Devious Devices SE

[alexsl]

Hi so the bodyslide issue seem to have been resolve. Altough i still wonder why are chain or cuff doesnt actually bind the hand of my character ? I google it and i saw it ask for Zaz animation SE which i downloaded, but my hand are still unbound despite having cuff.

Edited January 1, 2022 by alexsl

[zarantha]

On 12/31/2021 at 11:42 AM, Dante551 said:

Im having a few problems, and i assume im doing something wrong, but im not quite sure what so was wondering if i could get some help or pointed in the right direction.

 

im running the SE version(5.1 DD and 9.0 DCL respectively), and the issue i am having is three fold:

 

The DCL 3BBB download link in the troubleshooting section is broke, or at least its telling me it is, not sure if i need it or if its contained in something else??

 

Using the safe word from DCL crashes my game during the removal of items, not sure whats causing that, but i found out this morning while trying to clear up issue three below, and its a minor thing to begin with.

 

the most biggest one though is i cannot for the life of me get a few items to appear from both DCL and DD, ive ran body slide several times, and made sure the items im having issues with are selected, but they just dont appear, one makes my hands go transparent. The Pony tail, the Paw Mittens and (I think, i cant actually check) the pony mask thing?

 

Everything else works from what ive seen so far.

 

Just checked, the DCL 3BBB link is still active and  correct. Try from another browser, or with a VPN. It is not yet contained in anything else.

https://mega.nz/file/8GYmGSYL#NenQzfc8Ni7ReXYJabsueUqpOyiHa63P-CEXreDG-H0

 

Paw mittens are the only things with a bodyslide. If the others are not appearing, it could be race related. What are you?

I think some things are not yet working in DCL that are for beast races. There is a new patch in the DD 5.2 beta, you could try that. The latest beta is in the DD troubleshooting post. (I'm slacking on keeping the DCL troubleshooting post in sync).

 

Don't recommend using safe word, it has some issues although CTD is a new one for me. I'd recommend using another mod, device devices equip instead to remove items that aren't removing when expected.

[zarantha]

On 12/31/2021 at 11:58 AM, Neonnimbus said:

Does anyone know what would cause gags to unequip when starting a SL animation? I had no issues previously but I recently added a few combat mods and now starting animations with gags equipped unequips them for the scene.

 

Edit: Did a reinstall of DD and issue still occurs

 

What do you have checked or unchecked in DD on the animations tab MCM?

If you unchecked some of the selections, devices are temporarily removed during the animation so you can have more animations and will be equipped again when done. This is expected.

[zarantha]

22 hours ago, alexsl said:

Then you said there could be conflict between the mod, but I pretty sure that normaly Vortex (my mod manager) pick up on those conflict because I've seen it when there was conflict but i the moment i do not have any warning.

 

It is possible for a mod to conflict without there being file conflicts. That's how we have an incompatible mods section in the troubleshooting post. File conflicts are all that Vortex will warn you about.

 

So yes, at this point disable everything except DD and it's requirements and test on a new game. It should work. Unfortunately, this is the downside of modding, putting in a lot of work after adding a bunch of mods. there is no magical workaround. Once DD is working, then slowly add new mods one by one.

 

15 hours ago, alexsl said:

Well so on the note of Bodyslide i got no preset at all where every video tutorial i seen when they open bodyslide it come with the preset so ive google and found possibily some preset for new race and some, but either way i dont know why their was complete with preset while mine issnt and reinstalling doesnt fix it.

 

What body are you using and what is the preset name you use for your body? I fixed presets for DD for  CBBE, there should be no issue with the default presets. If you have a preset intended for another body, there will be more work on your end to get it working.

 

But if you're having issues with other armors, then it's something with your bodyslide configuration or how you're running it. I'd suggest asking for help on the bodyslide page then. This thread is for DD, if you have a general bodyslide issue, it's better to ask there.

 

6 hours ago, alexsl said:

I am reposting since ive gone unanswered

 

This is a community forum, not a supported chat where you can expect a response based on SLA. Please have some patience. We are all doing this in our free time.

I'm just now catching up.

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, Wallthebruce said:

 

I have the same problem but I have the last version of Racemenu SE (V0-4-16) , DD SE (5.1) and the DCL SE (9.0) can it be a issue with the AE update?

 

Yes, it's the AE update, because the latest Nexus Racemenu does not support AE. Those errors occur when skee is not working or when the new scripts are overwritten with old scripts.

 

Racemenu AE (not on Nexus yet): https://www.patreon.com/m/794675/posts

 

And as Elsidia mentioned, get the DD beta from the troubleshooting post as well.

[zarantha]

11 hours ago, Kisobel said:

This mod shows as being Form 43 which is not support in Legendary Edition, Special Edition, OR Anniversary Edition (Form 43 is Windows 32 Oldrim format). This mod will not work correctly till its been fixed

 

Form 43 is fine. SE can read form 43 with no errors and the mod will work correctly.

