Devious Training

[spyder2200]

 

 

 

 

anyway - sure, its good to using correct names anywhere. i'm almost 100% sure that You have problem with StorageUtil library. One of your mods lock/latch (read-write conflict?) access to storage and my mod is in "waiting/queue" state

 I am using v33 of PapyrusUtil. I will try reinstalling it. Otherwise I don't know what to do.

 

 

it's not a problem with library it's a problem related with library usage (i think)

 

im planing to completely remove it - but in future, its hard to do.

 

 

Reinstalling it seems to have worked. The files in PayrusUtil tend to get overwritten and replaced a lot by other mods when using mod managers. By replacing them I was able to repair the debuffs and later reset the mod without any of the freezing and corruption I was having before. (I reset the mod because repairing the debuffs did not clear the neverending blindfold effect).

 

 

 

Sexlab has v32 bundled with it so if you installed it after papyrus that is why you had v32 when you thought you had v33.  So anyone else getting problems like this should reinstall papyrus or move it after sexlab in your left hand pane in MO

[Lostdreamer]

Hiya.

 

I'm having some issues with effects seemingly not being correctly applied/removed. No stamina regen etc. Having noticed Devious Training effects don't seem to be showing up in the magic effects list, they are currently the prime suspects.

 

I've reinstalled papyrus and Devious Training, both without obvious effect.

 

I've also tried some A-B-A testing.

 

• Step 0) go to the blacksmith and make a bunch of keys.
• A ) I check my magic effects menu. No de-buffs, which should be correct.(*) No wear and tear, no Devices equipped. Go for a quick sprint around breezehome, and manage two and half laps. Stamina regens ok afterwards.
• B ) Put on a bunch of Devices. Restricive corset, posture collar, gag, leg cuffs, pony boots. I should now have a raft of de-buffs. I check magic effects, nothing showing. I wait an hour and check again, nothing showing. I go for a quick sprint around breezehome, manage one lap with lots of falling down. Stamin does regen afterwards, but very slowly. So some effects clearly are being applied. These being Devious Devices, it is possible they are not from Devious Training. I don't know off the top of my head if things like the corset have stamina regen penalties as standard.
• A ) Remove all the Devices. Check magic effects, nothing showing again. Go for another run, two and half laps and ok stamina regen.

I've attached a log.

 

 

Do you have any suggestions as to where to look / what to do next?

 

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

(*) = Because this is a recently identified problem, I can't be sure there arn't outstanding corrupt effects I can't see. I've tried resetting using the function in Devious Training and 'dispelallspells', but I can't be certain. The stamina regen looks ok, but it's nothing to write home about.

Papyrus.0.log

[HyperonicX]

Got a bug to report.

 

I have gotten to level 6 in my corset, boots and whatnot, and a popup keeps saying that I have reached level 6 Lover], when I am already at that level. It just keeps randomly popping up.

 

Also, there are a few spelling and grammar mistakes I've noticed, particularly with the gag buff/debuff explanations.

 

These are what I've found:

 

You wrote: "You learnt how shout with gag. (Rate regen buff). ...Of course if you able to shout in gag..."
 

This should be "You have learned how to shout while wearing a gag. (Regeneration buff). Of course, if you were able to shout in a gag..."

 

 

You wrote: "Your gagged mouths make shout very difficult. (Rate regen debuff). ...Of course if you able to shout in gag..."

This should be "Your gagged mouth makes shouting very difficult. (Regen rate debuff). Of course, if you were able to shout in a gag..."

 

You wrote: "Your muffled mouth help you with sneaking. Sneak buff <mag>."

This should be "Your muffled mouth helps you with sneaking. (Sneak buff)."

 

 

You wrote: "Your gagged mouth make your communication almost unable. You can't negotiate good prices. Speak debuff <mag>."

 

This should be "Your gagged mouth makes communication almost impossible. You are unable to negotiate good prices. (Speech debuff)."

 

 

You wrote: "Your deformed jaw make your communication very difficult. Speech debuff <mag>."

 

This should be "Your deformed jaw makes communication very difficult. (Speech debuff)."

