Devious Devices SE

[Shadow292]

14 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

I have a google drive link on the troubleshooting post. Have no idea what browser you're using to get that message, but maybe this will help:

https://windowsreport.com/browser-storage-mega-full/

 

 

 

I have try doing everything on that page but none of it works :(

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, Shadow292 said:

 

I have try doing everything on that page but none of it works

 

Then use the download in the troubleshooting post I linked too. There were two different links...

 

 

If both google drive and mega are messed up for you, you've got bigger problems than just downloading one mod, and this thread is not the place to get help with fixing your browsers/internet/PC

Edited August 20, 2021 by zarantha

[Witcher36]

I’ve having a bug with both the corsets and harnesses, whenever I equip them my body becomes invisible. I have built the meshes and they were working fine until recently. Any thoughts?

 

 

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Specs78 said:

Any thoughts?

Only one - you have custom body (not CBBE, UNP or something like it) and this body is set low priority and invisible parts are marked in outfit studio as harness partition. Because this part is hidden.

Solution: - open your naked body into outfit studio and check what partition is used in hided parts. By default there must be 32 body.

 

UPD:

PS: I never see hidden body - invisible is only DD items if not build into bodyslide. Hidden body parts is something new for me.

 

Edited August 21, 2021 by Elsidia

[Smutt11]

it said sexlap arouse.esm should be active and refuse to download

 

should i download sexlap arouse?

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, vassapol said:

it said sexlap arouse.esm should be active and refuse to download

 

should i download sexlap arouse?

 

Yes, Sexlab Aroused is a requirement. Install it first and then deploy. Make sure it's active in the plugins before installing DD.

 

 

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, Specs78 said:

I’ve having a bug with both the corsets and harnesses, whenever I equip them my body becomes invisible. I have built the meshes and they were working fine until recently. Any thoughts?

 

 

 

 

What corset are you testing with the ebony harness? The in game name please.

 

I don't think it's intended to wear both corsets and harnesses at the same time. I get this when trying to wear a DD harness with the DD corset. In this, I put the corset on first, then tried to add the harness:

 

[Smutt11]

form 43 esm  can't convert 

 

[zarantha]

48 minutes ago, vassapol said:

form 43 esm  can't convert 

 

 

The ESMs don't need to be converted to form 44. They work just fine in SE as form 43.

[aurreth]

Which variable determines chance of success for trying to struggle out of things?  Even set on the easiest level it can take 20 to 30 minutes just to struggle, wait, struggle, wait, and so on.  And that's just for one restraint.

 

Yes yes, I get you are supposed to find someone, blacksmith or whatever, to help you, but you can't do that if you can't talk to them, and some gags can't be worked around.  The only way out of them is the struggle mechanic, and that is incredibly boring when you are forced to repeat it ad infinitum.

 

I'm not asking for DD to change, but if you could point me so I can adjust the probabilities on my own copy I'd appreciate it.

[zarantha]

39 minutes ago, aurreth said:

Which variable determines chance of success for trying to struggle out of things?  Even set on the easiest level it can take 20 to 30 minutes just to struggle, wait, struggle, wait, and so on.  And that's just for one restraint.

 

Yes yes, I get you are supposed to find someone, blacksmith or whatever, to help you, but you can't do that if you can't talk to them, and some gags can't be worked around.  The only way out of them is the struggle mechanic, and that is incredibly boring when you are forced to repeat it ad infinitum.

 

I'm not asking for DD to change, but if you could point me so I can adjust the probabilities on my own copy I'd appreciate it.

 

There's a random chance. Best you can do is change the difficulty level when you're having too much trouble, but even then you're still at the mercy of skyrim's RNG. I think it's supposed to increase the success a little bit each time (or maybe i'm imagining that), but even then, it's taken some people real hours to get rid of a device when having bad luck.

 

You can also try disabling lock jam and consume keys.  If you've got DCL, try turning down the difficulty there too, increase the npc helpfulness, and increase the gag success chance.