 

However, because of bullshit complaints like this, I have started converting the esms. You can install the DD 5.2 beta. Or you know, just do a little reading on the subject in this thread. It's been mentioned hundreds of times.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, alexsl said:

Hi so the bodyslide issue seem to have been resolve. Altough i still wonder why are chain or cuff doesnt actually bind the hand of my character ? I google it and i saw it ask for Zaz animation SE which i downloaded, but my hand are still unbound despite having cuff.

 

Troubleshooting post:

 

No, the ZAZ animation pack is not required, and it will not fix this issue. This is an SMP limitation.

The only chains that work well are the ankle cuffs. The wrist chains are the worst. With the wrist chains, the best I've been able to do is get the chains so they are dangling in place, and not flying all over. The prisoner chains are somewhere in between. they get the character in the right pose, and the chains start in the approximate right position, but they don't connect.

 

Maybe when shizof (author of CBPC) is able to get cloth/hair physics working, we'll have a real fix, but right now, it is working as well as it can, and is nowhere near how LE worked.

[alexsl]

5 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Troubleshooting post:

 

No, the ZAZ animation pack is not required, and it will not fix this issue. This is an SMP limitation.

The only chains that work well are the ankle cuffs. The wrist chains are the worst. With the wrist chains, the best I've been able to do is get the chains so they are dangling in place, and not flying all over. The prisoner chains are somewhere in between. they get the character in the right pose, and the chains start in the approximate right position, but they don't connect.

 

Maybe when shizof (author of CBPC) is able to get cloth/hair physics working, we'll have a real fix, but right now, it is working as well as it can, and is nowhere near how LE worked.

 

I see ! But i was refering to either the armbinder where the arm doesnt get into it as i tought it should or the yoke. It does go on the breast or neck but the the end doesnt go in it. But I suppose that what your saying

[zarantha]

8 minutes ago, alexsl said:

 

I see ! But i was refering to either the armbinder where the arm doesnt get into it as i tought it should or the yoke. It does go on the breast or neck but the the end doesnt go in it. But I suppose that what your saying

 

Nope, I thought you were talking about the HDT wrist restraints, not the Armbinder.

 

Armbinder is a pose, it can be superseded by other mods using custom idle animations. This goes back to where I mentioned taking your load order apart. If you've got other mods that change the animations, like player 360 move, that will cause problems. But there's no way for me to tell at this point.

 

If you post your mod list (not the plugin list) in a spoiler, I can look for know problems. I'm looking for mod list, because some of the mods that have caused problems don't have a plugin. If it's something new, disabling mods and testing with a minimal load order is the only way to tell. You can use one of the following two options to get a mod list from Vortex.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/52958

https://modwat.ch/

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

Maybe when shizof (author of CBPC) is able to get cloth/hair physics working, we'll have a real fix

 

Yes, that would be very nice. I have been using CBPC Equipment physics since it was released and it works really well.

[alexsl]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Nope, I thought you were talking about the HDT wrist restraints, not the Armbinder.

 

Armbinder is a pose, it can be superseded by other mods using custom idle animations. This goes back to where I mentioned taking your load order apart. If you've got other mods that change the animations, like player 360 move, that will cause problems. But there's no way for me to tell at this point.

 

If you post your mod list (not the plugin list) in a spoiler, I can look for know problems. I'm looking for mod list, because some of the mods that have caused problems don't have a plugin. If it's something new, disabling mods and testing with a minimal load order is the only way to tell. You can use one of the following two options to get a mod list from Vortex.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/52958

https://modwat.ch/

Ah well i got that to work. So here is the requested modlist

[zarantha]

10 minutes ago, alexsl said:

Ah well i got that to work. So here is the requested modlist

 

Looks like it only captured the plugins and not the mods too.

 

Devious Lore has caused problems in the past, but I believe that was more a lock/unlock issue. I would still test without it.

I don't know petproject or the facility, so if removing devious lore doesn't fix the armbinders, i'd try those next.

 

immerslave has not been updated for more than 5 years, it very well could be incompatible with the current DD. The last posts were in 2019, which would mean DD 4.3 or older.

I think i know some others using it, so it may not be a problem. I just don't know.

 

slaverun reloaded - did you get everything it needs? another one i  don't personally know or use, but may be ok.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-dec-26?-6901-✔sexlab-✔dd-beta-✔faster-hdt-✔dar-❌net-sf/

 

[Neonnimbus]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

What do you have checked or unchecked in DD on the animations tab MCM?

If you unchecked some of the selections, devices are temporarily removed during the animation so you can have more animations and will be equipped again when done. This is expected.

