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zarantha

zarantha

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59 minutes ago, corey25 said:

the devices are invisible on characters ive run bodyslide can someone help me

 

 

Run bodyslide and build all the DD outfits. Make sure your output is going to the right place.

There's a mini guide on the troubleshooting post.

zarantha

zarantha

Posted
Posted
42 minutes ago, Schrage said:

Hello, can anyone help me? I can't download it on mega, is there another link for download?

 

There are google drive links on the troubleshooting post for downloading it. Both for DD 5.1 and the 5.2 beta.

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Elsidia

Elsidia

Posted
Posted
20 hours ago, Miauzi said:

Is the additional damage the "shock" damage that knocks the player down while "running"?

It's named "Slave shock boots"

TacoTimeTV

TacoTimeTV

Posted
Posted

Having a problem where Devious Devices catsuits clip on my characters boobs, but not on any NPC's. The catsuits in Bodyslide don't have any clipping issues either, only in game, and on my character. Catsuits from Cursed Loot seem to be fine, but any of the new recoloured ones have issues. (i.e Cyan or purple catsuits). 

 

I'd appreciate any help.

zarantha

zarantha

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, TacoTimeTV said:

Having a problem where Devious Devices catsuits clip on my characters boobs, but not on any NPC's. The catsuits in Bodyslide don't have any clipping issues either, only in game, and on my character. Catsuits from Cursed Loot seem to be fine, but any of the new recoloured ones have issues. (i.e Cyan or purple catsuits). 

 

I'd appreciate any help.

 

if it's just you, check your preset. Does it show up if you select DD's catsuits? There's 3 of them. ebonite, transparent, and zipsuit

are you using something like unique character?

 

The colors have always been there btw. All that was done was change the style a bit. and they all share the same mesh with the black/ebonite catsuit.

 

Make sure nothing is overwriting your bodyslide output.

Make sure you are using the right bodyslide for your body. Using a CBBE bodyslide when you have 3BA will cause clipping, especially during movement because 3ba's weights are different This is due to the 3 breast bones, CBBE only has one breast bone.

 

Also, if you have something changing your body to extremes (chaurus or egg pregnancy mods, milk mods, etc) then there will usually be clipping at extremes. there's no way to make sure it all doesn't clip without making the normal sizes look weird or ridiculous.

LordAdlerblut

LordAdlerblut

Posted
Posted
On 5/15/2022 at 10:27 PM, zarantha said:

 

After uninstalling nemesis, you reinstalled DD and reran FNIS right? nemesis has a tendency to overwrite fnis files and that requires the mods with fnis animations to be reinstalled to restore the animations to a pre nemesis state.

 

If you're using NMM, that's going to make it very hard to troubleshoot this. Both MO2 and Vortex have ways of tracking files so you know what file came from what mod. NMM just tosses everything together and if you don't know where something is from, you're kinda screwed.

 

You also need to know if you have any patches or other mods overwriting DD scripts. NMM can't do this.

For DD 5.1 (.7 is actually the archive extension .7z ), you should only have DD 5.1 installed. You should not have any separate installations for DDa, DDi, DDx, or DDc. If you have those installed separately, uninstall them.

 

If you want to stay with NMM, then uninstall ALL your mods, nuke your skyrim install and reinstall skyrim from steam. Then install skse and DD and it's requirements ONLY and start a new game to test the armbinders.

 

Otherwise, I'd recommend you move to MO2 or Vortex and test from there. You should still nuke skyrim and reinstall it because leftover files in the data folder can cause hard to diagnose problems. Vortex will clean up after itself if you purge the mods, and MO2 never sticks anything in data so it's always clean. Which one you want is up to you.

1.Sorry for not answering for the entrire week i Wasnt at home.

2. I thought NMM was Vortex aka. Nexus Mod manager. Then i dont have NMM i Have Vortex. 

3. Well.. I guess its time for the Nuke... FML.,, I only used the Following Mods and still no armbinding.

4. 

Spoiler

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
           battlenymphs.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 12  c     SkyUI_SE.esp
 13  d     UIExtensions.esp
 14  e     RaceMenu.esp
 15  f     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 16 10     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
254 FE   0 Devious Devices SE patch.esp
 17 11     FNIS.esp
 18 12     AddItemMenuSE.esp
254 FE   1 3BBB.esp
 19 13     CBBE.esp
 20 14     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 21 15     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 22 16     XPMSE.esp
 23 17     GlevLoadScreens.esp
254 FE   2 LoadingScreens.esp
 24 18     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 

 

LordAdlerblut

LordAdlerblut

Posted
Posted
29 minutes ago, LordAdlerblut said:

1.Sorry for not answering for the entrire week i Wasnt at home.

2. I thought NMM was Vortex aka. Nexus Mod manager. Then i dont have NMM i Have Vortex. 

3. Well.. I guess its time for the Nuke... FML.,, I only used the Following Mods and still no armbinding.

4. 

