HDT SMP for SSE?

[cminnow]

13 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

I've used 5 or 6 versions of hdtsmp before this one and NEVER had an issue until 1.5.73, hardware or otherwise. I can assure you it's NOT a hardware issue.

Never underestimate the power of a developer to turn gold into shit. Especially from Bethesda nowadays. And we KNOW 1.5.73 works so there must be an underlying cause for the discrepancy. I'm not saying it IS a hardware issue. I think we've generally ruled out user error because of so many incidences. That leaves hardware or software issues and there are relatively few permutations of the software issues possible that I can test out to cause my 1.5.73 to FAIL. 

 

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

[cminnow]

 

On 4/5/2019 at 12:17 PM, BazsiHUN said:

I have a wierd problem. I have an i9, 64 gb ram, and rtx 2080, still, when i have HDT installed, sometimes fps goes to 10, and remains there. Loading previous save solve it for a bit,

but its annoying.

 

Any guess what cause this, or someone else have the same problem?

Can you confirm you got 1.5.73 working with SMP with no twitching issues?

[Gromilla]

1 hour ago, cminnow said:

I have a wierd problem. I have an i9, 64 gb ram, and rtx 2080, still, when i have HDT installed, sometimes fps goes to 10, and remains there. Loading previous save solve it for a bit,

but its annoying.

with such power in my game, even in trees, all branches would support physics. The whole world would be like one big jelly plate ...

[Vyxenne]

On 4/5/2019 at 11:17 AM, BazsiHUN said:

I have an i9, 64 gb ram, and rtx 2080

*seethes with slow-burning jealousy*

 

[Gromilla]

I train on COCOcats ..

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In the original, 176 bones in a skirt, I had to be cut into pieces I did not chase for quality, just for training ...

[cminnow]

1 hour ago, Gromilla said:

I train on COCOcats ..

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 In the original, 176 bones in a skirt, I had to be cut into pieces I did not chase for quality, just for training ...

Pretty amazing. I haven't seen many full SMP dresses...  if any?

[cminnow]

13 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

source? Stop spreading lies please....

Do you even read these comments? There's a video showing it in action.

 

30 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

Pretty amazing. I see clueless people commenting in threads

source of the dress?

[BazsiHUN]

2 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

*seethes with slow-burning jealousy*

 

But it looks like still not enough for HDT-SMP... ?

 

Sometimes the fps drops, but a quick save/load solve it. Annoying.

[Gh0sTG0]

3 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

despite what the trolls who insist that it works tell you

_{Great position man... There's my point of view, all another are trolls... Really great...}

PS what do you mean as "work"? That boobs jiggle on jumping? or there are some more hard testing?

[BazsiHUN]

4 hours ago, cminnow said:

 

Can you confirm you got 1.5.73 working with SMP with no twitching issues?

Yes, i use 1.5.73. Everything works fine, my only problem is the fps drops, what happens randomly.

[Gromilla]

1 hour ago, cminnow said:

Pretty amazing. I haven't seen many full SMP dresses...  if any?

I do not have ready-made exemplars yet (I think that they will not appear), while I am still learning how to do the physics of things and everything non-standard from scratch. Of course, you can port bones and weights from ready-made examples, but then in most cases you have to draw almost all the weights again .. Therefore, I don’t take it for clothes. @Yinkle specialist in this. Although, I have long wanted to make some beautiful dresses in complete physics .. if I live

[BazsiHUN]

16 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

The fact is that the 1.5.73 version of HDT SMP doesn't work for anyone despite what the trolls who insist that it works tell you.

My suggestion is to stick with 1.5.62 or earlier.

To be honest, i never used 1.5.62 hdt-smp, so i cant tell you what is the different.

 

For me 1.5.73 is working with a hair mod - i think it is jundao -, and with some clothes. I had a few ctd at loading, but after the fix, ctd's are gone. Now i have the annoying fps drops...

 

So when 1.5.62 dont have ctd's, and fps drops, then you have right, 1.5.73 is not that good.

 

Also i am lazy to go back to 1.5.62... 

[cminnow]

22 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

lol I'm just debunking someone who believes they are right over everyone else that has tried 1.5.73 version of HDTSMP and found it to be buggy

Here is me playing on a lovely beach killing pirates hiding in caves. It says 1.5.73 right on the menu. What problem do you see with the game?

[cminnow]

9 minutes ago, BazsiHUN said:

To be honest, i never used 1.5.62 hdt-smp, so i cant tell you what is the different.

 

For me 1.5.73 is working with a hair mod - i think it is jundao -, and with some clothes. I had a few ctd at loading, but after the fix, ctd's are gone. Now i have the annoying fps drops...

 

So when 1.5.62 dont have ctd's, and fps drops, then you have right, 1.5.73 is not that good.

 

Also i am lazy to go back to 1.5.62... 

Oh I do get FPS drops when I run into SMP clothes that aren't optimized. Maybe that is what you're seeing? I've optimized the capes and such to minimize unnecessary triangle vs triangle collisions as possible. My game used to crash when I had 50 people (why does every single god damn guard have to have a cape??) with SMP capes but now it runs it no problem.

