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I don't get it I  will point out in my personal experiences is this my sister, my GF play skyrim they showed me their characters which were men. They were wearing skimpy Conan outfits built like well the rock or Arnold with so much muscle wielding giant swords. I didn't feel they did anything wrong I was well ok cool. I play as a female character and I run around wearing bikinis or over powered boob garnish while swinging a viking hand axe and a roman scutum. In fact they were the ones who helped me make my character and even outfitted her. Many of the male characters on TERA are played by women's. it's like the topic that was on here asking if its normal for a boy to play with barbies and girls playing with GI-Joe there is no harm in it, what this article tells me is that this is overly sheltered poor person who doesn't understand that entertainment is just that, in RL running around in lingerie and swinging a giant axe (although kinky) is not acceptable. people like the things they do and everyone has some sort of fantasy. I am a guy and honestly I have to see my self in the mirror everyday, I am sorry but I dont like looking at man junk all day so i play as a female character because to me they are beautiful. I am not woman but bloody hell I am sure some feel as I do and would rather look at the opposite genders assets versus their own in a game. I am ranting but sometimes this kinds of stuff makes me wonder why they bother posting that article when the only harm being done is shaming the people who make these mods and the people who enjoy them. It seems not so different then fat shaming or any type of shaming to me. I agree that sexism is a horrid offense but there are many people in power who are doing just that and yet they spend their time attacking communities who are not committing discrimination of sex in any kind but are in their own way complimenting both genders saying they are beautiful. There are many mods that add plain janes, typical males, fat men/women, or spindly men with no muscles. this community and other promote in some ways that no matter how you look in game that they are all wonderful. (sigh) bullocks and rubbish is all that this seems to me.

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5 minutes ago, Outlast1 said:

I don't get it I  will point out in my personal experiences is this my sister, my GF play skyrim they showed me their characters which were men. They were wearing skimpy Conan outfits built like well the rock or Arnold with so much muscle wielding giant swords. I didn't feel they did anything wrong I was well ok cool. I play as a female character and I run around wearing bikinis or over powered boob garnish while swinging a viking hand axe and a roman scutum. In fact they were the ones who helped me make my character and even outfitted her. Many of the male characters on TERA are played by women's. it's like the topic that was on here asking if its normal for a boy to play with barbies and girls playing with GI-Joe there is no harm in it, what this article tells me is that this is overly sheltered poor person who doesn't understand that entertainment is just that, in RL running around in lingerie and swinging a giant axe (although kinky) is not acceptable. people like the things they do and everyone has some sort of fantasy. I am a guy and honestly I have to see my self in the mirror everyday, I am sorry but I dont like looking at man junk all day so i play as a female character because to me they are beautiful. I am not woman but bloody hell I am sure some feel as I do and would rather look at the opposite genders assets versus their own in a game. I am ranting but sometimes this kinds of stuff makes me wonder why they bother posting that article when the only harm being done is shaming the people who make these mods and the people who enjoy them. It seems not so different then fat shaming or any type of shaming to me. I agree that sexism is a horrid offense but there are many people in power who are doing just that and yet they spend their time attacking communities who are not committing discrimination of sex in any kind but are in their own way complimenting both genders saying they are beautiful. There are many mods that add plain janes, typical males, fat men/women, or spindly men with no muscles. this community and other promote in some ways that no matter how you look in game that they are all wonderful. (sigh) bullocks and rubbish is all that this seems to me.

It is a content that thrives on drama and uneducated nonsense. Anything can be turned and shown into a bad light, try me and I'll explain to you why the Jedi are bad people. The article and video exists because there is an audience for that kind of stuff, however that audience isn't part of this community or the modding community at large. It's a content trying to get a raise out of people, to play on their sense of morale and goodness but without delving too deep into the subject. I mean if they think sex mod are so bad, why aren't they actually doing something against forced prostitution in their home countries? Why are they trying to put a blame on a hobby rather than tackle the real societal problems that is inequality and abuse perpetrated by individuals in a position of power? Well, the answer is money. It's easier to gain money writing an article than doing any life changing work.

 

Society do not change because of ideas, society change because of actions. Not everybody can be Émile Zola.

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7 minutes ago, bicobus said:

It is a content that thrives on drama and uneducated nonsense. Anything can be turned and shown into a bad light, try me and I'll explain to you why the Jedi are bad people. The article and video exists because there is an audience for that kind of stuff, however that audience isn't part of this community or the modding community at large. It's a content trying to get a raise out of people, to play on their sense of morale and goodness but without delving too deep into the subject. I mean if they think sex mod are so bad, why aren't they actually doing something against forced prostitution in their home countries? Why are they trying to put a blame on a hobby rather than tackle the real societal problems that is inequality and abuse perpetrated by individuals in a position of power? Well, the answer is money. It's easier to gain money writing an article than doing any life changing work.

 

Society do not change because of ideas, society change because of actions. Not everybody can be Émile Zola.

