More Nasty Critters Legendary Edition

[MadMansGun]

20 minutes ago, btasqan said:

Do we still need ABC for animated schlongs on beasts now? Or does MNC do that these days?

MNC comes with basic support for animated penises.

[btasqan]

So after my update from MNC 12.1 to 12.5+CF 2.0.1. I noticed that my animation count registration SL anim loader is broken. The amount of animations is not consistent. If register, I get different values for human and creature animations. For example I had 600 human and 720 creature animations before the update. Now I sometimes will have values from 600-611 and for creatures 710-730. The only solution i ve found till now is to get a save before any creatures were loaded or start a new game.

 

Seems CF needs a clean installation. I had this issue months ago when CF was integrated into MNC and had to start a new game for MNC and CF for SL anim loader to register animations flawlessly.

[MadMansGun]

.....cf and slal are not the same thing.

[Martianman]

How do I disable the nude meshes for animals that I don't want? If I delete the folder under meshes it just makes them invisible. I tried disabling them in the creature framework MCM but they still have the nude skins, so that seems useless  Can anyone help?

[btasqan]

13 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

.....cf and slal are not the same thing.

I know that. If you update from 12.1 to 12.5 + CF 2.0.1A SLAL wont work correctly when registering animations once creatures have appeared in your game. This can be related to some other conflict, but it is triggered by a CF update.

 

Edit: I mistook the issue to be CF related, but I removed CF from the MNC package 12.1 and used it on my 12.5 install and the issue persisted. MNC remaining the only thing that has changed currently. Dont know what is causing SLAL to bug out like this on a mid playthrough. I didnt update any animations or anything.

[btasqan]

4 hours ago, Martianman said:

How do I disable the nude meshes for animals that I don't want? If I delete the folder under meshes it just makes them invisible. I tried disabling them in the creature framework MCM but they still have the nude skins, so that seems useless  Can anyone help?

If you delete the creature folders from your game folder you also have to replace them with the original ones, otherswise the game wont have files to use. This makes the creatures invisible.

I hope you made a back up before deleting those creature files, otherwise you will have to get them back from the Sexlab install archive.

 

What you have to do is:

1. Oninstall MNC

2. Open MNC archive and delete the creature folders that you dont want nude.

3. Repack MNC archive.

4. Reinstall your modified MNC archive (best with a mod manager!)

 

If your creatures are still invisible, then it is because you deleted their files the other day. You have then 2 options:

 

1. You will then have to do what I stated above and recover their files from the Sexlab install archive and then put them back in the correct path in your game install.

Or

2. Simply uninstall and reinstall Sexlab. This simple option comes with a culprit: be careful in case you have mods that override Sexlab. You dont want to choose "overrite all" when your mod manager asks you. You will have to choose overriting for each mod individually depending on whether you had it override sexlab or not before.

[MadMansGun]

3 hours ago, btasqan said:

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you missed 2 steps: editing the MoreNastyCritters.esp & MNC.json

the modified ArmorAddons need to be removed from the esp so the game will load the original meshes, and the json needs to be edited to permanently stop CF from adding dicks to them.

[Tlam99]

Got a question about se version.

Pfiffy made a mnc 12.5 conversion, but as far I understood 12.5 does not provide the CF.

I use the MNC12.3 SE at the moment, shall I just overwrite MNC12.3 with 12.5 and use the CF from 12.3 ?

Or better wait...

[MadMansGun]

8 minutes ago, T-lam said:

Got a question about se version.

Pfiffy made a mnc 12.5 convertion, but as far I understood 12.5 does not provide the CF.

I use the MNC12.3 SE at the moment, shall I just overwrite MNC12.3 with 12.5 and use the CF from 12.3 ?

Or better wait...

the CF's in MNCSLAL's download page should also work in SSE, but many people find that Pfiffy's port of the original CF works better.

 

if the one in 12.3 was working fine for you then download "CreatureFramework V2_0_1A.7z"

 

[Tlam99]

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2 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

V2_0_1A.7z

TY

No problems on installing as I used V2_0_1 b4

MNC 12_5 SE mixed results.

ABC animations got problems (see screenshot)

Standard anim ok on the first run, but no more dick on 2nd run.

switched back to 12_3, dick showed up on 1st, 2.nd anim.

 

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[Tlam99]

new, as pictures will not go to spoiler..

 

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[MadMansGun]

31 minutes ago, T-lam said:

new, as pictures will not go to spoiler..

 

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pic 1: MNC horse skeleton files getting overridden.

pic 2: CF just being a bitch.

[Martianman]

10 hours ago, btasqan said:

If you delete the creature folders from your game folder you also have to replace them with the original ones, otherswise the game wont have files to use. This makes the creatures invisible.

I hope you made a back up before deleting those creature files, otherwise you will have to get them back from the Sexlab install archive.