 

Have you tried getting a roll of paper, some ink and a quill? It should let you talk to them by 'writing' it out.

 

Edit: Also, some devices can't be struggled out of - notably quest items and high security items. What are you trying to get out of?

Edited August 22, 2021 by zarantha

[Witcher36]

15 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

What corset are you testing with the ebony harness? The in game name please.

 

I don't think it's intended to wear both corsets and harnesses at the same time. I get this when trying to wear a DD harness with the DD corset. In this, I put the corset on first, then tried to add the harness:

 

I think you misunderstood, I am not trying to wear both at the same time. If I equip either a corset or a harness that glitch happens. Sorry for the confusion.

[Smutt11]

9 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

The ESMs don't need to be converted to form 44. They work just fine in SE as form 43.

thank you 

 

[Witcher36]

19 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Only one - you have custom body (not CBBE, UNP or something like it) and this body is set low priority and invisible parts are marked in outfit studio as harness partition. Because this part is hidden.

Solution: - open your naked body into outfit studio and check what partition is used in hided parts. By default there must be 32 body.

 

UPD:

PS: I never see hidden body - invisible is only DD items if not build into bodyslide. Hidden body parts is something new for me.

 

 

I am using CBBE and I just check the partitions, albeit I don't really know what they do, and the body is set to slot 32. Appreciate the suggestion though.

[Rhapsody81]

Hey Folks.

 

239 pages, and my search-foo is poop.  So sorry if this has already been asked a bout 600 times ;-;

 

But... i have a question.  With DD, 'most' of the items seem to be working correctly, but quite a few are not. For instance, the Corset and leather arm gloves that go with it are invisible.  The Corset simply is invisible, the gloves make my hands vanish

 

There's a few other oddities ive seen that i cant seem to figure out.  Anyone have any experience with helping people fix these issues?

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, Rhapsody81 said:

the Corset and leather arm gloves that go with it are invisible.

Do devious devices batch build into bodybuild.

[Elsidia]

7 hours ago, aurreth said:

Which variable determines chance of success for trying to struggle out of things?

There is difficulty level what can be set in DD MCM.

Also on any restraint are default variable for chance of struggle out.

Different restraints have different value of that chance. Some devices have zero chance to struggle out.

Sometimes if you fail struggle out chance for that device is set to zero and you never will struggle out.

You can check this chance by examine device: if there is say that is impossible to struggle out then that means this chance is zero.

As example straitjackets have chance to struggle out very low, that means you need spend long time to do it.

 

There is hidden skill what increase a chance for struggle out.  With each success escape from item (not using a key) it's add 1 unit to this skill. As higher is skill as easy is escape. I call it Escape master.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, Specs78 said:

 

I think you misunderstood, I am not trying to wear both at the same time. If I equip either a corset or a harness that glitch happens. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Try building just the corset or harness in bodyslide. Don't do a batch build. Verify where the output is going. If you need more instructions, there's a tutorial on the troubleshooting post.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-50-2020-11-26/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

 

Neither glitch for me in that way, and usually it's an all or nothing issue if the bodyslides aren't built, which is why I suspect that is not a DCL or DD item.

If it isn't from another mod, try reinstalling DD and make sure you select CBBE. Also, make sure you're using the CBBE SE body and not the LE CBBE body, or one of the all in one HDT installers.

[aurreth]

14 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

There's a random chance. Best you can do is change the difficulty level when you're having too much trouble, but even then you're still at the mercy of skyrim's RNG. I think it's supposed to increase the success a little bit each time (or maybe i'm imagining that), but even then, it's taken some people real hours to get rid of a device when having bad luck.

 

You can also try disabling lock jam and consume keys.  If you've got DCL, try turning down the difficulty there too, increase the npc helpfulness, and increase the gag success chance.

 

Have you tried getting a roll of paper, some ink and a quill? It should let you talk to them by 'writing' it out.

