Sexlab Survival

[Guest]

Quick note for the person complaining about NPCs with weapons earlier: If you happen to have Slaverun, then you can customise its enforcer setting to remove weapons from female NPCs during its checks (and disable every other part of the mod apart from that as well, if Slaverun isn't your thing). Beware that this does use cell scanning, so it can be performance hungry, but you can also just turn it on once per city visit until you no longer see any female NPCs with weapons equipped, then turn it off again.

 

It's not the best solution, but short of making loads of personal CK edits, that's all I can think of.

[Yuuen]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Shouldn't have anything to do with animation positions. What race were the Npcs? Might it have asked about the same npc more than once?

It did. I also just realized all of them were followers with custom races, they were all pulled into a begging event. My bad.

[voberon]

Hi there. Sorry if it was discussed already, but i wonder if theres a way to disable stealing while being tied up. I mean its really annoying that you get 95% chance to steal a master key while wearing a f****n* yoke. Ant it IS a survival mod=)

[Monoman1]

24 minutes ago, voberon said:

Hi there. Sorry if it was discussed already, but i wonder if theres a way to disable stealing while being tied up. I mean its really annoying that you get 95% chance to steal a master key while wearing a f****n* yoke. Ant it IS a survival mod=)

I guess I could add some devious effects. I kind of feel that there are other mods that do it better though. Ones that actually have a hard dependency. 

 

That said I could add simple effects like a pickpocket debuff that would make it considerably harder. I think there are some mods that already have this kind of effect attached to the restraint itself (which is the best way to do it). I think SD has it so in that case you'd get a double debuff....

Edit: just did a quick test there. Wearing an armbinder does affect your chances somewhat. My chance of stealing some clothes from an npc went from 90% to 72% after equipping an armbinder. Still seems kinda high for someone with their hands tied. Must be really good with her mouth...

[voberon]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 I kind of feel that there are other mods that do it better though. Ones that actually have a hard dependency. 

 

If such mods exist i couldnt find them. There are some unique cases (like s.l.u.t.s. costume blocks sneaking completely), but applying this to all binding devices would probably be too extreme.

 

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Must be really good with her mouth...

Thats what i try to figure out every time my character steals some two-handed sword with her hands bound...  I mean just... HOW???!!

[Monoman1]

54 minutes ago, voberon said:

If such mods exist i couldnt find them. There are some unique cases (like s.l.u.t.s. costume blocks sneaking completely), but applying this to all binding devices would probably be too extreme.

Have a look at 0.33 then. Added options to block pickpocketing and lockpicking when in heavy bondage. 

 

Speaking of 0.33. Doesn't need a clean save just follow the upgrade instructions on the main page/changelog and everything should be fine. 

 

Also had a look at NMM and the FoMod. Can't understand why it's installing the incorrect scripts. I mean the toggles are detected and selected correctly. It just doesn't seem to 'listen'....

[Monoman1]

2 minutes ago, frenchymcclaust said:

Anybody else not able to see the quartermasters for licences? I can't seem to find any in the barracks and when I try to search for them in the console only the imperial and stormcloak quartermasters show up. Sorry if this has already been adressed.

Check here

Whiterun - Trilbjorn Stone-Tooth - The barracks at the back of the Bannered Mare
Solitude - Ancolanar - Castle Dour (downstairs)
Markarth - Surgug - Guard Tower
Windhelm - Erilas - Bloodworks (First door on the right inside the palace)
Riften - Okan-Jei - The barracks to the right of Mistveil keep.

[TwiceSwords]

How can i get the other payment methods for tolls ? Right now there is only two options drop on your knee and tie me up aldready, everytime there is only these two. And setting device amount to 0 did nothing. Do i have to be equipped the devices from the last toll to have the other payment options ? If having only two options at first and that is being always devious devices is intented, i would like to have all four options with another update or chance slider for just one appearing so i can prioritize what will the method be.

 

I installed the 0.32 update with a clean save. This time i didn't check devious devices interface on install (just to get other options for tolls.). I was in banner mare doing the update when i try to enter exterior of whiterun it always crashes. I had all the licences with 1 day left, is that the problem even if i cleaned the save or maybe i should have left the city first for the update i don't know.

I'm gonna go back to earlier version save and re update with cleaning this time i will check devious devices interface maybe that is the cause of crash.

