Sexlab Survival

[Maitso]

32 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Hmm something weird is going on then. Do you use my other mod 'Spank that ass'? The esp replacement esp for survival in that mod is based on 0.22 and isn't needed if using 0.3x.

 

It may be over writing the current version?

I'm not, no. Only thing I can think of is having an alternative start that put me in a main city(Solitude). Then again, that would probably not cause it, considering all mods are loaded in in the cell...

[Monoman1]

26 minutes ago, Maitso said:

I'm not, no. Only thing I can think of is having an alternative start that put me in a main city(Solitude). Then again, that would probably not cause it, considering all mods are loaded in in the cell...

I can not think of any other reasons. Only thing I can suggest at this point is  create a new game and see if you have a licences tab in your mcm then. If so, then do a  clean save. 

 

Out of interest can you post a pic of your mcm.

 

Edit. I use alternate start. Shouldn't be any problem. 

 

54 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

on my last game:

> 1.0 RTDL CTD after serana got hit while rocks vanished (rocks rolling down a tunnel)

repeated that scenario 3 times, always CTD

> 1.1 RTDL rocks (rolling down a tunnel, same save and trap than before) vanished faster than they could hit serana => no CTD

repeated that scenario a few times, but rock vanished so fast they never reached her

 

on my new game:

> 1.1 RTDL

I moved all followers right below the rock trap to make sure they all get hit

all got hit

fight started between the rocks against bandits

followers got hit by rocks (by just walking into them) while rocks vanished

NO CTD!

You shouldn't be able to see them vanish? (Mostly) they shouldn't vanish while you have line of sight to them. Do you think they vanish too quickly? I think its 7 seconds until they can try to vanish. 

 

[donttouchmethere]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You shouldn't be able to see them vanish? (Mostly) they shouldn't vanish while you have line of sight to them. Do you think they vanish too quickly? I think its 7 seconds until they can try to vanish.  

with RTDL 1.0 I could see them fading away

with RTDL 1.1 they *puff* just are gone

 

that saved serana on the old game with 1.1 because the rocks got deleted already out of LOS

on my new game they didn't got deleted until I was with the back to them, after turning around they where just all gone

 

I definitely like it that those rocks can vanish that quick!

Normal tactic: PC in the front to trigger the trap and delete the rocks, than running back to grab the rest of the party.

With RTDL 1.1 its enough if I get the rocks out of my LOS and they are gone.

I like that. A lot.

 

For my test battle:

> rock trap got triggered

> the rocks stayed long enough to be an obstracle (and to alarm the bandits)

> they vanished quick enough after that so I could heal followers up without issues (like them going again and again into bleedout)

 

 

need to test that with a more squish civilian NPC to see if they vanish quick enough.

 

funny that they only vanish if I don't look, do they get naked before disintegrating?

or is that the new feature of RTDL 1.1 to prevent the CTD?

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

funny that they only vanish if I don't look, do they get naked before disintegrating?

or is that the new feature of RTDL 1.1 to prevent the CTD?

It's just to be a little more immersive than disappearing right in front of you. That and the fact that if you're not looking at them they're probably not a threat any more. 

[Maitso]

55 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I can not think of any other reasons. Only thing I can suggest at this point is  create a new game and see if you have a licences tab in your mcm then. If so, then do a  clean save. 

 

Out of interest can you post a pic of your mcm.

 

Edit. I use alternate start. Shouldn't be any problem.

Well, the good news is I got the right version number now...

So, I went to get the screenshot, decided to use a new game for it. Then noticed the version number of Survival showed as 0.2(and some zeros). So, I reinstalled, and it does show the proper version number... So, not sure how, but I guess I installed the wrong version first. Even though the proper one was, and still is, on my PC's desktop... *points at dunce corner* I'll be over here.

[Monoman1]

7 minutes ago, Maitso said:

Well, the good news is I got the right version number now...

So, I went to get the screenshot, decided to use a new game for it. Then noticed the version number of Survival showed as 0.2(and some zeros). So, I reinstalled, and it does show the proper version number... So, not sure how, but I guess I installed the wrong version first. Even though the proper one was, and still is, on my PC's desktop... *points at dunce corner* I'll be over here.

No bother. Just glad you got it working. 

[DFDark]

Are there only specified merchants with map&compass? So far I tried looking in whiterun, rorikstead and riverwood but not a single one of them has them. I tried adding map&compass with console and it worked. Do I need to install "Map&compass only" from the download section?

[Monoman1]

4 minutes ago, DFDark said:

Are there only specified merchants with map&compass? So far I tried looking in whiterun, rorikstead and riverwood but not a single one of them has them. I tried adding map&compass with console and it worked. Do I need to install "Map&compass only" from the download section?

You need a merged patch probably. Something is overwriting the merchant container records. 

I used to have a nice video on it but just Google tesedit merged patch and theres loads of videos. 

[DFDark]

28 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You need a merged patch probably. Something is overwriting the merchant container records. 

