SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[Yoxgg04]

i love this mod but since ive downloaded the beta 9 sexlab takes a while to start and the hotkey k dosnt work anymore if anyone has suggestions or similar issues please respond but until then ill continue to troubleshoot.

Edited July 13, 2021 by Yoxgg04

[Yoxgg04]

23 minutes ago, Yoxgg04 said:

i love this mod but since ive downloaded the beta 9 sexlab takes a while to start and the hotkey k dosnt work anymore if anyone has suggestions or similar issues please respond but until then ill continue to troubleshoot.

 SUM was the culprit for the hotkeys not working but sexlab  still takes a while to start sex scene, might have something to do with victim/aggressor role.

Edited July 13, 2021 by Yoxgg04

[WinterWolverine]

58 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

@WinterWolverine

 

1. about the the actor that holds positions and those that are moved few rules are applied there. Like on Aggressive scenes the Victim hold position and the Aggressor walk because usually is related with rapes. To prevent clipping the actor using furnitures or swiming are not used as CenterRef. Except for the previous conditions the Player usually is used as CenterRef and in case none of the previous conversations can be possible will try with each of the actor starting from the first one. Finally as last resources will force the first Actor as CenterRef.

 

2. You don't need Better Blowjob anymore with the last GitHub. Since now you can control the OpenMouth in a way very similar but using the SexLab MCM "Advanced OpenMouth" option on the "Expression Editor" page

 

3. You can't patch a version on development like the one on the GitHub just because nobody will make a Patch for something that is changing every day. Wait for the official version release if you really need the Patch, but take in consideration that mostly of the old Patches are not longer required because are included. So first try without the Patch.

 

 

PS: a Manual with the descriptions of all the new options is required but I don't know where start plus I'm not good enough with the English to do that.

2. will remove on next playthrough if I remember, never really used expression editor, was afraid my pc would look daft lol.

3. not the same kind of patch your thinking of, will add info at bottom of next part of this post.

57 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

@WinterWolverine

 

By the way where is the "bash/smash".

 

Wrye Bash : https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837

Unofficial Mator Smash: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/39378

These create patches (not mod specific patches) alleviating conflicts and/or grouping and removing the need for some esp's being active but still getting the results/options and "smash" removes the rule of 1, I'm not a modder, I know they can be altered and things are updated if modders need (kind of like the loot team, but modders) I haven't tested MatorSmash (won't this playthrough, having fun for once in SE) but when I got rid of my Bash patch and started a new Pc (this Pc) my SL runs a lot better and I'm enjoying it, will remove BB next playthrough if I remember. You may want to go check them out, you'd probably understand better than I do, but WryeBash effects SL, again not sure about Smash, I stopped using it because it was giving some npc's black/brown/grey face, it's why I tried removing my Bash patch before removing or changing any specific mods.

 

Side note, WryeBash is a great tool for modders as it will tell you if things needs sorting, are missing masters etc... I use with vortex and loot, loot sorts load order, but Wrye tells you if masters need sorting etc... it just sometimes effects mods incorrectly when patching by grabbing the wrong info, just like smash removing the rule of 1 causes multi remake mods to compete instead of over righting each other and thus causes grey/black/brown face... but that's all I know about some of what they do, as I said, they just became a habbit. will still use bash, just not for it's patch making until I figure out a solution.

 

Be well, peace.

[judge007]

48 minutes ago, WinterWolverine said:

2. will remove on next playthrough if I remember, never really used expression editor, was afraid my pc would look daft lol.

3. not the same kind of patch your thinking of, will add info at bottom of next part of this post.

Wrye Bash : https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837

Unofficial Mator Smash: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/39378

These create patches (not mod specific patches) alleviating conflicts and/or grouping and removing the need for some esp's being active but still getting the results/options and "smash" removes the rule of 1, I'm not a modder, I know they can be altered and things are updated if modders need (kind of like the loot team, but modders) I haven't tested MatorSmash (won't this playthrough, having fun for once in SE) but when I got rid of my Bash patch and started a new Pc (this Pc) my SL runs a lot better and I'm enjoying it, will remove BB next playthrough if I remember. You may want to go check them out, you'd probably understand better than I do, but WryeBash effects SL, again not sure about Smash, I stopped using it because it was giving some npc's black/brown/grey face, it's why I tried removing my Bash patch before removing or changing any specific mods.

