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[panthercom]

 

 

I did see a while back some serious discussion on the DDI page about the vibration effects because of how irksome it is for any magic using character.  I don't think I saw any serious discussion of ever doing away with the vibration effect.  If it does get removed it probably will have to be from designing  a device that does not include the feature in Virgin itself.

 

That the change doesn't have any effect is a point i'd mention, though. That's an important point worth to remember them about, even if it's already mentioned. For me, while using some magic too, it's the cost to stay a virgin... and one of the many reasons, i disappoint Nocturnal often.

Actually i even abuse it: my breasts grow from MME and slow me down after sleeping or stuff, but vibrating nipple piercings force milk dribbling.

So i cast something while running to get my speed back.

 

For the wolves bite horses problem: After some thinking i was sure it was this funny little mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19069/?

But sadly, it only allows fighting, not shouting. On the other hand, it solves this problem in his own kind... which might be considered OP, though. I'm still sure i was shouting while riding a broomstick, but i really don't know if it worked with normal horses and if it was an earlier version of this mod, or another (additional) mod, or even a totally unintended "conflict" between this and another mod.

 

 

 I think a horse with explosive diarrhea wouldn't have any problems with wolves nipping at it's heels.

Equine Laxatives of Skyrim, coming to the Nexus soon...

 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder if anyone would care if they lost the feature and I just removed the effect from all existing anal devices? Maybe leave it on one of the 3... the Bell Chain since it's most hardcore with the sounds and jiggling around? If I were to remove from existing Anal devices, which would be your first choice?

 

 

As a caster-type too, I'd like it if the skeleton key was the one to not have this magic/vibration effect.  It's still a challenge to earn the key (my character sheathes her bound sword whenever a vibration animation is played), but it's also the best one to wear long-term for it's lock-picking utility.

 

Edit:  While I'm at it. Could you take off the armor rating for the skeleton key?  This also acts as a type of debuff for mages, limiting their protection spells.

 

 

Armor rating removed for next release. Did so on the Anal Torch too.

 

Only the enchantment (for lock picking) is a challenge to get for the Skeleton Key. You can otherwise use it anytime. So would you be suggesting that the effect only come off upon enchantment, or all the time?

 

I'm thinking I will just remove the effect from both Torch and Skel Key (regardless of enchant), and leave it only on the Bell Chain.

 

 

EDIT: but after just reading Nazzzgul666's post, I think there's going to be people disappointed if I do lol

 

Which takes me back to adding a new anal device without the effect instead of messing with the existing. How about a Soul Gem up your ass? Call it Caster's Delight or something. Eventually figure out some "enchant" to earn for it too.

 

 

From what Ive seen of the DD items there have been two effects one where the vibrations are set randomly which the MCM does control and the other is the spell cast, its the spell cast that I would like to see removed but if its not optional then I noticed that most the items seem to come from Heretical Resources which would mean you have a Vaginal Bell at your disposal, so if you kept the anal bell with no vibrations but added the vaginal bell with vibration, people could configure their character to have the bell noise one way or the other.

 

This mod is using the vaginal plug and chain already. Just with no bell on it. It's called Virgin Chastity Chain. I've opted to treat it as a chastity device instead of vaginal plug. Thus can't now also have a vaginal plug with bell.

 

I won't nerf existing things when there's any sign of people being unhappy. So the 3 existing Anal devices will be staying as is.

 

But adding a new Anal device with no vibration effect when casting, is something I will do. Unless someone comes up with a better and do-able idea, it's going to be the "Virgin Anal Soul Gem"

 

But as a solution to this, maybe you could add a 1-2 seconds stun to the thief after spanking? Or playing something like the bleedout animation for the thief? Many animations look bad with weapons equipped, and changing it every time before spanking... i think there are better ways for our perfect virgin.

 

I  will probably add a calm spell.

[Drek71]

 

This mod is using the vaginal plug and chain already. Just with no bell on it. It's called Virgin Chastity Chain. I've opted to treat it as a chastity device instead of vaginal plug. Thus can't now also have a vaginal plug with bell.

 

I won't nerf existing things when there's any sign of people being unhappy. So the 3 existing Anal devices will be staying as is.

 

But adding a new Anal device with no vibration effect when casting, is something I will do. Unless someone comes up with a better and do-able idea, it's going to be the "Virgin Anal Soul Gem"

 

Well its your mod but soul gems just don't have the jingle to them or visual appeal the chains have.

