Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, valentinian said:

Apologies if this was already answered before -- I searched a bit but didn't find anything.  With 3BA bodies, after installing beta 2, the bottom half of the Top Crotch Rope Harnesses / Pentagram Crotch Rope Harnesses seem to have disappeared (as do items that reuse the asset, like the Regular Rope Harness from DCL 9).  The character still responds to and animates as if she was wearing a crotch rope, but just no visuals on the bottom half of the body.

 

This issue seems to persist into beta 3.  Rolling back to 5.1 and removing the 3BA bodyslides seem to fix the problem.

 

I went through a full batch rebuild in Bodyslide every time, but am I installing / building something incorrectly?  Appreciate any insight!

 

Thought I fixed that, maybe it was for something else. I'll update the bodyslides to v0.4 soon.
 

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by zarantha

[valentinian]

10 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Thought I fixed that, maybe it was for something else. I'll update the bodyslides to v0.4 soon.
 

 

Appreciate it! I noticed that you posted in the Dev thread something similar about adding the proper slot, but wasn't sure if it was totally related.  The crotch rope is showing correctly on the "Full" harnesses, but the "Top Crotch Rope", "Simple Crotch Rope" and "Pentagram Crotch Rope" ones (and whatever asset DCL is re-using for its non-full/extreme Rope Harnesses) are not showing.  My hypothesis was the fix in the DD Patch esp specifically fixed the "Full" harnesses but not the other ones.

 

I looked at your patch in Creation Kit to see if I could replicate your fix, but then realized I really had no idea what I was doing...

 

Let me know if there is anything else I can help to debug.

 

 

[zarantha]

52 minutes ago, valentinian said:

Appreciate it! I noticed that you posted in the Dev thread something similar about adding the proper slot, but wasn't sure if it was totally related.  The crotch rope is showing correctly on the "Full" harnesses, but the "Top Crotch Rope", "Simple Crotch Rope" and "Pentagram Crotch Rope" ones (and whatever asset DCL is re-using for its non-full/extreme Rope Harnesses) are not showing.  My hypothesis was the fix in the DD Patch esp specifically fixed the "Full" harnesses but not the other ones.

 

I looked at your patch in Creation Kit to see if I could replicate your fix, but then realized I really had no idea what I was doing...

 

Let me know if there is anything else I can help to debug.

 

 

 

Kinda, but no. It is slot related, but not those slots. The slot the crotch rope is using is 49 in the nif, but the esp says 58. that makes it effectively invisible, since the nif and esp must agree for the item to display. The reason why it's affecting so many, is that I've combined most of the ropes into a single nif to save space, and just use zaps to create each specific outfit.

 

the slots I was particularly concerned with in that post were the forearms and calves slots. See, LE had the whole body as slot 32 (so does 3ba). But CBBE SE has added the forearms and calves to the body as separate partitions. So if they aren't explicitly added, you get a gap between the arm and hand, or leg and foot whenever the body is showing, unless something else (glove, boot) covers that slot. That's been an SE specific issue since we've had SE, because CBBE SE was only following what they did to the vanilla body mesh. You'd end up with that problem if you had no body mods at all.

 

Just testing it out now, and I should have it uploaded soon.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, valentinian said:

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Updated bodyslides are on the troubleshooting post now.

[valentinian]

51 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Updated bodyslides are on the troubleshooting post now.

All good now after the update.  Thank you for the super quick turnaround!  Cheers!

[sennia]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Updated bodyslides are on the troubleshooting post now.

i dunno if this was related, but for me, the normal non-harness crotch ropes have disappeared with this one.  the 'crotch rope', 'black crotch rope'. 'red crotch rope', etc.  i batch-rebuilt stuff like i usually do but they don't show up even if they're the only dd device being worn.  do I have to do something different?

[zarantha]

12 minutes ago, sennia said:

i dunno if this was related, but for me, the normal non-harness crotch ropes have disappeared with this one.  the 'crotch rope', 'black crotch rope'. 'red crotch rope', etc.  i batch-rebuilt stuff like i usually do but they don't show up even if they're the only dd device being worn.  do I have to do something different?

 

I suspect things aren't consistent across the board. checking again. I might have to break out the standalone crotch rope if it's what I suspect.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, sennia said:

i dunno if this was related, but for me, the normal non-harness crotch ropes have disappeared with this one.  the 'crotch rope', 'black crotch rope'. 'red crotch rope', etc.  i batch-rebuilt stuff like i usually do but they don't show up even if they're the only dd device being worn.  do I have to do something different?

 

Try the 0.5 bodyslides please.

Edited December 24, 2021 by zarantha

[sennia]

22 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Try the 0.5 bodyslides please.

thank you!!  problem fixed

[natybs]

sorry to ask this but i just reverted the game and started playing again, and now a lot of npcs no longer make the gag sounds when gagged, including sasha. ic an not find the gags sfx fix for se on lovers lab for some reason does anyone have it?

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, natybs said:

sorry to ask this but i just reverted the game and started playing again, and now a lot of npcs no longer make the gag sounds when gagged, including sasha. ic an not find the gags sfx fix for se on lovers lab for some reason does anyone have it?

 

It's included now. if you mean extra gag sounds, that's a different mod iirc.

 

Are you using 5.1 or the 5.2 beta? Beta 3 should work with AE.

Did you start a new game, or are you continuing on a save from before you upgraded/rolled back skyrim? I would imagine continuing after an upgrade/downgrade would cause problems with many mods.

Check the sounds settings in game, there should be volume controls for gag sounds.

[natybs]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It's included now. if you mean extra gag sounds, that's a different mod iirc.

 

Are you using 5.1 or the 5.2 beta? Beta 3 should work with AE.

