SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[fred200]

Ashal - Thank you!

I can finally retire my separate copy of PapyrusUtil.

 

[Thenryb]

Prior to the installation of "official" Beta 9, I was using the github version. After installing the official version and performing the clean system option, I have noticed a couple of changes. First, the option of adjusting the  size of the mouth opening is not present. Second, the time it takes for an animation to begin has substantially increased. I tried rolling back to the github version but got an assertion error when I tried to load the save.

[OsmelMC]

28 minutes ago, Thenryb said:

Prior to the installation of "official" Beta 9, I was using the github version. After installing the official version and performing the clean system option, I have noticed a couple of changes. First, the option of adjusting the  size of the mouth opening is not present. Second, the time it takes for an animation to begin has substantially increased. I tried rolling back to the github version but got an assertion error when I tried to load the save.

The "OpenMouth size" option should be on the "Expression Editor" page since now also have few new advanced OpenMouth options and there is none reason to keep those options separated.

 

"The time is relative" some scenes will probably take more time to start but another's will start almost instantly. Of course in general for some reason the first scenes before use the Clean System option or update usually take longer and after some time become faster. The functions that take more time beside the one to walk to the CenterRef, are the functions to find the Bed and the function to strip the actor in that order. By the way those functions are being enhanced to be more immersive and accurate so is worth it.

I planing run those functions at side with the rest of the process for the next version and that way reduce the waiting at less on a 50%. But for that official version you have to wait a year probably.

Edited August 6, 2021 by OsmelMC

[Thenryb]

Thanks for the prompt reply. The waiting time decreased almost immediately.

[Super Villain]

After upgrading from Beta 8, none of the facial expressions are showing on my character or other NPCs even after exporting all the expressions on it's tab page. I performed another clean reinstall, everything in it's default state, but still no expressions during sex, tried changing from "Apply Facial Expressions" to "Apply Lip Sync" but no results. 

[zaira]

11 hours ago, Ashal said:

The version included is actually ahead of 3.9 and is an unreleased update with a few new functions.

BTW: is there a git repo for Papyrus Utils? I still have an open question regarding the pop() behavior on empty lists - a peek into the code would help me to answer it for myself

a 1:1 encapsulation of STL would crash but "if not empty pop()" is expensive in Papyrus

[R246]

Do cum effect shaders still need manual editing of SexLab.esm > Shader Effects to disable the "animation" or is there now an MCM setting for this?

[judge007]

A report on the upgrade to Beta 9

 

Installed Beta 9

Disabled mod SexLab Utility +

Disabled "Better Blowjobs SE"

 

Based on @Ashal mentioning Papyrus scripts in Beta 9 being advanced beyond PapyrusUtil 3.9

I relocated Beta 9, SexLab Aroused, SLSO, & @Swe-DivX's 2000 slots SE {in that order} lower than PapyrusUtil 3.9

Ran FNIS

Rebuilt Bashed Patch

Loaded last game

 

Disabled defeat

Reset Animation Registry in SexLab MCM

ran "Clean System" in SexLab MCM

enabled Creatures in SexLab MCM

configured MCM in SexLab

Registered ZaZ anims

Ran SLAL & registered SLAL packs

Enabled Defeat & configured it.

 

exited after saving a new save

Looked in Resaver to clean SexLab Utilty +, no trace in save.

 

Loaded game, entered Riverwood.

Sex scenes triggered in:

Aroused Creatures

SexLab Adventures

Dangerously Nude

Horrible Harassment

SexLab Approach

TDF Aroused Rape

Sclongs of Skyrim full se w. SMP working

 

Anims advanced accordingly

 

Lip-sync operating

Mouth opening for oral

 

Left Riverwood, to the Barrow nearby, Defeat kicking in when overwhelmed.

Again all functioning as designed.

 

I'm running a Devious Devices free play-through, can't report on that or Estrus related events yet.

 

TL:DR

Beta 9 working well

SLSO works with it

2000 slots mod working with it,

SLAX tweaked with @factoryclose's keywords works with it.

