Devious Devices SE

natybs · November 10, 2021

hi so ummm i was locking in queen sarahs chastity gear for the quest and looking for the journal fragments. i got put in handcuffs and when i escaped, sarahs arm cuffs no longer are equitable on me? the dont apear on me either, should i reload a much earlier save or just finish the sarahs quest to see what happened?

zarantha · November 10, 2021

19 hours ago, Elsidia said:

In modern DD you need check not equipped items but bugged rendered items in inventory what's not equipped. In DD 5.1 if you have unequipped rendered device (DCL 9.0 spawns a lot those devices) rendered device equipping process is aborted. There no check of rendered device equipped but only check if match device is in inventory. If yes, even, if this not equipped, equip process aborted. Info for @Straze too.

UPD: Technical info there: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/69936-devious-devices-framework-developmentbeta/?do=findComment&comment=3562372

honestly, i rarely do any process when a device gets bugged. i don't hit the issue often, and i'll revert to an older save if it happens. So many people here just don't save often enough and screw themselves over...

Elsidia · November 10, 2021

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

i don't hit the issue often, and i'll revert to an older save if it happens.

The fact is that those devices are invisible and you not see present of this bug. You can play long long time while you found a problem. Game works fine only some of devices deny equip on you and you can even not notice it. Cursed loot triggers but after that some items can equip on you or some not. After day successfully played game i found in inventory about 20 rendered bugged devices, but game still work fine. Only some devices can't be equipped on you. As example if you got black leather collar rendered device into inventory you can equip red leather collar, any quest collar. Only Black leather collar can't be equipped. After i add this suggested fix any item equips and also in inventory no more spawn bugged rendered devices. technically it can spawn, but as this id of device try to equip on me, it's delete all this id and equip new. Devices not bugged as type of devices but by id. Says if you got all possible collar id into inventory, you can't equip any collar. But before that you got all - other collars still equip. My suggestion is that DCL surrender procedure spawns those devices by bugged progressive bondage function.

Conclusion. You can play long time without notice this bug and when you found it only good save was save after says 20 level progress in game resolved in long RT game play. You still want revert it?)

UPD: I know this is impossible, but i will like to check your good save for that devices and see if i can found some)

Edited November 10, 2021 by Elsidia

brussh · November 10, 2021

"Hey maybe you can help me"

Hi I'm a bit of a noobie to modding, especially SL mods. I just a tad confused as all the required mods link to Oldrim mods.

I have concentration issues and can find navigating this site a bit overwhelming. Its like sometimes I look at the words on a page and it mutates into spaghetti. I do try to follow instruction verbatim. I probably enjoy installing and configuring mods more than I play the game lol

I guess its obvious to use the SE assets BUT the fact that after a cursory glance through the comments and not seeing a similar comment to this, makes me 'That guy!'

I love what you guys do and appreciate so much your commitment to providing incredible additions to to Skyrim. Especially where I am in my life now.

I'd love a bit of clarity please.

zarantha · November 10, 2021

3 hours ago, Elsidia said:

The fact is that those devices are invisible and you not see present of this bug. You can play long long time while you found a problem. Game works fine only some of devices deny equip on you and you can even not notice it. Cursed loot triggers but after that some items can equip on you or some not. After day successfully played game i found in inventory about 20 rendered bugged devices, but game still work fine. Only some devices can't be equipped on you. As example if you got black leather collar rendered device into inventory you can equip red leather collar, any quest collar. Only Black leather collar can't be equipped. After i add this suggested fix any item equips and also in inventory no more spawn bugged rendered devices. technically it can spawn, but as this id of device try to equip on me, it's delete all this id and equip new. Devices not bugged as type of devices but by id. Says if you got all possible collar id into inventory, you can't equip any collar. But before that you got all - other collars still equip. My suggestion is that DCL surrender procedure spawns those devices by bugged progressive bondage function.

Conclusion. You can play long time without notice this bug and when you found it only good save was save after says 20 level progress in game resolved in long RT game play. You still want revert it?)

UPD: I know this is impossible, but i will like to check your good save for that devices and see if i can found some)

Hmm, part of the issue with me testing it is i don't have long running saves usually. but I do tend keep somewhere around 50 to 100 or more saves lying around when I do, and yes I have gone back quite far, or simply restarted. I do admit to restartitis (restarting often).

Let's see how long this one goes, I just started again. not even out of helgen keep and she's been trapped already, but nothing's been removed yet. I'll check when I can load the game up again.

spaghettibolognese · November 10, 2021

Hey! I'm really sorry if this has been said before, but Mega asks that I pay up if I want to download this mod, are there any alternative download options?

zarantha · November 10, 2021

59 minutes ago, brussh said:

"Hey maybe you can help me"

Hi I'm a bit of a noobie to modding, especially SL mods. I just a tad confused as all the required mods link to Oldrim mods.

I have concentration issues and can find navigating this site a bit overwhelming. Its like sometimes I look at the words on a page and it mutates into spaghetti. I do try to follow instruction verbatim. I probably enjoy installing and configuring mods more than I play the game lol

I guess its obvious to use the SE assets BUT the fact that after a cursory glance through the comments and not seeing a similar comment to this, makes me 'That guy!'

