HDT SMP for SSE?

[Vyxenne]

8 hours ago, jesseg said:

frame rates would go from 60 to 1/5 during a collision process and then back up to 60 when the animation finishes, but now with UNP that doesn't happen,

This is unclear to me- are your frame rates worse or better with UNP? All your statement above says is that with UNP your frame rates do not go from 60 to 1/5 (how can you even measure one-fifth of a frame per second? What frame counter do you have that displays 0.2 fps?) and then back to 60.

 

Could you please state in an affirmative way what does happen with UNP instead of citing a single sequence of unlikely events (1/5 of a frame per second is an unlikely event in my mind) and stating "but that's not what happens with UNP?"

 

Asking for two reasons:

1. I also use UUNP bodies (assuming that's what you mean when you say "UNP") with HDT-SMP-SE

2. I'm also running an i5 3570- mine is a K, liquid-cooled, and I have overclocked it to 4.2 GHz using the OC wizard in my BIOS

 

As info, I'm running hair, earrings, amulet, boobs, butt and belly SMP physics with collisions and, unless my long swishy pony tail gets hung up trying to extricate itself from a bad situation (possibly the "collision process" of which you wrote), I run a reliable 45-50 fps with my GTX970.

[Beef Cheeks]

9 hours ago, jesseg said:

i am using a i5 3570 with a gtx 1080

I should probably ask. How much RAM do you have?

[jesseg]

1 hour ago, Vyxenne said:

This is unclear to me- are your frame rates worse or better with UNP? All your statement above says is that with UNP your frame rates do not go from 60 to 1/5 (how can you even measure one-fifth of a frame per second? What frame counter do you have that displays 0.2 fps?) and then back to 60.

 

Could you please state in an affirmative way what does happen with UNP instead of citing a single sequence of unlikely events (1/5 of a frame per second is an unlikely event in my mind) and stating "but that's not what happens with UNP?"

 

Asking for two reasons:

1. I also use UUNP bodies (assuming that's what you mean when you say "UNP") with HDT-SMP-SE

2. I'm also running an i5 3570- mine is a K, liquid-cooled, and I have overclocked it to 4.2 GHz using the OC wizard in my BIOS

 

As info, I'm running hair, earrings, amulet, boobs, butt and belly SMP physics with collisions and, unless my long swishy pony tail gets hung up trying to extricate itself from a bad situation (possibly the "collision process" of which you wrote), I run a reliable 45-50 fps with my GTX970.

Ok, first and foremost, i meant between 1 to 5 frames per second, not one-fifth, sorry for the confusion, with UUNP i don't get these frame drops in the Bee and Barb.....

I'm using KS wig and HDT earings, no amulet, no NPC's using SMP either, but frame rates just drop dramatically when using CBBE body....

My frame rates are a lot better with UUNP than it is with CBBE...

 

I am using 16GB DDR3 ram, Skyrim SE is installed on a SSD drive....

 

But since no one has complained about frame rate issues with CBBE and SMP, then it has to be something on my end....

 

Also. since the switch UUNP, I have been finding it hard to find armour, could one point to a thread or PM me....

Thank you...

[Beef Cheeks]

22 minutes ago, jesseg said:

Ok, first and foremost, i meant between 1 to 5 frames per second, not one-fifth, sorry for the confusion, with UUNP i don't get these frame drops in the Bee and Barb.....

I'm using KS wig and HDT earings, no amulet, no NPC's using SMP either, but frame rates just drop dramatically when using CBBE body....

My frame rates are a lot better with UUNP than it is with CBBE...

 

I am using 16GB DDR3 ram, Skyrim SE is installed on a SSD drive....

 

But since no one has complained about frame rate issues with CBBE and SMP, then it has to be something on my end....

 

Also. since the switch UUNP, I have been finding it hard to find armour, could one point to a thread or PM me....

Thank you...

Can you run http://modwat.ch and send us a link to your profile?

[Nimkal]

I've noticed it's been over a week and no one has replied to my questions, so maybe I'll be luckier this time:

 

Hey, does CBBE-XML require SoS Full or does SoS Light which comes with Tempered skins also work? Also, does schlong to clam function? And I'm awfully new to HDT, therefore sorry to ask, but does this make every female NPC have the same features? I'm feeling somewhat clueless so far in my move from CBP to HDT. 