At least one old school mod - Dangerously Nude working with it.

 

Should be happy folks all around.

[shardoom]

So...

 

All of these people saying the new beta9 is working perfectly for them, do YOU all have access to the default anims?

Or do you just not care about them, so are not reporting that they're missing?

[judge007]

4 minutes ago, shardoom said:

So...

 

All of these people saying the new beta9 is working perfectly for them, do YOU all have access to the default anims?

Or do you just not care about them, so are not reporting that they're missing?

They're all there, Dangerously Nude isn't calling anims by tag. It's calling anims directly.

[judge007]

32 minutes ago, shardoom said:

So...

 

All of these people saying the new beta9 is working perfectly for them, do YOU all have access to the default anims?

Or do you just not care about them, so are not reporting that they're missing?

 

 

So, you can even see them in FNIS Output report:

 

Reading SexLab V1.63 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%

Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%

Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%

&

Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by judge007

[JeDragon]

The only problem i receive after updating the Sexlab Framework BETA 9 is when i play sex scene in foreplay / leadin animation, the first 3 stage the both female and male actors voice is not moaning, then they start moaning in stage 4 until end, when it goes to the main sex scene, the moan voice is just sometimes play normally and sometimes bugged like in foreplay case. I try to reset voice registry but is not working too. The only voice mod i used for Sexlab is Sexlab Framework Sound Replacer by tops34 and it is overwrite the sexlab framework mod in MO2.

 

The other thing is fine working, including fx voices is fine also. I am still investigating about the moan issue.

 

Any idea what happened to my problem ? Please dont tell to have reinstall the framework

Edited August 6, 2021 by JeDragon
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[OsmelMC]

7 minutes ago, JeDragon said:

 

The other thing is fine working, including fx voices is fine also. I am still investigating about the moan issue.

 

Any idea what happened to my problem ? Please dont tell to have reinstall the framework

The moaning have few issues and can't be really solved I'm working on few options for the SexLab MCM to allow more control over the Moaning in general that will help you to deal with the issue. More details on my Tweaks Thread...

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, judge007 said:

SLSO works with it

Right now SLSO is not compatible with the SexLab BETA 9 because the SexLab Scripts files included on the SLSO will break a lot of functions on the SexLab Framework and if you don't use those files SLSO can't calculate the enjoyment between other things.

Of course if you are using my "SexLab Utility Plus" the compatibility issues with the SLSO should be solved but my SLU+ still don't have some of the last fixes made by Ashal so I don't recommend it for now.

[OsmelMC]

49 minutes ago, shardoom said:

So...

 

All of these people saying the new beta9 is working perfectly for them, do YOU all have access to the default anims?

Or do you just not care about them, so are not reporting that they're missing?

Try recompiling the new SexLab behavior with the "FNIS for Modders". And run FNIS again.

 

Check for real if you have some mod to remove the default Animations.

 

Load the saved Game and "Reset the Animation Registry" using the option with that name.

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by OsmelMC

[judge007]

7 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Right now SLSO is not compatible with the SexLab BETA 9 because the SexLab Scripts files included on the SLSO will break a lot of functions on the SexLab Framework and if you don't use those files SLSO can't calculate the enjoyment between other things.

Of course if you are using my "SexLab Utility Plus" the compatibility issues with the SLSO should be solved but my SLU+ still don't have some of the last fixes made by Ashal so I don't recommend it for now.

Are you sure about that?

 

From the play testing I just did, it certainly looked like both arousal and scene triggers were both working.

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, R246 said:

Do cum effect shaders still need manual editing of SexLab.esm > Shader Effects to disable the "animation" or is there now an MCM setting for this?

Assuming you are talking about the Camera Shake on player Orgasm. Yes now is possible disable it setting the new "Camera Shake Straight" slider option on 0.

[shardoom]

42 minutes ago, judge007 said:

 

 

So, you can even see them in FNIS Output report:

 

Reading SexLab V1.63 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%

Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%

Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%

&

Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...

 

 

Are you using MO2 or is this Beta9 directly overwriting beta8 in your data files?