Did you start a new game, or are you continuing on a save from before you upgraded/rolled back skyrim? I would imagine continuing after an upgrade/downgrade would cause problems with many mods.

Check the sounds settings in game, there should be volume controls for gag sounds.

so in the devious devices mcm? the sounds work for my character just not for sasha.

and i am useing dd 5.1 i believe. 

i dont see anything about gags in the mcm in sound options/

Edited December 25, 2021 by natybs

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, natybs said:

so in the devious devices mcm? the sounds work for my character just not for sasha.

and i am useing dd 5.1 i believe. 

i dont see anything about gags in the mcm in sound options/

 

Gag sounds don't work for NPCs all the time. Forcing them to do so would break things, as NPCs couldn't say their needed lines.

If you're getting gag sounds for your character, then it's working right.

 

I see it here in audio settings for the game.

Spoiler

 

[natybs]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Gag sounds don't work for NPCs all the time. Forcing them to do so would break things, as NPCs couldn't say their needed lines.

If you're getting gag sounds for your character, then it's working right.

 

I see it here in audio settings for the game.

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ok thank you. mabey it doesnt show up i dd mcm if im in restraints (still looking for sarahs chastity key haha. )

[Lind L Tailor]

Anyone know if there is a SE version of DD 5.2? Cheers

[chaimhewast]

3 minutes ago, Joji vlogs said:

Anyone know if there is a SE version of DD 5.2? Cheers

The troubleshooting post linked in the first reply to this thread has the links for the SE version of the 5.2 beta. I wouldn't use it in a save you care about though, since at the very least the new devices have changed a few times and might not be in the release build of 5.2.

[zarantha]

26 minutes ago, Joji vlogs said:

Anyone know if there is a SE version of DD 5.2? Cheers

 

It's on the troubleshooting post.

 

16 minutes ago, chaimhewast said:

The troubleshooting post linked in the first reply to this thread has the links for the SE version of the 5.2 beta. I wouldn't use it in a save you care about though, since at the very least the new devices have changed a few times and might not be in the release build of 5.2.

 

I've managed to keep up with the changes so it should be fine in that regard. The beta has also been updated with the recent bodyslide fixes I've done. The latest pending change is UNP only and isn't in the LE beta yet.

 

That said, it is still a beta, so for that reason alone it shouldn't be used on serious playthrough, unless the person is on AE and can't roll back for whatever reason.

[Lind L Tailor]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

It's on the troubleshooting post.

 

 

I've managed to keep up with the changes so it should be fine in that regard. The beta has also been updated with the recent bodyslide fixes I've done. The latest pending change is UNP only and isn't in the LE beta yet.

 

That said, it is still a beta, so for that reason alone it shouldn't be used on serious playthrough, unless the person is on AE and can't roll back for whatever reason.

Aight thanks mate!

[bubba999]

Not sure if this is the right place... It's got to do with bodyslide for DD 5.2 beta 3. Most of them are very nice but I noticed that collars no longer go over catsuits, that is, catsuits obscure the collars. Just wanted to point that out.

[Guest]

Hello, i have a small problem.

I am not sure if that is because of Hormones or if i did something wrong.

Anyway, i am running Skyrim SE. My DD mods are below.

 

Everything seems fine really, except that it does not really fit the body. Thats what i do not understand. I am running BUNP and had Bodyslider run with morphs. I even installed the patches etc..

Is this because the body morphs due the hormones mod or is it because i did something wrong with how i ran bodyslide?

I just want to understand and see my error so i can fix it.

Thank you so much

[Snickerer]

So, the crawling animations from petsuits striaght up don't work. Like, they'll get on all fours, but when they're supposed to move they just stand up, is that normal?

[Nerdface111]

I don't suppose anyone knows a fix for being stuck in a bound-hand animation? When I install DD my player gets stuck with their arms bound behind their back. Occasionally while running around they also flash into a pose with their hands bound up on either side of their head, like they are chained to a wall. I can unsheathe my weapons just fine, and combat animations play just fine, but my arms always re-bind when I sheathe. I tried unequipping anything that might share a slot with DD stuff before I installed DD, but that didn't work

 

I'd hate to not run DD, but I'm not going to run around with my arms permanently bound. 

 

Edited December 29, 2021 by Nerdface111

[zarantha]

On 12/28/2021 at 10:04 AM, bubba999 said:

Not sure if this is the right place... It's got to do with bodyslide for DD 5.2 beta 3. Most of them are very nice but I noticed that collars no longer go over catsuits, that is, catsuits obscure the collars. Just wanted to point that out.

 

Which collars? The neck was inflated some to prevent clipping, but it shouldn't have been that much. I'll check, but there may not be much that can be done other than make the collars looser. I'd rather not do that since it may mean extra files to maintain that aren't in bodyslide.

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, wutpickel said:

Hello, i have a small problem.

I am not sure if that is because of Hormones or if i did something wrong.

Anyway, i am running Skyrim SE. My DD mods are below.

 

Everything seems fine really, except that it does not really fit the body. Thats what i do not understand. I am running BUNP and had Bodyslider run with morphs. I even installed the patches etc..

Is this because the body morphs due the hormones mod or is it because i did something wrong with how i ran bodyslide?

I just want to understand and see my error so i can fix it.

Thank you so much

 

 

 

When you installed DD, you chose the UNP options, right?

If so, that's an issue with the bhunp bodyslides. you'll need to ask on that mod.

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, Snickerer said:

So, the crawling animations from petsuits striaght up don't work. Like, they'll get on all fours, but when they're supposed to move they just stand up, is that normal?

 

No, that's not normal. Are you using Nemesis?

Any other mods that change walking/running animations?

 

Check the troubleshooting post.