Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, shaolinducks said:

Hello wonderful DD mod authors, 

Quick question. I'm currently working on my rebuild after the AEpocolypse, and I'm just want to know if the troubleshooting guide post has all of the files I need for AE. If not, what am I missing? If so, thank you and have a blessed day.

 

It has the DD version for AE (DD 5.2 beta 3) in the beta section, but you must use the Racemenu version on Expired's patreon, or many things in DD will be broken. All the other DD requirements should be here in LL or on the Nexus, just make sure you're using the AE/1.6.x versions.

 

Because of the confusion over versions and different ways of phrasing things on the various mods, I'd recommend you go very slowly and make sure each individual prerequisite is working first, and don't just dump everything in and assume it will work.

[zarantha]

59 minutes ago, negative0004 said:

Half of the items are invisible on my character. I've ran bodyslide hundreds of times. reinstalled DD, several times. nothing works. im out of ideas on how to fix it

 

Then you have bodyslide set up incorrectly, or are running it incorrectly with your mod manager.

 

Start with the short how to troubleshoot bodyslide in the troubleshooting post. If you don't know how to run bodyslide, then please read that mod's page or google how to use it with your mod manager.

 

 

[negative0004]

26 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Then you have bodyslide set up incorrectly, or are running it incorrectly with your mod manager.

 

Start with the short how to troubleshoot bodyslide in the troubleshooting post. If you don't know how to run bodyslide, then please read that mod's page or google how to use it with your mod manager.

 

I've done all of that hundreds of times. nothing works. all my other armor and clothing mods work fine through body slide. its like some things for DD is missing textures. if you put on pony boots, the calfs and feet are invisible. or if you put on bondage mitts, the hands are invisible. those are just some examples

 

[negative0004]

41 minutes ago, negative0004 said:

 

ok so after almost a year of agony trying to figure out the problem with the textures. lol it was dumping it into the wrong folder the whole FREAKING TIME. I've been dealing with this for almost a whole year. i feel so stupid. for anybody that reads this, make sure its going into your data folder, NOT the meshes

[shaolinducks]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It has the DD version for AE (DD 5.2 beta 3) in the beta section, but you must use the Racemenu version on Expired's patreon, or many things in DD will be broken. All the other DD requirements should be here in LL or on the Nexus, just make sure you're using the AE/1.6.x versions.

 

Because of the confusion over versions and different ways of phrasing things on the various mods, I'd recommend you go very slowly and make sure each individual prerequisite is working first, and don't just dump everything in and assume it will work.

I should have all of the non DD requirements set up. I just want to be sure, that the link for CBBE\3BA is where I should begin downloading files for an AE DD rebuild.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, shaolinducks said:

I should have all of the non DD requirements set up. I just want to be sure, that the link for CBBE\3BA is where I should begin downloading files for an AE DD rebuild.

 

 

So just this (notice, it has the same version of bodyslides...)

 

 

The only reason for downloading the separate bodyslides is if the fix is not in the beta, or if you aren't using the beta.

 

[LesboIsBesto]

Need some clarification, I recently put Maria Eden in my game alongside Devious Devices (did it in LE too, both with older & newer DD's) & it one of the biggest reasons it worked despite what most would say came from crippling the no talking gag effect Maria Eden had in xEdit. Anticipating that the SE port had it too, I looked for it there but could not find it so I simply ran the game as is & tested gags from both mods & ZaZ. 

 

Upon testing & tracking the dialogue lines in the console, I found that the one & only line I kept running into that stopped me from talking to people wasnt any lines from Maria Eden like the one in LE, it was a line from DD I havent come across before in LE. The [You realize its impossible to talk through the gag] line, so what are we meant to do to get the other available lines as the console shows 4 & I am only getting that^ one from every NPC I talk to as of late?

[zarantha]

38 minutes ago, LesboIsBesto said:

Need some clarification, I recently put Maria Eden in my game alongside Devious Devices (did it in LE too, both with older & newer DD's) & it one of the biggest reasons it worked despite what most would say came from crippling the no talking gag effect Maria Eden had in xEdit. Anticipating that the SE port had it too, I looked for it there but could not find it so I simply ran the game as is & tested gags from both mods & ZaZ. 

 

Upon testing & tracking the dialogue lines in the console, I found that the one & only line I kept running into that stopped me from talking to people wasnt any lines from Maria Eden like the one in LE, it was a line from DD I havent come across before in LE. The [You realize its impossible to talk through the gag] line, so what are we meant to do to get the other available lines as the console shows 4 & I am only getting that^ one from every NPC I talk to as of late?

