framework Advanced Animation Framework

[dagobaking]

Yeah. There was another thread with some vague info and speculation. Someone said he was banned?

 

I don't happen to have that mod anywhere...

[forgets]

7 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Yeah. There was another thread with some vague info and speculation. Someone said he was banned?

 

I don't happen to have that mod anywhere...

Well, according to that LL staff member, he left the site voluntarily. Likely just a rumor that he was banned.

[dagobaking]

Ah. A staff member would know. Wonder what happened...

[forgets]

4 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Ah. A staff member would know. Wonder what happened...

Yeah, if anyone was his friend and had his personal email, they could see what was up, but it's like he didn't exist online anywhere but LoversLab. So, he's just gone. It's a shame, because he was a really important and influential modder.

[dagobaking]

Yeah. I talked through a number of tech things with him. Don't have any other account references to find him through tho.

 

Here is the thread: 

 

[gizmo1206]

so to any rse users,turns out aaf beta 1 and rse 3.9.9.7 dont work together not sure why but rse was really messed up for me but it started working fine going back to aaf 81

 

only have minimum amount of mods to test rse and aaf

Spoiler

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
TortureDevices.esm=1
Devious Devices.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
Rogg DD Items Manager.esp=1
Rufgt's Animations.esp=1
Atomic Lust.esp=1
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp=1
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp=1
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp=1
CumNWealth.esp=1
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp=1
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp=1
AAF_RSE.esp=1

 

 

[dagobaking]

You might have needed to use a clean save.

[Khaahan]

Alright, I'm back again... since I 'm not happy with the way things are going I'm restarting from zero, leaving installed, or I should better say "activated", only whatever is not directly involved in AAF and reinstalling, and I mean reinstalling, everything step by step, even if that means spending the rest night with it {it's 3:45am here}.

 

Now... why am I here? Because I read what someone said about "installation guides". I don't mean to be mean {pun not intended, perhaps!} since I respect the huge and awesome work you're doing here, I'm a hard worker myself, with all the problems I have in the process... with all due respect I must say none of those guides really helps and won't really help everybody... language barriers, stupidity {in my case most of the times}, a different mental approach to things {myself again, for sure}... whatever... I resolved to take all those guides and sew them, yeah...

The big problem there is the fact that one brings to another that brings to another and that one to another... is like playing with those nasty nested Chinese wooden dolls... which brings  only confusion and devious {like those homonymous devices} traps.

So I will "sew" them into a single page and see if all makes finally sense and helps me making things work as they should, once and for all.

It will be something personal, I won't share it, until I'm not sure it's been 100% successful and I won't ever share it if I won't have permissions from the various authors to do that.

I must do this, it's the only way I have to get throughout this, after having followed istructions at the letter.. clearly I needed to solve the puzzle that made me fall into mistakes and madness.

I hope all this makes sense to you guys either.

 

I wanted to let you all know what I'm doing, and if together with that I will even manage into making BodySlide and OutfitStudio work like a charm through ModOrganizer2 {i.e. loading those damned textures, first of all!} then I will be finally ready to give my own contribute at my very best.

 

 

Cheers!

[forgets]

7 minutes ago, Khaahan said:

Alright, I'm back again... since I 'm not happy with the way things are going I'm restarting from zero, leaving installed, or I should better say "activated", only whatever is not directly involved in AAF and reinstalling, and I mean reinstalling, everything step by step, even if that means spending the rest night with it {it's 3:45am here}.

 

Now... why am I here? Because I read what someone said about "installation guides". I don't mean to be mean {pun not intended, perhaps!} since I respect the huge and awesome work you're doing here, I'm a hard worker myself, with all the problems I have in the process... with all due respect I must say none of those guides really helps and won't really help everybody... language barriers, stupidity {in my case most of the times}, a different mental approach to things {myself again, for sure}... whatever... I resolved to take all those guides and sew them, yeah...

The big problem there is the fact that one brings to another that brings to another and that one to another... is like playing with those nasty nested Chinese wooden dolls... which brings  only confusion and devious {like those homonymous devices} traps.

So I will "sew" them into a single page and see if all makes finally sense and helps me making things work as they should, once and for all.

