Devious Devices SE

[testingais]

Hi everyone

I have Skyrim SE upgradad to AE

 

I have several mods installed, all of them towards installind Devious Devices (5.2, NG)

The moment I activate DD, Skyrim CTD when I try to start a new game (or load a savegame); if I disable, everything works fine (or at least, it appears to)

 

I know to give any help you need a log; so my first question is; what tool do I have to install to create such a log, and where do i get it?

 

 

 

 

[WhoEvenAmI]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

@seville
@WhoEvenAmI
 

Pick anything you want in the installer if you're on 1.6.1130. It doesn't matter because you're removing or replacing the DLL. Replacement DLLs are available on the troubleshooting post and have been for months. Those DLLs are compatible with ALL versions.

 

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I know you're going to feel like this is a stupid question, but given the general confusion so many others are having, I feel like there's probably some sort of a vocabulary barrier going on in this conversation.

 

It seems what you're telling me to do essentially is to install the main file on this thread, then intall this over it.

https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=1739421&key=041defcb263f74c5c44e8e8c22a4bb69

 

Is that correct?

 

If not, would you be so kind as to link the correct file in a response?

[cokacora]

Hey so im at a dead end in trouble shooting why some of my devious devices items are invisible but others aren't, heres what i know so far

 

1. everything is installed and running correctly, mods are recognized and animations are building correctly

2. Outfits are for sure built, but in the preview window for bodyslide it shows all the restraints as having no textures? 

3. reinstalled with a fresh download and still in the same position

 

So idk what im missing, could be right in front of me for all i know at this point

load order

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[Elsidia]

4 hours ago, cokacora said:

Outfits are for sure built, but in the preview window for bodyslide it shows all the restraints as having no textures? 

You answer on your own question.

You mod game path is incorrect or not activated.

Check paths in BodySlide

Check path in Mod organizer and if it MO2 activate all folders

 

[veebars]

What is the "correct" way to add DD items to NPCs as worn using a plugin (ESx)? Add to an OTFT? Add to Items? Which item (inventory or other)? Using a script? If there's a mod that does this, I'm happy to pointed at that for examples. I didn't just download some and look because I wouldn't know if a particular mod was doing this in a problematic or deprecated way or not. If there's "developer" docs somewhere (probably right under my nose!), please just point me there.

Edited December 20, 2023 by veebars

[Cornoholio]

On 12/19/2023 at 1:13 PM, seville said:

so has this mod been updated yet? when i try to run skse i get a notif that this mods ddlls are not current and incompatible. I see people talking as if the mods been updated but the download link still says its version 5.2.7 which is the version i had installed. Any help would be appreciated.

I had the same. If you're running the version I do install this over it and it will work:

At least it did in my case. You'll need the whole faster-SMP thing. I'm still trying to figure out why many an armors HDT-cloth won't work, even if the body does though. If anybody has any idea on that... I have HDT-skirts and mantles stay static while the boobies bounce and jiggle, it's most vexing.

[zarantha]

19 hours ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I know you're going to feel like this is a stupid question, but given the general confusion so many others are having, I feel like there's probably some sort of a vocabulary barrier going on in this conversation.

 

It seems what you're telling me to do essentially is to install the main file on this thread, then intall this over it.

https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=1739421&key=041defcb263f74c5c44e8e8c22a4bb69 130.52 kB · 297 downloads

 

Is that correct?

 

If not, would you be so kind as to link the correct file in a response?

 

Also answered previously. But yes, install Devious Devices SE, then install DD NG over the top of it.

 

 

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, randy1990 said:

game crashes after the update when I have Devious Devices installed what can I do?

 

You need to get or look at a crash log. There are several mods out in the wild causing crashes when used with DD. DD is not the root cause of your crashes. 

If you have consoleutils, disable that or try the NG version that just updated. Otherwise, I can't you what's causing the crashes without  a crash log, just that it's not DD.