I see what you mean. I just hate this kinda of sodding garbage, it forces people to hate and shame those who have done nothing wrong at all. It's almost like book burning to me which is a crime against humanity to me. Targeting those that are not harming your way of life is wasteful, instead take that energy and fight the people who are committing discriminating crimes on gender. we are human whether man or woman we are pleasing to each other; men like the ladies, ladies like the men. The artists like on here or nexus show that by making these mods. yes we have slavery mods, sexual assault mods but I am sure in my opinion that many on here don't condone those things. I don't hate the modders that made these mods nor the people that use them. Games and movies are fantasy stories if this destroys their world then war games, fighting genres, in fact all games are then in the same boat and should be destroyed. by these standards we should all live in a 10x10 cubicle with no color, no identity, and no thought as creativity is also a crime, color is treason, speaking is sedition, and breathing is punishable by death.

 

Sorry I was venting stuff like this is irritating and I know that this carries no weight or value just wanted to get it off my shoulders. I hope next time this author of that article goes to McDonalds and his cheese burger falls on his/hers lap and the mayo gets all over their car and pants.

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12 hours ago, gooser said:

I don't even need to click on the link to know that this is probably another SJW whining about adult mods for Skyrim, the title of this thread says it all. I'm sorry (not sorry), but when it gets to the point where you associate with a group who are willing to classify calling a woman a cunt as a form of sexual assault, then you are clearly suffering from mental illness and you have lost all credibility.

 

Besides, we all know it's only sexist if a man does it or gets turned on by it.. which is why more and more guys like myself are just walking away and retreating into our hobbies and watching porn.

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11 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

From the article he's talking about: "...while the male characters end up roughly unchanged. You'll see very few sexualised men..." The first part is true, just because the second part is straight wrong. The difference is that the vanilla males already are ridiculous sexualised. All big guys with usually a lot of muscles. Where are the big bellys, the ugly faces? Or just straight barrels? Or at least a small round belly instead of six packs?

The point is that we as males just don't complain about that stuff. I don't exactly miss all this stuff.

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You know you have a point although speaking a a guy that was once a little boy that played with He-Man i dont ever actually recall wanting to be He-Man, theres no memories there of looking at my stick thin arms and going one day etc

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To be fair about the article: I think she might have a point, she just missed to make it. Can't remember the topic right now, but i remember a rant about Nexus here that was like "totally uncreative, they just throw out one skimpy follower after another". I don't say those don't need some effort and talent, but when i compare that to the new mods on LL... i like it better here. :smile: But i also see that this is probably a rather personal view, i hardly ever play with any followers at all, in my whole time with Skyrim modding i've downloaded a total of 2 followers, few more if i count quest mods like sexslaves which have followers additionally. 

Which mods are made totally depends on authors and their time ofc and i can understand that a custom made follower is something people want to have in their game, but where i totally agree with her is that i can't understand why those mods get downloaded that often. I just don't think sexism is the answer. If for no other reason because i don't consider some pixels with a bad AI a women, i respect real women too much to make that comparison.

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19 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Which mods are made totally depends on authors and their time ofc and i can understand that a custom made follower is something people want to have in their game, but where i totally agree with her is that i can't understand why those mods get downloaded that often. I just don't think sexism is the answer.

So part of the answer may be in Me! Me! Me! (Viewer discretion advised.)

Click "read more" on Scholek review: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/me-me-me/reviews#16710

 

Be wary, sometimes they come back to haunt you.

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either the people making all that drama about "Sexist Skyrim Mods" are pussy-whipped so hard that they don't know any better or are just selectively choosing some mods to further their agenda... when adult themed mods comprises a small niche in Skyrim and Fallout 4's modding scene...

 

"One hand keeps pointing, while the other hand keeps masturbating..."

 

Well...we gotta have some snowflakes to form an avalanche in the middle of summer some day...

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Not reading the article or watching the video, because I have more fun ways to waste my time on Christmas Eve. I'll just point out that a large number of the sexiest and most popular mods (at least for Bethesda games) are published by women. I'll also point out that, on Nexus anyway, there are multiple different ways to filter out that sort of mod if the sight of skin or extreme gore offends you. I'm going to attach a screenshot of the mod creation page at Nexus, so you can see all the ways an author can tag their files for easy filtering.

 

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If they're seeing sexist mods, it's because they've chosen not to use the tools that easily filter them out.

 

Now, I'm going to make a confession. I'm what you'd probably call a SJW (though I'm more of a battlemage than warrior). I also use some of the most extreme slavery and rape mods you'll find here. And there is no contradiction to that. These mods are just interactive porn, catering to a fetish. Some of the most outspokenly feminist porn actresses specialize in the rape/bondage/slavery porn fetishes. Because it's a fetish. It's just sex.

 

And in the case of these mods, unlike porn, no one is actually involved except the player. It's pixels on a video screen. Nobody harmed. Nobody even involved. A video game character has her head torn off by an orc and then her corpse defiled by a whole gang of them, nobody is actually harmed or involved in that. There's not even the possibility an actor loses control of himself and forgets to obey the safe word. There's no producer screaming at the actress off-camera that she'll be hooking on the street if she doesn't get her shit straight on-camera.