 

For the simply knock, i feel like there can be more content like house owner kicks you out of the house naked and took everything in the middle of the night. I haven't seen it yet but they can force drug character like tolls because character is bound. Or again like tolls (i haven't seen) house owner puts slavetats on character while she is asleep (character wakes up then first thing is fired up slavetats then unlock character movement. A dialog afterwards with house owner or when character says "i want to leave" owner says "first let me mark you that you have been here hehehe. Seeing you all marked like a whore makes me horny, i need to release this burden.").

[Monoman1]

19 minutes ago, TwiceSwords said:

How can i get the other payment methods for tolls ? Right now there is only two options drop on your knee and tie me up aldready, everytime there is only these two. And setting device amount to 0 did nothing. Do i have to be equipped the devices from the last toll to have the other payment options ? If having only two options at first and that is being always devious devices is intented, i would like to have all four options with another update or chance slider for just one appearing so i can prioritize what will the method be.

For the other options you need other mods installed. 

Rape Tats for the tattoos.

Skooma Whore and/or Milk Addict for drugs

TDF prostitution for dancing.

19 minutes ago, TwiceSwords said:

I installed the 0.32 update with a clean save. This time i didn't check devious devices interface on install (just to get other options for tolls.). I was in banner mare doing the update when i try to enter exterior of whiterun it always crashes. I had all the licences with 1 day left, is that the problem even if i cleaned the save or maybe i should have left the city first for the update i don't know.

I'm gonna go back to earlier version save and re update with cleaning this time i will check devious devices interface maybe that is the cause of crash.

I don't think not clean saving would have caused any crashing. It didn't for me. All it did was break some quests. If you use NMM you need to install the mod manually as it's not doing it right. This is how it should be done for NMM. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99955-sexlab-survival/?do=findComment&comment=2606867

19 minutes ago, TwiceSwords said:

For the simply knock, i feel like there can be more content like house owner kicks you out of the house naked and took everything in the middle of the night. I haven't seen it yet but they can force drug character like tolls because character is bound. Or again like tolls (i haven't seen) house owner puts slavetats on character while she is asleep (character wakes up then first thing is fired up slavetats then unlock character movement. A dialog afterwards with house owner or when character says "i want to leave" owner says "first let me mark you that you have been here hehehe. Seeing you all marked like a whore makes me horny, i need to release this burden.").

Yea, there's a lot of room for improvement there but I just don't have the time to do it all. 

[sshar22]

Hi,

two questions

 

1) can you change the fomod so that one can prepare the mod even without the required selections activated? I mean I was preparing your mod to install in MO, I have all the various required mods, just some of them are not currently active because I am currently preparing and have a running game meanwhile, so SLS will not let me check RND as interface because Its not activated. So please let us select and install, and just display a warning sign if the mod does not detect what it wants? (I know I can cheat the detection by temporarily activating RND installing your mod and then deactivating it, but..... )

 

2) can the .json file for adding bikini armour be maintained? because my armours are in a huge merge and both method 1 and 2 of adding keywords are problematic (m1 because there are a lot of armours, m2 because a lot of the armours in the merge are not bikinis) and rebuilding the whole merge would be a huge chore.

 

I'm looking forward to try a run with your mod this weekend. 

Cheers

[Monoman1]

54 minutes ago, sshar22 said:

1) can you change the fomod so that one can prepare the mod even without the required selections activated? I mean I was preparing your mod to install in MO, I have all the various required mods, just some of them are not currently active because I am currently preparing and have a running game meanwhile, so SLS will not let me check RND as interface because Its not activated. So please let us select and install, and just display a warning sign if the mod does not detect what it wants? (I know I can cheat the detection by temporarily activating RND installing your mod and then deactivating it, but..... )

I don't do it just to be awkward. There's a good reason (even though the FoMod is nearly giving me as much of a headache). It's important you use the right interface scripts. A problem not many mod authors appear to be aware of and it's particularly important for my mods as they tend to hook into other mods a lot: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/106848-multiple-mods-with-soft-dependency-to-the-same-resource/

 

 

I still prefer the FoMod. Those errors are insidious as they only happen on a new game/when installed for the first time. And it can look like another mods fault (when it's not really (looking at you Bethesda)).

