zato770 Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) I cannot get DD with animations working (ie Iron Yoke). Wiped FNIS and reinstalled DD, FNIS, then ran FNIS. Also wiped and reran bodyslide and removed DD 3BA 4.3 conversion. Plugin load order and Papyrus log: https://justpaste.it/87n1x Any help greatly appreciated. Edited August 22, 2021 by zato770
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, zato770 said: I cannot get DD with animations working (ie Iron Yoke). Wiped FNIS and reinstalled DD, FNIS, then ran FNIS. Also wiped and reran bodyslide and removed DD 3BA 4.3 conversion. Plugin load order and Papyrus log: https://justpaste.it/87n1x Any help greatly appreciated. Check the troubleshooting post yet to make sure you don't have any of the mods that are known to cause issues? https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930 What do you mean by 'not working'? That's a little too generic. As a start, take out anything that changes the idles or walk/run animations, to be sure they aren't conflicting.
zato770 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 8 hours ago, zarantha said: Check the troubleshooting post yet to make sure you don't have any of the mods that are known to cause issues? https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930 What do you mean by 'not working'? That's a little too generic. As a start, take out anything that changes the idles or walk/run animations, to be sure they aren't conflicting. Generally being bound doesn't work. (yoke armbinder etc.) I was previously running nemesis and DAR idles, but I removed them and all their files and outputs.
Terrorzwerg Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Terrorzwerg said: Hi there. I think this was asked many Times but Google search and searching on Loverslab didnt got me any solutions, so im gonna ask here. The Animations for Armbinders and Yokes are not working. When i equip any of them my Hands go invinceble and i stay in the vanila Animations. I unchecked the "override if needed" box in zaz mcm and unistalled every Mod that changes idles or movement Animations but that didnt change anything. Fnis didnt give me any errors on the DD mods. I testet the Animation in zaz and it works and when im doing this will wearing an Armbinder and unequip it, it changes the Animation back to normal so it recognizes that im wearing one. And yes i did build them in Bodyslide. Hers my Load Order: Reveal hidden contents Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Kai's Lipstick.esl SGEyebrows.esp Campfire.esm JSwordsD.esm RaceCompatibility.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm Heels Sound.esm CreatureFramework.esm SkyUI_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp TKDodge.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp Devious Devices - BRRF.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp AchieveThat.esp DSerULG.esp MaximumCarnage.esp DM BDOR Dobart by Team TAL.esp GR Inari EarsTails SMP.esp [Rektas] Purple Esmeralda [SE].esp SOSRaceMenu.esp FNIS.esp [Odd] Sakura.esp SlaveTats.esp Potions.esp LeftHandRings.esp DraugrDontShout - All 3 Shouts Removed.esp DraugrDontShout - Only Unrelenting Force Removed.esp DraugrDontShout - Unrelenting Force & Disarm Removed.esp DraugrDontShout - Unrelenting Force & Frost Breath Removed.esp DraugrDontShout - Disarm & Frost Breath Removed.esp DraugrDontShout - Only Disarm Removed.esp DraugrDontShout - Only Frost Breath Removed.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp VioLens SE.esp ArchmageRing25.esp ArchmageRing50.esp ArchmageRing75.esp Lover100.esp MilkModNEW.esp MilkModNEW CF.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp SLALAnimObj.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp KomAnimObjectsSBT.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp SLUTS.esp SLUTSPrisonOverhaulPatch.esp MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Training Dummies XP.esp MarriageModSE.esp marrymeserana.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Lore Weapon Expansion.esp TERAArmorsSSE.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp SLUTS DCL patch.esp SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp Victoria Velina Revamped.esp Bondage Furniture World.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SwiftPotion.esp Masterful Master Spells.esp DragonCombatDialogue.esp HydraShot.esp Luminosite Eternelle.esp Enstatite.esp Botox SE.esp RSChildren.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp MikanEyes All in one SE.esp Eyes of Aber.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp [COCO]wedding_2B.esp [COCO]Raikou.esp [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp Pickpocket100Chance.esp Unlimited Shouting.esp RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp Brows.esp KS Hairdo's.esp FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp DHuntress.