 

Everything is checked on the animations tab in the DD MCM. Regardless of what kind of animation it is, gags will be unequipped but not re-equipped and show as equipped in the inventory and that specific gag will loses DD function. I can just drop it on the ground and trying to put it on does pop up the device menu. This only happens with gags and no other DD item.

[zarantha]

18 minutes ago, Neonnimbus said:

 

Everything is checked on the animations tab in the DD MCM. Regardless of what kind of animation it is, gags will be unequipped but not re-equipped and show as equipped in the inventory and that specific gag will loses DD function. I can just drop it on the ground and trying to put it on does pop up the device menu. This only happens with gags and no other DD item.

 

What other devious mods do you have? I've never seen this problem.

Is it a DD gag, or a gag from another mod?

[Neonnimbus]

14 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

What other devious mods do you have? I've never seen this problem.

Is it a DD gag, or a gag from another mod?

 

It is a DD gag. I have other DD mods like cursed loot, simple slavery++, devious equip but it was all working fine before. I didn't have this issue on a previous save but this happened on a new one I started because I added and removed non essential mods. I loaded an older MO2 profile that has DD and SL but nothing script heavy and the issue still happens then so I think something got overridden filewise. DD gags still have the nostrip keyword from sexlab though. Will reinstall sexlab and see what happens.

Edited January 2, 2022 by Neonnimbus

[zarantha]

12 minutes ago, Neonnimbus said:

 

It is a DD gag. I have other DD mods like cursed loot, simple slavery++, devious equip but it was all working fine before. I didn't have this issue on a previous save but this happened on a new one I started because I added and removed non essential mods. I loaded an older MO2 profile that has DD and SL but nothing script heavy and the issue still happens then so I think something got overridden filewise. DD gags still have the nostrip keyword from sexlab though. Will reinstall sexlab and see what happens.

 

You may also need to reinstall DD.

[Neonnimbus]

46 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

You may also need to reinstall DD.

 

I did a reinstall of both and no luck. Also learned that it removes anything that takes up slot 44 including zaz gags and any armor even though I have that slot filtered as do not unequip for all animation types.

Edited January 2, 2022 by Neonnimbus

[Derangers]

3 hours ago, Neonnimbus said:

 

It is a DD gag. I have other DD mods like cursed loot, simple slavery++, devious equip but it was all working fine before. I didn't have this issue on a previous save but this happened on a new one I started because I added and removed non essential mods. I loaded an older MO2 profile that has DD and SL but nothing script heavy and the issue still happens then so I think something got overridden filewise. DD gags still have the nostrip keyword from sexlab though. Will reinstall sexlab and see what happens.

I have the same problem, I have upgraded to DD SE 5.2 Beta 3.

[Neonnimbus]

12 minutes ago, Derangers said:

I have the same problem, I have upgraded to DD SE 5.2 Beta 3.

 

I am on DD SE 5.1 and have had no issues until this past week. Dunno what happened because I made no changes with and sexlab based mod

Edited January 2, 2022 by Neonnimbus

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Neonnimbus said:

I am on DD SE 5.1 and have had no issues until this past week. Dunno what happened because I made no changes with and sexlab based mod

What mod triggered sex scene with gag removing?

 

[Wallthebruce]

This driving me crazy... since the AE, I have all reinstalled. I have the last version of racemenu, install as advised the 5.2 beta for DD but still have Netimmerse overide missing issue (I can find netimmerse in my skyrim folder). on the same side all my other high heel clip in the floor. Racemenu HH don't seem to work. (never had this issues before AE)

[chaimhewast]

19 minutes ago, Wallthebruce said:

This driving me crazy... since the AE, I have all reinstalled. I have the last version of racemenu, install as advised the 5.2 beta for DD but still have Netimmerse overide missing issue (I can find netimmerse in my skyrim folder). on the same side all my other high heel clip in the floor. Racemenu HH don't seem to work. (never had this issues before AE)

It sounds like you have the wrong version of Racemenu. Did you get the one from Nexus (which is still for 1.5.97) or did you get the latest preliminary from Expired's Patreon (which is for 1.6.342)?

[Wallthebruce]

1 minute ago, chaimhewast said:

It sounds like you have the wrong version of Racemenu. Did you get the one from Nexus (which is still for 1.5.97) or did you get the latest preliminary from Expired's Patreon (which is for 1.6.342)?

I have the RaceMenuv0-4-16

[chaimhewast]

1 minute ago, Wallthebruce said:

I have the RaceMenuv0-4-16

Then that's your problem. The one you have is for 1.5.97. You need to update to the versions intended for 1.6.342.

[Wallthebruce]

11 minutes ago, chaimhewast said:

Then that's your problem. The one you have is for 1.5.97. You need to update to the versions intended for 1.6.342.

 men! You are a life saver!! I'll kiss you if I can! They need to put this last version on nexus. Happy new year mate!

Edited January 2, 2022 by Wallthebruce