More Nasty Critters Legendary Edition

[WCSC]

Probably a dumb question but.

 

So I currently install ABC after a new update of MNC, do I no longer need to use ABC now?

 

Also, this may or may not be related.  I've reinstalled a new set of mods on a new desktop and it's been some time but I reinstalled Estrus for Skyrim, and Chaurus, and the spider, and mimic estrus add-ons.  I can get the Spider, and Mimic to work, but the Chaurus does not work at all.  Nothing new added in mods since my last desktop other than revisions of MNC and ABC.  Anyone know if these revision is / can cause issues with Caurus Estgrus?

 

Thanks!

 

****EDIT*****my issue with Chaurus is that the "Spit" does not activate the Tentacles****

[MadMansGun]

5 hours ago, osmelmc said:

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this is what i'm seeing from the multi creature problem (werewolves in this case):

1. start animation, one gets a dick and the other does not.

2. changed the werewolf's dick setting in the mcm as the animation is still running.

3. now they are vice versa, they have swapped who has a dick.

4. changed the werewolf's dick setting in the mcm back to the original setting.

5. they swapped back to what it was before.

6. changed the werewolf's dick setting in the mcm to a 3rd setting.

7. both now have dicks (or sometimes no one does).

8. changed the werewolf's dick setting in the mcm back to the original setting.

9. random chance of having dicks or not.

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, WCSC said:

Probably a dumb question but.

 

So I currently install ABC after a new update of MNC, do I no longer need to use ABC now?

 

that is indeed a question I wanted to ask myself

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Also, this may or may not be related.  I've reinstalled a new set of mods on a new desktop and it's been some time but I reinstalled Estrus for Skyrim, and Chaurus, and the spider, and mimic estrus add-ons.  I can get the Spider, and Mimic to work, but the Chaurus does not work at all.  Nothing new added in mods since my last desktop other than revisions of MNC and ABC.  Anyone know if these revision is / can cause issues with Caurus Estgrus?

 

Thanks!

Describe your "issues" in more detail or you cannot be helped

[WCSC]

5 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

that is indeed a question I wanted to ask myself

Describe your "issues" in more detail or you cannot be helped

Sorry, forgot to add.

 

My issue is that the Chaurus "Spit" for Tentacles does not work.  I just get plain ol spit at

[Nymra]

23 minutes ago, WCSC said:

Sorry, forgot to add.

 

My issue is that the Chaurus "Spit" for Tentacles does not work.  I just get plain ol spit at

hmm, I doubt that this is related to MNC then. Would try in the Charus Thread. 

Run Loot. 

Check if nothing overwrites Estrus Chaurus or parts of it. Set the tentacle attack to 100% chance and see if the chaurus is maybe from some mod (just a random idea tho) and not a normal one. Sorry cant help in any other form I never experienced the problem. 

Also from what I know you need Estrus Version 160r1 for Estrus Chaurus compatibility. 

[Grey Cloud]

Updated

MNC to v12.3A

ABC to v1.80

Reinstalled Creature Framework v1.1.0 pre2

Let MC overwrite everything.

 

Now getting the CF has downgraded things will be broken message and I'm stuck in the initialising loop.

Tried reinstalling JContainers as per the description page. Did the re-register thing. Reinstalled SLAX and SLAC.

Still no joy. Everything seems to be working but I get the message, the loop and I obviously can't get in CF.

 

Thanks

 

EDIT:

Well still no joy.

I've installed CF v2.0.1A which got rid of the error message but I'm still stuck with the initialising message. I tried reinstalling JContainers again but that didn't help.

[k20383]

I am updating from version 12.07 to 12.3A, I noticed that it says you removed Creature Framework but in TES5Edit it still listed as required, can I use the CF from version 12.07? Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't cause any problems.

[Grey Cloud]

16 minutes ago, k20383 said:

I am updating from version 12.07 to 12.3A, I noticed that it says you removed Creature Framework but in TES5Edit it still listed as required, can I use the CF from version 12.07? Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't cause any problems.

You are supposed to use the standalone version of CF.

[OsmelMC]

On 10/14/2020 at 9:31 PM, WCSC said:

Sorry, forgot to add.

 

My issue is that the Chaurus "Spit" for Tentacles does not work.  I just get plain ol spit at

Just make sure of put Estrus Chaurus after MNC on the Plugins load order.

By the way other mods like "SexLab Stories" also modify the Chaurus so better place Estrus Chaurus at last on the plugins load order.

[WCSC]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

You are supposed to use the standalone version of CF.

what's the stand alone version of cf?

[Grey Cloud]

38 minutes ago, WCSC said:

what's the stand alone version of cf?

The standalone version of Creature Framework, i.e. the version which was used before MMG started incorporating it in MNC.

[WCSC]

5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

The standalone version of Creature Framework, i.e. the version which was used before MMG started incorporating it in MNC.

And where is that?

[Grey Cloud]

9 hours ago, WCSC said:

And where is that?

FFS. Click on the big green 'Download this file' button and use your eyes.

[oldprv724]

20 hours ago, osmelmc said:

Just make sure of put Estrus Chaurus after MNC on the Plugins load order.

By the way other mods like "SexLab Stories" also modify the Chaurus so better place Estrus Chaurus at last on the plugins load order.

And don't forget to re-register the animations in the Estrus Chaurus menu anytime you rebuild/clean the Sexlab Animation registry.  