 

1 hour ago, sshar22 said:

2) can the .json file for adding bikini armour be maintained? because my armours are in a huge merge and both method 1 and 2 of adding keywords are problematic (m1 because there are a lot of armours, m2 because a lot of the armours in the merge are not bikinis) and rebuilding the whole merge would be a huge chore.

My armors are in a massive merge too (6639 ARMO records and counting). Still took a minute or two to do. There's two reasons I didn't go with the Json method:

1. Performance. I don't know how fast formlist checks are but checking every item in your inventory (as you approach the toll gates) against a formlist containing at least 400-500 items can not be faster than checking 4/5 keywords for a particular keyword.

2. The json file would almost need as much maintenance anyway. Every time you rebuild your armor merge you'd have to redo the json as I'm pretty sure the FormIds wouldn't match. And creating the Json actually takes more time too.

 

You don't have to run automation tools on the entire armor mod and you shouldn't run it on the entire mod!. You can select blocks of records to do at a time and just process each block. If you arrange the records by EditorId it'll put most of the bikini armors together in a group. Then use Shift + click to select blocks of bikinis. And again. You don't NEED a bikini licence. The built in armor licence will work just fine for ALL armors and you can adjust the price of the licence with the MCM. All the bikini licence does is incentivize you to use bikini armors instead (cheaper).

[sshar22]

38 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I don't do it just to be awkward. There's a good reason (even though the FoMod is nearly giving me as much of a headache). It's important you use the right interface scripts. A problem not many mod authors appear to be aware of and it's particularly important for my mods as they tend to hook into other mods a lot: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/106848-multiple-mods-with-soft-dependency-to-the-same-resource/

 

 

I still prefer the FoMod. Those errors are insidious as they only happen on a new game/when installed for the first time. And it can look like another mods fault (when it's not really (looking at you Bethesda)).

 

My armors are in a massive merge too (6639 ARMO records and counting). Still took a minute or two to do. There's two reasons I didn't go with the Json method:

1. Performance. I don't know how fast formlist checks are but checking every item in your inventory (as you approach the toll gates) against a formlist containing at least 400-500 items can not be faster than checking 4/5 keywords for a particular keyword.

2. The json file would almost need as much maintenance anyway. Every time you rebuild your armor merge you'd have to redo the json as I'm pretty sure the FormIds wouldn't match. And creating the Json actually takes more time too.

 

You don't have to run automation tools on the entire armor mod and you shouldn't run it on the entire mod!. You can select blocks of records to do at a time and just process each block. If you arrange the records by EditorId it'll put most of the bikini armors together in a group. Then use Shift + click to select blocks of bikinis. And again. You don't NEED a bikini licence. The built in armor licence will work just fine for ALL armors and you can adjust the price of the licence with the MCM. All the bikini licence does is incentivize you to use bikini armors instead (cheaper).

thanks for the answer,

I'll then tag the mod name to be reinstalled after the prerequisite mods are active.

I prefer to prepare mods without activating them to begin sorting them in priority, avoid odd overwrites, bundle patches (glaring to SLSO ? ) ect.

 

I'm a rookie with Xedit, so thanks for pointing out a method of grouping and editing.

I'm sure I'll enjoy all what your mod will offer in the run I'm preparing.

 

Cheers

[Executaball]

When I set the required escorts to 0 (not required) I also no longer get the dialogue for the guards (for using devious device for example to pay gate toll), I can only pay using the box.

[Tiress]

If I disable Belly Scaling it greys out the whole page except for Sleep Deprivation. I can't even enable Belly Scaling to make the rest editable again.

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, executaball said:

When I set the required escorts to 0 (not required) I also no longer get the dialogue for the guards (for using devious device for example to pay gate toll), I can only pay using the box.

 

22 minutes ago, Tiress said:

If I disable Belly Scaling it greys out the whole page except for Sleep Deprivation. I can't even enable Belly Scaling to make the rest editable again.

Ok I'll check these when I can.

Edit @Tiress

Are you using rnd/ineed/none?

[Tiress]

16 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Edit @Tiress

Are you using rnd/ineed/none?

iNeed.

[pornlover12345]

1 hour ago, Tiress said:

If I disable Belly Scaling it greys out the whole page except for Sleep Deprivation. I can't even enable Belly Scaling to make the rest editable again.

I'm getting the same issue. The MCM is also not showing interfaces for RND and Slaverun being active, despite the FOMOD Installer (MO2) working fine; it was able to detect the mods. This is 0.33.

