Loverslabs just got some outside attention

[worksa7]

Haha his is a lot like how I felt the very first time I tried to get into this honestly. A nice guy helped me get started though, and after using a few backups and learning how some of the mechanics of them, I don't have any of these types of problems anymore.

 

It sounds like he just dumped a bunch of them together quickly, maybe without a full understanding of what to start with and where to take it.

[Guest]

 

5. Cracked is a website.

4. It consists of lists of things.

3. Even an article that has no business looking like a list of things, looks like a list of things.

2. People at Cracked obviously have a 'thing' for lists of things.

1. End of list. Oops, sorry, I just came. Now I feel a little empty inside.

 

 

0. Maybe the end can be bypassed

-1. Whoa! I just added another line

-2. I just hope you are not empty inside anymore but you can keep to host good feelings. 

-3. I am stopping this list (actually I prefer bullet points I I don't have to refer a specific point.)

[Guest]

that was tough to read.

In general really, its like that annoying noob that cant solve anything that bitches all the time wrote an article.

[DoctaSax]

-2. I just hope you are not empty inside anymore but you can keep to host good feelings. 

I try, but it's hard sometimes.

[worksa7]

The amount of effort you have to put into getting creatures set up as well; you can't just accidentally fuck a dog with skyrim mods and be surprised about it.

You KNOW what you are downloading, and it takes more set up imo than some other types of sexual mods.

 

Reminds me of those people that go to their proctologist like "I'm sorry I just fell on this dildo...ass first....with my pants down"

 

Heh x3

[hewhocumsbynight]

Damn, I really wanted to share this article, but I guess I got beaten to the punch.

 

For what it's worth, I really like Cracked.  They produce some really good articles, as well as some real crap.  It's just a pity that Mr. Hill didn't do a bit more work while "researching" his article.

[Myst42]

"I gazed too long into this abyss, and it ejaculated on my face."

Hahahah! :lol:

If my online character were more of a perv, that would totally be my new signature.

 

On his defense, he sounds like he came from outside and there are a few points I can understand like

-Being horrified by the freaky extremes sexual fantasies can reach, without culture of "tolerance" AKA "LL we dont give a fuck" attitude, sexual freakyness can be quite shocking for a newcomer.

-Eagerness to try sex mods often becomes inability to properly read readmes, which in turn leads to bad installments and lots and lots of frustration

-Frustration can also become envy when you see folk at LL not having issues with their sex mods, which translates to rage

-Sexual freakyness is certainly more notorious than sexual "normality" which can make a visitor overlook the fact that sexual normality is also an option. It's simply a matter of avoiding bestiality mods/settings and you can't possibly get dogs or bears. Either you TOTALLY KNOW what you download and install or you're a complete hypocrite/moron.

-Finally, there are things that will always bother some people, me included, like the lack of actual romance or dialogue immersion that transcends a simple "lets fuck" situation, but the guy is clearly not a modder, so he'll never understand the effort true realism can require. Although certain mods try to adress immersion they are still limited. But hey, that's not even LL's fault. Long before SexLab, Skyrim marriage system was a simple "make me a sammich" generic dialogue for every wife. Thanks to LL, I've seen improved marriage dialogue that includes sex and wives have become waifus.

 

Still is regreatable the fact that in the end, the guy chose to focus on the bad stuff embracing a biased view of what happens here without even seeing the good or bothering to ask for solutions. But maybe for some reason, LL having bad reputation could be good for the community.

When a place becomes popular, tides of crappy people tend to arrive. So if impopularity is the price to pay to keep this place free of them, so be it.

 

Personally I'm not into a lot of the stuff that happens here, but I learnt to live with it and revel on an unending celebration of imagination's freedom.

But those who weren't invited to the party will always gaze with envy and disapproval as their sef-repressed little minds fail to comprehend the true meaning of it and will only see the filth. There must always be a black sheep for society to look down on and feel good about themselves.

 

[hewhocumsbynight]

Well said, Elalquimista.