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, testingais said:

Hi everyone

I have Skyrim SE upgradad to AE

 

I have several mods installed, all of them towards installind Devious Devices (5.2, NG)

The moment I activate DD, Skyrim CTD when I try to start a new game (or load a savegame); if I disable, everything works fine (or at least, it appears to)

 

I know to give any help you need a log; so my first question is; what tool do I have to install to create such a log, and where do i get it?

 

 

 

 

 

Either trainwreck or crash logger se ae vr.

But if you have consoleutils, same advise as the one i gave in the post just above. disable it or try consoleutils ng.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106440

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, veebars said:

What is the "correct" way to add DD items to NPCs as worn using a plugin (ESx)? Add to an OTFT? Add to Items? Which item (inventory or other)? Using a script? If there's a mod that does this, I'm happy to pointed at that for examples. I didn't just download some and look because I wouldn't know if a particular mod was doing this in a problematic or deprecated way or not. If there's "developer" docs somewhere (probably right under my nose!), please just point me there.

 

If you just give them the item, they should wear it. Items seen in the inventory menu. You could probably just add the inventory item as an outfit, but I can't really give advice on adding DDs to NPCs because in my experience it causes more problems than it's worth.  Others do though, so your mileage may vary.

 

If you want examples, take a look at some of the NPCs like the dollmaker and the ones in the whip and chain inn and see how they were done in Deviously Cursed Loot.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, Cornoholio said:

I had the same. If you're running the version I do install this over it and it will work:

At least it did in my case. You'll need the whole faster-SMP thing. I'm still trying to figure out why many an armors HDT-cloth won't work, even if the body does though. If anybody has any idea on that... I have HDT-skirts and mantles stay static while the boobies bounce and jiggle, it's most vexing.

 

DId you install version 2.1.0? If not, give that a shot. Not working physics usually means you installed the wrong DLL for your game and that one should automatically pick the right version for you. If you've got 3BA or BHUNP, your working body physics could be CBPC and not SMP.  If that version doesn't help, I'd recommend going to the FSMP discord and asking for help there.

[petterparker]

Dark Fog mode does not work because Console Util SSE is outdated and does not work with the latest version of Skyrim...

[Bane Master]

32 minutes ago, petterparker said:

Dark Fog mode does not work because Console Util SSE is outdated and does not work with the latest version of Skyrim...

 

Give ConsoleUtilSSE NG a try - working fine in my testing

[nopse0]

Is the DD SL animation "DD_SH_YokeMiss1" broken ?

 

I have installed Cursed Loot, but if this animation is started nothing happens (female pc with female npc => scene ends immediately, female pc with male npc => scene is stuck in the alignment phase).

 

To the other discussions here, installing DD NG on top of DD works perfectly with AE 1.6.1130 (don't forget to install OAR).

[cokacora]

16 hours ago, Elsidia said:

You answer on your own question.

You mod game path is incorrect or not activated.

Check paths in BodySlide

Check path in Mod organizer and if it MO2 activate all folders

 

figured it would be something simple...but im still a bit confused, where should the path be going to? its currently set up as pictured below, should it be pointing towards my mods folder? 

Spoiler

Im gonna mess around with it for a bit, but any quick insights so i don't blind right over the issue would be nice

 

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, cokacora said:

figured it would be something simple...but im still a bit confused, where should the path be going to? its currently set up as pictured below, should it be pointing towards my mods folder? 

  Hide contents

Im gonna mess around with it for a bit, but any quick insights so i don't blind right over the issue would be nice

 

 

add \data to the end of the game data path

 

and installing in program files is not necessarily the greatest thing for modding. if you continue to run into problems look into moving your steam library out of that path.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, nopse0 said:

Is the DD SL animation "DD_SH_YokeMiss1" broken ?

 

I have installed Cursed Loot, but if this animation is started nothing happens (female pc with female npc => scene ends immediately, female pc with male npc => scene is stuck in the alignment phase).

 

To the other discussions here, installing DD NG on top of DD works perfectly with AE 1.6.1130 (don't forget to install OAR).

 

No idea, no one else has complained. But DD NG is also fixing and adding animations, so you might look at installing that on top of DD.