I love what you guys do and appreciate so much your commitment to providing incredible additions to to Skyrim. Especially where I am in my life now.

I'd love a bit of clarity please.

I've recently modified the installer to have the SE requirements to partially help with that in the beta that's running now. The mod page is a copy/paste of the LE page and none of the requirements were updated. There are conversions for many mods out there. If you have an issue finding them, the conversion thread is a good place to start : https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-nov-1-6486/

@Kimy

Could you please update the SE download page with these requirements?

SE Requirements:
• SexLab SE 1.63: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/91861-sexlab-framework-se-163-beta-9-august-5th-2021/

• SexLab Aroused SE: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5482-sexlab-aroused-redux-sse-version-29/
• FNIS SE: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038
• Racemenu SE: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080
• BodySlide for CBBE/UNP compatible body: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/201
   ONE of the following bodies:
   • CBBE SE - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198
   • UNP Renewal - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1699
• XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988
• MFG Fix: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669

hungvipbcsok · November 10, 2021

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Cursed loot triggers but after that some items can equip on you or some not. After day successfully played game i found in inventory about 20 rendered bugged devices, but game still work fine. Only some devices can't be equipped on you.

There is a solution to fix those broken script device if it is too late to reverse a save.

- First, equip those devices on you (of course it is invisible and not working right now)

- Open any container, follower backpack, shop vendor.

- Move/sell the device on you.

Now those devices will appear equip on you again and you will have to work your way out normal this time.

Edit: This problem only occur with DCL9 and DD5. Before DD4 I have never encounter it. I think it is not the problem with device hiders. It is the way items is force equip on you that break it.

Edited November 10, 2021 by hungvipbcsok

Elsidia · November 10, 2021

23 minutes ago, hungvipbcsok said:

There is a solution to fix those broken script device if it is too late to reverse a save.

There is more easy solution to fix it (for me easy) - i found those devices only by console and i just remove those by console player.removeitem id, where id is broken devices rendered item id. Your restraint still is into inventory and now can be equipped. Also as i say i made a script changes what do it automatically as detect bugged device. I have no more problem with bugged items anymore.

UPD: also if fix bugged progressive bondage script and maybe no more bugged devices appears.

Edited November 10, 2021 by Elsidia

Elsidia · November 10, 2021

27 minutes ago, hungvipbcsok said:

This problem only occur with DCL9 and DD5.

In DD 4.3 was other problem when rendered device locked on player or NPC and can't be removed anymore. This problem was more problematic to fix. In DD 5.0 this problem was fixed but now still appears rendered devices what not equiped and produce new DD 5.0 equip bug. As for DCL 9.0 this mod produces most of bugged rendered devices as i think because of bugged progressive bondage function, There is removed delay part and because of that it try to equip one items a few times. Somehow there is in air a few equip procedures and all of those resolves some of rendered devices left unequipped in inventory. I still not understand why those devices are spawned, but it does. After fix this function: by added delay and variables what blocks equip one item twice or more in one cycle of function, no more seems problems.

brussh · November 10, 2021

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

I've recently modified the installer to have the SE requirements to partially help with that in the beta that's running now. The mod page is a copy/paste of the LE page and none of the requirements were updated. There are conversions for many mods out there. If you have an issue finding them, the conversion thread is a good place to start : https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-nov-1-6486/

@Kimy

Could you please update the SE download page with these requirements?

SE Requirements:
• SexLab SE 1.63: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/91861-sexlab-framework-se-163-beta-9-august-5th-2021/

• SexLab Aroused SE: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5482-sexlab-aroused-redux-sse-version-29/
• FNIS SE: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038
• Racemenu SE: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080
• BodySlide for CBBE/UNP compatible body: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/201
   ONE of the following bodies:
   • CBBE SE - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198
   • UNP Renewal - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1699
• XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988
• MFG Fix: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669

Hey Zarantha thanks for isolating that bit, I completely missed that. I thought I was just being dumb, turns out I was

spaghettibolognese · November 10, 2021

Asking again just in case, Mega is a massive pain in the behind here and it's failed the download twice now, just about left it for 10 hours because of the timers and I'm going for the third time hoping it works now. Anyone has an alternative download?

greenmango12 · November 11, 2021

So to make most recent version for SE , which link is good?

And I hope to make 3BA (ver2) bs data, or if there is already mod, hope to know the link..

I just installed old version but had not used intentionarlly (maybe just used or some mesh or textures seems used for zaz items), but recently I up-date most of mods, and making new data and start new game... so hope to start DD again ^^; (I often give up for se though)

What I hope is, I know there is many mod which use DD as framework but I just hope to pick some items, from add item menu, and wear to NPC,,, then which version (and hope to know download link for SE) is recommend?

I like to test recent beta. ,, (because it may need to be up-dated sooner or later, so usually I test them first to understand how it work), so if there is some reliable beta for SE hope to know link and test for SE.. thanks.

greenmango12 · November 11, 2021

11 minutes ago, greenmango12 said:

So to make most recent version for SE , which link is good?