[mercplatypus]

 

 

I don't hardly cast magic so I need this kind of feedback to even realize it's a big deal for casters.

 

One thing already done that came from caster feedback is the MCM option where you can use shouts to reduce arousal, this way making managing arousal sane. And this arousal is mostly a caster thing and coming from the exact same effect I think. Back then when I added that feature, just removing the effect from the anal devices was not discussed/considered.

 

I wonder if anyone would care if they lost the feature and I just removed the effect from all existing anal devices? Maybe leave it on one of the 3... the Bell Chain since it's most hardcore with the sounds and jiggling around? If I were to remove from existing Anal devices, which would be your first choice?

 

I know you added the shout reducing arousal mechanic from feedback.  It was my complaining that first brought it to your attention

 

On a more constructive note the primary "debuffs" that come from magic use with DDI vibration effects are

1. Arousal gain reducing XP gain.  Not only do we have shout reducing arousal, the most recent version of aroused has a way to turn the XP effect off completely.  As such this is a non issue for everyone at this point.

 

2.  Randomly fondling yourself every 7 steps with high arousal interacting with other DDI related mods such as cursed loot and DDI itself.  Most of these have a way to turn them off such as in cursed loot.  Disabling hardcore effects stops the worst of it from DDI in my experience.  The sheathing of bound weapons comes directly from this issue as you put away weapons when you need your suddenly very public alone time.

 

3.  The sound can be a bit irritating from time to time.  This is most vexing when you have a single spell such as fast healing go off and DDI decides to keep vibrating until you are at max arousal.  Doesn't happen often, somewhat adjustable in DDI but cannot be done away with in MCM.  Not really a debuff as much as something annoying.

 

On the subject of the armor rating on the skeleton key and torch interfering with mages that comes or the Mage Armor perk in alteration.  Whenever you are wearing no armor (clothing is fine) it will double or triple your armor rating from flesh spells.  This is a bit of a tricky one honestly as it is affected by most every magic overhaul I have ever used.  The one I use right now, Awakened Magica, actually ignores the torch and key so it hadn't been an issue for me.  It would definitely be a huge problem for anyone who did have interference though.

 

Considering the current comments it looks like we have a few people who want the effect gone, a few who don't want to see it touched, and a few who are somewhere in between.  In my humble opinion I do believe that adding in new devices that don't have the effect is a good one.  I would also  state that debuffs are not the worst potential thing to put up with.  Having a lit torch makes sneaking more difficult as far as I know.  Having a lit torch rammed up your ass could be considered a debuff for sneaky characters.  I assume we have all managed to work around it though.

 

I think it might be worth considering shifting some of the effects around a bit to suit a purpose.  If I recall you are looking into new punishments for not reporting in on time, correct?  Imagine the vibration occurring whenever you started sneaking or using power attacks as well as spellcasting as an additional punishment from Nocturnal for your disobedience.  Its one idea, but maybe it could lead to interesting places.

[panthercom]

 I toggled the anal torch off for a very selfish reason; the light made my character look like shit.

 I think a candle would be much nicer, with just enough light to make your bottom glow.

 

 I've never liked the vibrator mechanics for Devious Devices; having your character sheath her

weapon and fondle herself while she's being attacked is just aggravating, to put it politely. I

thought I would hate the chains, but they're actually kind of soothing, like you walked into a

new age bookstore or something. They look pretty sexy too I really like the new chain

harness, and black or rusty textures are what I prefer.

 

 I've toggled off interactions with Cassia, because they made no sense to me. She shows

up with her holes plugged up, and Sexlab insists on treating my female character like a male

if I agree to service her, so I'm left humping her with no cock, and the chastity devices

should be blocking intercourse anyhow. I have strapons toggled off, because every female

in my game is a futa, except for my character. It might make more sense if I could beat her,

or something; the whole 'pain is pleasure' thing. It would be kind of funny to be able to roast

her with a flame spell too, or zap her with a shock spell and have her go off. I know...  a flaming

whip!

 

 The mod works pretty well with regular game play. I have had an issue where my eyebrows

disappear after an animation triggered by this mod. Once was after the spit roast, the other

was after sex with the wandering Dibella followers. I have never had this happen before, and

I have had many hundreds of hours with Sexlab running. I can only fix the problem by going to

an earlier save.