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp KKFur.esp KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp KKSDrBWeightFix.esp [Melodic] Olga Discordia.esp [Melodic] Reverse Bunnysuit.esp TeraArmorsSSE Leveled Lists Rare.esp TeraArmorsSSE RARE USSEP Patch.esp Moniko.esp Run For Your Lives.esp SexLab Beastess.esp ChaosDragons.esp EmbersHD.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Moolgogi Follower Ahri.esp Arcanum.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Emily.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp Souyu_Matasan.esp draugrweap_standa_de.esp Zikoru Swords.esp HornyCreatures.esp SLDragons.esp DeviousCarriages.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ArchmageRing00.esp Miqo'te Follower.esp AchieveThat_SE_en.esp Book of UUNP - Textures.esp CN_Eyes.esp DawnguardArsenal.esp SBF All In One + DLC.esp Follower Neisa.esp Follower Onean.esp isilNarsil.esp Miri_Follower.esp FollowerCiceria.esp Follower Neisa Wardrobe.esp Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp KatanaCrafting.esp [Predator] Fuck Doll.esp [COCO] RONIN.esp [COCO]Goddess War.esp JiangShi.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Beastess Vampire.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp RosaFollower.esp CiceroFemaleSE.esp Daedric Bitchs.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Daedric Reaper Armor.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLabDefeat.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp HentaiCreatures.esp NieR_2B_Armor&WeaponsSSE.esp UltimateCombat.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Hope someone can help me out here. Edit: I installed the patches for DCL and ZAZ but it didnt help me here. I also noticed that when i put on a Straightjacket my Arms go in the right Position but my Hands are see trought and i can still punch like normal. Edit 2: Noticed that Handcuffs and ropes also have no Idle Animations but when i try to struggle out of them the Arms go to the right position and the animation plays without problems. After the struggle Animation failed my Caracter gos back to normal standing Idle. Edited August 23, 2021 by Terrorzwerg
EFHT Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Need help. I use CBBE 3bbb (3ba) body I have installed: "DD5.1" "DCL" "DD 4.3 AIO CBBE 3BA Bodyslide Files 1.0.1" "DCL 3BBB Bodyslide" "DCL 3BA Zipsuit updated" I have used bodyslide to handle gear. Why are my breasts much smaller than my clothes when I wear a transparent latex skirt? Why did my body and arms disappear when I put on latex clothes and gloves? I can provide screenshots and modlist if necessary .
chaosarah Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, EFHT said: Need help. I use CBBE 3bbb (3ba) body I have installed: "DD5.1" "DCL" "DD 4.3 AIO CBBE 3BA Bodyslide Files 1.0.1" "DCL 3BBB Bodyslide" "DCL 3BA Zipsuit updated" I have used bodyslide to handle gear. Why are my breasts much smaller than my clothes when I wear a transparent latex skirt? Why did my body and arms disappear when I put on latex clothes and gloves? I can provide screenshots and modlist if necessary . Generally speaking, an armor-cloth-outfit.nif is often a combination of a "reference" body(lets say UNP) and the outfit on top of that. Now, with boldyslide, you did the size adjustments for your outfit, but the outfit is still paired with a body at the lets say torso-slot. You normally als end up with edges at to the hands and the neck. What you still have to do is to enter "outfit studio" in Bodyslide and change the reference body used with your gear to 3bbb. Google for tutorials. Or you look if someone already has done that in a working way for your 3bbb body. Edited August 23, 2021 by chaosarah
chaosarah Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 I use DD 5.1 SE in combination with PAHE and want to put some devices on my naughty slaves. But it just does not work. The slave does not equip whatever dd i give them to wear. Is there anything obvious i am missing? In the LE version i had some extra mod to equip DD. Loadorder is DD Assets.esm DD Integration.esm DD Expansion.esm DD Contraptions.esm DD for him.esp pretty far up at the beginning of the LO
kylexf Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Hi there, Having an issue where HDT chains are not working correctly, they just float around near my feet. Did some digging and found some older threads indicating it's an issue with HDT-PE not working with SE. Is there a fix for this by chance? Thank you!
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, zato770 said: Generally being bound doesn't work. (yoke armbinder etc.) I was previously running nemesis and DAR idles, but I removed them and all their files and outputs. If you had nemesis before, you may need to reinstall when you switch back to FNIS. DD doesn't always play nicely with Nemesis.
