Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

11 hours ago, SkyrimOne said:

Hello!

I have been using DD + NG latest for quite some time. I am happy with the quality/animations, and I have integrated on all the major Wabbajack modlists I played with great success. 

 

But, there is a but. While If I apply the DD on my main character, I get 100% effectiveness (locking and animations), I have had some mix results on applying on female NPCs. I know there are quite many parameters in play, but no matter what the modlist I am using, I end up always with some head scratching. 

 

For instance, if I have Diary of Mine, I always have a failure on applying 90% of the DD for the locking behavior. I have tried using some utilities to "add gear" to the NPC, wth very mixed results. The dialogue with the NPC to "I decide what you wear" would fail as well.

 

So, I have been wondering if there is a patch out there that would guarantee the "locking" behavior of DD --or if there are some parameters to change?.

 

I want to repeat the issue, I apply the "shacker" for instance, and the NPC is still and while the item appears to be "equipped" is actually not visible. I give you an example of a very successful patch released for this goal - Ostim path for DD. Once the patch was released, OStim standalone animations do respect the DD locking status.

 

If anyone has had the same issue and/or a solution, please let me know. 

 

Many thanks!

 

 

 

 

If you're using DD NG, it's better to ask on that thread. They have made significant changes to the mod at this point as part of improving it, and things don't work entirely the same way anymore.

 

No idea what you mean by effectiveness, but applying devices to NPCs is a crapshot for DD SE. Some behaviors can't be changed without breaking NPCs, so you will see inconsistencies where they're wearing something but don't have the animation, or they'll talk even when gagged. This was allowed to prevent vanilla quests from breaking.

If you mean that they aren't wearing something when you give them an item, npcs will prefer to use the 'better' armor in their inventory rather than the 'clothing' DDs (ie not their preferred armor type). to get the npc to actually wear the device, you need to take away the armor in their inventory for that slot.

 

There is a mod that tries to improve NPC behavior with DDs but I don't know how well it works (others say it works well) or if it works with DD NG.

 

[quykiem201193]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Nếu bạn thêm mục bằng menu modex hoặc additem, hãy chỉ thêm các mục từ phần mở rộng devious devices. Các plugin khác không dùng để phân phối thiết bị và không có tập lệnh phù hợp kèm theo.

ỗi của tôi là khi vào chỉ lấy vật phẩm nhưng số cân nặng trở về như cũ gần như ngay lập tức và item cũng biến mất  , nó xảy xa không chỉ với plugin :"devious device.expansion" mà còn cả với "laura bondage shop" nữa tôi có hỏi qua một vài người quen thì họ bảo đây là tính năng chứ không phải là lỗi 

T.T 

[SkyrimOne]

9 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

If you're using DD NG, it's better to ask on that thread. They have made significant changes to the mod at this point as part of improving it, and things don't work entirely the same way anymore.

 

No idea what you mean by effectiveness, but applying devices to NPCs is a crapshot for DD SE. Some behaviors can't be changed without breaking NPCs, so you will see inconsistencies where they're wearing something but don't have the animation, or they'll talk even when gagged. This was allowed to prevent vanilla quests from breaking.

If you mean that they aren't wearing something when you give them an item, npcs will prefer to use the 'better' armor in their inventory rather than the 'clothing' DDs (ie not their preferred armor type). to get the npc to actually wear the device, you need to take away the armor in their inventory for that slot.

 

There is a mod that tries to improve NPC behavior with DDs but I don't know how well it works (others say it works well) or if it works with DD NG.

 

Thank you for the feedback. I gave a quick check on the suggested patch/add-on, but the last update is around 3 years ago. I am not sure if it is going to solve the issue or if it is going to be partially incompatible with the latest code.

 

[zarantha]

19 hours ago, quykiem201193 said:

ỗi của tôi là khi vào chỉ lấy vật phẩm nhưng số cân nặng trở về như cũ gần như ngay lập tức và item cũng biến mất  , nó xảy xa không chỉ với plugin :"devious device.expansion" mà còn cả với "laura bondage shop" nữa tôi có hỏi qua một vài người quen thì họ bảo đây là tính năng chứ không phải là lỗi 

T.T 

 

I'm not sure the translation is adequate here for me to understand what you mean, but i'll give it a shot...