 

 

You wrote: "Your gagged mouths slowdown stamina regeneration. Stamina regen debuff <mag>."

 

This should be "Your gagged mouth is slowing down stamina regeneration. (Stamina regen debuff)."

 

 

Hope this helps!

[Doooom560]

I'm planning to use this with my next run of Skyrim. I did some testing with the blindfold. I found out that the Dark Fog effect from the latest Devious Devices isn't turned off when I remove a blindfold, while having this mod installed.

 

Is this a known problem? Is this a problem with Devious Devices and not Training?

[monsta88]

At the moment I stopped using this mod because I really don't like the continous clinking noise, it does not remind me of chains at all, so it continously ruins the immersiveness.

 

It would be nice to have an option to switch this noise off, or if you could change it to a better sound effect (like the one in Shout Like a Virgin).

 

Thanks for considering,

[Guest Flobalob]

At the moment I stopped using this mod because I really don't like the continous clinking noise, it does not remind me of chains at all, so it continously ruins the immersiveness.

 

It would be nice to have an option to switch this noise off, or if you could change it to a better sound effect (like the one in Shout Like a Virgin).

 

Thanks for considering,

 

There is an option to turn it off in MCM under cuffs or legcuffs options.

 

 

[Guest Flobalob]

When are you going to fix this mod? It is still freezing at random and causing savegame corruptions.

[skyrimfet]

When are you going to fix this mod? It is still freezing at random and causing savegame corruptions.

 

I can't - i still don't have Your logs (or?), don't have anything that could be helpful - aftere (realy) many hours in game i dont noticed problems that You reported. I'm slowly starting to belive that problem in your game is related with another mod - of course conflict is possible but i made all to exclude any potential problem.

[Seph64]

I started using this mod recently, and... do jaws really "crack" when a gag force the mouth open over an extended period of time? Because that sound when advancing a level sounds fairly painful.

[skyrimfet]

I started using this mod recently, and... do jaws really "crack" when a gag force the mouth open over an extended period of time? Because that sound when advancing a level sounds fairly painful.

 

You can check progress in MCM - if You want only final effect - visit MCM and set  speed: ultra and  then speak with people.

[804137081]

Hi,I am a Chinese player and my English is very poor.  

Your mod is amazing.I like it very much and I aslo follow your another mod.I want translate it into Chinese and share it to Chinese players. Hope to get your license!

[skyrimfet]

Hi,I am a Chinese player and my English is very poor.

Your mod is amazing.I like it very much and I aslo follow your another mod.I want translate it into Chinese and share it to Chinese players. Hope to get your license!

 

Hi, well - thx for Your message!

Maybe i will add translations files? shoud be better than working with fork ?

[804137081]

 

Hi,I am a Chinese player and my English is very poor.

Your mod is amazing.I like it very much and I aslo follow your another mod.I want translate it into Chinese and share it to Chinese players. Hope to get your license!

 

Hi, well - thx for Your message!

Maybe i will add translations files? shoud be better than working with fork ?

 

Of couse,that must be better.Thank you very much!

[Guest Flobalob]

 

When are you going to fix this mod? It is still freezing at random and causing savegame corruptions.

 

I can't - i still don't have Your logs (or?), don't have anything that could be helpful - aftere (realy) many hours in game i dont noticed problems that You reported. I'm slowly starting to belive that problem in your game is related with another mod - of course conflict is possible but i made all to exclude any potential problem.

 

 

Sorry, I don't have any logs for you. I have been playing your mod since the beginning

and I think your mod causes corruption by itself due to its code always updating and running but I don't know exactly how.

If there is conflict it may be with the game or the dlc as I have removed a lot of mods and started new games to find the problem was still there. Last time it happened, my character had just turned level 3 in boots and the freezing started and that's usually the end of my game,

I just restart and load the last save to get around it and play on.

I am still playing it and keeping an eye on it, if I discover the reason I will let you know.

[El_Duderino]

 

I can't - i still don't have Your logs (or?), don't have anything that could be helpful - aftere (realy) many hours in game i dont noticed problems that You reported. I'm slowly starting to belive that problem in your game is related with another mod - of course conflict is possible but i made all to exclude any potential problem.