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, kylexf said: Hi there, Having an issue where HDT chains are not working correctly, they just float around near my feet. Did some digging and found some older threads indicating it's an issue with HDT-PE not working with SE. Is there a fix for this by chance? Thank you! If physics is getting applied, then they're working. Save, exit the game, and then loading the save again on a new launch will make the chains connect. You can play a little with the settings in the xml to try to fine tune it, but nothing I've tried yet will make the chains 'fall' and 'drag' on the ground. I do have a slightly more tuned xml that will be in the next version. HDT SMP is required, CBPC will not work.
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Terrorzwerg said: Edit: I installed the patches for DCL and ZAZ but it didnt help me here. I also noticed that when i put on a Straightjacket my Arms go in the right Position but my Hands are see trought and i can still punch like normal. Edit 2: Noticed that Handcuffs and ropes also have no Idle Animations but when i try to struggle out of them the Arms go to the right position and the animation plays without problems. After the struggle Animation failed my Caracter gos back to normal standing Idle. Are you using nemesis? if so, you need to use fnis. check the troubleshooting post for other possible issues.
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, EFHT said: Need help. I use CBBE 3bbb (3ba) body I have installed: "DD5.1" "DCL" "DD 4.3 AIO CBBE 3BA Bodyslide Files 1.0.1" "DCL 3BBB Bodyslide" "DCL 3BA Zipsuit updated" I have used bodyslide to handle gear. Why are my breasts much smaller than my clothes when I wear a transparent latex skirt? Why did my body and arms disappear when I put on latex clothes and gloves? I can provide screenshots and modlist if necessary . Check the transparent hobble skirt in bodyslide. Make sure your preset shows up when looking at those outfits in bodyslide, otherwise the morphs aren't getting built right. Build the suits individually and make sure the output goes to the right place. "DCL 3BA Zipsuit updated" is the fix for the body not morphing with DCL's catsuit, make sure it is overwriting DCL. If making sure the transparent hobble skirt is built right doesn't work, please give the in game name of the outfit that's not working.
EFHT Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, chaosarah said: Generally speaking, an armor-cloth-outfit.nif is often a combination of a "reference" body(lets say UNP) and the outfit on top of that. Now, with boldyslide, you did the size adjustments for your outfit, but the outfit is still paired with a body at the lets say torso-slot. You normally als end up with edges at to the hands and the neck. What you still have to do is to enter "outfit studio" in Bodyslide and change the reference body used with your gear to 3bbb. Google for tutorials. Or you look if someone already has done that in a working way for your 3bbb body. I understand that what you said is not a problem, but what I encountered is not. I've been playing this game for many years. But this is the first time I've encountered this situation. I don't know the physical difference between le and se. It really bothers me.
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, chaosarah said: I use DD 5.1 SE in combination with PAHE and want to put some devices on my naughty slaves. But it just does not work. The slave does not equip whatever dd i give them to wear. Is there anything obvious i am missing? In the LE version i had some extra mod to equip DD. Loadorder is DD Assets.esm DD Integration.esm DD Expansion.esm DD Contraptions.esm DD for him.esp pretty far up at the beginning of the LO How are you giving it to them? Through follower dialog to add directly to their inventory or the tie me up/i like bondage (don't remember the exact phrase) dialog? Have you checked with PAHE as well? Not sure if they're normal NPCs or not.
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, EFHT said: I understand that what you said is not a problem, but what I encountered is not. I've been playing this game for many years. But this is the first time I've encountered this situation. I don't know the physical difference between le and se. It really bothers me. That looks like a mesh error where it kinda explodes. I thought I caught all of those, it was an issue with outfit studio. What is the in game outfit name so I know which bodyslide to fix? Edited August 23, 2021 by zarantha
EFHT Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, zarantha said: That looks like a mesh error where it kinda explodes. I thought I caught all of those, it was an issue with outfit studio. What is the in game outfit name so I know which bodyslide to fix? Sorry I can't give you the accuracy The English name of, because I use the translated module. The figure shows the "transparent latex binding skirt" of CBBE body. Because I can't find out what went wrong, I removed the 3bbb modules and installed them one by one. This is the wearing effect after I only installed the CBBE body and the DD 5.1 module and used the BS to process the equipment. But after the installation of 3ba, this strange spike disappeared. The subsequent problem is that breasts are smaller than clothes.