 

Speaking as somebody with roughly the same level of expertise as Mr. Hill, I can certainly sympathize the frustration and sense of wasting hours.  Similarly, as a man who loves stories, I have also frequently wished that dialogue could be more multi-dimensional.

 

On the other hand, Mr. Hill himself makes the point that he was paid to play with the toys on LL, which is more than I can say, so I'm not sure what the source of his complaint is.

[GrimReaper]

You shouldn't take this too seriously. Responding to jokes as if someone just punched you in your face is never a good reaction - everyone knows the trope of the hardcore nerd who will defend his favourite thing with a zeal that is at best irritating and at worst creepy. This article wasn't meant to be an in-depth dive into the adult modding community here on LL, it was about the author trying to be funny, he even did make a few jokes at his own expense.

 

What does it say about modern civilization that people have the free time to design dog-fucking mods, and then I get paid to write about them?

 

In the article, he tries to maintain the illusion that he is a normal guy and absolutely alienated by what happens here, yet at the end he asks himself: Why is my penis out?

 

 

TL;DR: Don't get overly defensive, guys. You'll look like a fool for everyone that is not part of the very same circle jerk you are relying on getting the validation you want.

 

[afa]

Article is fine, it is pretty much how I think an "normal outsider" would response to LL content.

This line in the beginning " because nothing says eroticism like the cold, sterile confines of an experimental science facility.

is probably more fitting than he thinks. It IS about sterile experiment and endless amount of testing and trial and error.

Just to get the "basics" up and running IS a ton of work for an "normal outsider"

If Skyrim were my first Bethesda game I doubt I would be able to get Sexlab to work. Only through messing around with mods through 4 previous titles and crashing many times do I have some basic understanding on how to set things up this time around.

I don't have full grasp of everything, heck I probably know less than half the things I want to know, but just keep on trying things and testing to see what works and what doesn't.

And after a while you don't care to ask why would anyone make X or do X, you just accept it and wonder if it works or how it works or how to get it to work.

[Dr. Thang]

Isn't cracked one of those buzzfeed tier shite-holes that are infested with clickbait articles with virtually no research into what they write about, only caring about views for dem green bills? Why are we even paying attention to it?

 

Well let's see...Cracked recently had an article written by a guy who read every issue of the official ISIS magazine (yeah, they have that, and it's more baffling than you can imagine), they've had countless articles about interesting historical events and people that I would have never heard of otherwise, and articles written with exclusive first hand accounts from prostitutes, refugees, genocide survivors, former neo-nazis, people who escaped scientology compounds, terrorist kidnappings, and other religious extremists, a girl who has a disease that makes her skin fall off, rape survivors in the military, an actual rapist, some zoophiliacs, a guy who broke out of prison, and a girl who was a sex slave as a child in the US, an article which I desperately wish I didn't read.

So, I'd say they're at least a few notches above buzzfeed.

[tonicwalter]

 

So, I'd say they're at least a few notches above buzzfeed.

 

 

Even if what you say is true, their gaming/tech section clearly isn't.

 

Loverslab reminds me a lot of the good old image board days.

This article is like a normalfag (pardon my french) who visits for a night, doesn't understand a thing and is unable to cope with the sheer amount of possibilities of spending one's time. Oh, and he apparently wasn't prepared of the shock value of a site dedicated to enable all kinds of kinks in a virtual environment.

 

Overall, the article is a lot more embarassing for the author than it is for this community.

[Dr. Thang]

 

Overall, the article is a lot more embarassing for the author than it is for this community.

 

Really? Because the only thing I find embarrassing here is this thread. Seeing this guy poke some mild fun at us and having so many respond by saying he's not funny at all and his site sucks and he just doesn't get us, it made me cringe a bit.

[tonicwalter]

He tries to portray this community as a pathetic cesspool of sexual deviancy, but all he manages to do (in my book) is make himself look incompetent at skyrim modding.

That's what I'd call embarassing.

 

I think it's great that you like that site - and I ask you to continue supporting them;

but that specific article is just not very good.

