quest Thief

[Mez558]

I'm getting closer, Dogma suggested looking for old script files and it turns out there were script files from a previous version where I had extracted the BSA and it hadn't uninstalled these.

I can now enter with the Cheesemonger but the option of following later just drags me in with the cheesemonger, however since I shouldn't be there it never completes the scene.

 

That was on an old save tho' so went back to a new game.

 

Now, the carriage to Rorikstead doesn't work. Carriage never stops, just returns to Falkreath and then back to Rorikstead. My character did undress on the way back and on the way to Rstd the second time I had the option to masturbate but no dialogue before this. The carriage then turned around again so I killed the AI loaded again.
 

This is easily solved by just ignoring this scene and making  your own way to solitude.

I have to admit I hate this whole scene, it's just a huge time sink and am glad it appears to be optional, other than then fact you miss out on some karma but still, I would like it to work.

I've had this before but it only happened the once, this has happened twice in a row and life is too short to watch this scene again for another 10minutes

[Highborn]

8 hours ago, Mez558 said:

I'm getting closer, Dogma suggested looking for old script files and it turns out there were script files from a previous version where I had extracted the BSA and it hadn't uninstalled these.

I can now enter with the Cheesemonger but the option of following later just drags me in with the cheesemonger, however since I shouldn't be there it never completes the scene.

 

That was on an old save tho' so went back to a new game.

 

Now, the carriage to Rorikstead doesn't work. Carriage never stops, just returns to Falkreath and then back to Rorikstead. My character did undress on the way back and on the way to Rstd the second time I had the option to masturbate but no dialogue before this. The carriage then turned around again so I killed the AI loaded again.
 

This is easily solved by just ignoring this scene and making  your own way to solitude.

I have to admit I hate this whole scene, it's just a huge time sink and am glad it appears to be optional, other than then fact you miss out on some karma but still, I would like it to work.

I've had this before but it only happened the once, this has happened twice in a row and life is too short to watch this scene again for another 10minutes

The carriage scene might go back to Falkreath if there is any unexpected conflict with Rorikstead, like a city mod. 

[Mez558]

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

The carriage scene might go back to Falkreath if there is any unexpected conflict with Rorikstead, like a city mod. 

I do have some City mods but none affect Rorikstead. It's also worked fine before so not sure why it isn't now. I might just have been on a fluke that it happened twice in a row but I don't fancy sitting through it all again to find out.

I did find that if you refuse to let him do you in sight of the city gates and then say you will find an alternative means of getting to Rorikstead/Solitude, you are returned to Falkreath but not given a refund, not sure if this is intentional or not, however you can now steal his horse and ride that to Solitude

[kboom]

Does anyone have the bug which teleport player to middle of the map player hover in the air? when playing rock scissor paper at the hot spring? version 0.9.1 with fix1

[xtrange988]

9 hours ago, kboom said:

Does anyone have the bug which teleport player to middle of the map player hover in the air? when playing rock scissor paper at the hot spring? version 0.9.1 with fix1

 

There's a tree behind the player in that scene that causes that, disable it with the console. It happened to me twice and that solved it.

[Mez558]

I can enter the city and play out the cheese mongers dialogue if I pay the fee when first asked but if I say I will join him later then I am still dragged into the city but without the dialogue.

I can use COC to exit the city and enter with Cooli in a crate but cannot start the cheesemongers dialogue from start, it acts as if we have already spoken and I've declined his invite.

 

Without the dock loader scenes I don't think I can get my Karma high enough to activate the extra scenes.

 

Spent too long on this now so giving up. As fun as Thief it is a one shot deal that then needs removing after you reached the current "end" and I cannot justify doing a complete resinstall for that.

 

I don't know if there is a minimum suggested level for Thief but here are somethings I suggest completing before starting the quest.

 

Reach level 10 at least - Make sure you've had the invite to join the Dawnguard and the Jarl of Falkreath

Visit Falkreath - Get the Dog scene out the way with Lod so Barbus is going to meet you later and Lod's dialogue is not interrupted with it.

Visit Solitude, get the Execution out the way.

 

I seemed to have small issues around these events which could have been coincidences but things worked better when I made sure they were out the way.

[kboom]

15 hours ago, xtrange988 said:

 

There's a tree behind the player in that scene that causes that, disable it with the console. It happened to me twice and that solved it.

Thank you so much! it did fix the problem.

[Highborn]

3 hours ago, Mez558 said:

I can use COC to exit the city and enter with Cooli in a crate but cannot start the cheesemongers dialogue from start, it acts as if we have already spoken and I've declined his invite.

 

Without the dock loader scenes I don't think I can get my Karma high enough to activate the extra scenes.

 

The cheesemonger scenes are only available after you check the window of Varg the Fixer and decide that you need to learn about his schedule. Then, you go to the cheesemonger and ask him for help. You should be able to do that with low or high karma. The scenes will slightly change according to that.

 

So, you don't need to do the porter scenes to get the new content. I still don't know why are you having trouble entering the city. There must be some sort of incompatiblity going on.

[Mez558]

6 hours ago, Highborn said:

The cheesemonger scenes are only available after you check the window of Varg the Fixer and decide that you need to learn about his schedule. Then, you go to the cheesemonger and ask him for help. You should be able to do that with low or high karma. The scenes will slightly change according to that.

 

So, you don't need to do the porter scenes to get the new content. I still don't know why are you having trouble entering the city. There must be some sort of incompatiblity going on.

 

Oh don't I feel stupid. I thought there was a different response from the "I know how that meeting would end" so I never played it out that far.

Luckily I hadn't gotten around to uninstalling it as I've been out

Thank you for pointing that out.