Finally, anyone tried this "full smp physical shape experience version 2.3" from damao: http://www.9damao.com/thread-97607-1-1.html
I did translate the page but I still couldn't figure out which body shape it requires. (maybe it has it's own mesh & texture?)

I'm hoping to find these answers on this thread, Thanks

[Beef Cheeks]

I'm not sure about the CBBE questions @Nimkal but the Full SMP Physical Share Experience Version 2.3 is a port of UUNP Special to SMP. It is UUNP, and it includes the many UUNP presets which you can use to select a body.

[R246]

18 hours ago, XenoDrake said:

but the Full SMP Physical Share Experience Version 2.3 is a port of UUNP Special to SMP. It is UUNP, and it includes the many UUNP presets which you can use to select a body.

If that's the same as he (clone real) hosts on his patreon, then it doesn't include the SMP Body reference mesh. All he provides in his patreon version is UUNP reference meshes updated with links to SMP Body XML (cutdown versions as obviously UUNP doesn't have all the stuff SMP Body has).

[Vyxenne]

On 8/13/2018 at 8:58 AM, XenoDrake said:

I'm not sure about the CBBE questions @Nimkal but the Full SMP Physical Share Experience Version 2.3 is a port of UUNP Special to SMP. It is UUNP, and it includes the many UUNP presets which you can use to select a body.

Spoiler

 

So, um, any chance of a link?

[Beef Cheeks]

6 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

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So, um, any chance of a link?

...It's in that thread in the results of your search. Have you tried clicking it? It's in this thread. Around page 52. Be aware you'll have to overwrite the install with the Chinese one from the originating site: The English mod has a broken archive. (The Chinese FOMOD is the same as the English one for reference, but in Chinese) Overwrite with the latest BodySlide, and then delete/hide the CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\SMP物理身型1.8.osp file from both versions of the mod and use the English translated SMP set. (SMP Physical Body Type 1.8) The Chinese one is built using a super old BodySlide that had a bug that broke the building in newer versions.

[Vyxenne]

54 minutes ago, XenoDrake said:

...It's in that thread in the results of your search. Have you tried clicking it?

Yes, even though it was under a different name, I not only clicked it but downloaded the archive, which is totally corrupt and cannot be extracted by 7zip. Then I came back here and asked for a link.

 

Now that you have told me it's "that Chinese body" as discussed several places in this thread, I know exactly where to get it. I didn't know that it was supposedly a UUNP clone so I may have to revisit it- I'm mostly just interested in the xml's for Labia physics/collisions. Thanks.

[Yoxgg04]

http://www.9damao.com/thread-97607-1-1.html how can i modify the body in bodyslide it dosnt give me the files to adjust.

 

[Beef Cheeks]

9 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

Yes, even though it was under a different name, I not only clicked it but downloaded the archive, which is totally corrupt and cannot be extracted by 7zip. Then I came back here and asked for a link.

 

Now that you have told me it's "that Chinese body" as discussed several places in this thread, I know exactly where to get it. I didn't know that it was supposedly a UUNP clone so I may have to revisit it- I'm mostly just interested in the xml's for Labia physics/collisions. Thanks.

The corrupted zip can still be installed into Mod Organizer. Just overwrite it with the Chinese mod so that the corrupted files get replaced.

[Beef Cheeks]

9 hours ago, Yoxgg04 said:

http://www.9damao.com/thread-97607-1-1.html how can i modify the body in bodyslide it dosnt give me the files to adjust.

 

You need to download the remastered download from that page. The one with the password "ygkd".

[Yoxgg04]

1 hour ago, XenoDrake said:

You need to download the remastered download from that page. The one with the password "ygkd".

ive tried that one but there are two problems i cant build the (COAN) shapes and when building the regular hdt shapes through bodyslide provided but the creator it crashes, when i transfer caliente files to regular bodyslide folder i still cant build the (COAN) files and from what ive seen the HDT files arent working in game either. In the link i first provided everything works perfectly in game aside from unpsliders and thats my only problem with it.