 

Side note, WryeBash is a great tool for modders as it will tell you if things needs sorting, are missing masters etc... I use with vortex and loot, loot sorts load order, but Wrye tells you if masters need sorting etc... it just sometimes effects mods incorrectly when patching by grabbing the wrong info, just like smash removing the rule of 1 causes multi remake mods to compete instead of over righting each other and thus causes grey/black/brown face... but that's all I know about some of what they do, as I said, they just became a habbit. will still use bash, just not for it's patch making until I figure out a solution.

 

Be well, peace.

Mator Smash is well abandoned, MatorTheEternal has taken employment in software development and given up on modding.

Your Bashed patch wasn't getting all it could, see this link for why.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/165519-wyre-bash-vs-mator-smash-vs-sseedit-vs-zedit/?tab=comments#comment-3335055

 

Gentleman answering the questions is the maintainer of wrye bash at afkmods, and a member here as well.

Was very helpful, and made my modding much easier.

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, Yoxgg04 said:

i love this mod but since ive downloaded the beta 9 sexlab takes a while to start and the hotkey k dosnt work anymore if anyone has suggestions or similar issues please respond but until then ill continue to troubleshoot.

About the Hotkey K. Some other Mod like probably SUM is use the same Hotkey or the Hotkey is changed on the SexLab. On this version you can remove the Hotkeys using the Esc key by the way.

 

 

The time that take to start is biggest on some cases and shorter on others most of the process don't take more than 2 seconds each one. The last version should be bit faster because the find bed function was optimized and the functions to find furnitures or Actors are the ones that take more time beside the one to strip.

The amount of Animations don't longer care because thanks the CACHE now usually take less than 1 second.

 

[WinterWolverine]

31 minutes ago, judge007 said:

Mator Smash is well abandoned, MatorTheEternal has taken employment in software development and given up on modding.

Your Bashed patch wasn't getting all it could, see this link for why.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/165519-wyre-bash-vs-mator-smash-vs-sseedit-vs-zedit/?tab=comments#comment-3335055

 

Gentleman answering the questions is the maintainer of wrye bash at afkmods, and a member here as well.

Was very helpful, and made my modding much easier.

Thanks for sharing, good to know that bash just needs ssedit to perform better, might check it out again if I start to run out of slots for mods or start a new char (so many esl flagged mods running out is harder these days on SE (well, if tagged on a proper mod that qualifies or is suitable)).

 

I could have sworn smashSE was just updated... must have been something different or not an official update.

 

SSEedit is another awesome tool I use for bare minimum... I use it to clean and sort to master the mods loot and bash tell me to lol (ssedit is intimidating, can mess a lot up)

 

 I'm not a modder at all, I do love trying out other peoples creative ideas though, and some people are amazing at it, others not as much, but some things I leave to those who know more, I read a lot of mod pages as I go, picking up little bits of info and ways to fix or use things, but, I'm just a gamer, not a creator/modder, if I didn't play this I'd know nothing of computers, no interest in tech, just have a thing for modded Skyrim, my pc plays Skyrim Le/Se(se only now) and fallout4(ish), that's it, not sure I can even call myself a gamer any more lol. But I'm still loving this game and the community of modders that make my game ever better.

 

thanks again for sharing that

 

Blessings to you and yours in these strange and trying times, peace.

[shardoom]

Ignored again

[OsmelMC]

2 minutes ago, shardoom said:

Ignored again

Not really. But I don't know for any mod with those issues on mind. 

 

I think the author of "More Nasty Criteria" usually play as Argonian so probably know few Mods

[shardoom]

10 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Not really. But I don't know for any mod with those issues on mind. 

 

I think the author of "More Nasty Criteria" usually play as Argonian so probably know few Mods

 

You misunderstand my problem then...

I play as a male, that's why I'd like to do the sexy times with a arg/kha female, but most of the times the animation looks awful.