 

[Caffeine Addict]

 

Really? Because the only thing I find embarrassing here is this thread. Seeing this guy poke some mild fun at us and having so many respond by saying he's not funny at all and his site sucks and he just doesn't get us, it made me cringe a bit.

 

 

I don't like being made fun of and painted as a degenerate because I am not some prude puritan who thinks he upholds the morals of the free world.

But I guess, to each their own.

 

His article tried to be funny at the expense of this community. He laughed at us not with us. I do not consider him funny in any way and there might be some quality stuff on that site but his "article" definetly isn't one of them. 

[pinky6225]

 

 

Overall, the article is a lot more embarassing for the author than it is for this community.

 

Really? Because the only thing I find embarrassing here is this thread. Seeing this guy poke some mild fun at us and having so many respond by saying he's not funny at all and his site sucks and he just doesn't get us, it made me cringe a bit.

 

 

i never thought this day would come but i actually agree with Dr. Thang

 

Worlds probably gonna end tomorrow now

[swmas]

The dog part was funny, I lolled.

He tried to get sex mods to work in Skyrim in a single day and at someone else's request, he was bound to fail.

Also, his boss should get someone who is not a complete prude to write about sex mods.

[Rooker]

I can't make myself care a huge amount about the opinion of someone who reacts to the existence of mod management tools like it's some bizarro concept. If he doesn't know what Mod Organizer is, it's no wonder none of his mods worked right.

 

His prudish attitude about sex made him sound like an imbecile. The average gamer is somewhere around 30 - 40 years old. Gaming is an adult's hobby, so only an idiot would be surprised to find people making adult content for it.

 

I'm a pretty heavy user of game mods, here, at Nexus, at other sites. I make several mods myself, though none of them are anything special. I've been making and using mods for over 10 years. I have to say that some of the most complex, advanced mods I've ever seen I downloaded from here. You can install dozens of mods each for Sexlab, Sexout or LoversPK and they mostly work smoothly alongside each other in a way I wish happened with mods from Nexus.

[dwjlien]

To be fair, LL is  its own website rather than a nexus sub forum, because people have different interests. So LL is  a safe place for people with open and varied sexual tastes- beyond what is normal. Not normal as in acceptable, just divergent from the greater proportion of the populace. When broaching any novel idea or expectation breaking idiom, you have to do it in a gentle manner that the recipient is comfortable with not the community/thing you are talking about. Don't forget it's  also a gaming article, which is an immediate turn off for many readers in the 1st place, so it had to be extra accessible to keep them interested.

 

 

Cracked is for the average internet person, unaccustomed to LL type shenanigans, set to the background of a pretty prude (on the surface) society in general- again hence why LL is a website, not a sub forum on bethesda.net. So he play LL off as a slightly seedy, slightly weird place- because that's what his audience expects. If he went "THIS AWESOME DEN OF SEXUAL DEBAUCHERY AND FREEDOM IS FANTASTIC!!" - he'd have immediately lost them and negated the article completely. And by extension the readership would just go -"ugh he's one of those people".

 

However, the end result is that  thousands of 'normals' read an article that celebrates LL and its culture- even if it is through judgy eyes. Some people will discover they're not that weird, some will even come here, and that's a good thing. LL is portrayed as slightly off-base corner of the internet (which it kinda is) -but importantly NOT as some hellish pit of perversion to be feared. It's a pretty big step to be featured in a cultural magazine, treated with humour and a large degree of acceptance and willingness- sprinkled with enough saltyness to keep the average reader on side.

 

Ultimately it broaches the subject to a broader audience,  and we gain a little more trickle-affect-acceptance in the mainstream consciousness, that can only be a good thing in my eyes.

[Awkward Nymph]

I'm pretty new, but as I can tell, everyone has their own unique motivation when they come to this site.  Some just want some extra romance, others more extreme fetish or the ability to sex something new, I myself just wanted some xeno sorta interaction (dragons are sexy)   but yeah...Cracked is usually funny, but he didn't express the whole of the site-just parts of only some people's ideals. ^-^

[Dr. Thang]

 

 

 

Overall, the article is a lot more embarassing for the author than it is for this community.