[Beef Cheeks]

On 8/15/2018 at 1:00 PM, Yoxgg04 said:

ive tried that one but there are two problems i cant build the (COAN) shapes and when building the regular hdt shapes through bodyslide provided but the creator it crashes, when i transfer caliente files to regular bodyslide folder i still cant build the (COAN) files and from what ive seen the HDT files arent working in game either. In the link i first provided everything works perfectly in game aside from unpsliders and thats my only problem with it.

You're not supposed to build the COAN shapes. They're stub body shapes. You only need to build a main body, hand, and feet you want to use and the equipment for that body. I recommend the UUNP Special Feet and the UUNP Special hands. Are you batch building or building one at a time? Batch building is the way you need to do it.

 

I would try the body and hdt preset below instead of the one from that mod, but overwrite those mods with this. If you use this, build with the SenpoUUNPSMPFemaleBody and SenpoUUNPSMPFemaleHands instead of UUNP Special, but keep the UUNP Special Feet.

 

 

Be aware that HDT will not apply to your body if the clothing is not built for HDT also. You need UUNP HDT clothing as well, like these which replaces all vanilla clothing. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10980 Be aware there is a Bodyslide group you can select from the dropdown that says HDT and non-HDT, which chooses HDT for things that realistically would have physics and non-HDT for things like iron armor.

 

So, open bodyslide after you install these, choose the body preset you want to use from the bottom of the top two dropdowns, then batch build everything (don't bother selecting hdt for every armor piece, just choose the body, feet, and hands you want to use and build everything), then go to the groups dropdown and select the UUNP Vanilla Outfits HDT and non-HDT, and batch build again and it will build everything with HDT that should have physics realistically.

[Vyxenne]

2 hours ago, XenoDrake said:

Be aware that HDT will not apply to your body if the clothing is not built for SMP also. You need UUNP SMP clothing as well

Could you please define what this means? I have great physics on all of my outfits with HDT-SMP-SE installed- the only thing outfits need to show BBP-type physics is the physics bone weights. The same exact clothing that had BBP-type physics when I used CBP Physics still has physics when I replaced CBP with HDT-SMP without making any changes to the outfits or rebuilding them in Bodyslide. As far as I know, there is no such thing as "UUNP SMP Clothing." Any outfit with breast, butt and belly bone weights will exhibit physics in those areas with no changes whatsoever specific to SMP or CBP Physics or HDT-PE in Oldrim.

 

Could you please define what is "clothing built for SMP" and/or "UUNP SMP Clothing?" What is it about an outfit that makes it a "UUNP SMP" outfit?

[Beef Cheeks]

3 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

Could you please define what this means? I have great physics on all of my outfits with HDT-SMP-SE installed- the only thing outfits need to show BBP-type physics is the physics bone weights. The same exact clothing that had BBP-type physics when I used CBP Physics still has physics when I replaced CBP with HDT-SMP without making any changes to the outfits or rebuilding them in Bodyslide. As far as I know, there is no such thing as "UUNP SMP Clothing." Any outfit with breast, butt and belly bone weights will exhibit physics in those areas with no changes whatsoever specific to SMP or CBP Physics or HDT-PE in Oldrim.

 

Could you please define what is "clothing built for SMP" and/or "UUNP SMP Clothing?" What is it about an outfit that makes it a "UUNP SMP" outfit?

Yeah you are correct with your correction. I guess I was quick to explain. You do not need "SMP" clothing. I meant to say "HDT" clothing. It cannot be ANY clothing or armor mod. They have to be built for HDT, and have the weights and proper bone names attached for HDT-SMP to attach to them.

[elzee]

I have bad news here.

 

hydrogensayshdt, the author of hdt SMP, PE, HH, has lost interest in TESV. She don't want to touch Skyrim LE and SE anymore.

So SMP, PE, HH will no longer update. at least in the near future I guess.

As SMP is still unstable and has some major bugs (like makes Lurker T pose and CTD and conflict wtih mods handling menumode), I hope someone can continue hydrogensayshdt's work. 

[Yoxgg04]

11 hours ago, XenoDrake said:

You're not supposed to build the COAN shapes. They're stub body shapes. You only need to build a main body, hand, and feet you want to use and the equipment for that body. I recommend the UUNP Special Feet and the UUNP Special hands. Are you batch building or building one at a time? Batch building is the way you need to do it.