[Yoxgg04]

37 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

About the Hotkey K. Some other Mod like probably SUM is use the same Hotkey or the Hotkey is changed on the SexLab. On this version you can remove the Hotkeys using the Esc key by the way.

 

 

The time that take to start is biggest on some cases and shorter on others most of the process don't take more than 2 seconds each one. The last version should be bit faster because the find bed function was optimized and the functions to find furnitures or Actors are the ones that take more time beside the one to strip.

The amount of Animations don't longer care because thanks the CACHE now usually take less than 1 second.

 

thank you, is there a way to disabled SUM's hot keys and keep sexlabs? Im willing to get rid of SUM at this point.

[judge007]

11 minutes ago, Yoxgg04 said:

thank you, is there a way to disabled SUM's hot keys and keep sexlabs? Im willing to get rid of SUM at this point.

I saw a post by Inte, where he said that SUM wasn't necessary for POP to run.

Which just leaves DD Equip requiring it.

 

EDIT: Sorry, it was Herowynne & jfraser here https://www.loverslab.com/topic/46551-prison-overhaul-patched/?do=findComment&comment=3435767

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by judge007

[Vyxenne]

5 hours ago, WinterWolverine said:

Bash patch does not play nice with this beta9 or beta8 for SE it seems(worse for 9)

This apparently varies by player and/or game setup. For example, I have ~390 active mods and have used a Bashed Patch with Beta 8 and also with the Github Dev version, and it works just fine.

[Vyxenne]

9 hours ago, shardoom said:

Is there any way we could have a beastrace enable/disable toggle so that we can turn off selection of certain animation if an Argonian or a Khajit is a participant?

It's quite disconcerting to play doggy animations and have the tail spear the fellow through his abdomen, and don't get me started on Argonian blowjobs??!

 

2 hours ago, shardoom said:

Ignored again

I raised this issue back in Beta 6 or so, maybe earlier. I didn't get an answer then, either, and my poor Gonad the Ballbustrian still gets gutted when he loses his mind and does an Argonian doggy-style.

[shardoom]

51 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

 

I raised this issue back in Beta 6 or so, maybe earlier. I didn't get an answer then, either, and my poor Gonad the Ballbustrian still gets gutted when he loses his mind and does an Argonian doggy-style.

 

Haha yup, Sexlab won't strip the beast race tails either.

Would have been quite the immersion killer, the tail magically disappearing. Slightly less so than having that damned tail spearing through my toons body though. lol

[judge007]

4 minutes ago, shardoom said:

 

Haha yup, Sexlab won't strip the beast race tails either.

Would have been quite the immersion killer, the tail magically disappearing. Slightly less so than having that damned tail spearing through my toons body though. lol

Brings new meaning to "getting a piece of tail" . . . .

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, shardoom said:

 

Haha yup, Sexlab won't strip the beast race tails either.

Would have been quite the immersion killer, the tail magically disappearing. Slightly less so than having that damned tail spearing through my toons body though. lol

In theory you can equip another tail or even one without meshes.

 

I'm overthinking one function to allow temporarily equip some things on the scenes.

 

Of course this will be for my "SexLab Utility Plus" and if is approved by the users and Ashal can be eventually included on the SexLab v1.8

[OsmelMC]

10 hours ago, Yoxgg04 said:

thank you, is there a way to disabled SUM's hot keys and keep sexlabs? Im willing to get rid of SUM at this point.

You can change the hotkey on the SUM MCM or toggle the option on the same page to disable the SUM Hotkeys.

 

Always remember check the SexLab Hotkeys too.

[belegost]

I'd like to ask is there an editable file somewhere that stores given character's Sex Diary and Sexual Experience stats?

 

I would like to edit the "Sexual Perversion" to something more manageable without the need to either install something like SexLab Shrines or resetting the stats entirely, because in a long-term playthroughs all character will inevitably reach "Nymphomaniac" rank, and with SLAX installed I found out it makes them impossible to reach any satisfaction, ever. Which with the current load order makes it near impossible to play the game due to crippling debuffs. I get the idea behind it, but I am at the point where it gets more frustrating than fun.