 

Really? Because the only thing I find embarrassing here is this thread. Seeing this guy poke some mild fun at us and having so many respond by saying he's not funny at all and his site sucks and he just doesn't get us, it made me cringe a bit.

 

 

i never thought this day would come but i actually agree with Dr. Thang

 

Worlds probably gonna end tomorrow now

 

 

Hey, what did I ever do to you?

By the way, something that I think should be mentioned about the article is the comments. On almost every cracked article, I scroll down to the comments and hit "votes" and see the top voted ones, they're always pretty hilarious. In the case of this article, there is very very little judgment among the top voted comments, a couple are even by people who use these mods. I think this one is my personal favorite though:

 

"I could make dogs f**k me."

Superhero rejected power ideas, volume 21.

[Guest]

it actually put things in perspective.

[~magic~]

 

Isn't cracked one of those buzzfeed tier shite-holes that are infested with clickbait articles with virtually no research into what they write about, only caring about views for dem green bills? Why are we even paying attention to it?

 

Well let's see...Cracked recently had an article written by a guy who read every issue of the official ISIS magazine (yeah, they have that, and it's more baffling than you can imagine), they've had countless articles about interesting historical events and people that I would have never heard of otherwise, and articles written with exclusive first hand accounts from prostitutes, refugees, genocide survivors, former neo-nazis, people who escaped scientology compounds, terrorist kidnappings, and other religious extremists, a girl who has a disease that makes her skin fall off, rape survivors in the military, an actual rapist, some zoophiliacs, a guy who broke out of prison, and a girl who was a sex slave as a child in the US, an article which I desperately wish I didn't read.

So, I'd say they're at least a few notches above buzzfeed.

 

 

Agreed completely.

I feel like many of the people on this page got offended and didn't even read the whole article.

 

I found the article breathtakingly hilarious.

 

As for the claims of "They didn't really experience loverslab and criticized it!", you're completely right! The cracked.com article does, in fact, heavily criticize LoversLab.

The problem is...

 

1 - "They've dedicated a massive chunk of their limited free time on this Earth to eroticizing a game about shouting at fantasy Norwegians"

2 - "I soon learned that adding sex to Skyrim is like adding missile launchers to your car. It's technically feasible, but the framework wasn't built to handle it and will buckle under such a precarious weight. "

3 - "Furthermore, mods can often conflict. You need to install A for B to work, but A doesn't work alongside C, but you can't lose C if you want D."

4 - " I understand why someone would want to add sex to Skyrim. You can have PG-13 sex in games like Fable and Dragon Age, because you're roleplaying as a powerful, attractive adult -- why wouldn't romance be an option? But here it's enacted by unaware participants as part of a fantasy of endless sexual conquest so clinical and detached you feel like a scientist observing a foreign species, complete with statistical tracking."

 

...that the criticism is completely valid.

 

The writer quite clearly sympathizes with the desire, but criticizes the execution. It requires a huge amount of specific knowledge to get detached sex scenes, and requires roleplaying experience and creativity for those sex scenes not to feel detached. It requires a lot of learning for a new modder to even begin to figure it out, and the end result is often terrifying rather than sensual. 

 

As a female, the three biggest reasons I ever got myself to get past those obstacles were isolation, a vivid imagination, and pre-existing technical knowledge.

[~magic~]

Frankly, now that we have reached a wider audience, people are going to click on the site, visit these forums.

Thanks to many of the people on this page, what they are going to find is a bunch of people angry about the criticism, equating Cracked to Buzzfeed. 

That's quite counter-productive to anyone who is worried about people misjudging loverslab. 

[gregathit]

Who really cares.  Seriously.  About the author, about the article, about how different folks feel about it or about what visitors may think of folks dumping on it.  Everyone has an opinion, and NONE of those opinions are any more valid than the others.  

 

As far as the article writers are concerned, they don't give a shit if people love the article or hate the article........AS LONG AS folks are TALKING about the article, it is a win, win to them.