And I hope to make 3BA (ver2) bs data, or if there is already mod, hope to know the link..

I just installed old version but had not used intentionarlly (maybe just used or some mesh or textures seems used for zaz items), but recently I up-date most of mods, and making new data and start new game... so hope to start DD again ^^; (I often give up for se though)

What I hope is, I know there is many mod which use DD as framework but I just hope to pick some items, from add item menu, and wear to NPC,,, then which version (and hope to know download link for SE) is recommend?

I like to test recent beta. ,, (because it may need to be up-dated sooner or later, so usually I test them first to understand how it work), so if there is some reliable beta for SE hope to know link and test for SE.. thanks.

DD 5.2 beta 1 SE/VR: https://mega.nz/file/Mah02KgA#H40jpIsYlB47Oi0ED-FqzGQzxs3YxcoxZCc6CfWtGcA

OK maybe this is recent beta for SE... (I suppose)... and it seems include 3BA data already? I may try these,, then when report about this SE beta, which place is good to reprot?

I really hope if we can clearly devide report for SE/LE and beta/recent...as different topic,. when beta up-date many things...

Edited November 11, 2021 by greenmango12

zarantha · November 11, 2021

5 hours ago, spaghettibolognese said:

Asking again just in case, Mega is a massive pain in the behind here and it's failed the download twice now, just about left it for 10 hours because of the timers and I'm going for the third time hoping it works now. Anyone has an alternative download?

Repeating myself again. On the troubleshooting post is an alternative download for DD 5.1. There is no alternative download for the beta (DD 5.2), and there won't be until it's out of beta.

zarantha · November 11, 2021

2 hours ago, greenmango12 said:

DD 5.2 beta 1 SE/VR: https://mega.nz/file/Mah02KgA#H40jpIsYlB47Oi0ED-FqzGQzxs3YxcoxZCc6CfWtGcA

OK maybe this is recent beta for SE... (I suppose)... and it seems include 3BA data already? I may try these,, then when report about this SE beta, which place is good to reprot?

I really hope if we can clearly devide report for SE/LE and beta/recent...as different topic,. when beta up-date many things...

Yes, that's the current beta. There's newer bodyslides than what's included as well. both links are on the troubleshooting post. When there's additional beta updates, I'll update there again. The bodyslides do include 3BA now.

Troubleshooting post:

For reporting issues -

If it's a bodyslide or conversion issue, you would report it to me on the SE thread here since I handle the conversions.

If it's a game play issue, you should report it on the beta thread.

If you don't know what it is, report it on the beta thread. I watch both places.

greenmango12 · November 11, 2021

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

Yes, that's the current beta. There's newer bodyslides than what's included as well. both links are on the troubleshooting post. When there's additional beta updates, I'll update there again. The bodyslides do include 3BA now.

Troubleshooting post:

For reporting issues -

If it's a bodyslide or conversion issue, you would report it to me on the SE thread here since I handle the conversions.

If it's a game play issue, you should report it on the beta thread.

If you don't know what it is, report it on the beta thread. I watch both places.

OK thanks again ^^ I had not used (sometimes install but usually not use often ) DD with LE, so I may miss something about usage, anyway hope it work well.

Elsidia · November 11, 2021

Sorry for offtopics!

Welcome to new era of Skyrim SE!))

Anyone download new version? It's really breaks SKSE64 and DD 5.1 with dll?

I prefer not to touch 5 gb update in steam)

*Pfiffy* · November 11, 2021

19 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Sorry for offtopics!

Welcome to new era of Skyrim SE!))

Anyone download new version? It's really breaks SKSE64 and DD 5.1 with dll?

I prefer not to touch 5 gb update in steam)

There is already a 2nd version out... SKSE was ready for 1.6.317 and I got 1.6.318...

The nexus downgrade patch dosnt work for me and I don't know how to get my old version back...

Elsidia · November 11, 2021

7 minutes ago, Pfiffy said:

The nexus downgrade patch dosnt work for me and I don't know how to get my old version back...

Seems it's impossible to got back( Too bad. I will wait while DD, DCL, CBBE, bodyslide and sexlab will be ready for new SKyrim SE and then only update.

Tron91 · November 11, 2021

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Seems it's impossible to got back( Too bad. I will wait while DD, DCL, CBBE, bodyslide and sexlab will be ready for new SKyrim SE and then only update.

It was warned before hand. At least I don't have to call 911 for this 1111 situation. And who knows how many new "BUGS" did Bugthesda unleashed in this AE version.

Edited November 11, 2021 by Tron91

Vaccinated Alligator · November 11, 2021

Just now, Tron91 said:

And who knows how many new "BUGS" did Bugthesda unleashed in this AE version.

Because... Bethesda, yes?

This has been since the very first day of the game, where we discovered that Ysgramor used to eat soups with a fork.

JuviaLocksera · November 12, 2021

Anyone else having issues where you cannot see the DD?

natybs · November 12, 2021

does anyone know if queen Sarah arm bands got removed by another restraint can i still finish the quest?

Averoze · November 12, 2021

Will there be a future Ostim version ?. i want to use it with ostim but apparently it needs sexlab and aroused esm.

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