Devious Devices SE

[Guest]

On 11/27/2021 at 7:58 AM, zarantha said:

 

What else is there that you've tested has issues?

 

Not sure what the issue with the harness is. I'll take a look at comparing the nifs between the old/new and ebonite/leather versions.

The catsuits will need rebuilt, I can't see why they're stretching to infinity, but it doesn't surprise me that they are causing CTDs like that. As far as I can see, they're properly weighted. Since LE is redoing the catsuits again just before beta3, I'd most likely have to redo them anyway.

 

The new bodyslides are what is going into the beta, so it's not surprising that they have the same issues.

Please do let me know what issues you find with the bodyslides. I was not able to test most of them in game, so this helps.

I find it odd that they're occurring, since I've done them the same way I've done them before with some additional tweaks to help save space. But I tested those methods in game with the straitjackets, so i'm not sure why the simpler outfits are messing up.

 

Once I have this latest batch of issues fixed, I'll update the bodyslide files as .2 and they'll go into beta3 when that comes out.

Every item that points to that mesh seems to have that issue (which is expected I would say), and so far I have not seen anything else with a similar problem. If it can help I found this old discussion while trying to troubleshoot the problem, but I have not been able to replicate the solution posted there for the lack of knowledge, skills or both: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/881547-armor-elements-disappearing-depending-on-distance-and-angle/.

Thank you for your help, I have not been able to play but I will be happy to report any issue I find in the coming days!

[natybs]

hi so i accidentally downloaded the newest patch for skyrim and it broke skse. i tried to revert but skse still says its too new of a version and wont run. any news about when this might be updated or how to successfully revert a version?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, RandomPufferFish said:

Every item that points to that mesh seems to have that issue (which is expected I would say), and so far I have not seen anything else with a similar problem. If it can help I found this old discussion while trying to troubleshoot the problem, but I have not been able to replicate the solution posted there for the lack of knowledge, skills or both: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/881547-armor-elements-disappearing-depending-on-distance-and-angle/.

Thank you for your help, I have not been able to play but I will be happy to report any issue I find in the coming days!

 

I found what it was, and i've fixed it. I had put in a head nif to copy the head weights from more accurately, and the skin offset for the head seems different. I must have accidentally left copy the transforms checked from copying the head weights, because i had the transforms prompt again when recopying the body weights. after doing that, the harness works just fine.

what exactly is meant by 'transform' i have no clue. I've only seen it when copying the weights from the vanilla heads.

 

it will be in the next bodyslide update, which will be up soon. i'm just trying to do a spot check one more time before putting it up.

[zarantha]

49 minutes ago, natybs said:

hi so i accidentally downloaded the newest patch for skyrim and it broke skse. i tried to revert but skse still says its too new of a version and wont run. any news about when this might be updated or how to successfully revert a version?

 

I don't have a working DLL yet. I'm trying to learn, but it seems a bit harder to convert LE to AE than I thought.

 

To revert to SE, I used this:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618

[NiX10]

 Is this still the newest version of 3BA bodyslides or is there a newer version?

 

Edit: I found it, but i wish these would be on the main page of the mod, it would be easier to find them.

Edited November 29, 2021 by NiX10

[zarantha]

45 minutes ago, NiX10 said:

 

Edit: I found it, but i wish these would be on the main page of the mod, it would be easier to find them.

 

I can't edit the front page, which is why they're on the troubleshooting post, which is linked in the second post of the thread.

3BA bodyslides will be included in 5.2 when it's released. The loose bodyslides are temporary while we're working through the beta. I will be updating them soon after I finish one last spot check.

Edited November 29, 2021 by zarantha

[deffake]

I've read through the chat and I've found that the NetImmerse Override error for slave boots come up because I don't have racemenu and SKEE installed.

However, I have the latest versions of both installed and I still get the same error. All my mods are SSE compatible, since I also saw that LE mods can cause this error too.

Any troubleshooting steps that I have missed?
 

[zarantha]

22 minutes ago, deffake said:

I've read through the chat and I've found that the NetImmerse Override error for slave boots come up because I don't have racemenu and SKEE installed.

However, I have the latest versions of both installed and I still get the same error. All my mods are SSE compatible, since I also saw that LE mods can cause this error too.

Any troubleshooting steps that I have missed?
 

 

Racemenu (skee) doesn't work on AE yet. So if you've updated SE, it doesn't matter that you've got the latest racemenu, the dll will not load, because the update changes you from SE to AE, even if you don't buy the upgrade.

 

Run the downgrade patcher or wait for racemenu to be updated to AE.

[Anunya]

I play with 3BA. Things like nipple piercings appear inside the breasts and do not move in sync with the breast movement. This is to be expected because there are no 3BA bodyslides for DD 5+ yet.

 

My current options for starting a new playthrough are:

 

1. Accept it as it is.

2. Switch to CBBE

3. Revert to 4.3 AIO

4. Wait until 5.2 is released.

 

Is that correct?