Having to go to MCM and manually set BOTH Time Rate and Exposure in SLAX to 0 after every single encounter is getting a bit old. I have looked through SL folder but not found anything that gives me a clue on where this data is being stored.

[OsmelMC]

5 hours ago, belegost said:

I'd like to ask is there an editable file somewhere that stores given character's Sex Diary and Sexual Experience stats?

 

I would like to edit the "Sexual Perversion" to something more manageable without the need to either install something like SexLab Shrines or resetting the stats entirely, because in a long-term playthroughs all character will inevitably reach "Nymphomaniac" rank, and with SLAX installed I found out it makes them impossible to reach any satisfaction, ever. Which with the current load order makes it near impossible to play the game due to crippling debuffs. I get the idea behind it, but I am at the point where it gets more frustrating than fun.

Having to go to MCM and manually set BOTH Time Rate and Exposure in SLAX to 0 after every single encounter is getting a bit old. I have looked through SL folder but not found anything that gives me a clue on where this data is being stored.

No the stats are stored on memory like most part of the game. And sadly the current version of SexLab don't include options on the MCM to adjust the stats values.

 

By other side the experience is always raising but stats like the Nymphomaniac depends only of the Animations Tags. For example the "Aggressive" and "Dirty" tags will make you more lewd and the "Loving" Tag will make you more pure. Like you probably noticed you will find more Animations with the Aggressive or Dirty tags than Animations with the "Loving" Tag and that explains why all the characters eventually become Nymphomaniac.

 

By the way you can add the "Loving" Tag to more Animations and that way try to compensate.

Edited July 17, 2021 by OsmelMC

[sirgilly]

I have a wierd issue, a while ago in my game after getting the spriggan curse in sexlab parasites I was no longer allowed to have my character in any animations, they were flagged as forbidden from animating. Once I cured the curse it seems to still be the case. From what I read it seems this relates to flagging child NPCs and the like, but my character is just a regular breton, not a custom race or anything and used to work fine and the only child mods I have is the new version of TKAA from the nexus. Is there a way to get the system to recheck my character so it can see there is nothing wierd there?

[effrenatus]

Does anyone know a way that only males get undressed for the animation?

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, effrenatus said:

Does anyone know a way that only males get undressed for the animation?

Of course. On the "Time and Stripping" page, the stripping configuration is separate be Gender.

[sirgilly]

19 hours ago, sirgilly said:

I have a wierd issue, a while ago in my game after getting the spriggan curse in sexlab parasites I was no longer allowed to have my character in any animations, they were flagged as forbidden from animating. Once I cured the curse it seems to still be the case. From what I read it seems this relates to flagging child NPCs and the like, but my character is just a regular breton, not a custom race or anything and used to work fine and the only child mods I have is the new version of TKAA from the nexus. Is there a way to get the system to recheck my character so it can see there is nothing wierd there?

Is the forbidden actor list refreshed so it rechecks if I do a clean in the Sex lab mcn?

[Vyxenne]

17 hours ago, effrenatus said:

Does anyone know a way that only males get undressed for the animation?

Just untick the female body slots on the "Timers and Stripping" page. Remember to do it for all of the animation phases- foreplay, aggressive, normal, etc. Otherwise you could have a situation where the female strips for the foreplay and gets dressed again for the main course. Lol.

 

Also, if you want to really get creative about it, you can set stripping not only by gender and Biped Slot but right down to the equipped armor/outfit item- for example, if you leave Females Biped slot 37 (Feet) ticked to make sure Uthgerd the Overarmored takes her stupid Heavy Armor boots off for sex, you can go to the Strip Item Editor page while wearing your slooty heels and set just those heels to Never remove.

 

EDIT: Sorry, @OsmelMC  , I didn't mean to step on your toes- I posted the above before I saw that you had already responded. That's what I get for being such an Eager Beaver (double-entendre intended, as usual.) Still, I'll leave it up to make sure @effrenatus gets the reminder to set stripping for all of the Phases.

Edited July 23, 2021 by Vyxenne
Because her Beaver is too Eager

[effrenatus]

Thanks you two! ^^ Small thing but useful hints.