 

Sorry, I don't have any logs for you. I have been playing your mod since the beginning

and I think your mod causes corruption by itself due to its code always updating and running but I don't know exactly how.

If there is conflict it may be with the game or the dlc as I have removed a lot of mods and started new games to find the problem was still there. Last time it happened, my character had just turned level 3 in boots and the freezing started and that's usually the end of my game,

I just restart and load the last save to get around it and play on.

I am still playing it and keeping an eye on it, if I discover the reason I will let you know.

 

Hi, that is not going to be very helpful to the mod author I'm afraid. More information is needed to determine what is really happening, which sadly means a more focused troubleshooting run on your end (which can be a real pain in the ass).

 

It sounds like your game does have a serious issue though if it starts falling apart like that. Have you already verified your load order with the hints and pointers in the Dangerous and Outdated Mods Masterlist?

 

Also, install ENBoost and Crash Fixes if you haven't already. They really improve the game's stability, particularly for a heavily modded one.

 

Enable Papyrus logging in Skyrim.ini for the duration of your bug hunts (turn it off for normal gameplay as it costs performance) -- crucial information for the mod author may be included here, and some pointers for you to find out if a mod in your load order is misbehaving and throwing out tons of errors as you play. Upload a log and your load order here after a bit of playing. Note that if you're using Mod Organizer, you have to change the INIs in MO's profile folder, not the ones in your Skyrim user folder.

[Seph64]

 

I started using this mod recently, and... do jaws really "crack" when a gag force the mouth open over an extended period of time? Because that sound when advancing a level sounds fairly painful.

 

You can check progress in MCM - if You want only final effect - visit MCM and set  speed: ultra and  then speak with people.

 

To be honest, I am not that disturbed, it was just surprising that the level indication sounds like a woman whose jaw just broke.

 

Although, what I have trouble with is that the blindfold effect from this mod interferes with the blindfold effect from DDI. Not only that, you can move while blindfolded, while there is an option for that in DDI, it's not the default. Is there way to just use DDI's functionality instead?

[Guest Flobalob]

 

 

I can't - i still don't have Your logs (or?), don't have anything that could be helpful - aftere (realy) many hours in game i dont noticed problems that You reported. I'm slowly starting to belive that problem in your game is related with another mod - of course conflict is possible but i made all to exclude any potential problem.

 

Sorry, I don't have any logs for you. I have been playing your mod since the beginning

and I think your mod causes corruption by itself due to its code always updating and running but I don't know exactly how.

If there is conflict it may be with the game or the dlc as I have removed a lot of mods and started new games to find the problem was still there. Last time it happened, my character had just turned level 3 in boots and the freezing started and that's usually the end of my game,

I just restart and load the last save to get around it and play on.

I am still playing it and keeping an eye on it, if I discover the reason I will let you know.

 

Hi, that is not going to be very helpful to the mod author I'm afraid. More information is needed to determine what is really happening, which sadly means a more focused troubleshooting run on your end (which can be a real pain in the ass).

 

It sounds like your game does have a serious issue though if it starts falling apart like that. Have you already verified your load order with the hints and pointers in the Dangerous and Outdated Mods Masterlist?

 

Also, install ENBoost and Crash Fixes if you haven't already. They really improve the game's stability, particularly for a heavily modded one.

 

Enable Papyrus logging in Skyrim.ini for the duration of your bug hunts (turn it off for normal gameplay as it costs performance) -- crucial information for the mod author may be included here, and some pointers for you to find out if a mod in your load order is misbehaving and throwing out tons of errors as you play. Upload a log and your load order here after a bit of playing. Note that if you're using Mod Organizer, you have to change the INIs in MO's profile folder, not the ones in your Skyrim user folder.

 

Thanks for the tips dude, but I am only having trouble with this one mod at the moment. I am working

on the possibility that there may be conflict with one or more of SL's female masturbation animations

now, just need a bit more time to tell.

 

[Guest Flobalob]

Thanks for the tips dude, but I am only having trouble with this one mod at the moment. I am working

on the possibility that there may be conflict with one or more of SL's female masturbation animations

now, just need a bit more time to tell.