[Monoman1]

12 minutes ago, pornlover12345 said:

I'm getting the same issue. The MCM is also not showing interfaces for RND and Slaverun being active, despite the FOMOD Installer (MO2) working fine; it was able to detect the mods. This is 0.33.

Try manual install. 

Link is on the top of the main page.

 

Oh and restart the interfaces by clicking on them

[Yuuen]

Just my addition on the keywords thing, I have 3 armor/outfit merges, 20-40 mods each, probably over a couple thousand armor records. Took me about 20 minutes with the automation tool to go through each and select all the right stuff and it works fine in game. So it's a pretty easy thing.

 

On to the not-so-fun stuff, the swallow dialogue box seems to still be there for PC orgasm, now I'm not 100% certain on this part unless it was just really early right after the PC ones but it seemed like the NPC one didn't even seem to init the dialogue box. I might try it out again just in case.

 

Another thing is that with the magicka disabling collar, during a sex act it went weird and my magicka points go up to something like 100k, the number was pretty small and a bit hard to see. I think it may be something to do with Spank that ass with how it will do something to Magicka and stamina to deal with SLSO? I remember that being mentioned somewhere on it's page.

 

 

[slonez1]

hey quick question about evictions.

I was evicted in whiterun, my house was accessible after a day or w.e but i can't find anyone to pay the fee to get my stuff back, i foudn the box though.

 

 

anyhow keep up the great work, love the mod

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, Yuuen said:

Just my addition on the keywords thing, I have 3 armor/outfit merges, 20-40 mods each, probably over a couple thousand armor records. Took me about 20 minutes with the automation tool to go through each and select all the right stuff and it works fine in game. So it's a pretty easy thing

Out of interest, are you adding more than the normal bikini armors as bikinis because they're like the bikini armors? Seems like all the bikinis would be in one merge....

4 hours ago, Yuuen said:

the not-so-fun stuff, the swallow dialogue box seems to still be there for PC orgasm, now I'm not 100% certain on this part unless it was just really early right after the PC ones but it seemed like the NPC one didn't even seem to init the dialogue box. I might try it out again just in case

Hmm. I think you use slso? Is 'use separate orgasm' enabled in the sexlab mcm? Causes all kinds of weirdness if it isn't.

4 hours ago, Yuuen said:

thing is that with the magicka disabling collar, during a sex act it went weird and my magicka points go up to something like 100k, the number was pretty small and a bit hard to see. I think it may be something to do with Spank that ass with how it will do something to Magicka and stamina to deal with SLSO? I remember that being mentioned somewhere on it's page

Neither mod should affect the total pool of magicka. Survival simply has a condition check if you are in the sexlab faction and flips the spell effect off. STA changes the magicka rates but not the pool size. Both are applied via spells and not manipulated via script so you don't need to worry about them messing up your stats. 

 

Perhaps there was some magical buff being applied by something like skooma whore and when the effect was applied your pool was zero so it multiplied the effect to something ridiculous. 

40 minutes ago, slonez1 said:

hey quick question about evictions.

I was evicted in whiterun, my house was accessible after a day or w.e but i can't find anyone to pay the fee to get my stuff back, i foudn the box though.

 

 

anyhow keep up the great work, love the mod

Eviction is on a separate system to confiscation. Your stuff will be somewhere near the vanilla skyrim 'evidence chest'. For whiterrun thats the dragons reach dungeon. It's also paid like the toll. Theres a box on a desk nearby. You'll have to pay a fee and your bounty needs to be cleared. 

[Nazzzgul666]

Oh wow, lot of new stuff here. I'm almost about to stop playing witcher 2 for the first time and get back to Skyrim again just because of you, but not entirely yet.

One thing i couldn't find in the change logs and i'd like to have are more scenarios for the simply knock scenario.

Things i could imagine:

- i actually like your idea you mentioned at some point to wake up in a milk pump (or other devices. When i complained in ZAP 8/9 about file size, t.ara offered me to include a few furnitures in my own mod which i'm lacking, but he might repeat that offer to you if you don't want to make it a dependency.)

- wake up with a cock in your <whatever>. Maybe more than one, he might invite some friends.