 

 I like what you are doing, overall, and I'm eager to see what the future holds. Nice work

[VirginMarie]

 I toggled the anal torch off for a very selfish reason; the light made my character look like shit.

 I think a candle would be much nicer, with just enough light to make your bottom glow.

The torch is an asset from another mod that I've used. I don't have the skill set to make a candle version. Not seen one around to use either.

 

 I've never liked the vibrator mechanics for Devious Devices; having your character sheath her

weapon and fondle herself while she's being attacked is just aggravating, to put it politely. I

thought I would hate the chains, but they're actually kind of soothing, like you walked into a

new age bookstore or something. They look pretty sexy too I really like the new chain

harness, and black or rusty textures are what I prefer.

Maybe I will do a Casters Anal Bell Chain that's just a copy of the current one but without the vibration effect, then also an Anal Soul Gem without, so casters then have 2 choices. 

 

 I've toggled off interactions with Cassia, because they made no sense to me. She shows

up with her holes plugged up, and Sexlab insists on treating my female character like a male

if I agree to service her, so I'm left humping her with no cock, and the chastity devices

should be blocking intercourse anyhow. I have strapons toggled off, because every female

in my game is a futa, except for my character. It might make more sense if I could beat her,

or something; the whole 'pain is pleasure' thing. It would be kind of funny to be able to roast

her with a flame spell too, or zap her with a shock spell and have her go off. I know...  a flaming

whip!

I have plans to eventually add variety to Cassia and the Erotic Arts. Looking for ideas but one that's already on my list is an option where Cassia has grown accustomed to pain is pleasure and asks to be whipped

 

 The mod works pretty well with regular game play. I have had an issue where my eyebrows

disappear after an animation triggered by this mod. Once was after the spit roast, the other

was after sex with the wandering Dibella followers. I have never had this happen before, and

I have had many hundreds of hours with Sexlab running. I can only fix the problem by going to

an earlier save.

Spit does not use sexlab. Erotic Arts does. So they don't have much in common. I can't imagine what it could be. Does not sound like you can re-create? For example if you go back to the previous save and do the spit again, does it reoccur?

 

 I like what you are doing, overall, and I'm eager to see what the future holds. Nice work

 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

I don't hardly cast magic so I need this kind of feedback to even realize it's a big deal for casters.

 

One thing already done that came from caster feedback is the MCM option where you can use shouts to reduce arousal, this way making managing arousal sane. And this arousal is mostly a caster thing and coming from the exact same effect I think. Back then when I added that feature, just removing the effect from the anal devices was not discussed/considered.

 

I wonder if anyone would care if they lost the feature and I just removed the effect from all existing anal devices? Maybe leave it on one of the 3... the Bell Chain since it's most hardcore with the sounds and jiggling around? If I were to remove from existing Anal devices, which would be your first choice?

 

I know you added the shout reducing arousal mechanic from feedback.  It was my complaining that first brought it to your attention

Oh ya it was you lol !

 

On a more constructive note the primary "debuffs" that come from magic use with DDI vibration effects are

1. Arousal gain reducing XP gain.  Not only do we have shout reducing arousal, the most recent version of aroused has a way to turn the XP effect off completely.  As such this is a non issue for everyone at this point.

 

2.  Randomly fondling yourself every 7 steps with high arousal interacting with other DDI related mods such as cursed loot and DDI itself.  Most of these have a way to turn them off such as in cursed loot.  Disabling hardcore effects stops the worst of it from DDI in my experience.  The sheathing of bound weapons comes directly from this issue as you put away weapons when you need your suddenly very public alone time.

 

3.  The sound can be a bit irritating from time to time.  This is most vexing when you have a single spell such as fast healing go off and DDI decides to keep vibrating until you are at max arousal.  Doesn't happen often, somewhat adjustable in DDI but cannot be done away with in MCM.  Not really a debuff as much as something annoying.

Sound can be turned off or down in volume in DD MCM

 

On the subject of the armor rating on the skeleton key and torch interfering with mages that comes or the Mage Armor perk in alteration.  Whenever you are wearing no armor (clothing is fine) it will double or triple your armor rating from flesh spells.  This is a bit of a tricky one honestly as it is affected by most every magic overhaul I have ever used.  The one I use right now, Awakened Magica, actually ignores the torch and key so it hadn't been an issue for me.  It would definitely be a huge problem for anyone who did have interference though.