 

I don't use maria eden. You should be able to get one of the alternate dialogs if you have paper, quill and ink in your inventory.

Otherwise, use a lower difficulty overall for DD. It's a random chance not in the MCM. Since it's a random chance, you are probably just unlucky recently. Skyrim's RNG is not very good.

 

If you have DCL as well, then there are gag options in the consequence tab that can replace DD's gag talk.

If you want to use DD's only, you can set the chance to override DD's gag talk to 0. If you just want better options, you can increase the chance it will succeed.

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by zarantha

[LesboIsBesto]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

I don't use maria eden. You should be able to get one of the alternate dialogs if you have paper, quill and ink in your inventory.

Otherwise, use a lower difficulty overall for DD. It's a random chance not in the MCM. Since it's a random chance, you are probably just unlucky recently. Skyrim's RNG is not very good.

 

If you have DCL as well, then there are gag options in the consequence tab that can replace DD's gag talk.

If you want to use DD's only, you can set the chance to override DD's gag talk to 0. If you just want better options, you can increase the chance it will succeed.

 

 

oh I dont have DCL in SE yet, am just speakin from LE experience that I know it can pop up too over DD sometimes. Wasnt sure if the difficulty lvl affects dialogue too, I had it set to default rip. What else does it affect besides gag dialogue cuz I wanna retain some difficulty but not at the expense of makin it too simple or too frustratin. Also guess that paper stuff hidden in the page or a readme cuz I sure didnt see it

[zarantha]

59 minutes ago, LesboIsBesto said:

oh I dont have DCL in SE yet, am just speakin from LE experience that I know it can pop up too over DD sometimes. Wasnt sure if the difficulty lvl affects dialogue too, I had it set to default rip. What else does it affect besides gag dialogue cuz I wanna retain some difficulty but not at the expense of makin it too simple or too frustratin. Also guess that paper stuff hidden in the page or a readme cuz I sure didnt see it

 

As far as I'm aware, difficulty will affect anything with a chance. So escape, struggle, talking at least.

 

I don't think it's mentioned anywhere, but I saw it mentioned in LE somewhere, and confirmed that one of those dialog options is to write things out. So it's in there. Kinda like an easter egg i guess?

 

 

[LesboIsBesto]

36 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

As far as I'm aware, difficulty will affect anything with a chance. So escape, struggle, talking at least.

 

I don't think it's mentioned anywhere, but I saw it mentioned in LE somewhere, and confirmed that one of those dialog options is to write things out. So it's in there. Kinda like an easter egg i guess?

 

 

oof, now I gotta carry that stuff all the time rip

 

welp i hope the easier difficulties leave the devices still moderately challenging while lettin me talk when I need to, or else I'll just have DCL override completely when I get it

[EblisAzadi]

Do i need cbbe smp or cbbe cbpc? 

[Storms1]

Apologies if this problem has been addressed somewhere in these 200+ pages, but I have a persistent issue that doesn't have a documented fix, as far as I've been able to search.  I'm playing SE, post-AE update and downgrade, but this problem predates the update by quite a bit.  I have DD v5.0.7.

 

Put simply, the mod breaks hats.  Hats, helmets, hoods, etc, both vanilla and modded.  I try to put one on, and it won't equip.  Circlets and items marked as circlets work fine but nothing else.  I know it's DD's fault because I went through the painful process of testing all my mods to find the culprit.  The titular devices aren't broken (yay!), but the problem is pervasive enough that I usually have to keep DD disabled :(.  If anyone knows a fix for this, I would love to hear it, because I really miss having DD in my game.

[zarantha]

12 hours ago, Eblis Azadi said:

Do i need cbbe smp or cbbe cbpc? 

 

What you use for your body does not matter.

 

You need HDT SMP for the chains to work, or you need to build the no HDT options for chains in bodyslide.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, Storms1 said:

Apologies if this problem has been addressed somewhere in these 200+ pages, but I have a persistent issue that doesn't have a documented fix, as far as I've been able to search.  I'm playing SE, post-AE update and downgrade, but this problem predates the update by quite a bit.  I have DD v5.0.7.

 

Put simply, the mod breaks hats.  Hats, helmets, hoods, etc, both vanilla and modded.  I try to put one on, and it won't equip.  Circlets and items marked as circlets work fine but nothing else.  I know it's DD's fault because I went through the painful process of testing all my mods to find the culprit.  The titular devices aren't broken (yay!), but the problem is pervasive enough that I usually have to keep DD disabled :(.  If anyone knows a fix for this, I would love to hear it, because I really miss having DD in my game.