- agree to do other stuff than wearing DD. This could lead to sex, but also other tasks, like clean the house, dance, or help finding something the owner forgot where it is. Here are animations you could use for that. Maybe simply pay, but later. Or drink some drugs which might lead to a more plausible scenario from above.

 

I think it could work to agree at the evening, but do some of the tasks like cleaning in the morning. Maybe with an option to leave without fullfilling it whcih would lead to 

-a bounty

- decrease in relation ship status. Yes, that could mean population gets hostile if you overdo it.

- If payment is missed, you might end up as a whore for one day or something, although there is no lack of prostitution mods and it might be more work than it's worth.

[Yuuen]

35 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Out of interest, are you adding more than the normal bikini armors as bikinis because they're like the bikini armors? Seems like all the bikinis would be in one merge....

Well I merge by theme, stuff that seems like it could be in skyrim, then one for ports & more fantasy stuff then one for everything else.

All of the Nise bikini stuff is in the same merge but there are other sets that are like it but don't fit in the same theme.

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Hmm. I think you use slso? Is 'use separate orgasm' enabled in the sexlab mcm? Causes all kinds of weirdness if it isn't.

Yup and yup. No configuration issue there.

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Neither mod should affect the total pool of magicka. Survival simply has a condition check if you are in the sexlab faction and flips the spell effect off. STA changes the magicka rates but not the pool size. Both are applied via spells and not manipulated via script so you don't need to worry about them messing up your stats. 

 

Perhaps there was some magical buff being applied by something like skooma whore and when the effect was applied your pool was zero so it multiplied the effect to something ridiculous. 

I had nothing from SkoomaWhore going, it was on a brand new game. I had nothing, went near the gate and it was put on then I tried the gold begging dialogue which initiated the act. Then I apparently ascended and had enough magicka to end the world.

 

Edit: I keep forgetting to mention that both times it happened, it eventually went back to normal. Usually after a save load/game restart.

 

[Monoman1]

48 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Oh wow, lot of new stuff here. I'm almost about to stop playing witcher 2 for the first time and get back to Skyrim again just because of you, but not entirely yet.

One thing i couldn't find in the change logs and i'd like to have are more scenarios for the simply knock scenario.

Things i could imagine:

- i actually like your idea you mentioned at some point to wake up in a milk pump (or other devices. When i complained in ZAP 8/9 about file size, t.ara offered me to include a few furnitures in my own mod which i'm lacking, but he might repeat that offer to you if you don't want to make it a dependency.)

- wake up with a cock in your <whatever>. Maybe more than one, he might invite some friends.

- agree to do other stuff than wearing DD. This could lead to sex, but also other tasks, like clean the house, dance, or help finding something the owner forgot where it is. Here are animations you could use for that. Maybe simply pay, but later. Or drink some drugs which might lead to a more plausible scenario from above.

 

I think it could work to agree at the evening, but do some of the tasks like cleaning in the morning. Maybe with an option to leave without fullfilling it whcih would lead to 

-a bounty

- decrease in relation ship status. Yes, that could mean population gets hostile if you overdo it.

- If payment is missed, you might end up as a whore for one day or something, although there is no lack of prostitution mods and it might be more work than it's worth.

Yea I'm still interested in doing more with that. Time is the problem. I've more or less been working for over 2 weeks non stop on survival and the last 2 updates are as much as I have to show for it. Modding takes a ton of time. 

40 minutes ago, Yuuen said:

Yup and yup. No configuration issue there

You must be talking about 3p+ scences. I'm finding it next to impossible to get the PC to orgasm during a blow job (which makes perfect sense). I need suggestions for mods for starting 3p+ scenes. Something that doesn't take ages to get into to test. I just don't have the time and 3p+ scenes are a drag with SLSO as there's no control.

 

 

[Yuuen]

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You must be talking about 3p+ scences. I'm finding it next to impossible to get the PC to orgasm during a blow job (which makes perfect sense). I need suggestions for mods for starting 3p+ scenes. Something that doesn't take ages to get into to test. I just don't have the time and 3p+ scenes are a drag with SLSO as there's no control.

 

 

I don't really know how it happens that easily either tbh, I might need to tone some settings back a bit. I have so many mods that I need to config on new games, if a mod keeps the settings or has a preset load function I'll just do that and move on.

 

As for testing 3p+ scenes, I got that option from the begging dialogue pretty frequently. Maybe it's worth a shot?