 

UPDATE:  The mod worked properly from start to finish with all of SL'S masturbation animations disabled.

When re-enabled and Devious Training was reset, the problem came back after a while but because of the time it

took for it to happen, it may just be coincidental.

Normally when I get mod conflicts, they are in the form of crashes, errors etc. but this mod doesn't do that, It just suddenly stops responding,

causing lag and then savegame corruptions as a result. Doesn't anyone else get this?

[Krazyone]

Request... Additional training degradation levels

 

- Extreme = 20 days per level to lose 1 level of effect

- Hardcore = 40 days per level to lose 1 level of effect

 

Reason... all effects are lost by the time a trap springs when my devious devices setting decide to spring a trap, which are set to spring at a low rate. Usually springing every 5 - 7 days... I spent hundreds of hours getting all the setting just right, and there are a lot of settings in Deviously Cursed Loot...

 

By the time a trap springs for the right body part, the devious training effect is gone, along with all the rest of the other effects.

 

 

 

Possible hard setting additions... unable to walk when feet start getting out of shape, forcing you to wear the right shoes. Your walk pain, and inability to walk increasing with levels.

 

Level 1 = feet okay

Level 2 = stumble every 400 feet

Level 3 = stumble every 200 feet

Level 4 = stumble every 50 feet

Level 5 = unable to walk in bare feet, crawling on all fours...

 

The stumble would be a fall over animation, like when drunk with realistic needs and diseases...

 

Nexus crawl mod... http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33097/?

 

 

Just some ideas... if you don't like them, then just ignore this post...

 

 

 

[Guest Flobalob]

Great ideas, I second that.

 

Further to my issue with lag and savegame corruption when this mod suddenly stops working, I think I'm on the right track now

and that there is conflict with some of the female masturbation animations in Sexlab. Disabling these animations in MCM definitely

helps as I have yet to encounter the problem when they are disabled.

 

 

Edit: Just discovered another symptom. If you attempt to leave the game when this problem is happening by quitting and returning to the main menu screen, all the menu options are gone, there is nothing there. If that's not a gamebreaker I don't know what is.

[Seph64]

I do not suppose OP could have it print out the state of progress of your current training on screen by pressing a button, could it? You know how like pressing 'n' prints out the state of you arousal level if you have Sexlab Arousal installed. 

 

I find going in to the mod config menu for this mod breaks my immersion a bit.

[DW2016SS]

I am trying to make a little UNP patch for your mod.

 

But i realize that my guess was wrong.

 

This patch has fixed emily1673`s mod.But does`t work on your mod.

 

I am sure that it worked on barefoot(no-htd).So there something wrong with HDT system i guess.

 

I am read your scripts about speed now.But it will spead a lot of time on it.I guess the issue about speed is cause by full set of Devious Device.

 

Would you please do me a favour?

 

Buy the way,I made a mistake.the unp foot made by idontkn0w123.but i copyied "Pantyhose".

DT barefoot.zip

[Guest Flobalob]

Finally got to the bottom of the lag/savegame corruption issues I was having with this mod since I installed it.

It just comes down to having too many mods installed, too many animations/processes running, especially the Sexlab animations and

the mods that call on them. The creatures pack has 500 animations alone so that went first.

A huge cull is under way now , which should fix it once and for all. 

[skyrimfet]

Finally got to the bottom of the lag/savegame corruption issues I was having with this mod since I installed it.

It just comes down to having too many mods installed, too many animations/processes running, especially the Sexlab animations and

the mods that call on them. The creatures pack has 500 animations alone so that went first.

A huge cull is under way now , which should fix it once and for all. 

 

so - it was my fault?

[Guest Flobalob]

 

Finally got to the bottom of the lag/savegame corruption issues I was having with this mod since I installed it.

It just comes down to having too many mods installed, too many animations/processes running, especially the Sexlab animations and

the mods that call on them. The creatures pack has 500 animations alone so that went first.

A huge cull is under way now , which should fix it once and for all. 

 

so - it was my fault?

 

 

Yes. Your mod was the one that broke the limit.