 

DD 5.0 (the extension on the archive is .7z) is old. Current release is DD 5.1, and we have DD 5.2 in beta now.

 

For AE, you need to install the DD 5.2 beta3 version. The DLL included with DD is not supported by skse 2.1.4+ on any other version.

You can download it from the troubleshooting post.

 

You have a slot conflict. If you have a DD item equipped and your hat uses a non standard slot, then it's expected that the other item will not equip, because DDs are locked and cannot be removed.

https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference

Edited January 6, 2022 by zarantha

[bubbadogslaw]

any way to use DD contraptions in normal gameplay?

also, will all mods going forward made for AE work in SE?

 

[LesboIsBesto]

is there a way to fix my body periodically clippin through DD gear with jiggle physics? Its mostly the thighs through boots & boobs through chastity bras so far but could be other similar gear or more. I have HDT SMP & CBPC with CBBE 3BA & yes all the HDT options were built in BodySlide

Edited January 7, 2022 by LesboIsBesto

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, bubbadogslaw said:

any way to use DD contraptions in normal gameplay?

also, will all mods going forward made for AE work in SE?

 

 

Get a mod that makes use of them. DCL is one such mod.

 

The goal is to provide a DLL for SE, AE, and VR, as installer options.

The AE DLL is compatible with 1.6.342 / 2.1.4, haven't tested 1.6.353 / 2.1.5. Have not yet tried updating it since it was just released/updated today. Give me a bit, I'm still learning how to compile. The last one was done for me.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

is there a way to fix my body periodically clippin through DD gear with jiggle physics? Its mostly the thighs through boots & boobs through chastity bras so far but could be other similar gear or more. I have HDT SMP & CBPC with CBBE 3BA & yes all the HDT options were built in BodySlide

 

make sure you are using the 3ba bodyslides, since you have a 3ba body. sounds like you are using the cbbe se bodyslides in the DD 5.1 installer.

updated bodyslides are on the troubleshooting post in the beta section. they're for DD 5.2 beta, but will work for DD 5.1 too

 

[negative0004]

Now that DDs is working properly for me now FINALLY, is there any mods to use with it? besides just deviously cursed loot? I've used lauras bondage shop, its fun its just short. I'm open to recommendations

[natybs]

Not really a big issue, but i just removed the tentacle parasite (it ran away and its not on me anymore) but the quest for it is in my journal. 

[barrett1980]

Please forgive my question, as I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.  Does DD SE 5.x replace DDa, DDi, DDx?  If so, I'm assuming mods looking for the DDa/x/i aren't compatible with DD SE 5?  I ask because I'd like to use Naked Defeat, which recommends using DD Equip.  But DD Equip wants the DDa/x/i mods.  "Being a bear of very little brain", I'm so very confused.

[Storms1]

18 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

DD 5.0 (the extension on the archive is .7z) is old. Current release is DD 5.1, and we have DD 5.2 in beta now.

 

For AE, you need to install the DD 5.2 beta3 version. The DLL included with DD is not supported by skse 2.1.4+ on any other version.

You can download it from the troubleshooting post.

 

You have a slot conflict. If you have a DD item equipped and your hat uses a non standard slot, then it's expected that the other item will not equip, because DDs are locked and cannot be removed.

https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference

Thanks, I'll update, but that doesn't answer the main problem.  I suppose I should further clarify.  I'm not wearing a device when this happens.  Unless some invisible one is automatically attached to you at the start of each game, this isn't that kind of conflict.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, natybs said:

Not really a big issue, but i just removed the tentacle parasite (it ran away and its not on me anymore) but the quest for it is in my journal. 

 

Probably best to revert the save to just before that happened and hope it removes itself again, or get it removed by using the recipe to remove it. Talking to alchemists or priests should get the recipe, and it is made at a cooking pot, not the alchemy  station.

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, barrett1980 said:

Please forgive my question, as I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.  Does DD SE 5.x replace DDa, DDi, DDx?  If so, I'm assuming mods looking for the DDa/x/i aren't compatible with DD SE 5?  I ask because I'd like to use Naked Defeat, which recommends using DD Equip.  But DD Equip wants the DDa/x/i mods.  "Being a bear of very little brain", I'm so very confused.

 

DDa, DDi, DDx, DDc, DD for Him, BRRF are all included with DD starting with 5.0. If you have any of those installed separately, remove them. They could break DD 5.1 due to old scripts.