 

Edit: Also, some devices can't be struggled out of - notably quest items and high security items. What are you trying to get out of?

 

I get all that (although I haven't tried the writing thing, thanks for that), but no matter how "easy" I set things it can still take a half hour or more to struggle out of the simplest, most basic restraint.  This is incredibly boring when you are in a scenario which prevents you from running off to Riften to get the master blacksmith to help you.  Last night I was literally reading a book while waiting for a success.  This is not fun, this is boring.  At the easiest settings escape should be automatic after a number of attempts, like randomly 3 to 5.

 

I'm not even mentioning the extra, unnecessary "see what happens" click.  Or the fact that every mod adds their own dialog for asking someone to help you and you have to remember exactly which one works for an NPC, which one for a blacksmith, etc. (why do people think it's necessary to reinvent the wheel?)

 

I like the mod.  I really do.  But there is a line between fun and boring and DD way too frequently crosses it.  So does DCL.  Especially when you add in Aroused and spend half your time fondling yourself.  It is far too easy to end up in a cycle of struggle, fondle, struggle, fondle, ad infinitum.  Playing with all the settings doesn't help, there is far too much overlap which ends up in one mod compounding the difficulty of others.  There need to be sane settings that don't require me to cripple the mods to be able to enjoy myself.

 

I'm not asking anyone to change the mod.  I'm more than willing to make patches for my own use.  I'm just asking to be pointed in the right direction.  What quests or scripts handle the escape mechanism?

[Rhapsody81]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Do devious devices batch build into bodybuild.

Did that already

 

Most other things from DD show up correctly.. its just a few random odds and ends that are not, nomater how many times i run Bodyslide.  Or do you mean going into Outfit Creater (As i have 0 knowledge of how to use that XD )?

[Terrorzwerg]

Hi there. I think this was asked many Times but Google search and searching on Loverslab didnt got me any solutions, so im gonna ask here. The Animations for Armbinders and Yokes are not working. When i equip any of them my Hands go invinceble and i stay in the vanila Animations. I unchecked the "override if needed" box in zaz mcm and unistalled every Mod that changes idles or movement Animations but that didnt change anything. Fnis didnt give me any errors on the DD mods. I testet the Animation in zaz and it works and when im doing this will wearing an Armbinder and unequip it, it changes the Animation back to normal so it recognizes that im wearing one. And yes i did build them in Bodyslide.

 

Hers my Load Order:

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Kai's Lipstick.esl
SGEyebrows.esp
Campfire.esm
JSwordsD.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
Heels Sound.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
TKDodge.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
AchieveThat.esp
DSerULG.esp
MaximumCarnage.esp
DM BDOR Dobart by Team TAL.esp
GR Inari EarsTails SMP.esp
[Rektas] Purple Esmeralda [SE].esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
FNIS.esp
[Odd] Sakura.esp
SlaveTats.esp
Potions.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
DraugrDontShout - All 3 Shouts Removed.esp
DraugrDontShout - Only Unrelenting Force Removed.esp
DraugrDontShout - Unrelenting Force & Disarm Removed.esp
DraugrDontShout - Unrelenting Force & Frost Breath Removed.esp
DraugrDontShout - Disarm & Frost Breath Removed.esp
DraugrDontShout - Only Disarm Removed.esp
DraugrDontShout - Only Frost Breath Removed.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
VioLens SE.esp
ArchmageRing25.esp
ArchmageRing50.esp
ArchmageRing75.esp
Lover100.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
MilkModNEW CF.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
BakaFactoryABC.esp
KomAnimObjectsSBT.esp
Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
SLUTS.esp
SLUTSPrisonOverhaulPatch.esp
MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Training Dummies XP.esp
MarriageModSE.esp
marrymeserana.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
TERAArmorsSSE.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
SLUTS DCL patch.esp
SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp
Victoria Velina Revamped.esp
Bondage Furniture World.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SwiftPotion.esp
Masterful Master Spells.esp
DragonCombatDialogue.esp
HydraShot.esp
Luminosite Eternelle.esp
Enstatite.esp
Botox SE.esp
RSChildren.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
MikanEyes All in one SE.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
[COCO]wedding_2B.esp
[COCO]Raikou.esp
[COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
Pickpocket100Chance.esp
Unlimited Shouting.esp
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
Brows.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
DHuntress.esp
FlameAtronachArmor.esp
FullBootForKKSA.esp
KKFur.esp
KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
[Melodic] Olga Discordia.esp
[Melodic] Reverse Bunnysuit.esp
TeraArmorsSSE Leveled Lists Rare.esp
TeraArmorsSSE RARE USSEP Patch.esp
Moniko.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SexLab Beastess.esp
ChaosDragons.esp
EmbersHD.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Moolgogi Follower Ahri.esp
Arcanum.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Emily.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
Souyu_Matasan.esp
draugrweap_standa_de.esp
Zikoru Swords.esp
HornyCreatures.esp
SLDragons.esp
DeviousCarriages.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
ArchmageRing00.esp
Miqo'te Follower.esp
AchieveThat_SE_en.esp
Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
CN_Eyes.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
SBF All In One + DLC.esp
Follower Neisa.esp
Follower Onean.esp
isilNarsil.esp
Miri_Follower.esp
FollowerCiceria.esp
Follower Neisa Wardrobe.esp
Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
KatanaCrafting.esp
[Predator] Fuck Doll.esp
[COCO] RONIN.esp
[COCO]Goddess War.esp
JiangShi.esp
Daedric Extra Armor.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Beastess Vampire.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
RosaFollower.esp
CiceroFemaleSE.esp
Daedric Bitchs.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
NieR_2B_Armor&WeaponsSSE.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

Hope someone can help me out here.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Rhapsody81 said:

Did that already

 

Most other things from DD show up correctly.. its just a few random odds and ends that are not, nomater how many times i run Bodyslide.  Or do you mean going into Outfit Creater (As i have 0 knowledge of how to use that XD )?

 

Check your device hider settings in the DD MCM. it may be hiding them?

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, aurreth said:

 

I'm not asking anyone to change the mod.  I'm more than willing to make patches for my own use.  I'm just asking to be pointed in the right direction.  What quests or scripts handle the escape mechanism?

 

Don't know which ones offhand, but you should be able to trace it by looking at the scripts applied to the device (_inventory i think) as a starting point.

 

If you're that frustrated though, why don't you just cheat a key or universal key in and stop struggling? Or up the chances to find keys?

Turn down the arousal settings in DCL too, so it's harder to get in that cycle.

 

Odds are though you're wearing a high security device, and those can't be struggled out of. You MUST complete the quest for them or find someone to help you. Changing the escape mechanism won't fix that, or if you change how those work too you'll neuter the mod (in that case, why have it at all?).

Edited August 22, 2021 by zarantha

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, Rhapsody81 said:

Did that already

yes i mean bodyslide) if items not show up:

1) from another mod

2) not selected in batch build this model

3) bodyslide is running from wrong folder

4) Screw up with your mo2 bodyslide settings and file paths.

 

Item name in game what not show up to i can check it (console id or correct name what i can find with command help)

Edited August 22, 2021 by Elsidia

[Elsidia]

4 hours ago, aurreth said:

I'm just asking to be pointed in the right direction.  What quests or scripts handle the escape mechanism?

You don't need to change scripts.

This chance is included in any device

If not, it uses script default chance from zadequipscript

Just add 3 properties to your inventory device or change exist value. This is in % (from 0% - 100%)

See screenshot (there is third value for picklock too):

 

Spoiler

UPD: Not test it but it compiles with difficulty level in MCM.

 

UPD; Also you not need change a scripts just set difficulty level to easiest:

Spoiler

 

Edited August 22, 2021 by Elsidia