 

What you have to do is:

1. Oninstall MNC

2. Open MNC archive and delete the creature folders that you dont want nude.

3. Repack MNC archive.

4. Reinstall your modified MNC archive (best with a mod manager!)

 

If your creatures are still invisible, then it is because you deleted their files the other day. You have then 2 options:

 

1. You will then have to do what I stated above and recover their files from the Sexlab install archive and then put them back in the correct path in your game install.

Or

2. Simply uninstall and reinstall Sexlab. This simple option comes with a culprit: be careful in case you have mods that override Sexlab. You dont want to choose "overrite all" when your mod manager asks you. You will have to choose overriting for each mod individually depending on whether you had it override sexlab or not before.

Thank you for your detailed explanation! Would I be able to bypass these steps by getting the vanilla meshes and renaming them with the MNC files and then overwriting the MNC files with the vanilla ones?

[Tlam99]

1 hour ago, MadMansGun said:

pic 1: MNC horse skeleton files getting overridden.

ok, then the horse cannot use ABC anymore if I understud right.

Will give it a try again with hiding this part of ABC

[MadMansGun]

1 hour ago, T-lam said:

ok, then the horse cannot use ABC anymore if I understud right.

MNC penises are animated.....it's just that MNC's horse penis is a bit more animated than ABCs and has extra nodes.

[Reddragon01826]

Just downloaded 12.5 I upgraded from 12.3 and now im not getting any collision with the penis. Not sure what's going on. Is there a nubbin 12.5 se

[MadMansGun]

5 minutes ago, Reddragon01826 said:

 im not getting any collision with the penis.

if your talking about the horse that's because ABC has not been updated yet for the change.

 

if not the horse then read the ABC forum, it looks like something has been going on with it.

[btasqan]

12 hours ago, Martianman said:

Thank you for your detailed explanation! Would I be able to bypass these steps by getting the vanilla meshes and renaming them with the MNC files and then overwriting the MNC files with the vanilla ones?

I have never tried that, but it could work. You dont need to rename MNC into vanilla or put the MNC files into the vanilla path. Just make sure that the vanilla meshes have the MNC name and are in the MNC path. Try it on one or two animals and see if it works. If so then do it for the rest. Also I had missed one thing, which MadMansGun pointed out:

19 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

you missed 2 steps: editing the MoreNastyCritters.esp & MNC.json

the modified ArmorAddons need to be removed from the esp so the game will load the original meshes, and the json needs to be edited to permanently stop CF from adding dicks to them.

It is possible that you dont need to do the above if your idea with renaming and replacing meshes works. Try out your idea first, if it does not work you will have to use MadMansGuns method.

[Tlam99]

8 hours ago, Reddragon01826 said:

now im not getting any collision with the penis

posted a config in MNC SE discussion, might work for LE, too ?

[alona chemerys]

um hey,ever since im using MNC version 12_3A my game is very laggy and until this month i've tried everything from putting papyrus tweak in the skyrim.ini like you said, reinstalling skyrim again and again and after my 8th attempt its still lagging my game out,can you help me what had happened ? or was it had something to do with the CF ? thanks in advance 

and oh this is my load order in case someone knew what exactly happened 

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
Heels Sound.esm=1
EFFCore.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
SkyUI.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
Bijin NPCs.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp=1
RSChildren.esp=1
RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
7B Casual Item.esp=1
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1
HDT Havok Object.esp=1
The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp=1
Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
SexyVest.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp=1
SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp=1
SexLab LightMeUp Oldrim.esp=1
NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
FloppySOS.esp=1
Apropos2.esp=1
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1
RSCOsos.esp=1
RSCOnaked.esp=1
RSCOarmors.esp=1
AnubAnimObj.esp=1
GangMen Nurse.esp=1
Partizan Nurse.esp=1
Rachel Nurse Outfit.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Console Books.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Blush When Aroused.esp=1
nhaSimpleSexing.esp=1
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1
Merta Black Rose Armor.esp=1
Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1
Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1
JiubQuestMarkers.esp=1
crimsonquestmarkers.esp=1
SexLabAddActor.esp=1
[NIND] Amitiel Angelic Armor Set LE.esp=1
[NIND] CBBE Slooty D.va Suit.esp=1
[NIND] CBBE NewmCeremRedone.esp=1
[NIND] MengTaXueMiCheng_BYJ.esp=1
DX Succubus Armor.esp=1
[NIND] CBBE Milk Girl.esp=1
Sexy Maid 2.esp=1
artt Lucky Stripes.esp=1
artt Trick or Treatment.esp=1
DR Aris by Team TAL.esp=1
[NIND] Dragon Priestess.esp=1
MiniBikiniHeart.esp=1
NIER 2B Set by Team TAL.esp=1
Sayaka_Suit.esp=1
[NIND] Taimain Asagi LE.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
Unlimited Shouts V1.1.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
SexLab_Solutions.esp=1
Aradia Secretary.esp=1
NCK30Obj.esp=1
SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp=1
SLAnimSpeed.esp=1
Daedric Bitchs.esp=1
SexLab Confabulation.esp=1
SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp=1
 