[judge007]

2 minutes ago, shardoom said:

 

Are you using MO2 or is this Beta9 directly overwriting beta8 in your data files?

 

I'm using MO2, It's not an over-write, Beta 9 is a separate mod folder. Beta 8 is unchecked.

 

If it helps, I deleted all the old SKSE saved json files from an Overwrite folder that I use for mod config files that end up in Overwrite folder

[OsmelMC]

10 hours ago, The King In Yellow said:

After upgrading from Beta 8, none of the facial expressions are showing on my character or other NPCs even after exporting all the expressions on it's tab page. I performed another clean reinstall, everything in it's default state, but still no expressions during sex, tried changing from "Apply Facial Expressions" to "Apply Lip Sync" but no results. 

Enable the "Apply Facial Expressions" option

Enable the "Apply LipSync" option

Enable the "Auto Refresh Expression" option

Low the value of the "Refresh Expression Delay" slider option.

Go to the "Expressions Editor" page and make sure that each one of the Expressions are Enabled and have at lease 3 Phases for each Gender.

 

Send me the Papyrus log if the problem persists after all the previous steps.

[JeDragon]

33 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

The moaning have few issues and can't be really solved I'm working on few options for the SexLab MCM to allow more control over the Moaning in general that will help you to deal with the issue. More details on my Tweaks Thread...

 

So the moaning issue was the mod problem it self ? Glad that i think it was something wrong about my update procedure, because when i try in new game, the moaning issue is still there.

 

So are you planning to fix this issue in sexlab utility plus or something ? Thanks for clarify

[shardoom]

12 minutes ago, judge007 said:

 

I'm using MO2, It's not an over-write, Beta 9 is a separate mod folder. Beta 8 is unchecked.

 

If it helps, I deleted all the old SKSE saved json files from an Overwrite folder that I use for mod config files that end up in Overwrite folder

 

Thanks, I think I am making progress I have somehow managed to get it to run in FNIS and display the ancient AP anims ingame (so, yay...) at least I know they're there, somewhere...

 

Gah, this is so frustrating!!

 

Thank for your help

 

And thankyou @@OsmelMC for your seemingly endless patience. I shall leave you alone now and see if I can dig to the bottom of my troubles on my own.

[OsmelMC]

47 minutes ago, judge007 said:

Are you sure about that?

Yes I'm sure. If you have installed the SLSO Mod you will have more than one option not working on the SexLab Framework or in the SLSO depending if you are using the SexLab Scripts that comes with the SLSO or not but in both cases will be errors even if don't look like that.

 

Of course you can solve all those problems using the last SLU+ because come with the functions needed by the SLSO and is updated with almost all the changes done on the BETA 9. But don't have the last Ashal fixes so even if should be safe use the SLU+ I don't know the consequences.

[OsmelMC]

31 minutes ago, shardoom said:

 

Thanks, I think I am making progress I have somehow managed to get it to run in FNIS and display the ancient AP anims ingame (so, yay...) at least I know they're there, somewhere...

 

Gah, this is so frustrating!!

 

Thank for your help

 

And thankyou @@OsmelMC for your seemingly endless patience. I shall leave you alone now and see if I can dig to the bottom of my troubles on my own.

Once you fix your problem comment about. I want to know the reason and the solution.

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, JeDragon said:

So are you planning to fix this issue in sexlab utility plus or something ?

Not fixing because can't be fixed but at lease you will be able of configure it as you like more.

 

The problem with the Lips Sync and the Moaning Sounds is that each sound have different duration few of them take more than 8 seconds when the top recommend is 4 seconds and many of them have a silent space at the beginning while others have few moaning on the same sound file.

The only real solution is make the Moaning system from 0 and get rid of all the Custom Mods to add SexLab Voices, and of course if I do that the 80% of the users will ask for my head.

So my way to deal with the issue will be add few options that in combination will allow you set one of the many possible solutions include the original one as default. That way I can clean my hands like "Pontius Pilate"

Edited August 6, 2021 by OsmelMC