I used to have a nice video on it but just Google tesedit merged patch and theres loads of videos. 

I kinda tried to avoid TESedit, since getting all mods setup in ubuntu was already quite challenge, but it seems I have no choice (unless I give up and go into HC play :))

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, DFDark said:

I kinda tried to avoid TESedit, since getting all mods setup in ubuntu was already quite challenge, but it seems I have no choice (unless I give up and go into HC play :))

Hey if you use ubuntu then creating a merged patch should be a walk in the park for you. 

Unless you mean theres no version of tesedit for ubuntu...

 

Merged patches are a good thing. Everyone with a large load order should use one tbh. 

[DFDark]

40 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Hey if you use ubuntu then creating a merged patch should be a walk in the park for you. 

Unless you mean theres no version of tesedit for ubuntu...

 

Merged patches are a good thing. Everyone with a large load order should use one tbh. 

I didn't try it yet. I use combination of wine+proton and most of things are working. But after painful period of replacing MO's vfs with movfs patch and getting reqtificator to work I'm kinda reluctant to try poke this, but I will try it one few mods get update. (movfs is kinda slow since it has to be run separately from MO + there is always Bodyslide batch rebuild, since movfs replaces all watched files)

Same thing with DynDOLOD

[Monoman1]

1 minute ago, DFDark said:

I didn't try it yet. I use combination of wine+proton and most of things are working. But after painful period of replacing MO's vfs with movfs patch and getting reqtificator to work I'm kinda reluctant to try poke this, but I will try it one few mods get update. (movfs is kinda slow since it has to be run separately from MO + there is always Bodyslide batch rebuild, since movfs replaces all watched files)

Same thing with DynDOLOD

Ugh. Sounds like a complete pain in the hole. 

https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-windows-10-professional-cd-key-compare-prices/

 

€3. I'm not saying. I'm just saying. 

Separate boot partition for an easier modding life...

[DFDark]

2 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Ugh. Sounds like a complete pain in the hole. 

https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-windows-10-professional-cd-key-compare-prices/

 

€3. I'm not saying. I'm just saying. 

Separate boot partition for an easier modding life...

As for modding/gaming in general goes I agree win is much easier, but I have nothing but deep sated grudge against win10 (and few other MS products).

 

Also after the time I spent getting it working already I don't want to just give up  (I ain't no quitter!) After one solid gameplay I thought about writing a guide how to setup everything on linux. (once figured out it's actually easy, the figuring out part is the hard one :))

[migueltorga]

Hi, thanks for making the mod, but i´ve been running into a issue, the magic collar that you get in a town until you get a license doesn´t work. Is there any fix?

[Monoman1]

9 minutes ago, migueltorga said:

Hi, thanks for making the mod, but i´ve been running into a issue, the magic collar that you get in a town until you get a license doesn´t work. Is there any fix?

Need more information.

What's not working exactly?

[migueltorga]

Maybe you can give me the name or the specific designation. I could try and play with the console to see if it fixes it

[migueltorga]

6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Need more information.

What's not working exactly?

When i enter i am suposed to get the collar wich removes magicka, the dialogue kicks in but i get nothing, at first after aproching the toll guard a few more times would work but now nothing. 

[Monoman1]

12 minutes ago, migueltorga said:

Maybe you can give me the name or the specific designation. I could try and play with the console to see if it fixes it

There are no devious devices in Survival itself. (It's not a special collar or anything. The curse is applied via a reference alias)

12 minutes ago, migueltorga said:

When i enter i am suposed to get the collar wich removes magicka, the dialogue kicks in but i get nothing, at first after aproching the toll guard a few more times would work but now nothing. 

You got the collar at least once then, yes? Did you use cursed loot to remove the collar? There seems to be some issue with the collar after you use DCLs 'Free me'. I've no idea why. Like I said above it's just a normal DD collar.

A papyrus log or when the dialogue is fired but when the collar isn't equipped might be useful. If you don't know what a papyrus log is: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368

[migueltorga]

5 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

There are no devious devices in Survival itself. (It's not a special collar or anything. The curse is applied via a reference alias)

You got the collar at least once then, yes? Did you use cursed loot to remove the collar? There seems to be some issue with the collar after you use DCLs 'Free me'. I've no idea why. Like I said above it's just a normal DD collar.

A papyrus log or when the dialogue is fired but when the collar isn't equipped might be useful. If you don't know what a papyrus log is: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368

I did get it, but it was on another save were i was testing if the mods i downloaded were working. I might have used that effect with cursed loot tough.  Would screenshots be helpfull? I might not have papyrus now as i reinstalled the game today

[migueltorga]

Checked, all values are set to 0, is this the issue?

 

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0
 

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, migueltorga said:

I did get it, but it was on another save were i was testing if the mods i downloaded were working. I might have used that effect with cursed loot tough.  Would screenshots be helpfull? I might not have papyrus now as i reinstalled the game today

Screenshot of what? If you think it would help post it (in spoilers please). 