It will be something personal, I won't share it, until I'm not sure it's been 100% successful and I won't ever share it if I won't have permissions from the various authors to do that.

I must do this, it's the only way I have to get throughout this, after having followed istructions at the letter.. clearly I needed to solve the puzzle that made me fall into mistakes and madness.

I hope all this makes sense to you guys either.

 

I wanted to let you all know what I'm doing, and if together with that I will even manage into making BodySlide and OutfitStudio work like a charm through ModOrganizer2 {i.e. loading those damned textures, first of all!} then I will be finally ready to give my own contribute at my very best.

 

 

Cheers!

Are you finding that installation guides for your different mods contradict each other? I've never used a lot of the mods that others here use like CBBE, RSE, FPE, and so on. So if there's a conflict in the install guides, I do not have a clue about it. If you do organize the guides in whatever way makes sense to you, but in the end find yourself frustrated by contradictions between them, I would bring the specific issues to the attention of the mod authors so they can make changes to their guide(s).

 

Hope that made sense? If it didn't, just ignore me.

[gizmo1206]

2 hours ago, dagobaking said:

You might have needed to use a clean save.

also back to the morphs not working during animations it seems to be any mod that causes morphs for me and opening character creation and setting the pregnant belly works regardless of mods

even tried a morphing mod that doesnt have dependencies besides mcm and hud framework:

Spoiler

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
Rufgt's Animations.esp=1
Atomic Lust.esp=1
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp=1
SynthPlayer.esp=1

 

 

[Khaahan]

17 minutes ago, forgets said:

Are you finding that installation guides for your different mods contradict each other? I've never used a lot of the mods that others here use like CBBE, RSE, FPE, and so on. So if there's a conflict in the install guides, I do not have a clue about it. If you do organize the guides in whatever way makes sense to you, but in the end find yourself frustrated by contradictions between them, I would bring the specific issues to the attention of the mod authors so they can make changes to their guide(s).

 

Hope that made sense? If it didn't, just ignore me.

Made perfectly sense... and i do not ignore anybody. As I said starting my comment I meant no harm with my words. Contradictions always happen, notwithstanding our best intentions

 

What you said makes perfectly sense and I agree with you, I've always been propositive, never destructive. As a matter of fact i would have already do what you said and when I say too many guides can potentially bring confusion I'm just bringing something to the authors attention.

It's not something I've invented... it's in the common and universally accepted rules of communication, one of those which says that if I tell you something about an event giving you some detailed information and you talk about it to somebody and that somebody does the same with somebody else and you keep that process going to the point that somebody comes to me and talks to me telling me that information completely ignoring you were the first one who did spread that word in first instance, well... you can be absolutely sure the information you get will be completely different from the information you did spread.

 

So, speaking of your suggestion... I would gladly do what you said but fact is that before to be able to give detailed information and/or suggestions I need to make my way into the problem or the problems, first, and find out where they eventually are. Right before seeing your message i was trying to start putting those guides together and you know what... it really is a mess, it's more complicated than I even thought could be possible, at least for me.

This said... I honestly have no clue right now of what is gonna come out from my attempt. It could not really lead anywhere, except to make a hole in the water... but what can I say... no pain no gain. If I gotta get into trouble trying... well... so be it. Right?

[forgets]

29 minutes ago, Khaahan said:

Made perfectly sense... and i do not ignore anybody. As I said starting my comment I meant no harm with my words. Contradictions always happen, notwithstanding our best intentions

 

What you said makes perfectly sense and I agree with you, I've always been propositive, never destructive. As a matter of fact i would have already do what you said and when I say too many guides can potentially bring confusion I'm just bringing something to the authors attention.

It's not something I've invented... it's in the common and universally accepted rules of communication, one of those which says that if I tell you something about an event giving you some detailed information and you talk about it to somebody and that somebody does the same with somebody else and you keep that process going to the point that somebody comes to me and talks to me telling me that information completely ignoring you were the first one who did spread that word in first instance, well... you can be absolutely sure the information you get will be completely different from the information you did spread.

 

So, speaking of your suggestion... I would gladly do what you said but fact is that before to be able to give detailed information and/or suggestions I need to make my way into the problem or the problems, first, and find out where they eventually are. Right before seeing your message i was trying to start putting those guides together and you know what... it really is a mess, it's more complicated than I even thought could be possible, at least for me.