 

If your weight is returning to normal when equipping a devices, that's usually an indication the bodyslides weren't built correctly.

Double check your output path in bodyslide, and make sure 'build morphs' is checked in the bottom right. the output path needs to point to the 'data' folder in your skyrim se path.

 

The devices not showing up can also be a bodyslide issue, but if you are using DD NG too, it can also be an indication that the device hider is hiding whatever item is in the body slot.

If rebuilding the bodyslides doesn't help, then you might try turning off all the options in the two 'devices underneath' tabs in the DD MCM.

[DonQuiWho]

On 9/16/2025 at 9:12 AM, SkyrimOne said:

Thank you for the feedback. I gave a quick check on the suggested patch/add-on, but the last update is around 3 years ago. I am not sure if it is going to solve the issue or if it is going to be partially incompatible with the latest code.

 

 

FWIW, (and I know we've touched on this in the DD NG and DOM threads), DDs seem to work fine with followers, both DD SE and DD NG, when applied by mods such as Defeat, Sexy Adventures, DEC, Devious Interests etc and their locked/unlocked behaviour is not a problem - eg either for the PC or when using, say, Devious Device helpers for follower assistance, the follower will remove the item if you, or he/she has a key in inventory, and the follower refuses to remove them if there is not a key available from those sources.  (...and as you know, they worked fine with DOM 5 but later versions seem to be 'iffy' (latest DOM 7.9.5, at least, doesn't play nice with DD NG) 

 

Context here?  I use 'Better NPC Support for Devious Devices' in every game I play ... Maybe I should remove that and see if it fixes the DOM issue, but I have my doubts it will make any difference  

 

Hope that adds something to the cauldron of current weirdness 🙂

 

DQW

[quykiem201193]

nhân vật npc và tôi vô hình khi mặc đồ , ai có cách giải quyết cho
tôi cảm ơn 

 

Edited September 17, 2025 by quykiem201193

[Miauzi]

Vor 13 Minuten sagte quykiem201193:

NPC-Charakter und ich sind unsichtbar, wenn wir Kleidung tragen. Hat jemand eine Lösung dafür?
Danke

 

 

Well, then "creating" the clothing with the Bodyslide tool did NOT work.

There are several possible reasons for this:

- the output path for the "created" clothing is incorrect and needs to be corrected accordingly.

- the "creation" was never performed by the user.

- the "creation" failed - quite often because the Bodyslide program is not working correctly -> it cannot find the sources for "meshes" and "textures" (input paths!).

 

Countless other mod users have also encountered the same error... always because they misused something or didn't perform it at all!

[quykiem201193]

1 minute ago, Miauzi said:

 

Vâng, vậy thì việc "tạo" trang phục bằng công cụ Bodyslide KHÔNG hiệu quả.

Có một số lý do có thể xảy ra như sau:

- đường dẫn đầu ra cho trang phục "đã tạo" không chính xác và cần phải sửa lại cho phù hợp.

- "việc sáng tạo" này chưa bao giờ được người dùng thực hiện.

- "việc tạo" không thành công - thường là do chương trình Bodyslide không hoạt động chính xác -> nó không thể tìm thấy nguồn cho "lưới" và "kết cấu" (đường dẫn đầu vào!).

 

Vô số người dùng mod khác cũng gặp phải lỗi tương tự... luôn là do họ sử dụng sai mục đích hoặc không thực hiện gì cả!

có cách khắc phục nào cụ thể không , theo tôi nhớ tôi đã làm đủ  :<<

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, quykiem201193 said:

có cách khắc phục nào cụ thể không , theo tôi nhớ tôi đã làm đủ  :<<

 

Look at the how to bodyslide section of the troubleshooting post.
 