 

Considering the current comments it looks like we have a few people who want the effect gone, a few who don't want to see it touched, and a few who are somewhere in between.  In my humble opinion I do believe that adding in new devices that don't have the effect is a good one.  I would also  state that debuffs are not the worst potential thing to put up with.  Having a lit torch makes sneaking more difficult as far as I know.  Having a lit torch rammed up your ass could be considered a debuff for sneaky characters.  I assume we have all managed to work around it though.

 

I think it might be worth considering shifting some of the effects around a bit to suit a purpose.  If I recall you are looking into new punishments for not reporting in on time, correct?  Imagine the vibration occurring whenever you started sneaking or using power attacks as well as spellcasting as an additional punishment from Nocturnal for your disobedience.  Its one idea, but maybe it could lead to interesting places.

The new "failed to report in" is a punishing color, similar to the one for the DA feature, but the damage increases over time. You need to report in to get it removed. I think it's enough without more effects but we shall see.Its in the next release.

 

My focus on this has been more about removing the interruption the old failed to report in can create, like being hauled out of a CD cage, or out of POP Prison. This new approach leaves reporting in voluntary, but you are "encouraged".

 

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 The mod works pretty well with regular game play. I have had an issue where my eyebrows

disappear after an animation triggered by this mod. Once was after the spit roast, ...

You lost your eyebrows after burning on a spitroast? Sounds reasonable   *SCNR*

 

I'm not sure if this placement is intended? 

 

And i'm not sure about candles, but this mod has an anal lantern, beside some other stuff: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1785-immersive-plugs/

They are not DD, you'd need to do that yourself, i don't know how much work that would be, but it offers several options.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 The mod works pretty well with regular game play. I have had an issue where my eyebrows

disappear after an animation triggered by this mod. Once was after the spit roast, ...

You lost your eyebrows after burning on a spitroast? Sounds reasonable   *SCNR*

 

I'm not sure if this placement is intended? deepwood.jpg

 

And i'm not sure about candles, but this mod has an anal lantern, beside some other stuff: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1785-immersive-plugs/

They are not DD, you'd need to do that yourself, i don't know how much work that would be, but it offers several options.

 

 

Placement is totally intended. Beautiful spot. What do you think is wrong with it?

 

Skeleton key is from that mod. No asset I've used has been already DD. Yes I could do the lantern. 

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

 

 The mod works pretty well with regular game play. I have had an issue where my eyebrows

disappear after an animation triggered by this mod. Once was after the spit roast, ...

You lost your eyebrows after burning on a spitroast? Sounds reasonable   *SCNR*

 

I'm not sure if this placement is intended? deepwood.jpg

 

And i'm not sure about candles, but this mod has an anal lantern, beside some other stuff: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1785-immersive-plugs/

They are not DD, you'd need to do that yourself, i don't know how much work that would be, but it offers several options.

 

 

Placement is totally intended. Beautiful spot. What do you think is wrong with it?

 

Skeleton key is from that mod. No asset I've used has been already DD. Yes I could do the lantern. 

 

I just wasn't sure, all other locations i found so far were at the end of a waterfall, and this is very hard to reach without walking on water and even with it not exactly easy because of the stream. Plus i couldn't find an easy way to go there, i fought my way through deepwood redoubt and had to use the whirlwind shout. I'm not used to have so many troubles to reach a waterfall, but maybe i was just blind... at the beginning i thought it's a second case of "map marker is weird", i had this once after upgrading but couldn't reproduce it.

Don't get me wrong, i love that you showed me this place. It was just harder than expected.

 

Another idea for the horse problem: what about a spell that gives a target a long time aura freezing enemies? I don't think it would be OP, but maybe it is when you use followers. Don't know if a spell can work on horses only.

Or the icycle from this mod as a plug, instead of a spell: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2510-crude-anal-toys/ but then you'd need a serious disadvantage to prevent somebody (me ) using it all the time. Maybe forbid running or reducing speed? Would make sense in some way, you are so cold that you can't move fast, but your enemies will freeze.

Still not perfect, you'd need to switch plugs before/after mounting the horse... but an intresting feature imho.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

 The mod works pretty well with regular game play. I have had an issue where my eyebrows

disappear after an animation triggered by this mod. Once was after the spit roast, ...

