fixed translation file from me  

 

[tuxagent7]

13 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

If you look on the vlk forum, you can find a fixed translation file from me  

Cool ! thank you i will download it and install it

 

I have just discovered it when reading the dragonborn in distress thread

 

It seems to do what i want SL aroused to be able to do and seems to be stable from the little i read.

 

There also the bonus of the wear and tear that he included.

 

I think it's the name that is why there is not a lot of users... it should be called something else

 

 

 

[tuxagent7]

And also that there wasn't a lot of time between the birth and the death of the mod.

 

@Lupine00You could take over the mod and improved it

 

[the8one]

Might be just idle curiosity on my part but I would really enjoy any future methods of reducing bounty that you could come up with. Sexlab paysexcrime is ok but feels like it isn't enough. POP or DCL prison are too limiting in terms of player freedom. With survival you've nailed short but very humiliating, and I would love to see some alternate way of "paying off" bounty once it's been accumulated.

 

Fantastic mod though, thanks @Monoman1

[Terrafide]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

What you describe is a part of the punishment for avoiding the toll (leaving town without paying the toll and then getting caught when you return). It's not a part of the licence system I mean. 

You mean the title at the top of the screen after you enter the 'Sexlab Survival' Mcm? I've also noticed this but I haven't the faintest idea what causes it. But my mcm is not broken even with this problem. It appears to be just a visual bug. 

Yea I paid the toll to leave Whiterun and meet Irileth to kill the dragon. Upon return was put in armbinder.. paid toll again, and went on to finish the quest. Returning to the gate and headed for the toll box, was put in armbinder again.. lol  probably was a glitch in my install though.

As for the MCM. It looked like this...

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Yea, someone suggested it earlier. I might take a look if I have time. But really depends on how easy it'll be to integrate. 

yes you should definitely at least try it it doesn't matter what water mod you have i think RND you had to have certain water installed or soemthing but all water works and when you are introduced to new food in the game it automatically asks you waht type it is like drink food soup water alcohol

[Monoman1]

5 hours ago, the8one said:

Might be just idle curiosity on my part but I would really enjoy any future methods of reducing bounty that you could come up with. Sexlab paysexcrime is ok but feels like it isn't enough. POP or DCL prison are too limiting in terms of player freedom. With survival you've nailed short but very humiliating, and I would love to see some alternate way of "paying off" bounty once it's been accumulated.

 

Fantastic mod though, thanks @Monoman1

Thanks. I haven't any plans in this area.... yet. 

4 hours ago, Terrafide said:

Yea I paid the toll to leave Whiterun and meet Irileth to kill the dragon. Upon return was put in armbinder.. paid toll again, and went on to finish the quest. Returning to the gate and headed for the toll box, was put in armbinder again.. lol  probably was a glitch in my install though.

As for the MCM. It looked like this...

So strange. Like I said I've seen in at the title in the middle at the top. Why is it always DDx. Why not another mod...

 

Does it always look like this?

What about new games?

 

[-alpha-]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Thanks. I haven't any plans in this area.... yet. 

So strange. Like I said I've seen in at the title in the middle at the top. Why is it always DDx. Why not another mod...

 

Does it always look like this?

What about new games?

 

Hey this used to happen to me!

No idea what I did to fix it.

Might have been related to Sexworkerslife.

 

[Tiress]

What is the update procedure? Simply overwriting or making a clean save? Or perhaps a new game is recommended?

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, Tiress said:

What is the update procedure? Simply overwriting or making a clean save? Or perhaps a new game is recommended?

Straight upgrade should be fine I think. 

[Lupine00]

12 hours ago, Risamei said:

oh i know lol  i could do that too I use skytweak so i can change the settings its just annoying to keep doing it. :3 i never really cared before but again your mod along with devious followers makes me want to earn money for the liscenses etc and to pay off my follower and last resort it prostitution which i dont want to do >> so i just steal stuff

SLD will change your settings for you dynamically, including carry weight. It doesn't have a "limit" approach though, but you can drive it off other things, like what you're wearing, or how big your character's boobs or belly are.