 

I can get upset at people like Harvey Weinstein and Matt Lauer. What you do to the pixels moving across your computer screen is your own business and anybody getting upset about it is being fucking ridiculous.

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Neither the article writer nor the youtuber 'discussing' said article made a good point. The issue with the article is that it is based on a false premise, everything in a video game exists to entertain the player, everything in a video game is an object crafted with a particular purpose in mind, so you can't objectify them because you can't objectify something that's already a mere object. The issue with the video is that the guy fails to recognize the faulty premise and relies on whataboutism to make an argument, which is also quite retarded.

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So the same "journalistic" Website (more like a SJW/Feminist/Left-Wing Mud-throwing Agency) which already ruined Star Wars for me,

is now leashing out against the Skyrim Modding Community?

No surprises there, since years those certain groups try to depicts Video-Games as Sexistic not diverse enough and generally Violent,

and somehow implies this would encourage/ trivialise such behaviors in real life.

The have been bashing at the Gaming Movie and Music-Industry for years to posh their agendas.

 

Iv'e honestly expecting something like this, was overdue knowing how these Zealots think and act.

Of course there are more Female followers out there, because they are in the highest demand, that's simply how it works.

Many of these "slutty" followers have even be MADE by very talented Female Modders with a good sense for aesthetic like "triptherift".

How would they call that? "Internalized misogyny" or something like that i would assume.

 

I's not like anyone have to install what they don't agree with or even have to see this content if they don't want to.

You don't like that content? Then fuck off! Simple as that.

I -for example- don't like Apple products, and disagree strongly with their Products, Prices and business-practice, but i can choose to not get their stuff.

I would not demand their Products to get pulled from the Market, or condemn their customers.

 

Imagine this would be the other Way around, a Website claims that Vibrators, Porn Movies and Game Mods are objectifying Men, and all the movies with a Femele protagonist

mowing down hords of Men (Kill Bill) would endorse violence against Men?

That would be silly right?

But in this case its about Womens Feelings, and feels >= reals! So it is an actual issue that needs to be dealt with. -.-

 

You can immediately see the difference between the Community's:

Nexus/LL is a Creative environment focusing on creating/making Stuff which many pople want,

These Sites are a Toxic Environment focusing on destroying/ruining Stuff which some people don't want.

 

I hope the SJW-Asylum don't leave their backdoor open again, otherwise there will soon be a huge inrush of these "Snowflakes", who went out of their way

to come over here, to bitch and moan about the Misogynistic Content hosted here.

And then the Mods need to swing the Ban-hammer because "oppression" or something.

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2 hours ago, blutoblutarsky said:

I hate these YouTube "blogger type" clowns. 

 

Im not referring to a start up band looking to promote thier sound or even someone making a funny movie (or trying), for the sake of entertaining people. Hell even people putting up stupid cat videos are better than this type of YouTube person (at least they are putting up something they think will be funny even if it's only funny to crazy cat grannies). 

 

I don't care about the content but commentary videos to me just seem so pointless. It's their time their lives, they are free to waste it as they please.

 

 

Whatchu talkin about, that guy is making 895 bucks per month for his 'commentary' videos. That's a pretty good deal for recording and uploading your opinion.

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After this, I want to make a video with fragments from Slaverun Reloaded where my character been raped, whipped, fucked by pack of dogs again and again. And in the end of video to write - "I'm a girl and i like it". And send it to Anita Sarkeesian.

 

p.s. interestingly, LL administration is ready for aggressive attack from feminist?

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Oh, how fun!  I hope I get pestered.  I'd love to see a feminist deconstruction of the futa fetish.  Is it further objectification and the insinuation that they're somehow better with a male organ?  Then again, it is the literal replacement of men with women in the male role in the most complete sense possible.  How confusing!

 

Surely they'll help me work this out.

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5 minutes ago, zarzil said:

Oh, how fun!  I hope I get pestered.  I'd love to see a feminist deconstruction of the futa fetish.  Is it further objectification and the insinuation that they're somehow better with a male organ?  Then again, it is the literal replacement of men with women in the male role in the most complete sense possible.  How confusing!

 

Surely they'll help me work this out.

It's easy, you do it and not them so it is sexist.

 

Know the damsel in distress trope? Sexist. Relatively easy to understand the line of thought here.

But turn that around and have the girl save the guy it's not sexists against men but the girl is not independend enough or has a flat character since her only motivation is saving him.

 

We all should treat feminists just like the white power movement or the KKK. The mere name shows that they intend to put women above men.

If you want equl rights call yourself egalitarian, thing is most people don't want that.

Feminists are no different in that regard, they jsut use guilt to grab power. They are to weak to claim power themselves so they try to shame people into giving it to them.

 

PS: Let me be honest, I did not even read the OP but I could already tell what this was about since I have seen it a few dozen times.

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