This said... I honestly have no clue right now of what is gonna come out from my attempt. It could not really lead anywhere, except to make a hole in the water... but what can I say... no pain no gain. If I gotta get into trouble trying... well... so be it. Right?

Well. Good luck.

[dagobaking]

4 hours ago, Khaahan said:

So I will "sew" them into a single page and see if all makes finally sense and helps me making things work as they should, once and for all.

I don't see the harm in trying this. But, please consult very closely with the authors of the existing mods and guides. There may be reasons for what they wrote that aren't obvious on the surface.

 

I have worked closely with them to help get the info right to avoid confusion. If people post guides, etc. with bad information it ends up causing a lot of confusion.

3 hours ago, gizmo1206 said:

also back to the morphs not working during animations it seems to be any mod that causes morphs for me and opening character creation and setting the pregnant belly works regardless of mods

even tried a morphing mod that doesnt have dependencies besides mcm and hud framework:

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GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
Rufgt's Animations.esp=1
Atomic Lust.esp=1
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp=1
SynthPlayer.esp=1

 

 

Are you saying that if you change the belly with Looksmenu, the change shows up during animation? But, not when other mods change the belly?

 

Others have reported that it works for them which suggests something going on differently with your game build...

[Khaahan]

3 hours ago, dagobaking said:

I don't see the harm in trying this. But, please consult very closely with the authors of the existing mods and guides. There may be reasons for what they wrote that aren't obvious on the surface.

 

I have worked closely with them to help get the info right to avoid confusion. If people post guides, etc. with bad information it ends up causing a lot of confusion.

 

I didn't mean to change anything in what has been written, I will simply put them together... for example... Farelle in his guide at a certain point gives a link to another guide so we are supposed to go there  and then go back to his own again... that might generate confusion or mistakes... my aim is to avoid that jump back and forth giving a unique reading flow.

 

Anyway @forgets is right... I will need a lot of luck indeed because is not as easy as it seems, which also tells me I might be right about the fact that there's a problem there, a problem I correctly spotted... else it would have been quite easy to do. Perhaps I'm wrong, who knows... but I believe I'll find that out pretty soon! 

 

I will gladly show the work done, to all the authors involved, so to have even their feedback. I strive for collaborations, that's why I'm enthusiast about your proposal. Speaking of... I've got an idea... since my body mod is about naturalism and realism I thought I should work on the body I made so that the breasts "adapt" to the animations... for example... they go flat when the woman lays on her back, or hang when she's on four... and so on. I mean... if by the XML  we can choose what to make the character wear in "action" why shouldn't we be able to even"wear" a different body as well? 

It might seem complicated and maybe it is, but there's no harm in trying. If it's successful then... well... this might become something unprecedented!

I'm quite an ambitious guy, I know.

 

[reaper69]

Had a porblem with the first minutemen quest in concord where the quest got stuck inside the museum.

 

tried everything to fix the problem.

 

then i disabled AAF and the quest work fine

 

anyone else having this problem

[chubjub]

Is there anyway to hotkey a specific animation ?  ie the kiss or cuddle animation from Atomic Lust pack , I know there's a quick scene hotkey was just wondering if this was possible.

[forgets]

3 hours ago, chubjub said:

Is there anyway to hotkey a specific animation ?  ie the kiss or cuddle animation from Atomic Lust pack , I know there's a quick scene hotkey was just wondering if this was possible.

I dunno...if there is a way to call it with the console, you can probably use the mod FO4 Hotkeys. I would ask Rufgt if there is a console command that calls his animations.

[Boceifus]

3 hours ago, chubjub said:

Is there anyway to hotkey a specific animation ?  ie the kiss or cuddle animation from Atomic Lust pack , I know there's a quick scene hotkey was just wondering if this was possible.

Look for Immersive Lovers Embrace on Nexus, there is a AAF versions and you have to have Atomic Lust animations. 

 

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21040  

 

Be sure to read the description and requirements before downloading and installing a version. 

[forgets]

12 minutes ago, Boceifus said:

Look for Immersive Lovers Embrace on Nexus, there is a AAF versions and you have to have Atomic Lust animations. 