[btasqan]

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4 hours ago, rayhandar said:

um hey,ever since im using MNC version 12_3A my game is very laggy and until this month i've tried everything from putting papyrus tweak in the skyrim.ini like you said, reinstalling skyrim again and again and after my 8th attempt its still lagging my game out,can you help me what had happened ? or was it had something to do with the CF ? thanks in advance 

and oh this is my load order in case someone knew what exactly happened 

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
Heels Sound.esm=1
EFFCore.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
SkyUI.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
Bijin NPCs.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp=1
RSChildren.esp=1
RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
7B Casual Item.esp=1
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1
HDT Havok Object.esp=1
The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp=1
Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
SexyVest.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp=1
SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp=1
SexLab LightMeUp Oldrim.esp=1
NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
FloppySOS.esp=1
Apropos2.esp=1
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1
RSCOsos.esp=1
RSCOnaked.esp=1
RSCOarmors.esp=1
AnubAnimObj.esp=1
GangMen Nurse.esp=1
Partizan Nurse.esp=1
Rachel Nurse Outfit.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Console Books.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Blush When Aroused.esp=1
nhaSimpleSexing.esp=1
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1
Merta Black Rose Armor.esp=1
Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1
Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1
JiubQuestMarkers.esp=1
crimsonquestmarkers.esp=1
SexLabAddActor.esp=1
[NIND] Amitiel Angelic Armor Set LE.esp=1
[NIND] CBBE Slooty D.va Suit.esp=1
[NIND] CBBE NewmCeremRedone.esp=1
[NIND] MengTaXueMiCheng_BYJ.esp=1
DX Succubus Armor.esp=1
[NIND] CBBE Milk Girl.esp=1
Sexy Maid 2.esp=1
artt Lucky Stripes.esp=1
artt Trick or Treatment.esp=1
DR Aris by Team TAL.esp=1
[NIND] Dragon Priestess.esp=1
MiniBikiniHeart.esp=1
NIER 2B Set by Team TAL.esp=1
Sayaka_Suit.esp=1
[NIND] Taimain Asagi LE.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
Unlimited Shouts V1.1.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
SexLab_Solutions.esp=1
Aradia Secretary.esp=1
NCK30Obj.esp=1
SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp=1
SLAnimSpeed.esp=1
Daedric Bitchs.esp=1
SexLab Confabulation.esp=1
SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp=1
 

 

 

I never instlalled 12.3, but I was able to confirm slight laggyness on 12.5. Using CF 2.0.1 (which came with my prior MNC install (12.1) instead of 2.0.1A with MNC12.5 didnt solve the issue, so maybe the issue is somewhere in MNC. Doing the same stuff on 12.1 was much smoother in my case, so I reverted.

 

Nevertheless, did the laggyness appear immediately or hours after the update? Usually in skyrim, the more active followers you have, the more resources you need on the long run to keep up the performance. Also check your CF settings to see if you messed up the defaults.

 

And post your skyrim.ini, remember to put it under SPOILER tags.

[alona chemerys]

7 hours ago, btasqan said:

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I never instlalled 12.3, but I was able to confirm slight laggyness on 12.5. Using CF 2.0.1 (which came with my prior MNC install (12.1) instead of 2.0.1A with MNC12.5 didnt solve the issue, so maybe the issue is somewhere in MNC. Doing the same stuff on 12.1 was much smoother in my case, so I reverted.

 

Nevertheless, did the laggyness appear immediately or hours after the update? Usually in skyrim, the more active followers you have, the more resources you need on the long run to keep up the performance. Also check your CF settings to see if you messed up the defaults.

 

And post your skyrim.ini, remember to put it under SPOILER tags.

i cant remember after how many hours since its a month ago but know that the lag always happens every 1,5 second and it frustates me out. Even it causes my fps to dropped inside an interior places such as alvor's house which is just a small cell but weirdly is that after i open MCM and resume my game the fps went normal and so smooth but 2 seconds later the fps drop and stutter is back again. 

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Also here's my skyrim.ini (or do you mean skyrimprefs.ini ?)

[Display]
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce MX230"
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=0
bReflectLODLand=0
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=0
[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
[Papyrus]
fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6
fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

 

[Grey Cloud]

Is that all of your Skyrim.ini? ? Or are you using MO/MO2?

[alona chemerys]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Is that all of your Skyrim.ini? ? Or are you using MO/MO2?

I'm using NMM

[Grey Cloud]

9 hours ago, rayhandar said:

I'm using NMM

In which case your Skyrim.ini should be here:

C:\Users\<username>\Documents\My Games and should contain more entries than the one you posted.

 

MO/MO2 keeps the file in a different place which is why I asked.