  Reveal hidden contents

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
           battlenymphs.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 12  c     SkyUI_SE.esp
 13  d     UIExtensions.esp
 14  e     RaceMenu.esp
 15  f     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 16 10     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
254 FE   0 Devious Devices SE patch.esp
 17 11     FNIS.esp
 18 12     AddItemMenuSE.esp
254 FE   1 3BBB.esp
 19 13     CBBE.esp
 20 14     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 21 15     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 22 16     XPMSE.esp
 23 17     GlevLoadScreens.esp
254 FE   2 LoadingScreens.esp
 24 18     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 

 

Also Tested with this Load List: but still only armbinding animation while running and being in "combat mode"

Spoiler

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
           battlenymphs.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 12  c     SkyUI_SE.esp
 13  d     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 14  e     UIExtensions.esp
 15  f     RaceMenu.esp
 16 10     XPMSE.esp
 17 11     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 18 12     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
254 FE   0 Devious Devices SE patch.esp
 19 13     FNIS.esp
 20 14     AddItemMenuSE.esp
254 FE   1 3BBB.esp
 21 15     CBBE.esp
 22 16     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 23 17     GlevLoadScreens.esp
254 FE   2 LoadingScreens.esp
 24 18     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 

 

zarantha

zarantha

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, LordAdlerblut said:

Also Tested with this Load List: but still only armbinding animation while running and being in "combat mode"

  Hide contents

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
           battlenymphs.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 12  c     SkyUI_SE.esp
 13  d     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 14  e     UIExtensions.esp
 15  f     RaceMenu.esp
 16 10     XPMSE.esp
 17 11     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 18 12     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
254 FE   0 Devious Devices SE patch.esp
 19 13     FNIS.esp
 20 14     AddItemMenuSE.esp
254 FE   1 3BBB.esp
 21 15     CBBE.esp
 22 16     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 23 17     GlevLoadScreens.esp
254 FE   2 LoadingScreens.esp
 24 18     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 

 

 

Either of those should be fine. Did you use console commands or add item menu to get the armbinder?

 

When testing, don't use anything from DDa. Use the items from DDx.

 

LordAdlerblut

LordAdlerblut

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Either of those should be fine. Did you use console commands or add item menu to get the armbinder?

 

When testing, don't use anything from DDa. Use the items from DDx.

 

I am using Add Item Menu. but i just took a armbinder through searching by item.

Gimme a sec

Overtheedge

Overtheedge

Posted
Posted

Hi. I have a general question about DD. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm trying to do something I can't. Anyways.

 

In the SE compatibility thread

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-may-8-??-7197/


under animations, one of the categories is "Bondage". Mousing over it, it says "Uses ZaZ/Devious-stype accessories or furniture - gags, yokes, pillories, racks, etc"


I installed some of these animations packs with the "bondage" label, they install OK, no errors.

 

I try to use them with Devious armbinders.

 

I try various settings under ZAZ/DD/Sexlab/etc.

 

Either I get the animation and there is no actual armbinder, she is just holding her arms as IF she was in an armbiner (there are no invisible body parts as if I used Bodyslide wrong)...

 

Or I get only one of the 5 original animations from within DD for armbinders (doggy,missionary,oral,cowgirl,boobjob).

 

I seem to be unable to get any armbinder animations working with these extra animation packs.

 

(I've tried DD 5.1 as well as beta6 5.2)

 

Is this an armbinder-specific problem?
Do all other DD devices work with these animation packs?
Is the "Bondage" mouse-over wrong/outdated?
Is my SE setup bad?
Am I just dumb?

 

Thanks for any info!

 

zarantha

zarantha

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Overtheedge said:

Hi. I have a general question about DD. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm trying to do something I can't. Anyways.

 

In the SE compatibility thread

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-may-8-??-7197/


under animations, one of the categories is "Bondage". Mousing over it, it says "Uses ZaZ/Devious-stype accessories or furniture - gags, yokes, pillories, racks, etc"


I installed some of these animations packs with the "bondage" label, they install OK, no errors.

 

I try to use them with Devious armbinders.

 

I try various settings under ZAZ/DD/Sexlab/etc.

 

Either I get the animation and there is no actual armbinder, she is just holding her arms as IF she was in an armbiner (there are no invisible body parts as if I used Bodyslide wrong)...

 

Or I get only one of the 5 original animations from within DD for armbinders (doggy,missionary,oral,cowgirl,boobjob).

 

I seem to be unable to get any armbinder animations working with these extra animation packs.

 

(I've tried DD 5.1 as well as beta6 5.2)

 

Is this an armbinder-specific problem?
Do all other DD devices work with these animation packs?
Is the "Bondage" mouse-over wrong/outdated?
Is my SE setup bad?
Am I just dumb?