[w0883g0ngz]

Hey there. I've got a strange issue where beasts won't trigger SL events via Defeat. Every time I'm downed the animals just leave me alone, despite assault chance being set to 100%. 

It's been this way for a good hundred hours worth of game-play across multiple character saves.  At first I thought it was due to beasts not being aroused enough or some other happenstance, but it's become very clear in my current play-through that something's off. 

From what I can determine, creatures that use MNC for animations and such aren't enabled by creature framework, and I can't seem to be able to enable them. At least not in game. 

I've got all of the requirements for the various mods installed and there's no noticeable compatibility issues. If I had to take a guess it might be because of ABC? Though I remeber running that alongside MNC on my old set-up with no noticeable issues. 

What's strange is that I can trigger SL events with MNC handled beasts via other means, such as the Sl debug spells or Sl Survival creature breeder with no T-posing, no crashing or any other obvious signs of poor modding. Although I am facing issues with some SL survival features not triggering/occurring. 

Has this or something similar happened to anyone else?

[Stryker1177]

Just a note on the Sexlab Aroused Creatures + patch. Osmelmc-mod-tweak patch modifies the SE version of Sexlab Aroused Creatures and backward coverts it for LE, but you must load SE version. It won't work on the LE version. You added the link for the LE version not the SE version.

[Grey Cloud]

22 minutes ago, w0883g0ngz said:

If I had to take a guess it might be because of ABC?

If I had to take a guess it would be that Defeat is crap. Always has been and is now whichever variant is used.

[Noctum28]

On 10/4/2020 at 5:13 PM, Mez558 said:

Does this look right?

 

 

I'm referring to the name of the frostatronach as âtronachfrost or âncientfrostatronach.

 

On 10/14/2020 at 4:05 PM, osmelmc said:

The Frost Atronash disappear on sex scenes if the MNC sex meshes is enabled.

These observations might be related.

[Mez558]

4 hours ago, w0883g0ngz said:

Hey there. I've got a strange issue where beasts won't trigger SL events via Defeat. Every time I'm downed the animals just leave me alone, despite assault chance being set to 100%. 

It's been this way for a good hundred hours worth of game-play across multiple character saves.  At first I thought it was due to beasts not being aroused enough or some other happenstance, but it's become very clear in my current play-through that something's off. 

From what I can determine, creatures that use MNC for animations and such aren't enabled by creature framework, and I can't seem to be able to enable them. At least not in game. 

I've got all of the requirements for the various mods installed and there's no noticeable compatibility issues. If I had to take a guess it might be because of ABC? Though I remeber running that alongside MNC on my old set-up with no noticeable issues. 

What's strange is that I can trigger SL events with MNC handled beasts via other means, such as the Sl debug spells or Sl Survival creature breeder with no T-posing, no crashing or any other obvious signs of poor modding. Although I am facing issues with some SL survival features not triggering/occurring. 

Has this or something similar happened to anyone else?

 

If you're able to use other methods to trigger SL events with the same creatures that Defeat is failing to the the issue isn't likely to be with ABC.

 

I run ABC with Defeat and MNC (12.3 still) with (*almost) no issues.

 

In the Defeat MCM check, Player as victim, List of enabled races.
Does your list look complete? As in it's showing things like DragonPriests and Ballisters etc.

 

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If not, go to the General Settings and Click Reconfigure

 

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Actually, it probably wouldn't do any harm to click reconfigure anyway.

 

*The only issue I have with Defeat and MNC is WispMothers but I've not tried to start an SL event by alternative means so I am not sure if that is Defeat that is at fault. They're kinda rare so I've never bothered to look further into it. I'll give that a try sometime.

[Mez558]

52 minutes ago, Noctum28 said:

These observations might be related.

I expect so. Invisible Frost Atronachs was the first thing I noticed after upgrading ABC. So I did a reinstall of MNC (updating to 12.3 from whatever it had been) and then ABC after and was not seeing the ABC meshes, that was when I noticed this.
I just renamed the ABC meshes to match and it works fine. Either I and, possibly, Osmelmc are the only ones to suffer this or no one else has been assaulted by a Frost Atronach recently, if so then your missing out, people. ?

[WCSC]

11 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

FFS. Click on the big green 'Download this file' button and use your eyes.

Well this is why I'm confused. I see the CF in the DL section here, but I also see this one

 

Is there a difference in the two?

[Mez558]

1 minute ago, WCSC said:

 

Is there a difference in the two?

About 5 1/2 Years ?

 

I would use the one from the MNC page.

[WCSC]

4 minutes ago, Mez558 said:

About 5 1/2 Years ?

 

I would use the one from the MNC page.

Understood but (2018)......that's why I was asking.  Don't know why the main CF from my link is up, it's confusing.....thanks for clarifying.  That happens to be the one I've had installed with MNC and maybe why I have some issues...

[Grey Cloud]

That and the fact that one labelled v1.1.0-pre2 and the other is labelled v2.0.1A.

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

2 hours ago, Mez558 said:

Either I and, possibly, Osmelmc are the only ones to suffer this or no one else has been assaulted by a Frost Atronach recently, if so then your missing out, people. ?

I'm sorry if I missed something. I heard someone gets invisible?

Any special animation?

 

What am I missing?

LE

SexLab Utility Plus v20200920.7z

MNC v12.3 (+ included CF)

ABC HDT 1.80

 

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