recentcabbage Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Is there a se mod that allows players to adjust the vertical position of all the gags in showracemenu? Because lots of RM presets tend to raise the mouth to make the face look beautiful and that causes problems for the gags
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, EFHT said: Sorry I can't give you the accuracy The English name of, because I use the translated module. The figure shows the "transparent latex binding skirt" of CBBE body. Because I can't find out what went wrong, I removed the 3bbb modules and installed them one by one. This is the wearing effect after I only installed the CBBE body and the DD 5.1 module and used the BS to process the equipment. But after the installation of 3ba, this strange spike disappeared. The subsequent problem is that breasts are smaller than clothes. What version of 3BA are you using? What preset are you using? Do you see your preset listed when you build just the transparent hobble skirt in bodyslide? (not a batch build, just the big build button in the bottom middle) Are you running bodyslide from your mod manager? When building just the outfit, the path should be similar to this, it goes to where skyrim is installed. Is it this 3BA? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30174 It's looking alright to me, so it should be an issue with your bodyslide setup. Spoiler
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, recentcabbage said: Is there a se mod that allows players to adjust the vertical position of all the gags in showracemenu? Because lots of RM presets tend to raise the mouth to make the face look beautiful and that causes problems for the gags Either adjust the mouth position in racemenu, or edit the gags in outfit studio. The placing fits everything except sculpted heads, I've never had an issue with the gag placement. You could try this, I've no idea if it's compatible with DD 5.1
EFHT Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, zarantha said: What version of 3BA are you using? What preset are you using? Do you see your preset listed when you build just the transparent hobble skirt in bodyslide? (not a batch build, just the big build button in the bottom middle) Are you running bodyslide from your mod manager? When building just the outfit, the path should be similar to this, it goes to where skyrim is installed. Is it this 3BA? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30174 It's looking alright to me, so it should be an issue with your bodyslide setup. Reveal hidden contents ver:2.06 Preset: СВВЕ Орраi yes i can see. yes i running bodyslide from mod manager. Spoiler (MO running in administrator mode) NSFW. Spoiler But what I got was a wrong result.I'm downloading 3ba again. I hope this will solve the problem.
zato770 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, zarantha said: If you had nemesis before, you may need to reinstall when you switch back to FNIS. DD doesn't always play nicely with Nemesis. What exactly do I need to reinstall? I have cleared override, fnis, nemesis, bodyslide and deactivated all nemesis and idle related mods. Also created a new save. Armbinders are working, chains and iron yoke don’t (haven’t tested all items).
kylexf Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, zarantha said: If physics is getting applied, then they're working. Save, exit the game, and then loading the save again on a new launch will make the chains connect. You can play a little with the settings in the xml to try to fine tune it, but nothing I've tried yet will make the chains 'fall' and 'drag' on the ground. I do have a slightly more tuned xml that will be in the next version. HDT SMP is required, CBPC will not work. Thank you! Save/reload improved things significantly, looking forward to the fabled next version! ?
aurreth Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Don't know why I bother asking for help. I already have DD set on "Vanilla". I was not dealing with a high security device. I don't want to cheat myself a key. I don't want to edit every single device in xEdit. I want to enjoy the mod, but without spending 30 minutes of real time trying to escape ONE device, then having to repeat for the next. I asked for assistance because I was in a place where the goal was to escape the devices so going to someone else like a blacksmith was not an option; and I finished several chapters of a book during the time it took me to escape. I want to adjust the mod so that it fits my playstyle and is fun, not tedious. DD is a requirement for a huge number of mods. It should be well documented, but it's not. There is nothing that says "this quest does this, this script controls that." If there was I wouldn't be asking what quest/script governs escape attempts? If you don't know the answer to that question you are not being helpful by telling me "tweak the settings in MCM". Seriously, if I'm good enough to want to alter quests and scripts don't you think I've already tried all the other non-CK/xEdit solutions?
chaosarah Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, zarantha said: How are you giving it to them? Through follower dialog to add directly to their inventory or the tie me up/i like bondage (don't remember the exact phrase) dialog? Have you checked with PAHE as well? Not sure if they're normal NPCs or not. They are PAHE slaves and i give them to them with "you are going to wear this"
zarantha Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, chaosarah said: They are PAHE slaves and i give them to them with "you are going to wear this" That's not a DD dialog, so don't know if it's working right. So definitely make sure there's not an issue on PAHE's end. You can upload a papyrus log after trying to give it again, and I'll see if there's anything noticeable on DD's side.
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