 

Also - no rushing intended, I'm merely trying to make the right decision for setting up my next game - do we have any idea when 5.2 is likely to be released? Are we talking days, weeks, months, years?

Edited November 29, 2021 by Anunya

[Sailas]

Spoiler

On 11/28/2021 at 1:19 PM, Elsidia said:

1) Script lag need wait more to get it.

2) You haven't build FNIS after reinstall patch.

3) You have some idle mods what's are incompatible with DD animations, like Fnis Sexy move.

 

4 )Reinstall fully DD after remove wrong patches:

a) remove DD

b) Build FNIS

c) Install fresh DD 5.1

 

If nothing help i have no idea.

 

I think it's Dynamic animation replacer. Hope someday there will be a solution instead of uninstalling "wrong" mods.

[zarantha]

57 minutes ago, Anunya said:

I play with 3BA. Things like nipple piercings appear inside the breasts and do not move in sync with the breast movement. This is to be expected because there are no 3BA bodyslides for DD 5+ yet.

 

My current options for starting a new playthrough are:

 

1. Accept it as it is.

2. Switch to CBBE

3. Revert to 4.3 AIO

4. Wait until 5.2 is released.

 

Is that correct?

 

Also - no rushing intended, I'm merely trying to make the right decision for setting up my next game - do we have any idea when 5.2 is likely to be released? Are we talking days, weeks, months, years?

 

DD 5.x 3BA bodyslides are in the beta section of the troubleshooting post.

DD 5.2 should be somewhere between a few weeks to a month or two. I don't expect it to last longer unless some bug comes up in testing.

 

I have some last minute things to work out, but I will be upload a 0.2 version of the bodyslides tonight or within the next few days at least.

Even though they say 5.2, they will work with 5.1. there will be a few outfits that aren't in 5.1, but building them won't hurt anything. If you're using catsuits a lot, then wait for the 0.2 version.

 

[zarantha]

47 minutes ago, Sailas said:

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I think it's Dynamic animation replacer. Hope someday there will be a solution instead of uninstalling "wrong" mods.

 

DAR itself works, I use it myself. You will probably need to check each specific DAR mod to see which one is the problem.

We can't make patches for random animations - there's just too many out there and none of us left know how to animate anyway. You're welcome to try patching it yourself.

[Anunya]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

DD 5.x 3BA bodyslides are in the beta section of the troubleshooting post.

DD 5.2 should be somewhere between a few weeks to a month or two. I don't expect it to last longer unless some bug comes up in testing.

 

I have some last minute things to work out, but I will be upload a 0.2 version of the bodyslides tonight or within the next few days at least.

Even though they say 5.2, they will work with 5.1. there will be a few outfits that aren't in 5.1, but building them won't hurt anything. If you're using catsuits a lot, then wait for the 0.2 version.

 

Excellent! Thank you

 

I'll grab the 0.2 bodyslides when you upload them. It'll probably take me at least a few days before I finish configuring all the MCM options for a new game anyhow

[Anunya]

So I have:

 

CBBE 3BA (3BBB)

CBBE 3BBB (Advanced) v 1.13

DDE-5-01-SE

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.2 Bodyslides 0.1

 

I batch built 

 

After I added the bodyslides the nipple piercings move with the breasts (which they didn't previously, so that's good). However, they still seem to be positioned too low breasts which looks pretty awkward. Is that because I'm doing something wrong, or is there something up with the bodyslides?

 

Looks like this:

Spoiler

 

 

 

[zarantha]

13 minutes ago, Anunya said:

So I have:

 

CBBE 3BA (3BBB)

CBBE 3BBB (Advanced) v 1.13

DDE-5-01-SE

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.2 Bodyslides 0.1

 

I batch built 

 

After I added the bodyslides the nipple piercings move with the breasts (which they didn't previously, so that's good). However, they still seem to be positioned too low breasts which looks pretty awkward. Is that because I'm doing something wrong, or is there something up with the bodyslides?

 

Looks like this:

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Probably something up with bodyslide settings. I just tried a set of nipple piercings and they're fine on my pc.

Are you using a custom preset for your body? If you are, upload your preset file and I'll look at it.

If it's not custom, what preset is that?

BTW, new bodyslides are up on the troubleshooting post.

Spoiler

working:

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by zarantha
Too sleepy, don't want loose links causing trouble later when they go away.

[gamefan7710]

9 hours ago, Anunya said:

So I have:

 

CBBE 3BA (3BBB)

CBBE 3BBB (Advanced) v 1.13

DDE-5-01-SE

Devious Devices SE & VR 5.2 Bodyslides 0.1

 

I batch built 

 

After I added the bodyslides the nipple piercings move with the breasts (which they didn't previously, so that's good). However, they still seem to be positioned too low breasts which looks pretty awkward. Is that because I'm doing something wrong, or is there something up with the bodyslides?