 

Thanks for any info!

 

 

You're trying to do something not right.

Can't speak for ZAZ, but DD has those animations built in already. you don't need to install additional animations, and DD won't use them even if you do.

For DD's animations, you need the armbinder to actually be equipped before they play. The animation itself does not include the armbinder. If you're forcing it to play somehow, i would expect the armbinder to not be there.

 

For the animations you installed that are not part of DD, just forcing the animations to play, depending on who did it, it may or may not include the actual bondage device. You'd need to look at the installer or ask on the animation thread. Because if you use those animations, it will not be DD triggering them.

 

From billyy's (the only one i know with bondage animations included), the description basically says it will work as you say it is.

image.png.482aaff8ca3b4b09fd3530588e7c6f91.png

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Overtheedge

Overtheedge

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

You're trying to do something not right.

Can't speak for ZAZ, but DD has those animations built in already. you don't need to install additional animations, and DD won't use them even if you do.

For DD's animations, you need the armbinder to actually be equipped before they play. The animation itself does not include the armbinder. If you're forcing it to play somehow, i would expect the armbinder to not be there.

 

For the animations you installed that are not part of DD, just forcing the animations to play, depending on who did it, it may or may not include the actual bondage device. You'd need to look at the installer or ask on the animation thread. Because if you use those animations, it will not be DD triggering them.

 

From billyy's (the only one i know with bondage animations included), the description basically says it will work as you say it is.

image.png.482aaff8ca3b4b09fd3530588e7c6f91.png

OK, so these packs sim you having the devices on, or have them specifically built in. OK, I'm starting to get it now. OK, so the only reliable way to have animations with DD objects is to use DD animations only. OK, I can work with that. (DD mods are infinitely better than what I could code anyways (which is none ;) ). So I'll just stick with working with you all on the the "change animation set" hotkey not working with DD devices during DD animations. (How is that going, btw? Do I need to send more papryus logs?)

zarantha

zarantha

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, Overtheedge said:

OK, so these packs sim you having the devices on, or have them specifically built in. OK, I'm starting to get it now. OK, so the only reliable way to have animations with DD objects is to use DD animations only. OK, I can work with that. (DD mods are infinitely better than what I could code anyways (which is none ;) ). So I'll just stick with working with you all on the the "change animation set" hotkey not working with DD devices during DD animations. (How is that going, btw? Do I need to send more papryus logs?)

 

If she hasn't asked for more info, she likely has enough. Even if she doesn't respond, she looks at most posts on her threads, it's just she usually pays more attention to the LE and dev threads. That's why i had you post there, to be sure she saw it.

 

What happens next is we wait for the next beta and see if it's fixed there. That could be a few weeks or somewhere around a month. Depends on how much kimy has on her plate.

 

There is a DD github, but it hasn't been used in a while. So all the effort is on kimy and wherever she keeps her repository. There's usually not much feedback unless she needed more info.

Overtheedge

Overtheedge

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

If she hasn't asked for more info, she likely has enough. Even if she doesn't respond, she looks at most posts on her threads, it's just she usually pays more attention to the LE and dev threads. That's why i had you post there, to be sure she saw it.

 

What happens next is we wait for the next beta and see if it's fixed there. That could be a few weeks or somewhere around a month. Depends on how much kimy has on her plate.

 

There is a DD github, but it hasn't been used in a while. So all the effort is on kimy and wherever she keeps her repository. There's usually not much feedback unless she needed more info.

Oh, there will be a next beta? How many more betas before 5.2 release? (Just curious, I've never been involved with DD beta before, also wondering if there's time for me to find more bugs - no point if 5.2 is about to be released...)

zarantha

zarantha

Posted
Posted
39 minutes ago, Overtheedge said:

Oh, there will be a next beta? How many more betas before 5.2 release? (Just curious, I've never been involved with DD beta before, also wondering if there's time for me to find more bugs - no point if 5.2 is about to be released...)

 

Until kimy feels it's ready for release. there's no set number of betas.

 

I figure there's going to be at least one more because of a few other things she's said she will fix, and I think we're on the way to convincing her to make a DAR version of the animations available, which should help with all the armbinder issues people have, and make nemesis less of a hit or miss option.

Overtheedge

Overtheedge

Posted
Posted
6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Until kimy feels it's ready for release. there's no set number of betas.

 

I figure there's going to be at least one more because of a few other things she's said she will fix, and I think we're on the way to convincing her to make a DAR version of the animations available, which should help with all the armbinder issues people have, and make nemesis less of a hit or miss option.

From what I understand, DAR is mainly for modders and not end users?

chaimhewast

chaimhewast

Posted
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, LordAdlerblut said:

Alright got one here. I hope..

I'm seeing some errors related to Nemesis in your log. That mod's been known to cause similar issues with animations for Devious Devices.

Edited by chaimhewast

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