[Cornoholio]

15 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

DId you install version 2.1.0? If not, give that a shot. Not working physics usually means you installed the wrong DLL for your game and that one should automatically pick the right version for you. If you've got 3BA or BHUNP, your working body physics could be CBPC and not SMP.  If that version doesn't help, I'd recommend going to the FSMP discord and asking for help there.

Nah, I installed full SMP setup, and it works!

 

Well, as long as my char is naked it does, but the moment I use SMP clothing - see for yourself: #

 

That's an SMP-skirt, from a coco-outfit. They all do that - with boobs bouncing at the same time. I don't even have CBPC installed!

[Ionenschatten]

Got two one issues which seem incredibly stupid. I probably just messed something up.

 

1. On LE, I could "manipulate" the locks of most DDs in order to quickly put them on and simply check how they look, then removing them again.

This option is missing in SE.
EDIT: It's not. It's an option in the settings I overlooked. I'm tired.

 

2. Additionally, I am unable to find basic catsuits that go from neck to wrists and ankles. I'd ask whether I am stupid but I probably am, what am I doing wrong?

I found the hobble skirts and the gloves and heels and socks and straitjackets and the rope and the funny-colored catsuits and boxsuits (they weren't in LE, I love em!)...

 

but where are the basic colored cat suits? My cat desperately needs them!

Edited December 21, 2023 by Ionenschatten
I'm dumb and overlooked something

[largestack]

On 12/6/2023 at 8:59 PM, zarantha said:

 

 

As Duncan mentioned, you can use Devious Devices NG. Or you can use the NG DLL on the troubleshooting post.

Awesome, installing this fixed and having it later in the load order fixed the DeviousDevices.dll error for the December 2023 game version 1.6.1130.0.

[Renrsir]

machine translation

The High security slave roots in this mod and the slave electric shock shoes of the same model will become straw sandals after being equipped, but the sound effect is normal. Does anyone know why?

My versions are dd5.2 and dcl9.0.

[Renrsir]

8 minutes ago, Renrsir said:

machine translation

The High security slave roots in this mod and the slave electric shock shoes of the same model will become straw sandals after being equipped, but the sound effect is normal. Does anyone know why?

My versions are dd5.2 and dcl9.0.

Like this

[Elsidia]

22 hours ago, Cornoholio said:

I don't even have CBPC installed!

Repeating second time HDT SMP doesn't have cloth physics! It can emulate breasts, butt physics, so it works on naked body. For cloth physics is ONLY CBPC. So.... do your own conlusion.

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Elsidia

[Cornoholio]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Repeating second time HDT SMP doesn't have cloth physics! It can emulate breasts, butt physics, so it works on naked body. For cloth physics is ONLY CBPC. So.... do your own conlusion.

 

Argh. I could swear I didn't read anything about that... so what do I do, if I want that CBPC to animate that cloth? Just install it and make sure it doesn't overwrite the whole SMP deal? I want my body to stay the way it is after all... Can you recommend a specific file, or do I just plug in this one:

 

CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE and VR (NEXUS)

 

Edit: Got it! You'll need this file of you have the same thing going:

 

CBPC 3-Bone Breast Body Breast-Butt Bounce Configs for 3BA-BHUNP-COCO (NEXUS)

 

Just klick "do not install" for all of the offered jiggly-things.

Edited December 22, 2023 by Cornoholio
found solution

[Antiope_Apollonia]

On 12/20/2023 at 3:02 PM, veebars said:

What is the "correct" way to add DD items to NPCs as worn using a plugin (ESx)? Add to an OTFT? Add to Items? Which item (inventory or other)? Using a script? If there's a mod that does this, I'm happy to pointed at that for examples. I didn't just download some and look because I wouldn't know if a particular mod was doing this in a problematic or deprecated way or not. If there's "developer" docs somewhere (probably right under my nose!), please just point me there.

Download the Non-DD Masterlist from @Corsec's Lewd Patches page, and make outfits (OTFT) using those in a plugin.  They use the visuals from DDs, but without the scripted functionality.  Having a bunch of NPCs in the world running DD scripts tends to cause trouble.