 

Looks like this:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

Try removing CBBE 3BBB (Advanced) v. 1.13, is  the same mod as CBBE 3BA, but a much older version; then rebuild with bodyslide.

Spoiler

 

 

[Anunya]

Thank you @gamefan7710 - I'll give that a try. Presets and so on confuse me a fair bit... didn't realize the two mods were the same thing!

 

 

[Anunya]

So I deleted CBBE 3BBB (Advanced) v 1.13 and rebuilt the DD groups. Didn't quite work. Then I rebuilt everything and started a new game and it worked. I'm still not confident that I have a grasp of exactly how and why, but it's working so I'll take it

 

Thanks for the help!

[gamefan7710]

The problem was the old mod for the body (3bbb advanced), so after removing it,  you probably only needed to rebuilt the body, not the DD groups, but rebuilding everything works also,  good ?

[ooxxoxx]

Hi, guys, some dump question.

I play skyrim VR and had a lot mod before I first installed DD 1.5 few weeks ago, and I realized it is not causing any issues, but one interesting thing is it makes all female NPCs in my game using male stance for body turning animation. They all doing alright for everything else, but when they turn their body around, their arms wide open and swing like male NPCs, which they don't do that before, and they don't do that neither once I unchecked DD in MO2 and re run FNIS, but they do that when DD is running.

Not sure if it is a conflict with other mod(s) I have or if it happens to others here.

I am mainly using EVG conditional idles and EVG animation variance for non combat animations, and using many of the smooth by skypia for combat stance animations including combat idles, magic idle, blocks, cast, spring and staff.

[zarantha]

26 minutes ago, ooxxoxx said:

Hi, guys, some dump question.

I play skyrim VR and had a lot mod before I first installed DD 1.5 few weeks ago, and I realized it is not causing any issues, but one interesting thing is it makes all female NPCs in my game using male stance for body turning animation. They all doing alright for everything else, but when they turn their body around, their arms wide open and swing like male NPCs, which they don't do that before, and they don't do that neither once I unchecked DD in MO2 and re run FNIS, but they do that when DD is running.

Not sure if it is a conflict with other mod(s) I have or if it happens to others here.

I am mainly using EVG conditional idles and EVG animation variance for non combat animations, and using many of the smooth by skypia for combat stance animations including combat idles, magic idle, blocks, cast, spring and staff.

 

That doesn't make sense because if DD's guilty of anything in that area, it's making female animations more feminine. Usually, the problem is getting bound animations without a device.

You probably have a conflict somewhere with DD. If DD is enabled and EVG and/or smooth is disabled, does the same thing happen? I don't use either, but other mods that have idles would be a prime candidate.

if not, you'll need to go through your mods one at a time starting with only DD enabled. check after adding each mod.

[NiX10]

Im having weird problem where slave harness disappears while looking at PC from certain angles, kinda like overlays under transparent clothing, i never had that happen before

 

Edit: i was using DD 5.1 with 5.2 bodyslides, i just installed DD 5.2 beta 2 and 3BA bodyslides, and it works good now

 

2'nd edit: Well it did fix my harness problem but now the catsuit is missing hands and feet, i know there is a way to fix it myself using SSEedit but i can't

remember how to do it.

Edited December 3, 2021 by NiX10

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, NiX10 said:

Im having weird problem where slave harness disappears while looking at PC from certain angles, kinda like overlays under transparent clothing, i never had that happen before

 

Edit: i was using DD 5.1 with 5.2 bodyslides, i just installed DD 5.2 beta 2 and 3BA bodyslides, and it works good now

 

2'nd edit: Well it did fix my harness problem but now the catsuit is missing hands and feet, i know there is a way to fix it myself using SSEedit but i can't

remember how to do it.

 

The hands and feet are supposed to be gone again. the 0.2 version of the bodyslides is up to date with unevensteven's last changes for 5.2 beta. the only thing you aren't getting yet are the priority changes in the esps, that should come with beta 3.

 

See the comment in the dev thread:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/69936-devious-devices-framework-developmentbeta/?do=findComment&comment=3584864

 

• Scrapped the Seamless Catsuit as it wouldn't work as intended.

Edited December 3, 2021 by zarantha

[alster523]

Kind of a weird question but is there anything that can be done about the stagger animation that happens when you kick someone thats blocking? it ends up pulling your arms out of the armbinder and then the jump back. If not it is what it is just kidna curious.

[zarantha]

7 minutes ago, alster523 said:

Kind of a weird question but is there anything that can be done about the stagger animation that happens when you kick someone thats blocking? it ends up pulling your arms out of the armbinder and then the jump back. If not it is what it is just kidna curious.

 

No, nothing can really be done about that. You'll see it happen with some other animations overriding the armbinder one from time to time too.