[quykiem201193]

cám ơn rất nhiều nhưng hiện tôi vẫn gặp tình trạng không tác động khi mặc :"pet suit" :<<

 

[Sorasueme]

This mod needs an update bad... and of course Bimbos of skyrim and all that also is having issues on my end

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, Sorasueme said:

This mod needs an update bad... and of course Bimbos of skyrim and all that also is having issues on my end

 

The SE/AE updates are in DD NG. Install that over DD 5.2.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/29779-devious-devices-ng/

 

[blues_syndrome]

question, every time I try to download this and get it working I can never get the plugins to show up. Can someone explain what I'm doing wrong I'm bery basic to modding knowledge, thanks

[CaptainJ03]

27 minutes ago, blues_syndrome said:

question, every time I try to download this and get it working I can never get the plugins to show up. Can someone explain what I'm doing wrong I'm bery basic to modding knowledge, thanks

Just guessing, as you don't tell us much.

 

In case you're using Vortex as a mod manager, it would tell you about "missing masters" - when you haven't downloaded everything you need (and that's a lot to get running before you even think about downloading DDs) it would start without activating this mod.

 

Again with Vortex, even if you did everything right: this mod comes with 4 esp's, which that silly program can't handle on its own. There should be another message, and you have to enable the esps manually.

 

When you're using MO2 as mod manager, someone else might tell you where to look, if you haven't used any mod manager... Well, you should. Really.

 

Aaaand, just in case: if you're on AE, you still need to get DD NG on top of this.

[quykiem201193]

On 10/9/2025 at 09:23, zarantha said:

 

Chúng nằm trên mặt đất hay dưới lòng đất? Nếu vậy, hoặc là bạn chưa cài đặt FSMP, hoặc là nó không hoạt động.

 

Các chuỗi hậu môn không nằm trong bodyslide, do đó đây không phải là vấn đề liên quan đến bodyslide.

 

sorry but i have the same problem even though i have HDT-SMP, and my plug is in the ground :<<

[fyjh]

I use Nether's Follower Framework,and when my follower's arms are bound,her  cloth will disappear when I load the game or change map.I have to reset her cloth whenever this happens.I also have DDNG and Unforgiving Devices,there is a option to prevent npc's outfit remove when bound in Unforgiving Devices,but it doesn't work.

[zarantha]

14 hours ago, quykiem201193 said:

 

sorry but i have the same problem even though i have HDT-SMP, and my plug is in the ground :<<

 

There is only one answer here. If your plug is on the ground, something is wrong with your HDT SMP. Also, CBPC is not a substitute for HDT SMP.

[zarantha]

55 minutes ago, fyjh said:

I use Nether's Follower Framework,and when my follower's arms are bound,her  cloth will disappear when I load the game or change map.I have to reset her cloth whenever this happens.I also have DDNG and Unforgiving Devices,there is a option to prevent npc's outfit remove when bound in Unforgiving Devices,but it doesn't work.

 

If you have DD NG, then you should be asking over there.

DD NG did something where this tends to happen with device hider. disabling device hider by setting all the options in the two 'devices underneath' pages of the DD MCM should make it so the the outfits on the body will show.

[quykiem201193]

12 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Chỉ có một câu trả lời ở đây. Nếu phích cắm của bạn chạm đất, thì có vấn đề với HDT SMP của bạn. Hơn nữa, CBPC không phải là giải pháp thay thế cho HDT SMP.

hhh thanks a lot it worked, but i seem to have trouble with the pet suit, my character is still standing upright even though i have the suit on. even though i have them built in specific bodyslide. It looks like this :<<

[zarantha]

12 hours ago, quykiem201193 said:

hhh thanks a lot it worked, but i seem to have trouble with the pet suit, my character is still standing upright even though i have the suit on. even though i have them built in specific bodyslide. It looks like this :<<

 

If you are using DD NG, you need OAR installed.

If you aren't, then make sure you ran FNIS or Pandora. Nemesis doesn't work well with DD, which is why DD NG and OAR are recommended.