Next time it happens post a log. You can message it to me if you prefer privacy. 

 

Just check one thing maybe. Go into the mcm to the 'general settings' page and scroll down to "interfaces". Make sure that the 'Devious devices' toggle is enabled. The interface toggles should match your load order. 

 

6 minutes ago, migueltorga said:

Checked, all values are set to 0, is this the issue?

 

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

No that just enables logging so that the log files are created. Read the entire article please.

 

[migueltorga]

Papyrus.3.log

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Screenshot of what? If you think it would help post it (in spoilers please). 

Next time it happens post a log. You can message it to me if you prefer privacy. 

 

Just check one thing maybe. Go into the mcm to the 'general settings' page and scroll down to "interfaces". Make sure that the 'Devious devices' toggle is enabled. The interface toggles should match your load order. 

 

No that just enables logging so that the log files are created. Read the entire article please.

 

I don´t mind asking here, i figure it´s better if another noob like me runs into the same issue. Load order was wrong, i will fix this and report if it works, if not ill restart playtrough and see if it works then. If nothing works ill send you the log. Thanks.

 

Edit: Nothing ill give you the papyrus. The last one will do i supose, it was generated after starting a new game. But have them all as i know not wich is the most usefull

 

Edit2: Maybe it refers to this?

 

ERROR: alias MagicLicenceCollarAlias on quest _SLS_LicenceQuest (370420BB): Cannot force the alias's reference to a None reference.
stack:
    [alias MagicLicenceCollarAlias on quest _SLS_LicenceQuest (370420BB)]._SLS_LicenceMagicCollar.ForceRefTo() - "<native>" Line ?
    [_SLS_LicenceQuest 

Papyrus.3.log

Papyrus.2.log Papyrus.1.log Papyrus.0.log

[Demerots]

Since I was enjoying this mod a lot I decided to install spank that ass as well - but unfortunately for whatever reason with STA installed the license system of Survival stopped functioning. I don't know if anything else broke too since that was the most obvious thing and I tried fiddling with STA's settings to resolve the issue, but without a lot of luck. Any idea what I might be doing wrong? Disabling STA in MO immediately fixed the issue, but I would obviously like to play with both. Thanks again.

 

Edit: Actually, reinstalling SL Survival after STA made the guards take my stuff again...but the quartermaster NPCs who're meant to give it back don't have their dialogue options anymore.

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, Demerots said:

Since I was enjoying this mod a lot I decided to install spank that ass as well - but unfortunately for whatever reason with STA installed the license system of Survival stopped functioning. I don't know if anything else broke too since that was the most obvious thing and I tried fiddling with STA's settings to resolve the issue, but without a lot of luck. Any idea what I might be doing wrong? Disabling STA in MO immediately fixed the issue, but I would obviously like to play with both. Thanks again.

 

Edit: Actually, reinstalling SL Survival after STA made the guards take my stuff again...but the quartermaster NPCs who're meant to give it back don't have their dialogue options anymore.

STA contains a replacement esp for Survival that disables survivals spanking mechanism but it is only intended for version 0.22 of survival not the newer version. If you use NMM reinstall survival (which you've already done). If you use MO simply move survival lower in the left window. Then revert to a save before installing STA. If you haven't got a save (tut tut) then you'll have to clean save survival entirely.

7 hours ago, migueltorga said:

Papyrus.3.log 40.96 kB · 0 downloads

I don´t mind asking here, i figure it´s better if another noob like me runs into the same issue. Load order was wrong, i will fix this and report if it works, if not ill restart playtrough and see if it works then. If nothing works ill send you the log. Thanks.

 

Edit: Nothing ill give you the papyrus. The last one will do i supose, it was generated after starting a new game. But have them all as i know not wich is the most usefull

 

Edit2: Maybe it refers to this?

 

ERROR: alias MagicLicenceCollarAlias on quest _SLS_LicenceQuest (370420BB): Cannot force the alias's reference to a None reference.
stack:
    [alias MagicLicenceCollarAlias on quest _SLS_LicenceQuest (370420BB)]._SLS_LicenceMagicCollar.ForceRefTo() - "<native>" Line ?
    [_SLS_LicenceQuest 

Papyrus.3.log 40.96 kB · 0 downloads

Papyrus.2.log 505.73 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.1.log 87.33 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.0.log 523.36 kB · 0 downloads

However you installed survival something's very broken. Look just clean save survival and reinstall it. 

[Demerots]

47 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

STA contains a replacement esp for Survival that disables survivals spanking mechanism but it is only intended for version 0.22 of survival not the newer version. If you use NMM reinstall survival (which you've already done). If you use MO simply move survival lower in the left window. Then revert to a save before installing STA. If you haven't got a save (tut tut) then you'll have to clean save survival entirely.

However you installed survival something's very broken. Look just clean save survival and reinstall it. 

Well I'm dumb, but not dumb enough to not hold onto previous saves. That fix worked, thanks again for answering.