You lost your eyebrows after burning on a spitroast? Sounds reasonable   *SCNR*

 

I'm not sure if this placement is intended? deepwood.jpg

 

And i'm not sure about candles, but this mod has an anal lantern, beside some other stuff: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1785-immersive-plugs/

They are not DD, you'd need to do that yourself, i don't know how much work that would be, but it offers several options.

 

 

Placement is totally intended. Beautiful spot. What do you think is wrong with it?

 

Skeleton key is from that mod. No asset I've used has been already DD. Yes I could do the lantern. 

 

I just wasn't sure, all other locations i found so far were at the end of a waterfall, you will find more that are not like that. Variety is the spice of life  and this is very hard to reach without walking on water no not true you can swim there and trigger  and even with it not exactly easy because of the stream. Plus i couldn't find an easy way to go there that's the idea , i fought my way through deepwood redoubt yes you need to do that, although there's a way to climb there without. and you can climb either way with no whirlwind and had to use the whirlwind shout. I'm not used to have so many troubles to reach a waterfall, but maybe i was just blind... at the beginning i thought it's a second case of "map marker is weird", i had this once after upgrading but couldn't reproduce it.

Don't get me wrong, i love that you showed me this place. It was just harder than expected.

hehe my objective to make that one an interesting challenge was achieved

 

Another idea for the horse problem: what about a spell that gives a target a long time aura freezing enemies? I don't think it would be OP, but maybe it is when you use followers. Don't know if a spell can work on horses only.

Or the icycle from this mod as a plug, instead of a spell: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2510-crude-anal-toys/ but then you'd need a serious disadvantage to prevent somebody (me ) using it all the time. Maybe forbid running or reducing speed? Would make sense in some way, you are so cold that you can't move fast, but your enemies will freeze.

Still not perfect, you'd need to switch plugs before/after mounting the horse... but an intresting feature imho.

I might find a way that if your horse is being nipped at, a calm spell goes off on them. And you'd earn this ability for your horse in some way. I don't know of a way yet. future low priority thing

 

[spadgas]

How do I post a piccy on this? There's a lovely waterfall just north of Karthwasten right by Harmugsthal.I'd have posted a screenshot  of me riding Frost, but it doesn't seem to want to. If by some miracle you haven't already got this, could it be called Hyliria's waterfall please, as that's my skyrim name. spadgas is not a pretty name for a waterfall

 

Hugs

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

I might find a way that if your horse is being nipped at, a calm spell goes off on them. And you'd earn this ability for your horse in some way. I don't know of a way yet. future low priority thing

While doing the Azura quest, i was thinking a bit. In the dungeon for the star, and some other places like sunken ships etc the permanent water walking ability is a disadvantage. The probably easy solution would be to disable it via MCM, but then i thought.. 

What if you attach that to an item instead of the player (i'd think the ankle chains would fit), and maybe make several versions of other items as well, like the skeleton key? Maybe for some or one of them the player can even chose if (s)he wants a mage/thief/warrior enchantment, and get some progress. I'd like that very much, and the mage players would probably be satisfied as well.

 

For example:

spanking x thieves: enchanted wrist device, reduces damage when blocking OR destruction spells make (5% ?) more damage. Maybe even several stages, 10 thieves = 5%, 20 = 10%.

I know you don't want to make much things that other mods already do, but i like progress and rewards and it's not that easy to find stuff nobody else did or used before. At least the destruction ->more damage isn't avaivable in vanilla as an enchantment, not sure if there is a vanilla item for that. I've seen it, but i can't remember if it was by a mod or which one.

 

The probably easiest solution for the horse would be, to give the player a special horse. Not sure what others think about that, though.

 

 

How do I post a piccy on this? There's a lovely waterfall just north of Karthwasten right by Harmugsthal.I'd have posted a screenshot  of me riding Frost, but it doesn't seem to want to. If by some miracle you haven't already got this, could it be called Hyliria's waterfall please, as that's my skyrim name. spadgas is not a pretty name for a waterfall

 

Hugs

 

If you use default windows tools, you need to convert the picture from bitmap to jpg, just right click->work*/open in paint->save as... .jpg or .jpeg

Then you can upload it here, don't forget to click at "add to post".

 

work* no clue how that option is called in english, it's something like work in german. 

 

 

[VirginMarie]

How do I post a piccy on this? There's a lovely waterfall just north of Karthwasten right by Harmugsthal.I'd have posted a screenshot  of me riding Frost, but it doesn't seem to want to. If by some miracle you haven't already got this, could it be called Hyliria's waterfall please, as that's my skyrim name. spadgas is not a pretty name for a waterfall

 

Hugs

 

Its likely not letting you post cause of format. I have saved as png or jpg to post here. Oh and I see Nazzzgul666 already said this.