[blatter900]

Great mod, but I am stuck. After escaping the hidden room there is a boss battle near Falkreath. Have defeated all Zoes conjurations but Zoe does not seem to take any damage and I have no idea how to defeat her. Hope someone can help me out.

[Mez558]

2 hours ago, blatter900 said:

Great mod, but I am stuck. After escaping the hidden room there is a boss battle near Falkreath. Have defeated all Zoes conjurations but Zoe does not seem to take any damage and I have no idea how to defeat her. Hope someone can help me out.

you need to attack Zoe on the second time she appears. So you escape the room, she appears floating in air and gloats about your doom or something then disappears. She will then come out of the ground somewhere within that ring of fire. Run to her and swing away at her, don't bother with power attacks as they don't seem to do enough extra damage to compensate for their slow recovery. She'll summon skeletons, kill them wait for her to reappear, repeat. I found if I couldn't kill her before the elementals I was in trouble but normally got rid of her before then.

[junior55]

When the update ??

wait too long

[bigdog38]

Is brewmasters translation available yet ?

[Highborn]

3 hours ago, junior55 said:

When the update ??

wait too long

no eta. It will probably take months though.

1 hour ago, bigdog38 said:

Is brewmasters translation available yet ?

No. 

[Mez558]

Well, thought I might have been getting closer.

 

Found some more errant script files starting qf_

removed these. Started a clean game. Installed Thief.

Now, when I choose to remain outside instead of going in with the merchant I do remain outside.

But..

Still have no options to talk to the cheesemonger about helping spy on Varg.

He'll give me some gold from his profit share and some cheese but the Varg thing is not progressing.

I do get a message that I should find out his schedule but I expect this is meant to instigate a quest stage update that will then make the conversation options with the Cheesemonger change. It doesn't, it falls down here.

I thought it probably would as I was only getting on of the Gigolos stripping so at that point the script was failing somewhere.

 

Got a few mods installed that I don't really use but I do use some of their features. PO for example has a great tool for resetting broken scripts to release the PC. It's, in all honesty, the only reason it's still installed. Guess that will be one of the first to go.

[Mez558]

On 1/7/2019 at 2:53 PM, Garret012 said:

Does anyone know how could I edit the scenes? like adding more positions to lod scene or change the position in the repitable scene with him. Just for my own entertainment

 

 

 

You can replace the HKX files. This won't extend scenes or add anything animations. You'd need to edit Dogma's scripts for that. If you extract all the meshes from the BSA you will find the animation files there. The problem is working out which one is assigned to which scene. I managed to change one, it was not the one I thought it was but it worked and lined up ok. So if you could find out which of the standard, leito, animations apply to which scene then you could rename another set of SL animations and replace them, which is all I did.

[Garret012]

Thanks for your response, maybe it would be best to find where exactly is written the sequence of animations and change it? I don't know where that is sadly

[Adisprox]

So i got 0.9 on my PC and its working well, had 0.8 on my laptop and wanted to upgrade it to 0.9 but now i got a problem. I did a clean reinstall,installed both 0.9 and the 0.9 BME but now when ingame Thief wont appear in MCM,even after starting a fresh new game. Tried checking my load order, using console commands but no luck, it just wont appear in my MCM.

[GrimDoom]

Was playing with the dialogs and saw this trio anal-cunni dialog called "hp_sol_winkingskeever_trioTopic_1_2[0314F557]" So i guess this is supossed to be implemented in a future update? or did i missed something?

[brewmasterhal]

7 hours ago, SexLaberrrr said:

Was playing with the dialogs and saw this trio anal-cunni dialog called "hp_sol_winkingskeever_trioTopic_1_2[0314F557]" So i guess this is supossed to be implemented in a future update? or did i missed something?

Stand next to the two people having sex on the bed in Madam Petit's for a few seconds.

[maledic]

Does anyone having a problem with the Elf in the newest version?

 

I remember in version 0.8.2 that i could sell the pages, agree with prices and "do it".

 

But i tried out of curiosity with version 0.9 and i sold the pages, agree with prices and when is time to "do it", he always tells me to establish a price, which i already have done it.

[brewmasterhal]

I finally finished working on the v0.9.2.2 Patreon edition.  You can find the download link for it in the FAQ.  For those of you who have been playing the machine-translated version, you should be able to install right over it and keep going as normal with only minimal issues, but no promises.

 

This version was really complicated to work on.  I ended up re-contextualizing almost all of the roughly 850 lines of dialog to try to make sense of a 0 karma player and a 200+ karma player acting almost the same way.  Play through the cheesemonger scenes again if you have already and you'll see what I mean: the "date" scene is pretty much completely different in context, and the "meeting" scene has significant changes in context.

 

It'll probably be a few more days before I update the FAQ and achievement spreadsheet to reflect this version, but I'll post about it when I do.

[brewmasterhal]

16 minutes ago, maledic said:

Does anyone having a problem with the Elf in the newest version?

 

I remember in version 0.8.2 that i could sell the pages, agree with prices and "do it".

 

But i tried out of curiosity with version 0.9 and i sold the pages, agree with prices and when is time to "do it", he always tells me to establish a price, which i already have done it.

You still have the script file \Data\Scripts\hp_liorel_var.pex loaded.  You need to delete it and re-start your playthrough to get it to work.

[maledic]

2 minutes ago, brewmasterhal said:

You still have the script file \Data\Scripts\hp_liorel_var.pex loaded.  You need to delete it and re-start your playthrough to get it to work.

Ohhh i see. Thank you for your help

[flosseggy]

10 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

Play through the cheesemonger scenes

hi, 

the cheeesemonger scenes are patreon exclusive ? i tried but nothing seem to follow ( version 9.1.2 )