 

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21040  

 

Be sure to read the description and requirements before downloading and installing a version. 

HOLY SHIT THAT IS AWESOME

 

Someone mentioned this here before...why the hell didn't I go look at it? Oh my god I'm an idiot

 

THANK YOU for linking this, sweet baby ?

[fobbadabalaba]

I have everything installed and seems to be working (adequately, still some CTD), but now comes along updates.  I’ve been dealing with RSE for the past few years and every time there was an update we had to make a new game or do the clean save process.  With AAF and the new animations, I’m not sure how they work with updates.  Do I just install the new mods? Do I have to uninstall and then install? Or do I have to do the whole clean save process?

 

thanks for the advice.

[Sulphur.999]

19 minutes ago, fobbadabalaba said:

I have everything installed and seems to be working (adequately, still some CTD), but now comes along updates.  I’ve been dealing with RSE for the past few years and every time there was an update we had to make a new game or do the clean save process.  With AAF and the new animations, I’m not sure how they work with updates.  Do I just install the new mods? Do I have to uninstall and then install? Or do I have to do the whole clean save process?

 

thanks for the advice.

You SHOULD to a complete clean save or new install. Depending on your mod manager it may or may not remove old scripts. If you are using NMM you should uninstall and then check the Data folder. If AAF still exists there then delete it. MO2 always get's it as far as I can tell. You have to clean up the scripts that are cooked into your save too. So fallrim tools.

Probably a lot like dealing with RSE was.

A couple of brave souls have tried just uninstall/reinstall and they say it's worked. I have no faith in that procedure. Heh

[forgets]

22 minutes ago, fobbadabalaba said:

I have everything installed and seems to be working (adequately, still some CTD), but now comes along updates.  I’ve been dealing with RSE for the past few years and every time there was an update we had to make a new game or do the clean save process.  With AAF and the new animations, I’m not sure how they work with updates.  Do I just install the new mods? Do I have to uninstall and then install? Or do I have to do the whole clean save process?

 

thanks for the advice.

Uninstall the old and install the new is usually the procedure. See if it works with your current save. If it works, no reason to fix what isn't broken. If it doesn't, make a clean save.

[Vuulgar]

Hi, I had the Valentine sat in the wrong chair issue from last patch and I noticed you mention finding something that was blocking quests. I started a new game and worked through the quest line and Nick sat in his own chair this time but when I got to the Reunions start, Dogmeat smelling the cigar, Dogmeat just ran away and Reunions did not trigger. I backed up in save and tried a couple times and even went to Hagan. No idea if its related, just passing on info.

[forgets]

1 hour ago, Vuulgar said:

Hi, I had the Valentine sat in the wrong chair issue from last patch and I noticed you mention finding something that was blocking quests. I started a new game and worked through the quest line and Nick sat in his own chair this time but when I got to the Reunions start, Dogmeat smelling the cigar, Dogmeat just ran away and Reunions did not trigger. I backed up in save and tried a couple times and even went to Hagan. No idea if its related, just passing on info.

I dunno, try giving him a Snausage instead of a cigar?

[dagobaking]

8 hours ago, Khaahan said:

I didn't mean to change anything in what has been written, I will simply put them together... 

Got it. Yeah. I do think that could be helpful because everyone has different writing styles. It's probably a bit of whiplash switching from guide to guide. A good, consistent layout style could help.

 

It probably is a pretty big task though because all of those guides get updated regularly.

8 hours ago, reaper69 said:

Had a porblem with the first minutemen quest in concord where the quest got stuck inside the museum.

 

tried everything to fix the problem.

 

then i disabled AAF and the quest work fine

 

anyone else having this problem

Yes. This is a known issue.

 

The bad news is that it is caused by a very root, fundamental line of code for which there isn't currently an alternative.

 

The good news is that Expired offered to add a replacement solution through LooksMenu. I'm not sure what the timing will be. But, that is a huge relief and may actually fix a few other things at the same time.

8 hours ago, chubjub said:

Is there anyway to hotkey a specific animation ?  ie the kiss or cuddle animation from Atomic Lust pack , I know there's a quick scene hotkey was just wondering if this was possible.

There is not a way to do this built into AAF. But, it would be very easy to make an add-on mod to do this. It would be great to see someone make a mod like this.