 

Try that. but if you can't I can probably find the location without. Will let you know if I can't.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

I might find a way that if your horse is being nipped at, a calm spell goes off on them. And you'd earn this ability for your horse in some way. I don't know of a way yet. future low priority thing

While doing the Azura quest, i was thinking a bit. In the dungeon for the star, and some other places like sunken ships etc the permanent water walking ability is a disadvantage. It's not permanent, it lasts for 6hrs The probably easy solution would be to disable it via MCM, but then i thought.. 

What if you attach that to an item instead of the player (i'd think the ankle chains would fit), that does not solve your water walking problem if you are in virgin training and therefore cannot take them off  and maybe make several versions of other items as well, like the skeleton key? Maybe for some or one of them the player can even chose if (s)he wants a mage/thief/warrior enchantment, and get some progress. I'd like that very much, and the mage players would probably be satisfied as well.  Well now you're just getting crazy on how many items I'd have to deal with. But I did already say I'm thinking of having two versions of the Bell Chain... one being without vibration effect

 

 

For example:

spanking x thieves: enchanted wrist device, reduces damage when blocking OR destruction spells make (5% ?) more damage. Maybe even several stages, 10 thieves = 5%, 20 = 10%.

I know you don't want to make much things that other mods already do, but i like progress and rewards and it's not that easy to find stuff nobody else did or used before. At least the destruction ->more damage isn't avaivable in vanilla as an enchantment, not sure if there is a vanilla item for that. I've seen it, but i can't remember if it was by a mod or which one.

 

If I could dynamically control this stuff through script, and have just one item, maybe... but there's limitations, like keywords wont work that way so rules it out for add/remove vibration effect using just one item.

 

The probably easiest solution for the horse would be, to give the player a special horse. Not sure what others think about that, though.

I kinda doubt that would be the easiest approach

 

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

 

 

I might find a way that if your horse is being nipped at, a calm spell goes off on them. And you'd earn this ability for your horse in some way. I don't know of a way yet. future low priority thing

While doing the Azura quest, i was thinking a bit. In the dungeon for the star, and some other places like sunken ships etc the permanent water walking ability is a disadvantage. It's not permanent, it lasts for 6hrs 

Oh, somehow i missed the effect in my menu, it's very seldom i have less then 25-30 buffs/debuffs... i thought you changed it to permanent. But it's 6 hours real time, maybe you could change it to, don't know, 24-48 hours game time instead? Then i could just sleep it away or doing other stuff some time (but less than 6 hours ), that was my thought about virgin training. Or switch items via MCM if necessary.

 

If I could dynamically control this stuff through script, and have just one item, maybe... but there's limitations, like keywords wont work that way so rules it out for add/remove vibration effect using just one item.

Hmmm Beeing female has a function to add random effects to babies ( equibable items), maybe a look at that would help. But i'm not sure if that's a solution at all for you, i think we don't want totally random effects. If you can make them less random that might do it, though.

 

 

 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

 

I might find a way that if your horse is being nipped at, a calm spell goes off on them. And you'd earn this ability for your horse in some way. I don't know of a way yet. future low priority thing

While doing the Azura quest, i was thinking a bit. In the dungeon for the star, and some other places like sunken ships etc the permanent water walking ability is a disadvantage. It's not permanent, it lasts for 6hrs 

Oh, somehow i missed the effect in my menu, it's very seldom i have less then 25-30 buffs/debuffs... i thought you changed it to permanent. But it's 6 hours real time, maybe you could change it to, don't know, 24-48 hours game time instead? Then i could just sleep it away or doing other stuff some time (but less than 6 hours ), that was my thought about virgin training. Or switch items via MCM if necessary.

 

​Effects done in menu, that way don't have option of game time. I don't think this badly needs to change

 

If I could dynamically control this stuff through script, and have just one item, maybe... but there's limitations, like keywords wont work that way so rules it out for add/remove vibration effect using just one item.

Hmmm Beeing female has a function to add random effects to babies ( equibable items), maybe a look at that would help. But i'm not sure if that's a solution at all for you, i think we don't want totally random effects. If you can make them less random that might do it, though.