[Kionatria]

I have a problem. Integration does not work for me. While I can load Assets and continue playing without problems, if I load Integration, the very second I load a save the game crashes, and if I try to start a new game it doesn't even start to begin with. Naturally, any mod that requires full DD support cannot work because of it, and while there are some LL mods that don't have DD requirement, the mod I want to play (Slaverun Reloaded 4.+) has ample need for it. I have the 1.6.1170 version of the game, and while I don't use 166b version of Sexlab(I use 166), I haven't had any issues with playing the game thus far.

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte Kionatria:

Ich habe ein Problem. Integration funktioniert bei mir nicht. Ich kann zwar Assets laden und problemlos weiterspielen, aber wenn ich Integration lade, stürzt das Spiel in der Sekunde ab, in der ich einen Spielstand lade, und wenn ich versuche, ein neues Spiel zu starten, startet es gar nicht erst. Natürlich kann deshalb kein Mod funktionieren, der volle DD-Unterstützung benötigt. Und obwohl es einige LL-Mods gibt, die keine DD-Unterstützung benötigen, benötigt der Mod, den ich spielen möchte (Slaverun Reloaded 4.+), sie durchaus. Ich habe die Version 1.6.1170 des Spiels und obwohl ich nicht die 166b-Version von Sexlab verwende (ich verwende 166), hatte ich bisher keine Probleme beim Spielen.

 

It won't work with Skyrim 1.6.1170 either - because you also need "DD NG"... this will "update" ESM from DD (by overwriting).

And of course, OAR must also be installed - see the above post.

[Kionatria]

23 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

It won't work with Skyrim 1.6.1170 either - because you also need "DD NG"... this will "update" ESM from DD (by overwriting).

 

But doesn't NG require Assets, Integration and Expansion active to work? Because if it does, then it won't matter if I install it, since I won't be able to use it anyways because Integration crashes the save and doesn't even allow a new game.
Also, why is my response in your post in German? While I do know it, I haven't used it in decades, so it's beyond impossible that I wrote it.

[CaptainJ03]

6 minutes ago, Kionatria said:

But doesn't NG require Assets, Integration and Expansion active to work? Because if it does, then it won't matter if I install it, since I won't be able to use it anyways because Integration crashes the save and doesn't even allow a new game.

When you head over to DD NG, you'll get 4 new esp's that overwrite the esps of this mod. Loading only one esp is prone to crash your game, you need at least three. (a,e,i)

 

8 minutes ago, Kionatria said:

Also, why is my response in your post in German? While I do know it, I haven't used it in decades, so it's beyond impossible that I wrote it.

Because Miauzi uses some auto translate tool, they don't speak a word english (at least not enough to participate in this forum) - be glad it's not chinese or some other illegible language - und eine gute Gelegenheit, deine Deutschkenntnisse aufzufrischen... Ooops. 

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte Kionatria:

 

Aber benötigt NG nicht aktive Assets, Integration und Expansion, um zu funktionieren? Denn wenn das der Fall ist, dann macht es nichts, wenn ich es installiere, da ich es sowieso nicht verwenden kann, weil die Integration den Speichervorgang abstürzt und nicht einmal ein neues Spiel zulässt.
Und warum ist meine Antwort in Ihrem Beitrag auf Deutsch? Ich kenne die Sprache zwar, habe sie aber seit Jahrzehnten nicht mehr verwendet. Daher ist es mehr als unmöglich, dass ich sie geschrieben habe.

 

Because I have an online translation program as a plugin for my Firefox browser, I read everything here in the forum in my (default) native language, "German."

When I quote a text, unfortunately, it doesn't display the original English text -> instead, it displays the German translation.

-

I translate my reply separately using Google Translate and then insert this text (in English) into my post. Of course, I don't translate the quoted text (to which I'm replying). Duplicate translations, especially when different programs are used, often have very "interesting differences."

 

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The assets are essentially provided by the "old" DD - but the new NG also contains a few additional assets (e.g. "Boxbinder")