 

I would try the body and hdt preset below instead of the one from that mod, but overwrite those mods with this. If you use this, build with the SenpoUUNPSMPFemaleBody and SenpoUUNPSMPFemaleHands instead of UUNP Special, but keep the UUNP Special Feet.

 

 

Be aware that HDT will not apply to your body if the clothing is not built for HDT also. You need UUNP HDT clothing as well, like these which replaces all vanilla clothing. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10980 Be aware there is a Bodyslide group you can select from the dropdown that says HDT and non-HDT, which chooses HDT for things that realistically would have physics and non-HDT for things like iron armor.

 

So, open bodyslide after you install these, choose the body preset you want to use from the bottom of the top two dropdowns, then batch build everything (don't bother selecting hdt for every armor piece, just choose the body, feet, and hands you want to use and build everything), then go to the groups dropdown and select the UUNP Vanilla Outfits HDT and non-HDT, and batch build again and it will build everything with HDT that should have physics realistically.

Always very helpful, thank you so much i will definitely try it.  I was looking for a body that had anal physics and petal vagina for oldrim vibes so i tried the pasted mod, unfortunately when i tried to use the body with the bodyslide files and yes sorry shortly after i figured out that COAN was no longer a thing. After building the bodies they would only have Vagina physics but when i place the original mod lowest in mod order i get a body that has both vagina and anal physics but i cant use body morphs and its not listed in BS.

[degenernate]

36 minutes ago, elzee said:

hydrogensayshdt, the author of hdt SMP, PE, HH, has lost interest in TESV. She don't want to touch Skyrim LE and SE anymore.

Oh no! I was already desperate to get a VR version of SMP (even willing to get some money together to motivate Hydrogen), but this is terrible news for everyone! ?

 

Continuing Hydrogen's work will be impossible, as she is the only one with the source code. Were she to open the source (as she did with PE), I and many other people would be interested in keeping SMP alive. If she did not, every mod dependent on SMP would be in peril. We must prevent this!

 

elzee, are you in contact with Hydrogen? Is it possible to convince her to open SMP's source code?

[elzee]

1 hour ago, degenernate said:

Oh no! I was already desperate to get a VR version of SMP (even willing to get some money together to motivate Hydrogen), but this is terrible news for everyone! ?

 

Continuing Hydrogen's work will be impossible, as she is the only one with the source code. Were she to open the source (as she did with PE), I and many other people would be interested in keeping SMP alive. If she did not, every mod dependent on SMP would be in peril. We must prevent this!

 

elzee, are you in contact with Hydrogen? Is it possible to convince her to open SMP's source code?

I tried to subsidize her with a high price (about 2500 USD per week) to let her continue work on SMP and fix those bugs. But she refused. I'm afraid I will be blocked if I continue to try on this with my low speechcraft perks.

If others could try to contact her on 9dm. Asking for the source code.

[kazuya482]

Damn it....with the official release of Racemenu, a fully featured stable physics mod is the final thing SSE needs to be complete.

[Yinkle]

Sad to hear about HDT, my game has been CDT a lot and I narrowed it down to hdt smp. Removed that and no more crashes but no more fun physics

 

I dunno if it's my machine or my setup or just the mod being unstable but I can't play the game with it running alongside my fav mods. I have a 4th gen I7 cpu 16gb ram and a nvidia 670gtx. Maybe my graphics card isn't good enough?

[Farass]

9 hours ago, elzee said:

I have bad news here.

 

hydrogensayshdt, the author of hdt SMP, PE, HH, has lost interest in TESV. She don't want to touch Skyrim LE and SE anymore.

So SMP, PE, HH will no longer update. at least in the near future I guess.

As SMP is still unstable and has some major bugs (like makes Lurker T pose and CTD and conflict wtih mods handling menumode), I hope someone can continue hydrogensayshdt's work. 

That's bad news! The only thing left for me for a fully functioning Skyrim SE is the HDT-SMP . Well, just to be able to get collisions with other than between pc-npc would be great. 

[Illuminati]

7 hours ago, elzee said:

I tried to subsidize her with a high price (about 2500 USD per week) to let her continue work on SMP and fix those bugs. But she refused.

That's a lot of money. Hopefully she'll release the source code.