[BazsiHUN]

3 minutes ago, cminnow said:

Oh I do get FPS drops when I run into SMP clothes that aren't optimized. Maybe that is what you're seeing? I've optimized the capes and such to minimize unnecessary triangle vs triangle collisions as possible. My game used to crash when I had 50 people with SMP capes but now it runs it no problem.

Yes, maybe. I dont know, how to optimize clothes, im not that pro. Im just a simple user... 

[Vortec]

2 hours ago, Gromilla said:

I train on COCOcats ..

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In the original, 176 bones in a skirt, I had to be cut into pieces I did not chase for quality, just for training ...

 Would you mind uploading that mesh and xml?. I have that Mod for SE and can't get the skirt too work.

[Gromilla]

4 hours ago, Vortec said:

 Would you mind uploading that mesh and xml?. I have that Mod for SE and can't get the skirt too work.

 Okay, and you buy me a new SSD so that I can continue to do this, yes? because when I open a file with 250 bones, my potato comp is trying to crawl under the baseboard from such a load .. or a wig from Dint that weighs 23 MB (only one nif!!)  and if I port it to SMP everyone wants to download it, yes? .. Yes. 

O, Cmn,  I just grumble oldly .. spring, spots on the sun, blood pressure .. 

not everything is redone to the end, different bodies are in different tops, the xml file must be configured for the beauty of the dynamics, but everything works.
This is a test version ..
will publish do not forget about me

 

Hope @Andreis forgive me

[Gromilla]

1 hour ago, BazsiHUN said:

Also i am lazy to go back to 1.5.62... 

This is the real trouble of our era. Spend an hour rolling back and play normally or lose a week waiting for an answer and looking for a solution ... hmm.

[Gromilla]

1 hour ago, cminnow said:

Here is me playing on a lovely beach killing pirates hiding in caves. It says 1.5.73 right on the menu. What problem do you see with the game?

Excellent physics setup, and if it works with the new version it’s just fine. And you are right to say about optimization, but the authors of modifications should do it, and some do not even know that there are error logs and stuff .. and after a couple of minutes a pair of incorrectly indicated bones in a skirt or a raincoat will score all the memory and .. oh ..! And what is the FPS fell ?? here damn physics all because of her ..

 

It seems that I have become grumbling and tedious, perhaps this is all the harmful effects of SMP physics on the exhausted body ... Be careful with it! Don't be like me .. khe khe ..

[jclyde6108]

1 hour ago, cminnow said:

Here is me playing on a lovely beach killing pirates hiding in caves. It says 1.5.73 right on the menu. What problem do you see with the game?

 

 

I don't doubt for a second that your game/setup is fine. Looks amazing. But in my game, even just the hair by itself would twitch and spaz. And all of us that have this problem (and can't roll back since mods like USSEP aren't available...there's a fun forum to go troll watching in lol) would love to figure out whats different so we can get ours to work too.  The sad thing is I have SMP and PE running on this same PC in Skyrim LE and its reasonably stable. The COCO bloom youth skirt included. In SSE even with collisions all but disabled the boob and butt bounce is fine with no twitching but hair or cloth or dangly bits just don't behave.

[rb888]

2 hours ago, BazsiHUN said:

Yes, i use 1.5.73. Everything works fine, my only problem is the fps drops, what happens randomly.

What graphic card you have how many gigs?

[rb888]

I'm about to updated my files I let you know how it goes. Going be pain put everything in folders lol

[Gromilla]

gentlemen and ladies, if the "troll" was about me, I am even proud of it.

But let's about physics. Specify which version of 1.5.73 you installed? From what date? last update dated 03 april. And do not install these files through the managers. Just remember which folder and what you need to copy and do so. you only need two files to update - from archives "hdtSSEFramework_1_5_73"  and "hdtSSEPhysics_1_5_73" you need  ONLY hdtSSEFramework.dll and hdtSSEPhysics.dll. NO MORE!  just copy and repace old ver in folder "Data\SKSE\Plugins". 

 

And yet: is the SKSE version correct? because physics does not depend on anything else.

[cminnow]

1 hour ago, rb888 said:

What graphic card you have how many gigs?

I wondered about the graphics card too. I also have a RTX 2080 and it's got 4 GB of ram. But I'm fairly certain SMP is completely CPU dependent. And either way, why would it only become apparent in 1.5.73? Unfortunately, I only see regular file changes https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/b0xro9/teardown_of_the_1573_update/....  I suppose it make sense that no one knows what other changes were made when other files were recompiled.

2 hours ago, jclyde6108 said:

I don't doubt for a second that your game/setup is fine. Looks amazing. But in my game, even just the hair by itself would twitch and spaz. And all of us that have this problem (and can't roll back since mods like USSEP aren't available...there's a fun forum to go troll watching in lol) would love to figure out whats different so we can get ours to work too.  The sad thing is I have SMP and PE running on this same PC in Skyrim LE and its reasonably stable. The COCO bloom youth skirt included. In SSE even with collisions all but disabled the boob and butt bounce is fine with no twitching but hair or cloth or dangly bits just don't behave.

Yup. Very strange that the body has no problems. Have you tried smp WITHOUT body physics but with just hair or something?

[Gromilla]

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