 

I know how to do it, just not with keywords. There's not going to be a way with keywords. Hence can't for vibrations

 

 

 

[spadgas]

You have no idea how many fingies I have crossed right now.

I think this has attached

 

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

 

 

​Effects done in menu, that way don't have option of game time. I don't think this badly needs to change

 

If I could dynamically control this stuff through script, and have just one item, maybe... but there's limitations, like keywords wont work that way so rules it out for add/remove vibration effect using just one item.

Hmmm Beeing female has a function to add random effects to babies ( equibable items), maybe a look at that would help. But i'm not sure if that's a solution at all for you, i think we don't want totally random effects. If you can make them less random that might do it, though.

 

I know how to do it, just not with keywords. There's not going to be a way with keywords. Hence can't for vibrations

 

I thought it's a simple switch in CK, if not... i guess nobody else is desperatly searching for my waterfall and has the effect all the time, so you're probably right. But don't tell me! 

 

Hm, i think i really have to try some things with CK and scripting maybe, at least to make more useful suggestions^^

[tj3n123]

Hi, I just downloaded the mod and try it, but i got stuck right at the start....after nocturnal bound char on the cage and shove the torch in, nothing happen anymore, it just stuck there, press space or hold also not working, what's wrong?

 

Also i cant change the space button to others during that scene then i'm not sure if it's working or not

 

*edit: after i restart then it change from cage to chains bound but still stuck after the first chat with nocturnal...cant understand

[VirginMarie]

Hi, I just downloaded the mod and try it, but i got stuck right at the start....after nocturnal bound char on the cage and shove the torch in, nothing happen anymore, it just stuck there, press space or hold also not working, what's wrong?

 

Also i cant change the space button to others during that scene then i'm not sure if it's working or not

 

*edit: after i restart then it change from cage to chains bound but still stuck after the first chat with nocturnal...cant understand

 

See Troubleshooting #3. This is almost certainly a Zaz Animations not installed correctly problem. The troubleshooting item there will help you.

You have no idea how many fingies I have crossed right now.

 

I think this has attached

 

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You can't imagine how wet I got installing this. It's now in the next release.

 

The impassioned Harmugsthal Hyliria waterfall beckons me

[tj3n123]

 

Hi, I just downloaded the mod and try it, but i got stuck right at the start....after nocturnal bound char on the cage and shove the torch in, nothing happen anymore, it just stuck there, press space or hold also not working, what's wrong?

 

Also i cant change the space button to others during that scene then i'm not sure if it's working or not

 

*edit: after i restart then it change from cage to chains bound but still stuck after the first chat with nocturnal...cant understand

 

See Troubleshooting #3. This is almost certainly a Zaz Animations not installed correctly problem. The troubleshooting item there will help you.

 

 

Thanks, it seems like i still have zaz without new patch, but my session seems like got problem with this site that makes me unable to download the patch file...others is normal...could u help me attach it here? :/  Thanks a lot..

[VirginMarie]

 

 

Hi, I just downloaded the mod and try it, but i got stuck right at the start....after nocturnal bound char on the cage and shove the torch in, nothing happen anymore, it just stuck there, press space or hold also not working, what's wrong?

 

Also i cant change the space button to others during that scene then i'm not sure if it's working or not

 

*edit: after i restart then it change from cage to chains bound but still stuck after the first chat with nocturnal...cant understand

 

See Troubleshooting #3. This is almost certainly a Zaz Animations not installed correctly problem. The troubleshooting item there will help you.

 

 

Thanks, it seems like i still have zaz without new patch, but my session seems like got problem with this site that makes me unable to download the patch file...others is normal...could u help me attach it here? :/  Thanks a lot..

 

 

Patch attached

ZaZAnimationPack_v0611_Patch.7z

[tj3n123]

Thanks a lot i will try and see if the problem gone!

 

*Edit: Tried and it seems to work fine, but the nipple stuff make my character become invisible, and got broken nif CTD, will try to see which causing this

[Nazzzgul666]

Since it seems to be an easy task: could you also exclude the etheral shout from conjuring Nocturnal? I use it to avoid traps and to jump from mountains, in both cases she isn't a big help. The first time i used it i was hanging over some fire traps and Nocturnal ran away to find some spiders which wouldn't come down from the ceiling until i went close... 

 

And: Goubo (Defeat author) has plans to rewrite defeat as an alternative framework for DA, if you have requests, concerns or something, it would be a good time to tell him.